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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: artygirl on Saturday 13 October 07 11:24 BST (UK)
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Hi there,
As far as I know my great grandfather had a wife who died and later re-married. I know he was born approx 1874 and his second wife was called Alice Mooney.
I think his first child might have been from the first wife, she was called Jane Magee (Also known as Jinnie). He then went on to have more children, Robert Magee, Elizabeth Magee, Alice Magee and Annie Magee. I think only one child was from the 1st wife but not too sure. He also lived in Scotland for a few years around 1911 but moved back to belfast in time for the census. They lived on leeson street. I've located James & Alice on that census.
Can anyone help me shed any light on who the first lady was? I'd love to know.
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Hi.
James Magee married Alice Mooney, on the 26 June 1896, in the Roman Catholic Church in Belfast Urban No 9 district.
No 9 is Lisburn Road area, so the R.C., church may have been the Derryvolgie Ave., R.C., church.
Regards,
Dixie
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Hi.
Could this be the first wife ?. Marriage was in the same district, so it may have taken place in the same church.
James Magee married Isabella Moore, on the 2 November 1889.
I'm not sure, but I think Derryvolgie would have been the local R.C., church. Some other Rootschatter may be able to confirm or put you on to another church in the area.
Dixie
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Gosh, where did you find this? I always would have thought it would have been St. Peter's church as James lived around the Falls road area for his married life with Alice (apart from their short stay in Scotland)
Does it name any witnesses etc?
This is very interesting indeed, thank you for your help!
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Hi.
Got what I did from Emerald Ancestors site. For a fee they supply all the details.
Checked an old pocket street directory I have, and Derryvolgie Ave., is in No 9, so more than likely their church.
Regards,
Dixie
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Hi again.
On the site below I entered "Alice Magee" for a 1901 census search and found one at 2 Disraeli St., in the Shankill area. She is a boarder with two "Mooney's".
www.belfastfamilyhistory.com
May be a family connection.
Dixie
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I'd been using that belfastfamily history site and hadn't done that search before- it looks very much like my Alice! Thank you ever so much. You've made my day! I'll investigate further into your other ideas- fascinating.
The Mooney's she's boarding with are probably aunts and in 1901 her husband could have been living in Scotland or else trying to get them a home in Belfast... Can't thank you enough!
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Latest update... :o
1 John McGHEE
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Spouse: Ann SWEENEY
Children: Archibald (1811-1877)
1.1 Archibald McGHEE
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Birth: 1811, County Antrim, Ireland
Death: 28 4 1877, 9 Back Row, Rosehall, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire.1
Occ: Labourer
1851 Census recs.
Census Place: Aitkens Land, New Monkland, Lanarkshire
Archibald McGEE, head, marr., 40, Labourer, Ireland
Bridget Mooney McGEE, wife, marr., 40, Ireland
Sarah McGEE, daur., unm., 20, Carding room worker, Ireland
Mary Jane McGEE, daur., unm., 19, steam loom weaver, Ireland
Catherine McGEE, daur., 15, Steam loom weaver, Ireland
1861 Census recs.
Dwelling: 11 Baird Street.
Census Place: New Monkland, LKS
Archibald McGHEE, head, marr., 45, Cotton factory sorter, Antrim, Ireland
Bridget Mooney McGHEE, wife, marr., 50, Antrim, Ireland
Sally McGHEE, daur., unm., 37, Cotton factory worker, LKS, Airdrie.
Archibald PARKER, gson, 9, LKS, Airdrie
1871 Census recs.
Dwelling: 2 Mill Row Court
Census Place: New Monkland, LKS
Archibald McGHEE, head, marr., 58, Fireman, factory, Antrim, Ireland
Bridget Mooney McGHEE, wife, marr., 57, Antrim, Ireland.
Archibald McGHEE, grandson, unm., 19, Fireman, unemployed, LKS, New Monkland.
1887 death cert. recs. age at time of death as 57.
Spouse: Bridget MOONEY
Birth: 1811, County Antrim, Ireland
Death: 12 4 1878, 9 Rosehall, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire.2
Father: James MOONEY
Mother: Bridget ROONEY
1851 Census: Aitkens Land, New Monkland, Lanarkshire, Bridget Mooney McGEE, wife, marr., 40, Ireland
1861 Census: 11 Baird Street, New Monkland, LKS, Bridget Mooney McGHEE, wife, marr., 50, Antrim, Ireland
1871 Census: 2 Mill Row Court, Census Place: New Monkland, LKS, Bridget Mooney McGHEE, wife, marr., 57, Antrim, Ireland.
Children: Sarah (1831-)
Mary Jane (1832-)
Catherine (1837-1894)
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I don't recognise the name, however it's interesting that there are Magee's in Lanarkshire- due to the fact that Alice and James lived in Lanarkshire for roughly 4-5 years... i'm intruiged. Thank you for this! I'll keep studying it to see if i can come up with any links
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I also noticed that, like Archibald McGHEE, James McGHEE also married a MOONEY :o
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How very strange indeed! It's just sinking in how strong a parallel that is, there must be a connection of some sort... both co.antrim, both went to lanarkshire and both magee with alternate spellings. Where did you find this by the way?
Thank you again and again!
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I was doing some background research into Archie's daughter Catherine and it just spread from there. Pretty soon I had Irish relations popping up everywhere. The FRISKEYs, McGHEEs and my main line the McILVANEYs, from Rasharkin, seem to have migrated to Scotland en masse and ended up cheek by jowl in Airdrie, Lanarkshire. The information was posted on Rootschat Lanarkshire board and I verified it through Scotlands People. ;D
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gosh haha I'm amazed by how quickly rootschatters can find things. Thank you. it could be a connection way back.. I shall update you if I find out more! xo
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I have just been emailed Archibald McGHEE's 1877 death certificate. It records his parents as John MCGEE & Ann SWEENEY. That would take you back to about the 1790's. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Hi artygirl.
I think I may have misinformed you about the district numbers. I think the numbers in this directory, 1960 / 70's, don't relate to the era you are researching. If Christopher reads this he may be able to give you better information about the districts than I have. Sorry if I put you on the wrong course with regard to the areas.
Dixie
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Don't worry about it! I still realy appreciate you trying :) xo
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Found this birth, but don't know if it relates to your lot. The age is near enough, going by the age of the Alice Magee in the 1901 census on Belfast Family History website.
Alice Mooney, born 28 July 1873, Knocknadona, Lisburn.
Parents, Robert Mooney and Alice Jane Bradley.
Couldn't find a marriage date for the parents.
Hope it works in with your research to make up for my boob with the district numbers.
Regards,
Dixie
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Thanks, that could be a relation! I'll have to check it out further. Thanks for all your help! ;D
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Using the UHF site, James Magee m Alice Mooney 1896, and I believe his parents were Felix Magee and Mary Gribben, but you'd need to double check this. I found no other record on this site of a James Magee with father Felix having married previously, but he may have been married in Scotland. Interestingly, the 1911 census shows him to have been married for 15 years and the child Jane, suspected to have been from a previous marriage, is aged 14.
Best of luck!
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I'm sorry for lack of reply- didn't meant to be rude. It has been a long time since I have looked at family history information. I've had a few bits of contact via roots hat recently and I'm thinking of digging out all my research this weekend. If I manage to make progress I will let you know. It seems like too much of a coincidence to have som any Magee/mooney connections appearing for them not to be related. Thank you again
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Jinnie (Jane) b 1897,baptd St Paul's, address Spinner St
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Brighton st 1901
Clowney St 1911
Possibly?