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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: andymulley on Wednesday 14 November 07 20:32 GMT (UK)
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Hello Rootschatters.
I am trying to obtain some information, and wondered if anyone had any information, on the Fowler family residing in brighton from mid 1800s. (my gt gt grandfather)
It starts with a Henry fowler born in Plymouth but appears in the 1851 census living at 8 Charles Street, kemp town, brighton.
14 years earlier he married in St pancras Middlesex to an Ellis Ades.
In 1861 Henry is a Draper, living at 87 london road, brighton with his wife and children, including Benjamnin Ades Fowler who left Brighton between 1871 and 1881 to kent (my nans parents). Joseph (who allegedly emigrated to Canada) Henry, Hannah and James who was a Drapers assistant and died in Brighon in 1903.
Ellis Fowler (nee Ades) died in Steyning.
john Fowler's family were still in Brighton in 1901.
If anyone can shed any light I would appreciate it as the fowlers are proving a little elusive!
Regards
Andy
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What kind of information do you require?
You seem to have census details??
Also you haven't given d.o.b. and p.o.b. for the children
Suz
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All the children were born in Brighton. Other than John who moved to Tonbridge and had my Nan I have very little other information on the Fowlers family. It seems they came from Devon but majority of information I have on fowlers is speculative and from what living relatives can vaguely remember.
Estimated dates from the ages in the 1851, 61 and 71 census'
John b 1839
hannah b 1841
Henry 1844
Joseph 1850
Benjamin 07/03/1853
Thank you.
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These seem to be possible birth regs for the children
John Fowler Sept qtr 1838 brighton 7 237
Hannah Fowler Dec qtr 1840 Brighton 7 247
Henry Ades Fowler Mar qtr 1844 Brighton 7 284
Joseph Ades Fowler Sept qtr 1850 Brighton 7 292
Benjamin Ades Fowler Jun qtr 1853 Brighton 2b 164
I'm still not certain of what information you are seeking - you say the Fowlers are elusive -but they are very easily traced throughout the census?
Also you say most of the information you have is speculative, yet you quote where they are on certain census?
Do you have all the census returns ?
Could you be more specific on what type of information you are seeking?
Maybe we can be of more help once we know what you require
Suz
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Hi Suz,
Thanks for the message. Basically looking for info on 'what happened next' and what happened before, during. Only been able to access the census' in 1851 61 and 71
Also of info on the places where they live, whther it still exists, whether any of the fowlers from this line still live in brighton. If anyone had any images, anything at all really.
Kind regards
Andy
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Hi - Joseph Ades Fowler did immigrate to Canada (Toronto Ontario) and in 1872 he married his first wife Mary Heathcotte Green (re Marr. Cert)
They had several children (I have their names if you are interested) then he md wife #2 Mary Thompson.
Joseph Ades became an architect and lived out his life in Goderich Ontario until he died in 1921 (re death cert). I have census records too.
You may want to see the watercolour Joseph Ades painted in 1916. http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/2010/02/genealogy-treasures-watercolour-spurs.html
His son Henry Ades went to Illinois and became a lawyer.
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I am doing reseasrch on Joseph Ades Fowler and his son Henry Ades as an interest in philately (stamps). I am trying to find a) Joseph's 1st wife's death Mary Heathcote Green and b) where and when his 2nd marriage to Mary Thompson. Interesting to note Joseph's tombstone is dedicated by his 5 children.
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Find My Past
Hannah Fowler, age 24, father Henry Fowler to William Coleman, age 30 (?), father George Coleman at St. Nicholas Church, Brighton, 1865
The newspaper report has the marriage 15 Aug 1865, father of bride is Henry Fowler, London Road and William Coleman is of Plymouth
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Find My Past
John Fowler, age 25, son of Henry Fowler married Emma Susannah Gutteridge, age 25, daughter of William Gutteridge at St. Nicholas, Brighton, 1864.
The newspaper has the marriage 29 March, John Ades Fowler, eldest son while Emma is the youngest daughter. Her brother, the Rev W H Gutteridge officiated.
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What was the philately connection?
I am doing reseasrch on Joseph Ades Fowler and his son Henry Ades as an interest in philately (stamps). I am trying to find a) Joseph's 1st wife's death Mary Heathcote Green and b) where and when his 2nd marriage to Mary Thompson. Interesting to note Joseph's tombstone is dedicated by his 5 children.
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If you are looking for Henry's origins, his marriage cert should give his father's name and occupation. I see it was just after civil registration started and Ancestry appears to have the parish register image. You could also find witnesses were family members.