Toni,
as far as I know we still don't have Defiance Penfold in 1881...this where it gets tricky,there is Defiance and Fiance both born 1872.(I think Ive got that right)..
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/PENFOLD/2001-03/0985478421
have you seen this Deb?
What if William b 1833 is another sibling of John 1809, Robert 1816, Maria 1831...ie he one of the last children of John Penfold who Married Charlotte??
Deleted.....Bearkat had already posted....... :-[
But is this the baptism of John and Harriet Penfold's daughter Charlotte ?
Charlotte Penfold daughter of John & Harriett Penfold was baptised 2 Sep 1838 at North Stoneham, Hampshire
.....dee
HOLY MOLY toni ...I am making you a honourary PENFOLD !!! ;D ;D
deb :D
Defiance Penfold baptised in Truro
parents Robert and Louisa
P0096361
Free Reg
Defiance Penfold....daughter of Robert & Louisa....Truro St Mary's .....22 Sep 1872
Thanks for that info.... Do you have dates for the children? We have John , Robert, Maria, William and Olive.... we need Mary Ann and Rachel. Who were the others?
Have you figured out who Charlotte is ?
Toni ...just seen you post ...we are on the same wave length ;D
:)
we have Priscilla Page = Amos Thompson
1851 was 43, b c 1808
(There is an IGI , submitted record for Priscilla Page , 1 May 1808, Staplehurst, Kent, parents; James Page and Priscilla.) ... But can't find an Amelia with same parents arrgghhhhhh
will search further
deb
1851:
Ferring, Sussex
Amos Thompson 45 Hawker , b NK
Priscilla " 43, b NK
Priscilla " 16 , b NK
Henry " 15 , hawker, b NK
Fred " 12 , Hawker, b NK
William " 11, Hawker , b NK
James, " 10 , Hawker , b NK
Thomas " , 7 , b, NK
Harriett " 4, b NK
Patience " 2 b NK
written under this is:
The above family were shoping (sic) in the parish the morning of the 31st.
HO107/1651 fol 329 p 13
Is this Thompson family related? Difficult to read :-\
1841
HO107/389/4 Folio 26 Page 25
..........Land/Lane? Gipseys, Fareham, Hampshire
Emos Thompson (transcribed Emma) 30 Hawker N
Mary 30 N
Wm 6m Y
E........a 9 Y (female)
Pricilla 6 Y
Fredrick 2 Y
Harry 4 Y
Pricilla who married William her parents were Amos and Pricilla Thompson nee Page ( wonder if anything to do with Amelia Page who married Robert) wasnt sure about the others but that looks good know i dont have the certs
off to get kids from school be back in abit
1851:
Ferring, Sussex
Amos Thompson 45 Hawker , b NK
Priscilla " 43, b NK
Priscilla " 16 , b NK
Henry " 15 , hawker, b NK
Fred " 12 , Hawker, b NK
William " 11, Hawker , b NK
James, " 10 , Hawker , b NK
Thomas " , 7 , b, NK
Harriett " 4, b NK
Patience " 2 b NK
written under this is:
The above family were shoping (sic) in the parish the morning of the 31st.
HO107/1651 fol 329 p 13Is this Thompson family related? Difficult to read :-\
1841
HO107/389/4 Folio 26 Page 25
..........Land/Lane? Gipseys, Fareham, Hampshire
Emos Thompson (transcribed Emma) 30 Hawker N
Mary 30 N
Wm 6m Y
E........a 9 Y (female)
Pricilla 6 Y
Fredrick 2 Y
Harry 4 Y
did Amos marry twice ?
deb
Possible issue of John PENFOLD & Harriet James.
John (Q1,1837,Kingsclere,7,81)
Sarah (Q4,1838, Brighton,7,310)
Tom (Q1,1840, Midhurst,7,385)
Charlotte (Q3, 1846,Worthing,7,544)
Christopher (Q2,1845, Midhurst,7,414)
Alfred (Q2,1848,Lewes,7,116)
Henry (Q2,1851, Worthing,7,592)
Edward (Q1,1853,Worthing,2b,286)
Possible issue of Thomas PENFOLD & Sophia Orchard.
Fiance (Q3,1872,Redruth,5c,240)
Christopher (Q3,1877,Redruth,5c,222)
Nelson (Q1, 1883,St. Columb,5c,93)
Harriet (Q3,1891, Bideford,5b,492)
i sent you a PM Deb last night hope you got it, i a mnot sure if we have those census details already or not and waht is the difference between a circus censuss and a normal census?
circus folk are not on the normal census records as they where classed travellers so they had a seperate census done which includes fairground gypse hawkers and general travelleres