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hi all
just found this site ;D
am doing family tree????? going ok on my dads mums side but cant find anything on my dads dad side!! His dad was called albert wharton, died somewhere in sisties?? from cleethorpes lincolnshire, was married to a daisy woolnough of suffolk (mutford) know there is not alot of family on this side but we all got parents ??? so if any one is tracing whrton tree and my sparse info clicks would be grateful for any info
piper :) :) :)
ps: great site!!
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Hi Piper
Welcome to Rootschat! (http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/sign0016.gif) (http://www.smilieshq.com)
I am researching Whartons but they originated from Barnard Castle in County Durham. If you trace yours back to that area let me know!
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Hi Piper,
Welcome to RootsChat
I, as far as I know have no connection to your tree, but would love to help you get started on this line.
Do you have any more information?
Do you have Albert Wharton /Daisy Woolnough's marriage cert?
How old was Albert when he died -or Daisy?
Was Albert b. Cleethorpes?
What year was their eldest child born?
Dis Albert/Daisy have a middle name?
Sorry for all the questions, but any snippet of info will help with the search.
Suz
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hi roobarb
thanks for replying will let you know if that area come up
piper :) :)
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hi suzard
thanks for replying, ok marriage cert? no but may be able to get
not sure when albert born, around early 1900's he was alvive in 1965 so may have died late 60's early seventies
Daisy was born 1909 (mutford) suffolk, died dec 1989 cleethorpes?grimsby
Albert born grimsby?
albert william, Daisy was Daisy Elizabeth
eldest child peter wharton born 12 sep 1934
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Just found Daisy Elizabeth's birth
Dec qtr 1909
Mutford district
4a 1079
Mutford reg district covers part of Suffolk/part of Norfolk
It's important to remember birth, marriage, deaths records give the disrict in which they were registered-which is not necessarily the actual town/village where they were born -but a town/village which comes under a certain registration district.
This looks like Daisy's death reg
Daisy Elizabeth Wharton
born 22 Oct 1909
died 1989
age 80
Grimsby district
Volume 7 page 549
If you get their marriage certificate it should give the name and occupations of their fathers-also the names of witnesses are helpful, as sometimes they are family members.
Birth certificates give parents names and mothers maiden name
Once you have those we can begin to trace back through the census
Suz
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There is this birth
Albert W Wharton
Sept qtr 1911
Mother's maiden name:Sanderson
Grimsby district
7a 1148
is this a possibility???
Suz
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hi suz
thanks for that, as i said going ok on Daisy's side, she nee woolnough her mum was agnes woolnough nee harber her dad Alfred woolnough can trace harbers back to 1712??????? just cant find the wharton side ??? ??? ???
piper :) :)
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hi
I will look into that thanks, it is hard as only living relative is peter, and he cant remember much!! his cousin john may know alittle more i think albert had brothers and sisters but they were only half b/s so may have different surnames will have to find some certificates
piper :) :)
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I have found the following -of course it is only speculation, marriage cert will give Albert's father.
If the birth reg found for Albert is the correct one - mother's maiden name Sanderson - then this is a possible marriage for his parents
marriage
Albert William Wharton
Gertrude Sanderson
Sept qtr 1908
Bradford
Yorks
9b 61
I know this marriage is in Yorks, but there is a grimsby connection
this could be Albert (father of your Albert William)
1891
19 Poynter St
Holy Trinity
Yorks
Robert R Wharton Head M 29 Watchmaker b. Grimsby Lincs
Hanna E wife 30 b. Poplar London
Albert son 5 b. Grimsby Lincs
Lillian daughter 4 b. Grimsby Lincs
Edith daughter 1 b. Grimsby Lincs
RG12 3943 127 23
1901
Mary Vale Road
Kings Norton
Worcestershire
Robert R Wharton head M 39 Watchmaker and repairer b. Grimsby Lincs
Hannah wife 39 b. London
Albert V son 16 Watchmakers Assistant b. grimsby Lincs
Lillian daughter 14 b. Grimsby lincs
Edith daughter 11 b. Grimsby lincs
RG13 2805 117 26
Will leave it for now - please post details of any certificates you can get hold of -and names of half siblings (please do not post details of any living person) and we can take it from there
Just been checking births and the Albert in the census may be Albert Victor Wharton -he is Albert W in 1891, Albert V in 1901
Only Lincs birth I can find about that time is Albert Victor!
looking forward to further information
Suz
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hi suz
well been asking about not got much info but found out albert died 1971
found death record
albert william
b 6 july (which tallies with your sep qtr) 1911
died jul/aug/sep qtr cleethorpes 1971
3b 398???
so may have found when born/died but nothing else!!!
did find out he had at least two hallf brothers sid and bob flynn??? who i think were in army
will keep searching
piper :) :) :)
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ps;;
could be variations of flynn spelling?? :) :)
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When you get going, I have quite a few Lincolnshire Whartons in my database which you can reach via http://www.linclinks.co.uk
Regards
Jacky
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Are you looking for "Wharton" in Grimsby Lincoln UK ??? I got a family tree going all the wat back to John Wharton (B) 1711 with Wharton all coming from in the Grimsby area...I come from Edwin Farr Wharton (B) 1885 Grimsby, that left the UK for Australia...
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I think the parents were Albert William Wharton b 1886 Hull. Married Sept 1908 in Bradford (9b/61) to Gertrude Sanderson.
Marriage Bradford,21 Aug 1908 Albert William aged 22 fisherman abode Hope Street Grimsby father Henry a wood turner deceased. Gertrude 26 years spinster abode Bradford father Richard a blacksmith.
Other children, Sept 1909 Wharton-- Ethel Lavinia-- Grimsby 7a 579 MMS Sanderson
Albert W in 1911
June 1914 WHARTON Betsy J MMS Sandersoon Grimsby 7a 1219
Marriage Dec 1917(7a/1381)Gertrude Wharton to Robert J Flynn
There were births for the names you mention including a daughter, but as these people may still be with us I am not giving their names here.
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Class: RG12; Piece: 3931; Folio: 33; Page: 26 1891 census, Louisa's Terrace Sculcoates
Jane Wharton 44 widow living on own means.
Thomas Wharton 21
Charles Wharton 10
James Wharton 13
Anne Wharton 8
Albert Wm Wharton 4
The children all born in Hull.
WHARTON, ALBERT WILLIAM MMS--MCMULLEN
Jun 1886 HULL Volume 09D Page 308
WHARTON, THOMAS HENRY MMS--MCMULLINS
1870 HULL Volume 09D Page 207
WHARTON, JAMES MMS-- MULLINS
1878 in HULL Volume 09D Page 280
Marriages Jun 1863
MCMULLAN Jane Sculcoates 9d 241
Wharton Henry Sculcoates 9d 241
Deaths Mar 1891
Wharton Henry age 44 Hull 9d 164
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I think the parents were Albert William Wharton b 1886 Hull. Married Sept 1908 in Bradford (9b/61) to Gertrude Sanderson.
Marriage Bradford,21 Aug 1908 Albert William aged 22 fisherman abode Hope Street Grimsby father Henry a wood turner deceased. Gertrude 26 years spinster abode Bradford father Richard a blacksmith.
some details (from image- written very clearly) of the above marriage
Bradford St Peter Yorks
Aug 1908
Albert William Wharton 22 B 157 Hope St Grimsby father Henry W occ Woodturner
Gertrude Sanderson 21 S 106 Hollings Rd father Richard S occ Blacksmith
father's middle initials may help -and Gertrude's age reads 21
Suz
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mmmm I didn't put the details Suzard as I thought I would get my legs slapped, :P sent a private message to the OP.
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ALBERT William WHARTON Baptised 20 Jun 1911 St Paul, Grimsby
(Birth 6 Jun 1910)
Parents ALBERT VICTOR and GERTRUDE
Fathers Occp Fisherman
Abode 11 Armstrong St
(FreeREG)