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Title: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: rcuser on Saturday 17 November 07 10:58 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am doing a one name study of the Rossiter family and am looking for information please about the parents and siblings of Thomas Rossiter born circa 1851 in Bethersden.

He married Ruth Baker at Blean in the March Qtr of 1868.

Any information would be greatly appreciated please. TIA.

Best wishes

rcuser.
Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 17 November 07 11:15 GMT (UK)
The closest I can find is this one  :-\ -

1861 RG9/552 Folio 49 Page 29
List of persons not in houses, In the lanes of Cheriton, Kent

Thomas Rosetor 50 Fairkeeper Kent Canterbury
Barbara 50 Sussex Eastborne
James 26 Kent Milton
Caroline 23 London
Sally 22 Kent Pluckley
Harriet 20 Kent C.......berrow?
..any/ary? female 18 Surrey Epsom
Thomas 15 Kent Charlton
Walter 12 Kent Mulling
Elizabeth 8 Kent Sheerness
Margaret 5 Kent Maidstone
Jacob grandson 4 Kent Maidstone
Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 17 November 07 11:31 GMT (UK)
In 1871 a widowed Barbara Rositer (68 Hawker Milton Kent), daughters? Sarah (30 Hawker Pluckley), Martha (24 Hawker Epsom Surrey), Elizabeth (20 Hawker Ph..... Kent) and Margret (17 Hawker Maidstone) are living at 6 West Street (a lodging house) Minster, Kent

Also living there -
James Rositer 39 Hawker Milton and Elizabeth (his wife?) 24 Bath Somerset and Elizabeth Heath 3 Kent ..... Heath (Elizabeth's daughter??)
Jacob Rositer 16 Hawker Maidstone
James Rositer 2 Ramsgate

RG10/987 Folio 51 Page 31

Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: rcuser on Saturday 17 November 07 11:52 GMT (UK)
Hi CatOne,

Many thanks for the posts.

I suspect Thomas born 1851 is related to the families you have listed but infortunately I cannot prove it at the moment.

Is there any way of accessing Thomas's marriage record please to see who his father is?

He could fit in between Walter born 1848 and Elizabeth born 1852 but I don't understand why he does not appear on the censuses.

Best wishes

rcuser

Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 17 November 07 12:05 GMT (UK)
There are lots of ROSSITERS on this site  :D

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gypsy/gypsy.htm

but I can't see the baptism of Thomas ROSSITER born 1851. ???
Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: rcuser on Saturday 17 November 07 15:10 GMT (UK)
Hi bearkat,

Thanks for that.

I tried FreeBMD but could not find a birth record for him in 1851 either.

I have him here in the 1881 Census:-
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881BR_1047178&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99

Assuming he is a romany/gypsy/traveller he may be at the same location in the previous census.

The only other one I could find was Thomas Rositer born March Qtr 1852 in the St George Of The East Registration district.

Just wondering if the Thomas born Charlton, Kent in 1846 earlier in the thread and this Thomas born 1851 are one and the same.

Best wishes

rcuser

Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 17 November 07 15:27 GMT (UK)
In 1881, on the same page as your Thomas, theres also a James Rossiter, born Milton Kent, thats why I thought maybe this could be the same family. Traveller families seem to have varying names/ages from census to census  :-\ Will check out other censuses...

added: theres also a Jacob Rossiter aged 28 over the page, born M....stone, who would fit with grandson Jacob in 1861 (age out a few years)
Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: rcuser on Saturday 17 November 07 15:38 GMT (UK)
Hi CatOne,

Thanks for that.

Maybe another census will produce a different birthplace or birth year for Thomas. This has happened in other Rossiter branches so it is a possibility.

Kent Rossiters have turned up in Milton, Sittingbourne, West Malling, Elham, Charlton, Dover, Canterbury, Ashford, West Ashford to name but a few!! LOL!!

Best wishes

rcuser
Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 17 November 07 15:40 GMT (UK)
Also, in 1881, there is a William Harris and wife Elizabeth in the next caravan. I think this could be his sister from the 1861 census born Sheerness -

Marriage -

Elizabeth Rossiter March 1874 Milton Vol 2a Page 943
Grooms - William Harriss or William Henry Bloxham
Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 17 November 07 17:00 GMT (UK)
and this could be Margaret and husband -

Margaret Rossiter March 1874 Dover Vol 2a Page 1091
Groom - Francis Allum

1901 RG13/813 Folio 133 Page 16
38 Russell Street, Sheerness, Kent

Francis Allum 59 General Labourer Ipswich, Margaret 40 Maidstone + children Jane 19 Flower Hawker Sittingbourne, Elizabeth 16 Flower Hawker Hastings, Margaret 11 Oxford, Naomi 8 Norwich and Thomas 6 Ashford Kent

Not sure if you want to follow the girls, but her movements could be a clue to the movements of her parents and siblings.

Do you have brother Walter in 1901?

RG13/782 Folio 156 Page 44
26 Gravel Walk, Ashford, Kent

Walter Rossiter 49 Hawker Kent Tenterden?
Ellen 48 Sussex Battle
Barbara 17 Ashford
Olive 15 Ashford
Edward 13 Ashford
Thomas 9 Ashford
Nancy Ransley mar dau 26 Ashford
Walter Ransley grandson 6 Ashford
Cecelia Ransley granddau 3 Kent Swanley

next door (no.28) -
Susan Rossiter widow 41 E...worth London
William 20 son mar Kent Sittingbourne
Emily 20 d in law mar London
Naomi 15 g dau?  Kent Elmsted
Alfred 12 son Gravesend
Carrie 9 dau Ashford
Harriett 6 dau Ashford

Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: Spursbird on Sunday 18 November 07 20:18 GMT (UK)
Jacob Rossiter was married to my Gdads sister Maria Pettigrove in 1920 W Ashford St Marys Church. Contact me email address removed by moderator in accordance with Rootschat policy - please use the secure Rootschat personal message system to exchange personal email addresses - thankyou  for family history help.

Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: Spursbird on Sunday 18 November 07 23:12 GMT (UK)

You might like to lookup this link:

http://www.ashfordsfallen.com/ROSSITER%20E.pdf

For Edward Rossiter:You will pleased to know that soon there is to be a stone and his grave will not go unmarked.

At : www.ashfordsfallen.com you will  also find his brother.

Note the 1901 census information.

Edwards mother Ruth was a Sister to my GGDad William Baker.

They are shown as a family on the 1881 Census:
 Thomas ROSSITER   Head   M   Male   30   Bethersden, Kent, England   Hawker     
 Ruth ROSSITER   Wife   M   Female   28   Folkestone, Kent, England       
 Thomas ROSSITER   Son      Male   12   Dover, Kent, England       
 Naomi ROSSITER   Daur      Female   9   Ashford, Kent, England   (S)     
 Walter ROSSITER   Son      Male   7   Dover, Kent, England       
 Barbary ROSSITER   Daur      Female   5   Ashford, Kent, England   (S)     
 Stephen ROSSITER   Son      Male   2   Sittingbourne, Kent, England       
 Eliza BAKER   Sister In Law      Female   14   Ashford, Kent, England       


  Dwelling   Tent Thomas Rd
  Census Place Sittingbourne, Kent, England

 The Elvie shown on the 1901 census (her name was spelt wrongly) was a witness to my grandparents wedding:being a cousin to them both.
 
Elvie  married Barney Stevens:In this weeks Kentish Express for Ashford- there is a cutting from the 1907 paper of Barney. Family tree available if you contact me.

Rita
Title: Re: (Kent) 1861 / 1871 Census Lookup Requests Please For Thomas Rossiter
Post by: Russ01 on Saturday 15 December 18 20:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Rita, I think Elvie was my great grandma. My Grandad was Thomas, Elvie’s son. (Buddy)
I would be very interested in any information you have as I have very minimal on my fathers side as Grandad was brought up by his Aunt as was his brother Barney.
Thank you. Marie