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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: lanarkshire lassie on Tuesday 16 October 07 18:52 BST (UK)
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I am keen to find my great great grandmother, Mary Pender, in the 1871 census.
I have Mary in the 1861 census with her parents and siblings, living Old Monkland, Castle. Her father, John, was a boatman.
Where do I find Mary in 1871?
Gail
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What age do you expect her to be in 1871? Where was she born? Was she of age to have married between 1861 and 1871? If so, what was her married surname?
ADP
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Hi Gail and ADP,
Found Mary in 1861 with her family. She was born 1856 in Old Monkland, so she should be about 15 in 1871. I've got the family in 1871 too, but no Mary. Perhaps living with grandparents and possibly listed under their surname by mistake?
hume24
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There's a 15 year old Mary Pender in Cadder (very close to Old Monkland). Or as Ancestry has her - Mary Ponder, born Old Monkland.
ADP
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Looks like her, ADP. Well done. :)
Residence: Cawder Mill, Cadder
(Grant family)
Mary Ponder, f, servant, 15, general servant (domestic), Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
hume24
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Hi,
What was gggrams married name and I will see if I can
find her in the other census....Crookedtail
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Hi Crookedtail.
Nice to chat to a another newbie.Hope you enjoy our site.
Thanks for joining in the hunt. Mary married WILLIAM COVENTRY on 3rd March 1876, at West Maryston.
Greatful for any suggestions, although the Mary Ponder mis-spelling mentioned earlier, seems to be the closest.
Thanks again.
Gail :)
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Hi,
Heres your family i believe in the 1881 Census....
Now remember due to time census was taken and they
rounded off the ages that the first child is now 5 years old....
but i think this is them for sure....
William Coventry
age..27 born about..1854
Born in Glasgow
Blacksmith
Living at .. Chapel Lane Burrells Court
Port Glasgow,Renfrewshire
Wife....Mary Coventry
Age 25 born about ..1856
Born in Old Monkland
Children:
1. Margaret...
age 5 Born abt.1876
Place: Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire
2. William...
Age 3.Born abt. 1878
Place: Kilmalcolm,Renfrewshire
3. Maria
Age 6 months, Born abt 1880
Port Glasgow,Renfrewshire
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Hi,
Checked other Census's and can't see them in scotland... ???
could they have gone other places like,USA?
Crookedtail
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Thanks again Crookedtail.
This is my family. 1891 census finds the family moved to Coatbridge.Son William was my gt grandfather.
Coatbridge is where the family settled.
Gail
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Hi again,
I think this is Maggie still single....same birth place but
age is off...you cant always depend on that tho....
Maggie age 24..Born Post Glasgow.....
Servant
Living at.. 1 Ford Road..Govan,Lanarkshire
Dom. Cook
Talk later...If there anything else I can help you with
just ask I may be can or if not i will try...Crookedtail
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Hi,
could this be your greatgrandfather and mother....
William ...Age 22
Born Abt. 1879
Place: Port Glasgow,Refrewshire
Wife:
Jane
Age: 20...Born abt.1881 at Airdrie,Lanarkshire...
William is a Blacksmith ( like his father was.)...
Living at ...40C Aitchison St.
New Monkland
Crookedtail
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Hello again, Crookedtail.
As I said in my earlier pm, William and Jane were my gt grandparents. Regarding Margaret, or Maggie, as you have found her, I am assuming this was the 1901 census. I note that it states living in Govan. This could well be the case.
I have Margaret giving birth to a son, William, whilst living in Coatbridge, in 1903. In 1904, Margaret and William's father, John Smith, marry at Plantation Street ,Govan. Margaret's age is given as 26.
Sadly, she died in 1909.
Gail
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Gail,
Happy tohelp you...sad about your Margaret but that is
the one of the sad things we find doing our research...
At least we got another part of her life added in....I was
pretty sure it was her also....
Well tell me another story and see if I can help you again..
I am retired so have the time and do love my geneology
Have been doing it for almost 25 years now....Crookedtail
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Hello again Crookedtail.
Another challenge, and believe it or not, relating to another gt gt grandmother, this time on my mother's side.
My great grandfather, JAMES MORRISON, was born in Edinburgh, Jan 1866.
His parents are named as William and Ann Morrison. On James birth certificate, his parent's date and place of marriage is given as April 26th 1865, Dundee.
I cannot find their marriage anywhere.
When Ann died,(cannot put my hand on her death certificate c 1878)she is listed being married to William. When William subsequently marries Elizabeth Aitken, c 1888, he is listed as being a widower at time of marriage.
If William and Ann had not infact, been married, would they be referred to as such at death and remarriage?
Hope that you can shed some light on things for me.
Many thanks again
Gail :)
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Gail,
Here is a Mary Pender I found it could be your grams
Mary Pender
Born: March 16,1856
Place: Old Monkland
Daughter of...
John Pender
Margaret McAllister
Since she had a daughter first born named Margaret it was
a scottish pattern to name first girl after Maternal grandmother.
What do you think.....Crookedtail
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That is my Mary.
Father John, Canalboatman.
Mother Margaret, ms McAllister.
Gail
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Gail,
Boy is the Morrison Family a mistery.....I can't find them on
the Census or IGI or anywhere even a hint.....
Do you have more info...maybe that will help....
I will keep checking tonight or in the morning to see...
maybe my eyeballs are just not seeing ;D ;D ;D :D
Crookedtail
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Hello Crookedtail.
I have had a wee quick look on SP and found the following.
1871 census has William. Ann and James (my gt grandfather)Morrison, registered at Uphall, Linlithgow.
!881 Has William and Family residing at Bo'ness, Linlithgow.
By now, Ann has passed away.
Gail
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Hi,
Good news....do you have the 1871 1881 census now
so you know who was on it...i could take a look if you
haven't.....crookedtail
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Perhaps I can help, folks, or perhaps we can help each other? I think Margaret McAllister who married John Pender is the sister of my great great grandfather Alexander McAllister. The parents were Angus McAllister and Isabella Young. I can't find much about them but I know lots about Alexander and have researched Margaret too. I would be happy to share any details I have. Lanarkshire Lass, I'm a Lanarkshire Lad born and bred. Roots are Monklands, Holytown, Motherwell and Bellshill.
Best regards,
Tom.