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??? My ggggrandparents were born in Lofthouse Yorkshire. However there appear to be 2 places in West Yorkshire called Lofthouse, one in Nidderdale and the other near Castleford, Wakefield. Is this correct and where would the parish records be held? Any help would be appreciated.
Val
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It's likley to the the Lofthose closest to where they resided in later life.
You don't give names, dates or places of (later) residence, so it's your call.
Pauline
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Hi Pauline,
My ggggrandparents were John Rodgers and Hannah Forth. They married at Easington by Guisborough North Yorkshire and lived their lives in Lythe NY. I originally thought they were born in Loftus, but there is no record of either of their births there. I suppose the Lofthouse in Nidderdale is probably the closest one to Lythe, but I am not familiar with West Yorkshire.
Val
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Hi, hope you don't mind if I butt in :)
What year are you looking for, for the births??? Seems odd that they lived in NRY all their lives and married here :-\
Jane
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Does sound most likely to me that they should be in Loftus (earlier called Lofthouse) North Yorks - post their details and we'll have a go!
Barbara :)
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I am looking for the births of John Rodgers(Rogers) and Hannah Forth. Both were born Lofthouse Yorkshire, he abt 1786 and she about 1784. They married at Easington near Guisborough 1816 and then moved to Lythe NY where I found the births of their children. Went through the batch numbers on the IGI for Loftus but came up with nothing, so then thought perhaps I was wrong and they actually came from West Yorkshire. Any help appreciated.
Val
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I have an ancestor who stated his place of birth as Lofthouse on one census and then the following census said Lofthouse Cleveland, so I too presumed it would be Loftus which is indeed in Cleveland.
I found his birth on the IGI in nearby Easington which is sometimes shown as Yorkshire and sometimes as Durham. Maybe worth another look on IGI.
Joanne
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I found his birth on the IGI in nearby Easington which is sometimes shown as Yorkshire and sometimes as Durham.
Hi Joanne,
They are two different places, Easington in Durham near Shotton, and one near Guisborough North Yorks
Barbara :)
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Yes, Sorry I didn't explain that very well. I was trying to say how confusing it can be when there are more than one of the same name especially as Cleveland use to span both Yorkshire and Durham.
Easington in Cleveland North Yorkshire although only appearing as a small Village is apparently a wide Parish which includes Loftus ( original name Lofthouse ) and is only 8 miles from Lythe. So all areas mentioned by "Origins" are in very close proximity and the family haven't moved very far at all. its only like walking the length of Blackpool promenade.
I did find a John Rodgers birth on the IGI " August 1785 Lythe"
Joanne
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Hello Joanne and Barbara,
Thanks for taking an interest in this. I have a lot of searching around to do. Since starting my family tree, I have found there are 2 John and Hannah Rodgers in this area, both born around the same time. My John and Hannah say they were born in Lofthouse while the other John and Hannah were born Whitby and Lythe respectively. The second John and Hannah lived in Whitby, while my John and Hannah lived in Lythe. I found the birth of John Rodgers in Lythe 6th August 1785, christened August 1785. Thought this may have been him. Unfortunately I went through the Whitby records and found John Rodgers born 6th August 1785 but christened in September 1785. Now I don't know if this is a duplication of the records. Still did not find anything for Hannah Rodgers (Forth). Have a theory that they were born in Loftus, but christened in another parish because Genuki says that St.Leonards C/E was not there until 1820. Just don't know and will keep trying.
Many thanks
Val
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Hello Origins,
Noticed these places have a common thread. May be a clue for you. All in mining areas. North Riding of Yorkshire coast had iron mining and, alum making from coastal rock shale.
Iron mines also inland. Coal mining in Co.Durham, and south Yorkshire ie
Lofthouse nr.Wakefield. Lofthouse in Nidderdale had lead-mines not so far away. Gragareth.
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I had a look on my disc and sorry I cannot see them :( I will keep looking, I tell you these families must love causing confusion.
Jane
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They certainly have confused me. I made a mistake earlier when I said St.Leonards church at loftus was C/E, it was methodist. Does anybody know if the parish church for Loftus was at Easington near Guisborough? Thanks for looking Jane.
Val
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Hi - me again
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Loftus/index.html
Have a look here see what you think
Jane
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Where are these people buried?? I could go and have a look through the graveyard at Loftus or surrounding area if you think they may be there, if its Lythe, might have to wait for next weekend, are you local to the area?
Jane ;D
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Hi Jane,
John Rodgers is buried in Lythe and I assume Hannah is as well. On the grave inscriptions on Genuki there is John Rodgers 41 years in the employ of the Mulgrave family. I am sure this is my John.
I am not in the local area, unfortunately, I am in Australia, but was born in Guisborough. I made a short trip, way too short, over to england back in July and stayed with a cousin in Whitby. We did visit the church at Lythe, but it was raining and we could not find the grave unfortunately. If you are able to go over to Lythe and have a further look and maybe find something it would be fantastic. Much appreciated.
Val
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Right Ok I have seen that inscription for John on the same site as you. I am happy to go to Lythe but it will be next Saturday, I wonder if anyone else wants to join me ?? If you pm me your email address, that way I will be able to send any pictures I get. Will there be any in Loftus or all at Lythe do you think?? I could do Loftus tomorrow afternoon, after football, shame as they played at Loftus a couple of weeks ago ;D
Anyone fancy a trip to Lythe??
Jane
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I made a mistake earlier when I said St.Leonards church at loftus was C/E, it was methodist. Does anybody know if the parish church for Loftus was at Easington near Guisborough?
There was a Methodist chapel, but the parish church for Loftus was St. Leonards
Easington parish church was All Saints
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Easington/
Barbara
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Can't see any Rogers buried St. Leonards Loftus, but there are 4 at St. Michaels, Liverton, near Loftus, don't know if they would be related...
Joseph b. c1794 wife Jane b. c1814
Thomas John b. c1862 wife Annie b. c1865
Barbara
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Hi Barbara,
Yes I found the Rogers at Liverton, but I have no way of knowing if they are my family. Need to find my John and Hannah which may give me at least a father's name.
Thanks.
Val
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Ok Saturday next week it is for Lythe and Loftus ;D Ecneps is joining me, hope Madpants may be able to also :)
Did John and Hannah have children named Thomas bapt 7 June 1820 Lythe
John bapt 31 oct 1824 ???
And looking at name Rogers
JOHN ROGERS son of William and Elizabeth Rogers of East Row lab, born 6 August 1785 and bapt 7 August 1785 in Lythe
Jane
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Just to add, if anybody else has any rellies in the graveyard at Lythe, I have posted a new topic, we will try and find them for you, let us know
Jane
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Hi Jane,
What have I started. Wish I could come too.
John and Hannah's children were -
Margaret -born Easington 1817.
Thomas - christened Lythe 7.6.1820
William - christened Lythe 22.7.1822.
John - Christened Lythe 31.10.1824.
Mary - christened Lythe 10.4.1827.
In relation to the William and Elizabeth Rogers of East Row, I think these are the parents of the other John Rogers.
Did you receive my earlier message with my email address on it?
Many thanks, happy hunting.
Val
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Ok Saturday next week it is for Lythe and Loftus ;D Ecneps is joining me, hope Madpants may be able to also :)
Jane
I certainly will ;D Do I need my passport? ;)
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passport - doubt it, flask yes!
Val we like an excuse for a day out don't you worry ;D
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Does anyone know about the general local history of East Row in the 1700s? My folks were there for that whole century (surnames Linton, Stonehouse, Graham). Would love to have an idea what life was like.