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Title: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: treeworm on Thursday 25 October 07 23:30 BST (UK)
Hi folks :)

I believe that my gt gran's family ran 'The Wherry Inn' at 55 Wyle Cop, Shrewsbury, from 1891 onwards...til not sure when.

My gt gran's mother and father were John Edwards b. 1848 Wellington and Elizabeth Edwards (nee Griffiths) b1845 Wellington, and she was Fanny Edwards b. 1885 Atcham who married Charles Anslowb1881.

Is there anyone out there that has a link to this branch of my tree...or know anything about 'The Wherry Inn'. In research I found it belonged to Louisa Dobson in 1848, and was called the 'Old Wherry'.
Family rumours say that one of my gt gran's sisters; Elizabeth or Emma who later ran the pub died in a vat of beer!!! :o It'd be lovely if someone out there could fill me in on the details!! ;D

Thank you, Gillian
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 26 October 07 07:41 BST (UK)
I don't know anything about your family unfortunately, but I can find out exactly where on Wyle Cop no. 55 is.  I have a rough idea but can't pinpoint it just yet.

I will telephone the Shropshire Archives (http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/archives.nsf) when they are open later, to see if they can tell me. 

In the meantime I came across these while Googling!:

WYLE COP 1900 (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/2002-07/1027457402)

POPPING IN FOR A PINT (http://www.robertbullard.com/clippings/robert_bullard_popping_in_for_a_pint.htm)

The second item does say "As for Wyle Cop there was the Old Wherry (No.55 to the right of the old Mansers premises)" so that narrows it down as I know where Mansers used to be.
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: treeworm on Friday 26 October 07 15:05 BST (UK)
Hi Lloydy :)

Thanks so much for the reply.

On the list it says that the owner of 55 Wyle Cop in 1900 was Henry Edwards....so the family is right and Henry must be  'Harry' b. 1884...who although he was only 16 in 1900 was the only remaining male offspring.

In the 1891 census it also says that The Wherry was next to the Salvation Army....so we're on the right track! ;D

Thank you so much for your interest...Gillian
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 26 October 07 22:21 BST (UK)
I phoned Shropshire Archives and, interestingly, when they did a search for the current occupiers of No 55 nothing came up ???  They are going to investigate some more and get back to me by email within 10 days.

I just hope you can wait that long ;D
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: treeworm on Friday 26 October 07 23:09 BST (UK)
Thank you very much Lloydy for your trouble :)

Ten days is nothing when you're investigating happenings of over 100 years ago!!!!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they will be able to tell us something ...but if not, I thank you and really appreciate your help. ;D

Gillian



Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: s.g.d. on Saturday 27 October 07 01:14 BST (UK)
1828 Louisa Dobson

1851 George Minshull

1895 John Edwards
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: Lloydy on Tuesday 06 November 07 21:55 GMT (UK)

I've received the following reply from the Shropshire Archives:

"Thank you for your enquiry.  I have looked at the buildings on Wyle Cop and while there is not a house numbered as 55, there is a plain white building between the shops, which may have been number 55, or part of it.  55 Wyle Cop used to be the Old Wherry Inn.  It is listed in Kelly's Directory as being run by John Edwards in 1891, Elizabeth Edwards in 1900 and then Henry Edwards between 1905 and 1926.  It is not listed after this time."

Next time I venture down Wyle Cop I'll take my digital camera with me....... ;)                         
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: Shropshire Lass on Tuesday 06 November 07 23:20 GMT (UK)
I found this:

"As for Wyle Cop there was the Old Wherry (No.55 - to the right of the old Mansers premises), Raven & Bell (No.77 - a hotel above Julia's flower shop), Spread Eagle, London House Inn (10 - at the junction with Dogpole), and Unicorn (No.29-30 - now Tanners)."

here:

www.robertbullard.com/clippings/robert_bullard_popping_in_for_a_pint.htm

Will that help with the photos, Lloydy?

Monica
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: s.g.d. on Wednesday 07 November 07 01:37 GMT (UK)
Wherry,55 Wyle Cop

here in 1780 and recorded from 1786 to 1925.

de-licensed 30th June 1928.

from 1828 onwards always called the Old Wherry,

in 1828 the carrier to Ironbridge and district went from here.

s.g.d.
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: s.g.d. on Wednesday 07 November 07 01:41 GMT (UK)
it was next to the salvation army barracks so probably half way betwixt the Lion and Pheasant(49) and the corn merchant(59a)that is now the cornhouse.

s.g.d.
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: treeworm on Wednesday 07 November 07 15:31 GMT (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D ;D Thank you Lloydy, s.g.d and Monica

You have given me several leads to work on now, and, best of all, it all seems to confirm my guesses and family rumours.


Family rumours say that one of my gt gran's sisters; Elizabeth or Emma who later ran the pub died in a vat of beer!!!

Now, if someone could just explain how a person could die in a vat of beer!!! :o :o ;D

Thanking you all VERY VERY much, Gillian
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: Shropshire Lass on Wednesday 07 November 07 16:35 GMT (UK)
Well, I've heard of adding a rat to a barrel of cider to improve the flavour... :o

If such a death happened, you can bet much would be made of it in "The Shrewsbury Chronicle".  Maybe the newspaper archives would be another place to look.

Monica
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 08 November 07 14:48 GMT (UK)

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As for Wyle Cop there was the Old Wherry (No.55 - to the right of the old Mansers premises

Thanks Monica.......I had thought it might be that premises. 

This link shows you the current occupants of the Old Mansers premises, listed as 53-54 Wyle Cop
http://www.oakapplefurniture.com/editorials.asp?c=6&d=11
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: Shropshire Lass on Thursday 08 November 07 23:39 GMT (UK)
This link shows you the current occupants of the Old Mansers premises, listed as 53-54 Wyle Cop

I'll bet that's a lot posher than the pub was!

Monica
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 09 November 07 21:47 GMT (UK)

I drove down the cop tonight and had a brief look at what I think is No 55.......unfortunately, as it was an unplanned journey I didn't have my camera with me.

It's a 3 story white building, and not as posh as next door!!!!!  I'll get a photo for you over the weekend.
Title: Re: The Wherry Inn, Wyle Cop,
Post by: ONEWHITEROSE on Thursday 11 January 18 18:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Gillian, Fanny Edwards (I knew her as Aunty Daisy) was my grandmother's sister.  My husband and I have had an afternoon out in Shrewsbury today and I started to talk about my ancestry. I looked on the internet for references to The Wherry Public House and came across your post on Roots Chat.  Fanny Edward's father was John Thomas Pritchard, born in Shrewsbury.  My grandmother was Alice Maud Mary Pritchard one of sixteen children.  I too have heard the story that Daisy and her husband were at The Wherry and they
brought up a large family there.  I am in touch with two of Daisy's grandchildren, who live in Shropshire.  I can give you more information on the Pritchard family if you are interested.