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Hi,
I am doing a one name study of the Rossiter family and am looking for information please about the parents and siblings of Catharine Rossiter, who married William Davis in 1843 at Holy Trinity ( Monmouth Place), Bath.
Any information would be greatly appreciated please. TIA.
Best wishes
rcuser
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hello,
do you have a birth place for either of them ? or an approximate date ?
Dj
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Hi DJ,
Unfortunately I don't have any dates or place of birth.
I am assuming that the bride at least was born in the Bath Registration District as at that time brides tended to marry in their birthplace.
I have found a number of William Davises in Somerset all born circa 1800/1801.
I wondered about the possibility of accessing the marriage record to perhaps obtain ages at marriage or the names of fathers.
Best wishes
rcuser
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there is a William davis living Catherine in 1851 in St Michael BATH
he was born about 1795 (age 56) he was a porter born in Hereford
she was 54 and born in Bath
49 walish( walist) ? street
there is also a Ruth Kennell on the record but on the census return it looks like a separate abode
H O 107 1941 page 24
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Hellp, Recuser,
First of all I found this
1851 census
HO107/1933folio 93 page 6
Crossways, Stoke Lane, Somerset
William Davis age 26 Smith b Som West Cranmore
Catharine wie age 27 b Stoke Lane
Edmund son age 7 b ditto
Alfred William son age 5 b ditto
Sarah Ann dau age 3 b ditto
Seward Charles son age 1 b ditto
Then came the problem of finding out where Stoke Lane is or was, was it near Bath ??? I had to look at the enumerator's schedule & found it as Stoke Lane otherwise Stoke St
Michael. This, in fact, near Shepton Mallet, not really very near Bath. William & Catharine married in Bath, & I had the similar sort of problem with my own ancestor's marrying in Bath in 1832, but they did not live anywhere near Bath they came from a small village near Taunton. Perhaps it was the IN thing to marry in a large church in a main town.
In trying to find Catharine Rossiter in the 1841 census, I found there is a family of Thomas & Martha Rossiter in Stoke Lane but with no Catharine as a daughter but then she would have been old enough to have left home & perhaps go in service.
HO107 bk 14 folio 16 page 2.
There was a Catharine Rossiter in the 1841 census b 1837 in t Michael, Bristol with parents William & Mary, but this did not seem to fit.
HO107 bk 8 folio 20 page 34
re. William Davis, I found there is no West Cranmore but there is a Cranmore again near Shepton Mallet. I found that he is on the same pages as the Thomas & Martha Rossiter in Stoke Lane.
HO107 963 bk 14 folio 16 page 3
Three Ashes Stoke Lane
William Davis age 20 Blacksmith born in co. Yes.
So it looks as tho' the Thomas & Martha family could be the one for Catharine. Would you like the census details ?
Sorry I can't find anything definite for Catharine, I will have another trawl round,
Meliora
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i've found the census... it's a bit of a coincidence that he should live so near a Rossiter family.
it would be agreat help to you i think to order the marriage cert as you would know the occupations of the couple and fathers and their names.
have you got the ref ?
Dj
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i have found Catharine Rossiter married record vol11 page 13 1843 bath dec qrt.
but when i look at the record for William there is no Catherine listed but the references are the same for both parties.
Dj
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Hi DJ / Meliora,
Thanks for your posts.
I have Thomas Rossiter & his wife Martha Treasure in my database. I don't have Catherine listed as one of the children but as Thomas & Martha married circa 1824 it's likely that Catherine was their first child.
I would have expected her to be in the 1841 Census and would be grateful for any census details you have please.
Best wishes
rcuser
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Hiya again. I have found a catherine rossiter stoke lane . Born 1826 age 15 in 1841
107/963 page 14.
will check image tomorrow .
dj
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Re. Last post
catherine living 4 houses away from william davis . There is a william wilson 65 and sarah wilson 65 next door or same house . Three ashes is the name of Dwelling.
dj
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hi Rcuser,
just some snippets of info and i'm more awake ;)
IF these are your folks then ... Three Ashes was 20 miles from Monmouth Place Bath.
If you type in Three Ashes , stoke Michael on Maps Google you will find where they lived 1841, and
Crossways,Midway, stoke st michael Radstock avon BA3 you will see the location where they moved to in 1851.
Now there is virtually nothing but on old maps it can be seen well. there were just a few houses, so if C and W did live there you could hardly avoid each other! However i cannot see a smithy marked on the map at 3 ashes or Midway but maybe he was Smithy to the farm and dwellings there (STOKE FARM).
3 Ashes was on a cross roads but those roads have gone now.
1841- William Wilson was a Chelsea Pensioner ,now i've looked again it looks like she lived with them ... no occupation noted for her.
it all fits in quite well , the Thomas and martha does look very possible, age etc and it looks like C was the eldest and that they ran out of space at home :D They are living just up the road from 3 Ashes in the direction of Bath. i noticed on the oS maps there were 2 , at least, methodist chapels and so i wonder if this is why they went to Bath. Of course St Micaels at Stoke Lane was the parish church.
Debz
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Me again ;D
It is a very long shot but in the Pigot's Directory of Bath in 1844 there is a William Davis, Smith Picadilly Place, which is 1.1 mile to Monmouth Place Bath.
It could be his father ?
Debz
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Hi Debz,
Thanks for the information which I'm hastily typing into my database.
Found it unusual for a family to marry so far away from their birthplace but maybe at the time, as Meliora says, it was the custom to marry in a big town/city.
It's no wonder it's so difficult to track them down when they move completely out of area.
Thanks again for your help.
Have a good weekend.
Best wishes
rcuser
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it is very unusual to go so far unless William did have a connection with the W Davis , coincidence that he has the same occupation, in Bath.
the Holy Trinity church has a colourful history explained .....
let me know if you want anything else, happy to help.
Debz