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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: lambeth on Wednesday 17 October 07 08:16 BST (UK)
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Moses Nice married Elizabeth Lee in 1760 in Cambridge. I have found Elizabeth's baptism in Cambridge parish registers in 1736. No Moses Nice baptised in Cambridge but through IGI found a Moses Nice baptised in Bury St Edmunds in 1730. Elizabeth was buried in Cambridge in 1809 but have not found Moses. Anybody connected with either Nice or Lee families?
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Moses Nice b.c1735 Cambridge
married 15/june/1760 Cambridge to Elizabeth Lee.
This is on the IGI.
diddy.
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Whilst "Moses Nice b c1735 Cambridge"may be on the IGI it's meaningless. All of the IGI entries relating to this marriage are member submissions and should therefore be regarded with suspicion. Any entry "born c 1735" simply means that the submitter hadn't got a clue when and where he was born, and merely deducted 25 from the date of the marriage to arrive at a supposed birth date (it being a well known fact that ALL males marry at 25). Particularly suspicious is the fact that all of the entries bar one simply give "Cambridge" without referring to which of the various Cambridge parishes the marriage is alleged to have taken place in.
The marriage actually took place in Cambridge St Benedicts on 15 June 1760. Moses Nice of Cambridge Little St Marys and Elizabeth Lee of Cambridge St Benedicts, by licence (Phillimore's Marriage Index)
With such an uncommon name as Moses Nice there must be every chance that the 1730 baptism is the right one. Proving it is another matter entirely!
David
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Thanks David for warnings of taking IGI as true.
I have found in parish registers that a Moses Nice was baptised in 1730 at Bury St Edmunds and parents were Moses and Mary. The earlier baptisms were difficult to read so have not found any siblings to see if Moses the younger named his children after them. That's as far back as I can go.
Victoria
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Can't add much to what David has told you apart from they were bac and sp and the witnesses were Richd Dunthorne and William Kidd.
Selina
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Thank you Selina for the witness information.
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Lambeth, I am connected to the Nice family although I donīt have Moses on my tree but at the moment I am not researching that branch of the family. However, the Nices I have on my tree come from the Bury St Edmunds area.....so itīs probable that there may be a connection. If I find more, I will post.
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Thank you Riojatinto for your message. I have been to Suffolk Record Office and in my notes I have found other children born to Moses and Mary in Bury St Edmunds.
Baptisms: John 1728, Mary 1734, Samuel 1738
Burials: William 1724 and Richard 1741
There are NICE families also in Barton, great Waldingfield, Kirkley and Palgrove - a common surname in that part of England.
Look forward to hearing from you when you are researching your Nice family.
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Realise this is an old thread and some participants haven't been on here for a while but let's see.
I have Moses Nice being buried in King's Lynn in Feb 1813 aged 85 giving estimated year of birth of 1727 or 28. Described as late of Cambridge, former butler at St John's College.
Right, now for the ulterior motive to this post
I'm trying to connect the Dunthornes and the Lee family.
Richard Dunthorne (1711-75), witness to Moses' marriage, was an astronomer. He has a wikipedia entry and his own crater on the Moon.
He married Elizabeth Mansfield (1714-89) in 1742 at Cambridge St Clements or Pembroke Hall according to the licence. Bondsman was William Lee, Bricklayer
In Elizabeth Dunthorne's will (PCC 1789), Elizabeth Nice (nee Lee), Moses' wife, was described as a niece, as was Frances Leach (nee Lee), wife of Barnett. Moses Nice and Barnett Leach were the executors.
Elizabeth and Frances were daughters of William Lee and Frances Shaw (widow, nee ???). William & Frances married at Cambridge St Benedict's in 1735. I've only seen the BT version which had no witness info.
Now, Elizabeth Mansfield had a sister Frances b1709. What would fit in nicely would be a marriage of Frances Mansfield to a Mr Shaw who then dies in the right time-frame.
Unfortunately, I haven't found one. Anyone else?