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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: alunno-a on Tuesday 23 October 07 15:12 BST (UK)
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Does anyone have any idea how I can find details on JAMES TUXWORTH, born according to 1861-1901
census at Louth or Legbourne. I cannot find him in 1841, or 51, and in 1861 his wife and children in Grimsby are alone, he a sailor. He married in Hull, 1853, underage, and gave no fathers details, address or meaningful occupation-cant even identify the witnesses!! HELP!
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I had a problem like this with my grandfather who I could not find in any Census until he was married.
I eventually found him in earlier census and he was using the name of his mothers husband - so my suggestion is that you look for Tuxworth marriages around this time and then look for them to see if they are harbouring a James
There is a marriage of a Mary Tuxworth to a Charles Widower Johnson in Legbourne 24 May 1836 (bizarrely my elusive grandfather was a Charles Johnson!)
At Louth the nearest marriages are
TUXWORTH WILLIAM BROCKLEBANK JANE 18320521 LOUTH ST JAMES
TUXWORTH LYDIA EARL WILLIAM 18320614 LOUTH ST JAMES
TUXWORTH MARY ANN BRAMFITT THOMAS 18360411 LOUTH ST JAMES
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There is a marriage of a Mary Tuxworth to a Charles Widower Johnson in Legbourne 24 May 1836
Nice one!
That seems to work for 1841 (in Louth) but James is not with the rest of them in 1851 :(
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Thank you. How stupid of me not to think of that. James Johnson looks very promising from the 1841 census- my Tuxworth called one son Charles, and another David--I shall work on this,was your marriage from the parish registers? I had not come across this Mary Tuxworth. Thank-you again.
Sally
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Sounds promising -
The marriage was from the Lincolnshire Family History Society Marriage Index - what would we do without these wonderful people?
Regards
Jacky
And of course James may not have known of his surname until it was time for the official documentation of his marriage - I have come across a lot of examples of this. In 1851 he may have been at sea at the time of the Census.
Jacky
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Thank-you Jacky, Thats great.
Of course you are right about the surname--but I am pretty sure he wasnt at sea in 1851--I think he and wife Julia met at Louth, married Hull but gives occ as "labourer", also "labourer" and "oil cake maker" (much same thing!) on birth certs of first children. Being a sailor and absent 1861 is only reference to sea I have.-still you may be right!!
Thanks, Sally
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I have a lot of Lincolnshire Graves in my database - mainly from the Billinghay area
http://www.linclinks.co.uk
Regards
Jacky
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Dear Jacky,
Thank-you for the link to your amazing data base- am bowled away!!
Just had a quick look- and I know I am off topic here, but, re Graves/Pedge--I have Easter, Welbeck etc children of Mary Pedge and Robert Graves as all born Skellingthorpe, rather than Swinderby, -am I wrong?? I have direct ancester Job Graves, in record as Greaves, also as being their son. But am worried by Greaves, and IGI reference to his father as Robin not Robert. I know that was a normal diminutive, but looks like only use of it here. Would love some help!!- my Job was father of Julia who married James Tuxworth, just to get back on message!
Sally
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I shouldnt worry about the Robin, I am sure it is the same family. He married as Job Graves in the Marriage Index to Mary White 12 Feb 1824 at Thurlby. A baby of three weeks old was buried at Thurlby by Lincoln 11 Jul 1853. Job Senior was buried 10 Feb 1846 as Job Graves - age is a bit out as it says he was 43
I must have had a senior moment when I entered his siblings as born in Swinderby - I will correct at next update.
Given that one of Job' children is called Henrietta Pedge Graves, I think you can be confident in your conclusions
Best regards
Jacky
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Why oh why were Julia and James using the Graves surname in 1901???
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The Graves use 1901 is a bit of a mystery. My grt grandmother, thier dau Adeliza, was registered as Adeliza Graves Tuxworth and always used the name; if she had been on this household I would assume a copiest error- as it is I wonder if they had started to use Graves Tuxworth collectively, and it was a transcription mistake. James died as Tuxworth.
Job has a fine headstone in Thurlby churchyard-recording also the deaths of 2 infants, he was churchwarden. The family seem to have been proud of the name, or of him--although Mary his widow died as a pauper in Louth 1851.
Thaks for assurence on correct parents for Job--confused by the 1853 infant though-was it a Graves??
-Sally
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I expect Job Graves 1853 was the child of a sibling - the only other Graves that I can find post 1851 is Job William who married first in 1854 and again in 1877 and his only child Charles William b 1878 in Clun, Shropshire.
Regards
Jacky
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Hi Alunno-A,
Just been reading the thread you started,and was wondering if you had a John Tuxworth b c1802 and a Lucy Tuxworth b c1807.
Only reason for asking,lm researching this family name,from Grimsby to Legbourne.
l also have Eliza Tuxworth b c1838,Frank Tuxworth b c1840 and Jane Tuxworth b c1842.
lf you feel theses names are occuring in your family tree,please feel free to contact me.
Yours
B.Archer
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Hi, In my search for James, I have probably come across every Tuxworth in Lincolnshire, not to mention Middx, Australia etc!! I have looked at Lucy , and many others but can tie none to my family yet--very willing to swap info with you, although as I have not established a connection it is pretty thin stuff. Would be very grateul if you would let me know if you ever come across a James bc1834, or a base born of any type--or, have you found a record for an illegitimate child of an Elizabeth Tuxworth of Ranby, Lincs, or Horncastle etc???--
Sally
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Hi Sally,
Am now going to go through my tree and see what l can come up with.
Kind Regards
B.Archer
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Beware that on the IGI two families have been mixed for John Tuxwoth and Lucy
There are two John and Lucy Tuxworths
One - linked to my family was John Desforges Tuxworth who married Lucy Coulam at Little Carlton in 1830 - they had a stack of children at Tathwell and Elkington
According to the IGI The other John Tuxworth (b circa 1802 at Storton(sic) on the 1851 Census)married Lucy Day at Avington, Hampshire, also in 1830 -BUT HE IS NOT JOHN DESFORGES TUXWORTH. The 1851 Census reports that she was born at Avington. Their children were born at Legbourne
Regards
Jacky
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Hi Jacky,
Just noticed in your family tree line you have a "Ticklepenny",have you
done any research,into if they are conected with "Ticklepennys Lock",near Alvingham just outside Louth. ?
Kind Regards
B.Archer
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Yes, I have Ticklepenny Ancestors but dont go back further than 1714
e-mail me on Email address removed. Please use Personal Messaging System to exchange personal data.and I will send you a report of what I have.
Regards,
Jacky
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Jacky: I agree - an amazing database - lots of janneys!
I have a tuxworth somewhere in my tree too - Prudence who married miles jacklin
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Hello Everyone!!!
I know this is a ridiculously old thread now, and I apologize for the resurrection, if it is not board etiquette. BUT, I wanted to thank all the wonderful people on here who have helped, and update... great help does not go in vain!!
I looked at James Johnson on 1841 Louth census, with a Charles and Mary, who had apparently married in Legbourn, and it all fitted wonderfully. Then I had a wobbley!!!!! I found James Johnson on the subsequent censae and it wasn't my James Tuxworth.
BUT-- it was still getting at me, especially as my James Tuxworth called his penultimate son David, and claimed his own birth in both Legbourn and Louth. ( and I found him aquitted in Criminal registers as Tuxworth) Then I discovered there were 2 James Johnsons b c 1834 in Louth on the census, and the one I had followed was not the son of a Charles. So, I did a "tree" for all these Johnsons, and followed the sons to London, which was interesting....as my James ended up in the East End too.
The breakthrough came when I discovered the baptism for David Tuxworth, the son of James and Julia Tuxworth... he was baptised as David Johnson!!!!!! at Bow, London, the same address, exactly, as my great Grandmother Adeliza Tuxworth. Conclusive me thinks??
Also, David Johnson, prospective half-brother of my James Tuxworth, married at Grimsby while my James was living there- I bought his marriage cert and discovered a witness was a James Tuxforth-- OK ,,, not Tuxworth, but my James is in a census as James Tuxforth, and was, at the time illiterate.
So, I have my great grandfather as bastard son of Mary Tuxworth, later wife of Charles Johnson, Bearhouse Keeper, ~Louth. Any clues on Mary??????
Well, I am happy with it anyway!-- Would love any comments from you all if you think I am totally wrong!- but if not , again, thank-you all for your brilliant help!!
Rootschat fan, although I was already.
Sally
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So, I have my great grandfather as bastard son of Mary Tuxworth, later wife of Charles Johnson, Bearhouse Keeper, ~Louth.
Much beer in Louth but very few bears ;)
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Woops!!
I spell checked that too!!!
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I've a distant Tuxworth sideline coming forward in the Louth area from the early 1600s. I've not done that much on it further forward but I have been through some of the surrounding parishes to Louth. I'll have a look and see if I've got anything on your Mary.
Nicola
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Very Kind, thank-you.
According to the census, my Mary Tuxworth was b c 1814 at Ashby, or West Ashby. She possibly was a sister therefor to an Elizabeth that married a Henry Crowson?? Maybe a daughter of an Elizabeth and William Tuxworth, although there seem to be a few couples of that name.
Very complicated these Tuxworths! So, any help VERY gratefully received.
Sally
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Hi Sally
They are complicated, it cost me several Wills and a Marriage Licence to confirm which Robert Tuxworth married Dorothy Patchett in 1679 in Lincoln. His mother is the sister of one of my ancestors but you only find out who she is if you come forward from her side since the marriage is missing! Unfortunately a lot of the research on that Tuxworth line on the web seems a bit suspect so I've been reluctant to let others know her maiden name until I've confirmed their research is correct otherwise they'll be attaching themselves to my line even if its incorrect ::)
I'll see what I have and let you know. At some point the intention is to come forward on the Tuxworths anyway.
Nicola
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Hi, please, can you help me? Iam in need o Anything that will help me with my mass confusion, re; Greaves/Graves...possible names.. Euphemia[phebe] graves. she [may have married Martin?? the same line here shows SUSAN or Susannah Kennet, b, 1725, she supposedly married Walter Jenkins,from Monmouthshire, Wales u k . Also Somewhere amongst this line is the Covington, surname too.I have been searching from wales, -usa- to canada- back toENGLAND uk -over n over again trying to fit this jigsaw puzzle ... If you have the same names as I do please help?I am of the ALLEN/JENKINS line.. all of where the above names are supposedly linked from back history to nearer 1800/1900'right from- to Elizabeth Allen' Born in Thornbury Bristol, 1765. My next task, is to 'still try to find the' mother? of Elizabeth Allen', her possible father was William a builder of Aylsbury glos possibly a qauker, not certain yet thogh. ,I got very lost here re; Elizabeth Allen' mother, where is she.. i wonder..... thank you for taking the time to read this. best wishes from a rather lost soul on this subject! smiles from Diane. ???
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Woops!!
I spell checked that too!!!
Hi, please, can you help me? Iam in need o Anything that will help me with my mass confusion, re; Greaves/Graves...possible names.. Euphemia[phebe] graves. she [may have married Martin?? the same line here shows SUSAN or Susannah Kennet, b, 1725, she supposedly married Walter Jenkins,from Monmouthshire, Wales u k . Also Somewhere amongst this line is the Covington, surname too.I have been searching from wales, -usa- to canada- back toENGLAND uk -over n over again trying to fit this jigsaw puzzle ... If you have the same names as I do please help?I am of the ALLEN/JENKINS line.. all of where the above names are supposedly linked from back history to nearer 1800/1900'right from- to Elizabeth Allen' Born in Thornbury Bristol, 1765. My next task, is to 'still try to find the' mother of Elizabeth Allen', her possible father was William a builder of Aylburton- glos possibly a qauker, not certain yet thogh. ,I got very lost here re; Elizabeth Allen' mother, where is she.. i wonder..... thank you for taking the time to read this. best wishes from a rather lost soul on this subject! smiles from Diane. ??? HO DEAR i got myself here on a wrong page now.. somehow.. so sorry
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Hello Sally,
I don't know if it's any use to you but, in researching the Rhodes family, I found that John Rhodes (1717-1804) was married to Elizabeth Tuxworth (1724-1796). She was born in Scamblesby, Lincolnshire.
Jack
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Hi Jack,
Thank-you. I don't know if that is significant or not! But I shall add it to my Tuxworth fact collection- you never know when these bits will suddenly be useful!
Do you have any further info on Elizabeth?
Thanks again
Sally
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Hello Sally,
The only other data that I have on Elizabeth Tuxworth is that she was the second Elizabeth born to William Tuxford and Elizabeth (name not known yet) and she had a younger sister Mary, born 1726, again in Scamblesby.
Jack
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Hello all, do you know if theseTuxworth names are any relation to the Allen or Jenkins line at all please? just reply yeh, no. or i don't know.. many many, sincere thank you's from Diane.
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Yes, I have Ticklepenny Ancestors but dont go back further than 1714
e-mail me on Email address removed. Please use Personal Messaging System to exchange personal data.and I will send you a report of what I have.
Regards,
Jacky
Hi,
I have Ticklepenny connections in my family tree. James William Ticklepenny b. 11 June 1862 in Mumby Lincoln, married Emily Harriet Whiting in 1891. Do you have any link?
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Yes, I have Ticklepenny Ancestors but dont go back further than 1714
e-mail me on Email address removed. Please use Personal Messaging System to exchange personal data.and I will send you a report of what I have.
Have 2 get back 2 to on this one matie.. my mind is a blank therse names
Regards,Diane.
Jacky
Hi,
I have Ticklepenny connections in my family tree. James William Ticklepenny b. 11 June 1862 in Mumby Lincoln, married Emily Harriet Whiting in 1891. Do you have any link?
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Just checked my tree and I have a Frank Tuxworth in it born 1840 in Legbourne, dont know if this is any connection to OP tree. Dont have any other info except he married a Mary Vamplew in Louth in 1864 but then lived in Grimsby. They had 7 children
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Hi there!!
I'm the OP- this is a rediculously old thred started when I had not one clue on my James Tuxworth- things have moved on, and now I know a little more- in that I know who his mother and step-father were. I believe there is a connection with Frank Tuxworth- but can't be sure what it is. James may have been born in Legbourne, but not bapt there- his mother Mary Tuxworth married a Charles Johnson in 1836 at Legbourne- and I feel she must be connected to the other (one- maybe two) Tuxworth families in Legbourne at that time- poss- and I hope, cos it would make things a lot easier- she was daughter of William Tuxworth and sister therefor to John the father of Frank.
sally