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Title: wharton family
Post by: piper4 on Thursday 18 October 07 20:59 BST (UK)
hi all

just found this site  ;D

am doing family tree?????   going ok on my dads mums side but cant find anything on my dads dad side!!    His dad was called albert wharton, died somewhere in sisties??  from cleethorpes lincolnshire, was married to  a daisy woolnough of suffolk (mutford) know there is not alot of family on this side but we all got parents ???   so if any one is tracing whrton tree and my sparse info clicks would be grateful for any info

piper  :) :) :)

ps: great site!!
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: Roobarb on Thursday 18 October 07 21:13 BST (UK)
Hi Piper
Welcome to Rootschat!  (http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/sign0016.gif) (http://www.smilieshq.com)
I am researching Whartons but they originated from Barnard Castle in County Durham. If you trace yours back to that area let me know! 
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: suzard on Thursday 18 October 07 21:16 BST (UK)
Hi Piper,
Welcome to RootsChat

I, as far as I know have no connection to your tree, but would love to help you get started on this line.

Do you have any more information?

Do you have Albert Wharton /Daisy Woolnough's marriage cert?

How old was Albert when he died -or Daisy?

Was Albert b. Cleethorpes?

What year was their eldest child born?

Dis Albert/Daisy have a middle name?

Sorry for all the questions, but any snippet of info will help with the search.

Suz
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: piper4 on Thursday 18 October 07 21:20 BST (UK)
hi roobarb

thanks for replying will let you know if that area come up

piper  :) :)
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: piper4 on Thursday 18 October 07 21:29 BST (UK)
hi suzard

thanks for replying, ok marriage cert? no but may be able to get

not sure when albert born, around early 1900's he was alvive in 1965 so may have died late 60's early seventies

Daisy was born 1909 (mutford) suffolk, died dec 1989 cleethorpes?grimsby

Albert born grimsby?

albert william, Daisy was Daisy Elizabeth

eldest child peter wharton born 12 sep 1934
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: suzard on Thursday 18 October 07 21:48 BST (UK)
Just found Daisy Elizabeth's birth
Dec qtr 1909
Mutford district
4a 1079

Mutford reg district covers part of Suffolk/part of Norfolk

It's important to remember birth, marriage, deaths records give the disrict in which they were registered-which is not necessarily the actual town/village where they were born -but a town/village which comes under a certain registration district.

This looks like Daisy's death reg

Daisy Elizabeth Wharton
born 22 Oct 1909
died 1989
age 80
Grimsby district
Volume 7 page 549

If you get their marriage certificate it should give the name and occupations of their fathers-also the names of witnesses are helpful, as sometimes they are family members.

Birth certificates give parents names and mothers maiden name

Once you have those we can begin to trace back through the census

Suz

Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: suzard on Thursday 18 October 07 21:52 BST (UK)
There is this birth
Albert W Wharton
Sept qtr 1911
Mother's maiden name:Sanderson
Grimsby district
7a 1148

is this a possibility???

Suz
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: piper4 on Thursday 18 October 07 21:54 BST (UK)
hi suz

thanks for that, as i said going ok on Daisy's side, she nee woolnough her mum was agnes woolnough nee harber her dad Alfred woolnough can trace harbers back to 1712??????? just cant find the wharton side  ??? ??? ???


piper  :) :)
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: piper4 on Thursday 18 October 07 21:59 BST (UK)
hi

I will look into that thanks, it is hard as only living relative is peter, and he cant remember much!! his cousin john may know alittle more i think albert had brothers and sisters but they were only half b/s so may have different surnames will have to find some certificates

piper  :) :)
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: suzard on Thursday 18 October 07 22:27 BST (UK)
I have found the following -of course it is only speculation, marriage cert will give Albert's father.

If the birth reg found for Albert is the correct one - mother's maiden name Sanderson - then this is a possible marriage for his parents

marriage
Albert William Wharton
Gertrude Sanderson
Sept qtr 1908
Bradford
Yorks
9b 61

I know this marriage is in Yorks, but there is a grimsby connection

this could be Albert (father of your Albert William)
1891
19 Poynter St
Holy Trinity
Yorks
Robert R Wharton Head M 29 Watchmaker b. Grimsby Lincs
Hanna E wife 30 b. Poplar London
Albert son 5 b. Grimsby Lincs
Lillian daughter 4 b. Grimsby Lincs
Edith daughter 1 b. Grimsby Lincs

RG12 3943 127 23

1901
Mary Vale Road
Kings Norton
Worcestershire
Robert R Wharton head M 39 Watchmaker and repairer b. Grimsby Lincs
Hannah wife 39 b. London
Albert V son 16 Watchmakers Assistant b. grimsby Lincs
Lillian daughter 14 b. Grimsby lincs
Edith daughter 11 b. Grimsby lincs

RG13 2805 117 26

Will leave it for now - please post details of any certificates you can get hold of -and names of half siblings (please do not post details of any living person) and we can take it from there

Just been checking births and the Albert in the census may be Albert Victor Wharton -he is Albert W in 1891, Albert V in 1901
Only Lincs birth I can find about that time is Albert Victor!



looking forward to further information

Suz
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: piper4 on Monday 22 October 07 21:43 BST (UK)
hi suz

well been asking about not got much info but found out albert died 1971
found death record

albert william
b 6 july (which tallies with your sep qtr)  1911
died jul/aug/sep qtr cleethorpes 1971
3b 398???

so may have found when born/died but nothing else!!!

did find out he had at least two hallf brothers sid and bob flynn??? who i think were in army

will keep searching

piper  :) :) :)
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: piper4 on Monday 22 October 07 21:45 BST (UK)
ps;;

could be variations of flynn spelling??  :) :)
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: linclinks on Monday 22 October 07 22:09 BST (UK)
When you get going, I have quite a few Lincolnshire Whartons in my database which you can reach via http://www.linclinks.co.uk

Regards

Jacky
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: Ian Farr-Wharton on Thursday 12 July 18 05:06 BST (UK)
Are you looking for "Wharton" in Grimsby Lincoln UK ??? I got a family tree going all the wat back to John Wharton (B) 1711 with Wharton all coming from in the Grimsby area...I come from Edwin Farr Wharton (B) 1885 Grimsby, that left the UK for Australia...
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: larkspur on Thursday 12 July 18 17:04 BST (UK)
I think the parents were Albert William Wharton b 1886 Hull. Married Sept 1908 in Bradford (9b/61) to Gertrude Sanderson.
Marriage Bradford,21 Aug 1908 Albert William aged 22 fisherman abode Hope Street Grimsby father Henry a wood turner deceased. Gertrude 26 years spinster abode Bradford father Richard a blacksmith.
Other children, Sept 1909 Wharton-- Ethel Lavinia-- Grimsby    7a   579    MMS Sanderson
Albert W in 1911
June 1914 WHARTON    Betsy J   MMS  Sandersoon    Grimsby    7a   1219   

Marriage Dec 1917(7a/1381)Gertrude Wharton to Robert J Flynn
There were births for the names you mention including a daughter, but as these people may still be with us I am not giving their names here.
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: larkspur on Thursday 12 July 18 17:28 BST (UK)
 Class: RG12; Piece: 3931; Folio: 33; Page: 26 1891 census, Louisa's Terrace Sculcoates
Jane Wharton   44 widow living on own means.
Thomas Wharton   21
Charles Wharton   10
James Wharton   13
Anne Wharton   8
Albert Wm Wharton   4
The children all born in Hull.

WHARTON, ALBERT  WILLIAM     MMS--MCMULLEN     
Jun 1886  HULL  Volume 09D  Page 308
WHARTON, THOMAS  HENRY     MMS--MCMULLINS 
1870   HULL  Volume 09D  Page 207
WHARTON, JAMES   MMS--    MULLINS     
 1878   in HULL  Volume 09D  Page 280

Marriages Jun 1863 
MCMULLAN    Jane        Sculcoates    9d   241    
Wharton    Henry        Sculcoates    9d   241   

 Deaths Mar 1891
Wharton    Henry   age 44    Hull    9d   164
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: suzard on Friday 13 July 18 00:13 BST (UK)
I think the parents were Albert William Wharton b 1886 Hull. Married Sept 1908 in Bradford (9b/61) to Gertrude Sanderson.
Marriage Bradford,21 Aug 1908 Albert William aged 22 fisherman abode Hope Street Grimsby father Henry a wood turner deceased. Gertrude 26 years spinster abode Bradford father Richard a blacksmith.



some details (from image- written very clearly) of the above marriage
Bradford St Peter Yorks
Aug 1908
Albert William Wharton 22 B  157 Hope St Grimsby father Henry W occ Woodturner
Gertrude Sanderson 21 S 106 Hollings Rd father Richard S occ Blacksmith

father's middle initials may help -and Gertrude's age reads 21

Suz
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: larkspur on Friday 13 July 18 13:43 BST (UK)
mmmm I didn't put the details Suzard as I thought I would get my legs slapped, :P sent a private message to the OP.
Title: Re: wharton family
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 13 July 18 16:13 BST (UK)
ALBERT William WHARTON Baptised 20 Jun 1911 St Paul, Grimsby
(Birth 6 Jun 1910)
Parents ALBERT VICTOR and GERTRUDE
Fathers Occp Fisherman
Abode 11 Armstrong St
(FreeREG)