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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: lorraine copeland on Sunday 18 November 07 21:31 GMT (UK)
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if any one wants a lookup please ask and i will be glad to check it out for you
i also have the census records for 1841, 1851, 1861,1871,1881,1891,1901
for circus and fairground folk
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Hi copeland,
the name Exton, would it be easy for you to look up,
Eilleen.
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Hi copeland,
I'd be grateful if you could look up Gibson - specifically in the West and East Yorkshire areas. May be associated with Randall Williams or Proctors.
Thanks,
Jill
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Hi,
I would be very grateful if you could look up James James born in 1875 in Kent. I do believe he was a "showman" in 1891 in Strood. Trying to find him and his family in the 1901 census. His wife was called Alvinea Eastwood Breeds. (her parents we not married) Thankyou Carol.
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Hi Eilleen
I have checked the victorian arena Volume 1-2 and 21st century Circus folk and there are no entrys for the name Exton
the books are circus performers and artisis so if they where behind the sceens helpers they will not be in there
Also checked the 1841, 1851, 1861,1871, 1881, 8191, 1901. Census records and the name Exton does not appear in there either
if they only did a short spell with the circus in between the census returns they would not appear on them
sorry i can not help with that name
Lorraine
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Thankyou very much for taking the time to look.
Eilleen.
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Hi Jill
I looked on the 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891,1901 census records and found these two entrys from the 1881 census
Market Square, Stony Stratford West, Buckingham 1881
James GIBSON U 26 M Old Stafford Oldbury Serv Property Man
Lodging House, 58 Tower Street, Southwark St George Martyr, Surrey 1881
John GIBSON W 81 M Languard Fort, Suffolk, Boarder General Laborer
also found theses entry in victorian arena Vol2
Gibson, Mr.
Clown noted with Bannister's troup of equestrians, at stamford for the Mid-Lent Fairs, in 1804 At Cook's Circus at York in 1824, a Mr Gibson plated the clarionette and Mr Gibson was with James Ryan's company in 1939 at Birmington (Curtesy of the late John Turner )
hope this helps sorry if they are the wrong poeple
Lorraine
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Hi Carol
I found this entry on the 1891 circus census
Caravan, Damar Lawn Road, Hawkchurch, Dorset, 1891
(Piece 1667, Folio 86, Page 7, Schedule 47)
John James, head, 42, travelling caravan, born Dorset
Brittain James, wife, 40, Dorset
Patem James, daughter, 17, Dorset
Thomas James, son, 15, Dorset
James James, son, 13, Dorset
Mary James, daughter, 11, Dorset
Priscilla James, daughter, 10, Dorset
Brittain James, daughter, 8, Dorset
Pennelope James, daughter, 6, Dorset
Also Found These entrys on the 1881 circus census
A Van, Great Northn Station, Stamford Baron St Martin, Northampton 1881 PG 44
PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3192 Folio 111 Page 33
William CLARK M 32 M Bollington, Cheshire, Head Travelling Comedian (Actor)
Eliza CLARK M 26 F London, Middlesex, Wife Travelling Actress & Wife
William CLARK 8 M Scotland Son Scholar
Ellen CLARK 4 F Scotland Daur Scholar
Elizabeth CLARK 1 F Sneinton, Nottingham, Daur
Sarah A. EASTWOOD U 15 F Huddersfield, York, Genl Servant
Carravan Field, Off Pow St, Workington, Cumberland 1881 PG 4
PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5177 Folio 41 Page 34
Thomas OSBORNE M 43 M London, Middlesex, Head, Travelling (Showman) With Shooting Gallery
Harriot OSBORNE M 28 F London, Middlesex, Wife
Thomas OSBORNE U 10 M Bristol, Gloucester, Son, Fathers Assistant (Trvel Showman)
William OSBORNE U 8 M Killcumpton, Cornwall, Son
Lotty OSBORNE U 6 F Newcastle Daur
Lavinia OSBORNE U 4 F Carlisle, Cumberland, Daur
Thomas JOHNSON M 28 M Preston, Lancashire, Head Auctioneer
Alice A. JOHNSON M 26 F Preston, Lancashire, Wife
Amealia JOHNSON U 3 F Preston, Lancashire, Daur
Sarah A. JOHNSON 3 m F Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, Daur
William EASTWOOD 16 M Oldham, Lancashire, Servant (Dom)
William SARGUISON 14 M Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, Servant (Dom)
Hope these are of some help to you
Lorraine
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not one of my names but they were with a travelling fair at one point,
Penfold & Orchard
can you see them anywhere
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HI,
Thankyou so much for the look-up. I am sure this must be the James's I am looking for as his father's name I know was John.
Regards Carol.
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Hi Toni
Iv found these entries on the 1891 circus censes
Caravan and tent, Bowden Down, Brentor, Devon 1891
(PRO Pc 1751 Folio 12 Pg 17 Sched 123)
Joseph Orchard, head, 28, licensed hawker, Devon, Culmstock
Susan Orchard, wife, 28, licensed hawer, Bristol
Sally Orchard, daugher, 8, Somerset, Withycombe
Billy Orchard, son, 5, Somerset, Brendon Hill
Abraham Orchard, son, 2, Cornwall, Roche
Also these on the 1881 cirus census
Caravans, Udalls Field, Lower Richmond, Putney, Surrey 1881
PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0662 Folio 59 Page 1+
Robert PENFOLD M 31 M Putney, Surrey, Head Travellers
Mary A. PENFOLD M 30 F Putney, Surrey, Wife Travellers
Louisa PENFOLD 3 F Hackney, Middlesex, (Daur) Travellers
Henry PENFOLD 1 M Battersea, Surrey, (Son) Travellers
Caravans, Udalls Field, Lower Richmond, Putney, Surrey 1881
PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0662 Folio 59 Page 1+
William PENFOLD M 32 M N K, England Head Traveller
Priscilla ((Presella)) PENFOLD M 31 F Putney, Surrey, Wife Traveller
Edward PENFOLD 6 M Battersea, Surrey, Son Traveller
James PENFOLD 1 M Wanstead, Essex, Son Traveller
Ellen PENFOLD 12 F Battersea, Surrey, Dau Traveller
Nancy PENFOLD 8 F Battersea, Surrey, Dau Traveller
hope they help
Lorraine
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many thanks Lorraine will pass it on :)
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Thanks for your time, Lorraine - none were mine, but I live in hope!
Jill
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Lorraine what is the difference between a Circus Census and a normal Census?
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circus folk are not on the normal census records as they where classed travellers so they had a seperate census done which includes fairground gypse hawkers and general travelleres
lorraine
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Lorraine
I didn't know that! How do you access these? Do you have any Mills families in your records - a William & family, with Smiths appear, as mat makers in one census I have
Vimira
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Hi Vimira
Iv looked on all the Traveling Census Records and there are a lot of smith entries
a few mills entrys
but the only mils and smith together are this one
Caravan & Tent, Birkbeck Estate, Near White Hall Rd, Woodford, Essex1881
PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1733 Folio 99 Page 44
Moses SMITH M 65 M Weathampstead, Hertford, Head Gipsy
Fanny SMITH M 64 F Leicester, Wife Gipsy
Fambridge SMITH U 17 F Loughton, Essex, Daur Gipsy
Ambrose MILLS U 19 M Hertford, Grandson Gipsy
John MILLS 9 M Loughton, Essex, Nephew Gipsy
Galouse MILLS 9 M Epping, Essex, Grandson Gipsy
if this does not mach what your looking for please can you provide more info on who you are looking for and i will see if they are there
lorraine
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Hi,Would it be possible for you to look up the Wilson family.
I have a Margaret Wilson widow of Thomas Wilson dying in the show ground Paisley Scotland in 1919,informant was daughter Jane Ann.
What I have for the Wilson,s say that they were Hawkers,Horse dealers and General Labourers.
A fair used to go to the showground Paisley in the early 20th century.
All the Best Flora
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Thanks Lorraine
Yes that is the census entry I have & I wondered if they were on others, as I can't find them anywhere else. It is the Mills I am looking for - any will do
Vimira
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HI Flora
the only entry i can find that comes near your info is this one from the 1881 census
Caravans, Mitcham Common, Mitcham Surrey1881
Thomas WILSON M 41 M Rawcliffe, York, Head Traveller (Hawker)
Jane WILSON M 41 F Oppingham, Rutland, Wife
Mary WILSON 11 F Lincoln, Niece
Lorraine
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circus folk are not on the normal census records as they where classed travellers so they had a seperate census done which includes fairground gypse hawkers and general travelleres
lorraine
Hi Lorraine,
I'm surprised that they appeared from their caravans to participate in the Census.
Some circus people hate meeting officials 8) Did most of them actually give their real names?
How does one go about finding travelling people and members of Circuses touring in Ireland? Would they also have a special census?
Christopher
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Hi Lorraine,
I'm surprised that they appeared from their caravans to participate in the Census.
Some circus people hate meeting officials 8) Did most of them actually give their real names?
they Gypsy folk still do have a problem with that! ;D
when we 'move them on' are we playing into their hands? (a little joke from Jimmy Carr!)
Toni
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Plenty of national censuses have been conducted in Ireland. For any genealogist hoping to find records from the 19th century though, the tale is one of frustration. The first four Irish censuses (1821-1851) were largely destroyed by fire in 1922; all that survive are fragments. As if that wasn't pain enough, the government destroyed the returns from 1861-1891. That means you're completely out of luck for 19th century censuses.
unless they where touring england, scotland, wales when the census was conducted
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Plenty of national censuses have been conducted in Ireland. For any genealogist hoping to find records from the 19th century though, the tale is one of frustration. The first four Irish censuses (1821-1851) were largely destroyed by fire in 1922; all that survive are fragments. As if that wasn't pain enough, the government destroyed the returns from 1861-1891. That means you're completely out of luck for 19th century censuses.
unless they where touring england, scotland, wales when the census was conducted
I live in Ireland and know all about the various methods of destroying census records. I find it astounding that some were destroyed on instructions of the Government and within the past few days our present Government has managed to lose a massive amount of records and now have the police searching various premises around the country in the hope of finding them.
You referred to Travellers Census Records. Were they separate Census for Travellers or were they extracted from the completed Census? I knew about the Census for Ships in Port but not the one for Travellers till you mentioned it.
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Hi Lorraine
Could you check your records for me for John Flexney, born Witney Oxfordshire 1840. He was a musician with a travelling Wild West Show in 1891 (in the Wiltshire area) but I've not found him in 1901 - I believe he may have died c. 1905
Steve
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Hi Christopher
Please check out this link below i think it explains most of what you ars asking hope it helps
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/census2.html
lorraine
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Hi Steve
im sorry iv looked through the census records and found no entry for
Could you check your records for me for John Flexney, born Witney Oxfordshire 1840. He was a musician with a travelling Wild West Show in 1891 (in the Wiltshire area) but I've not found him in 1901 - I believe he may have died c. 1905
Lorraine
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Thanks Lorraine
He's always been a problem tracking down - and I think his surname is spelt differently on every Census!
I guess he had settled down by 1901
Steve
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Hi Christopher
Please check out this link below i think it explains most of what you ars asking hope it helps
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/census2.html
lorraine
Thanks for the link Lorraine.
I'm certain many RootsChatters will find that's a helpful one.
Christopher
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I know it is very annoying as i have some irish decendents i need to research but looks like i and many other ppl and not going to have much luck b4 1901
iv been doing me family tree for 6 years now and got as far as 1796 in britain
and im in the middle of tranfereing the info onto a dvd so the rest of my family and my children can view it on a pc quit easily and understand it and link up the bloodline
lorraine
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circus folk are not on the normal census records as they where classed travellers so they had a seperate census done which includes fairground gypse hawkers and general travelleres
lorraine
Hi, Sorry to tell you this but I have spent the past ten years reseaching my family and there is not a seperate census for anyone. One Census done every ten years but what is different is that you will find them living in Tent/Caravans/in Pub Yards/and Lanes. The address is shown next to the nearest house. A good example of this is my Lee family from Kent: 1861 Census living under Tent. Just keep looking but most of the research has been done by Pauline from Canada and there are many links onto her site. Maybe you have found this index of hers - as it done for Circus/Fair/Gypsy folk and was on the Galloper Site for many years - also there was a site called Passing Through (I gave both sites each others details and they linked up) which listed Gypsy census info.
I am at the moment trying to put all my information into a readable search - do contact me if you any of the interests below could cross over with your research.
Rita
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Hi Rita
the circus ppl im looking for are the bakers, fossets,paulos,are just a few
and the main ones
lorraine
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Hello Copeland.
My aunt (who was known by a number of names) worked with the Wallendas in 1934 and 1935 whilst they were with Bertram Mills circus. She was known as Winifred Innes Smith,Judith Innes Lloyd, Judith Innes Gordon and Judith Lloyd. She married Phillip Kries on 21st October, 1934, in Oxford whilst the circus was in Oxford, and they were photographed riding one of the elephants in the circus parade. Phillip Kreis was one of the Wallenda artistes.
Have you got any further information re the Wallendas of that time? She and Phillip travelled to Germany and joined Circus Gleich, but she and Phillip divorced shortly afterwards. I would be grateful for anything that you could tell me.
Thank you.
macg
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i wonder if you could look up the name busch and millar for me.i think they must be circus or fairground folk.a few details i have are jacob smith married matlida capel,her sister daisy married john cooper,matlida capel also married tommy scott,henry millar married b.1896 married rebbeca smithjohn millar married a turner,the millars married quite alot into smiths and coopers.any of the above names would be useful and anyinfo you have .many many thanks cathayb
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Hello Copeland
I would be grateful if you could tell me anything about Leonard and Annie Mitchell - he was a circus musician in Lincolnshire in 1901, and she was a 'circus performer.' I d not think they were from traveller families. I see that Sanger's circus was in Grantham at the time.
Many thanks
Harlem's wife
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hi,i am desperately seeking early info on the wilson and rosaire families.i beleive the first rosaire came from france with a jacques rosaire.the wilsons are some cencues listed as travellers/hawkers and othertimes fair/circus folk.i would particularily like info on a john rosaire/roser/rose whose family mum dad and siblings left him aged 12 behind in england when they went to western australia aboard the simon taylor in 1842.in 1841 they can be foung in east grinstead on the common there.john was born in mereworth kent.thanks for any help you can give cathayb
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Hi Cathayb
There is another thread on here about the ROSER family from Kent/Sussex see
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,296659.0.html
Casalguidi :)
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thanks a million.i have been searching for days.good to know other people are on the same search.thanks for letting me know.i am off to bed now but hope to post some results before long.what is the book mentioned on the roser thread.does anyone know.love cathayb
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I have a copy of the victorian arena vol 1, vol 2.
and 20th century Circus people 1901 - 1950
if any one wants a lookup please ask and i wil check it out for you
i also have the census records for 1841, 1851, 1861,1871,1881,1891,1901
for circus and fairground folk
Could you please do a do look up for me for a Henry James Coward known as:
Enrico - Ariel Demon
and his wife Jennifer/Ginny
Many thanks
Chris
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HI Copeland
I am researching the families "LOCK" & "BOSWELL" who were Travelling Gypsies I can find them on the census for Wales 1901 but cannot find them anywhere else, any information on them would be very much appreciated.
Regards
Pughy
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you will find locks in most cencuses and definately in nailsea/bristol/glosoucester.boswells is a very common traveller name aswell and you should find some in most cencuses.look on romanygenes blank page web site.alot on there.alot of locks and boswells also went to america.there is a thread on here by don lock for american gypsies aswell and on romanygenes 2 hope that helps.try different spellings aswell like adding an e on lock.e.g.locke.regards cathayb
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:( Hi do you srill have the census records etc. would you be able to look up Arthur john Warman. All I know is he ran away with Lord George Sangers Circus. Many thanks Sarah
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:'( Hi could someone please help me i'm trying to find my great grandmother Gracy Paulo (Pauls) I've got a record of her on 1881 census living with her parents Caroline and Henry Pauls and her siblings Henry Pauls Frank Pauls and Caroline Pauls they were circus people Gracy was born in abt 1876in Bristol Somerset but cant find record of her birth. In 1881 they were living in a caravan in Sandy Pit Lane Aldershot Hampshire. I have found out on 1891 census that Caroline Pauls (mother ) married again to a Horatio Lewis living with daughter Caroline and son Frank Paulo and 2 of Horatio's daughters at St Philip in Barton Regis but i can't find the father Henry, Gracy, or son Henry. No record on any census for any of them anywhere till 1901 census when she was married to my grandad William Joseph Peach. Cant find any marriage details of any or births am really stuck so would be grateful for any help thankyou
Lisa
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You should post this query over at www.fun-fairs.co.uk/forum/index.ph (go to the CIRCUS forum) as I'm sure Tom Sandow or David Konyot would set you straight on the Paulos and answer some of your questions ? Good Luck :)
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thankyou xx i've just had a look i cant find the circus forum help please xx
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Sorry, it looks like I may have given you a bad link, go to the website
www.fun-fairs.co.uk/forum/ and then scroll down to "off topic - circus" or you can try to cut and paste this link http://www.fun-fairs.co.uk/forum/index.php?s=5928ec69d65497df4e74a003633e5c35&showforum=10
if you are still having trouble then pm me the post/question you want putting up and I'll post it for you?
very best
Jim
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okey dokey thankyou very much for your help
lisa
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Hi
I'm desperately trying to find out more information about my Gran's mum. Her name was Annie Lizzie Peers but on my nan's birth certificate she is named as Amy Peers. My nan was told that she ran away with the circus and my nan is under the impression it was Bertram's circus. She also was told that she got together with (not sure if she married) someone called Taylor (not sure of the spelling). It would have been after 1931 as my nan was born then.
How do I find out this information? I've been trying for ages to get information about her. She was born in Doncaster, in 1906. I'm not sure if she emigrated or anything but I'm trying to trace her through the circus/Bertram's link. She was spotted by my nan once in Torquay when the circus was there.
Any suggestions would be extremely helpful!!
A very desperate Gemma!!
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I am looking for a Charles Henry Smith who was a Circus Manager or Agent for a Travelling Circus certainly in the period 1899 to 1905. His home was in the Birmingam area but travelled with the Circus. I am trying to find the name of the Circus which could have been "Ginellis" or similar. He was not at his base in the 1901 census so I guess he must have been on the road. Any suggestions as to lists of travelling circus at that time or travelling census information for circus?
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I am trying to find the name of the Circus which could have been "Ginellis" or similar.
How about Ginnett's Circus? They were around in 1901 and still are .......... www.circusginnett.com/history.htm
There is a 'Henry Smith' with George Sanger and some of the Austins, see Circus Caravans, Cricket Field, Grantham, Lincolnshire, 1901 [http://members.shaw.ca/pauline777/1901.html]
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Hi Copeland,
Please would you be kind enough to look up the name Guyett or Guyatt in connection with the Hounslow Heath Fairground around 1930-50?
The Guyatt's originally came from the Charlton, Andover, Hampshire area, so I would be grateful if you find anything on them. After moving to Hounslow, Middlesex in the 1850's they changed their name to Guyett.
Many thanks,
Sue
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please have you got any info on a mary sophia panton born abt. 1880 thankyou
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Hi
Looking for Amy Keogh and her sister Mary (or Olive). Around 1901 were thought to be in the Birmingham area working as acrobats.
Both were in their early 20's. Mary (or Olive) was born in Southport.
Can any one help please?
Regards
Olly
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I was wondering if anyone has any information on a James Durant, Andrew Durant, Mary Ann wife of James.
My grandad James Washington Durant was in the Circus, his dad Andrew I've found in the 1871 census of Penzance stating Gymnast aged 19 born Manchester Lancashire, but no record of his father James or his mother Mary ann, both appear to have died very early in Andrews life, both gone by 1872, very frustrating not being able to find them anywhere, can anyone help with anything at all, would be most grateful for your time. Many thanks. ???
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John Turner's book "Victorian Arena" lists Billy Durant as a 'clown noted with Myer's circus in 1880s'
He also has an entry for James Durant ........ "clown and acrobat. Born 1872. appeared in all the big circuses, since 1886, travelling in Britain, Europe and America. Leader of the famous 'Flying Aeronaughts Troupe'.
Died 1 Nov 1926 aged 54yrs. Durant Brothers, nondescript contortionists and comedians were with Stephenson's Circus in 1929 and may have been his sons"
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Many thanks for the prompt reply, I actually gave John turner this information for his book, but I didn't realise that there was a Billy Durant, so it seems that I have to do a bit more digging.
Happy easter to you and yours. :)
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Hello Copeland,
Could you please help me find ancestors, David Hutchinson,wife Ann and daughter, Harriet, in 1841 census? David was allegedly appearing with W F Wallett but I can't find him.
Also David Taylor(Tayleure), wife Ada and son David in 1901 census.
Thanks Sweet.
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For many years I have been looking for a family legend.Two brothers who were acrobats in the circus, I presume around Yorkshire or Nottingham I don't know if their surnames were Simpson or Johnson. I have looked in all the ordinary census & didn't know there was a special one for circus folk.Any help appreciated. dancing lady in Australia
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I'm looking for any information regarding the circus Atrato & Allens. I have found information in the 1881 travellers census but that's all, any information or advice would be appreciated
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Hi there Copeland
Oral family history states my grandfather, George BEARD was a trapeeze artist in the circus. He was born in Swansea in 1885 and although I located him on the 1891 census as a child, no success with 1901 or 1911 census returns.
I do know he was in Swansea in 1916 as have a marriage certificate for him - this first wife died in 1926 and George married again in 1930 - that marraige certificate palces him in Swansea again. I also know he enlisted in 1918, in Cardiff with home address given in Swansea where his first wife Elizabeth lived. His 1916 marriage certificate indicates he is now employed as a dock worker so I can only guess that the period invovled for his circus life, would be before 1916 when he married.
I'd be grateful for any leads you might be able to uncover based on such very sketchy details.
Cheers....
Lynda NZ
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if any one wants a lookup please ask and i will be glad to check it out for you
i also have the census records for 1841, 1851, 1861,1871,1881,1891,1901
for circus and fairground folk
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I am looking for any further information on a Mr Otho Twigg. Otho held various positions (mainly equestrienne) within many circus’s (Sanger’s, Henglers, Ohmy’s, Forepaughs, Lockharts, Barnum &Baileys) he eventually became the Ringmaster at the London Hippodrome when it opened in 1900, in 1910 he became the ringmaster at the New York Hippodrome.
Otho married a Margaret Harriet Davies in Cardiff in 1886. Margaret was an Equestrienne bareback rider, using the stage names of ‘Maggie Sivado’ (Davis spelt backwards), Marguerite Doris and Maggie Twigg. Otho and Margaret had 2 daughters that I am aware of, but sadly both died in infancy.
Margaret’s younger sister Pauline also worked in the circus as a Equestrienne too and married a John McCambridge (My family's connection) – Pauline’s stage name also varied over the years but these are two that I know off – ‘Polly Sivado’ (once again Davis spelt backwards) and ‘Madame Olva’. John and Pauline McCambridge had 4 children that I know off – John b 1888, Margaret b 1889, Otho b1897 and Pauline b 1904.
I believe the two sisters and their respective families worked with each other throughout their lives all over Europe and The USA. I have found several references to all of these people in ‘THE STAGE ARCHIVES’ and ‘THE ERA ARCHIVES’ – but would truly love to find a picture of any of them!
Otho seemed to have a very prominent role and was great friends with Marceline Orbes, surely there must be a photograph somewhere!! Any help would be truly amazing - I’m based in England but I know they worked a lot in the USA!
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Please could you look up for me and see if there's any record of a David Sharpe or Sharp who was a blacksmith for the travelling circus?
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Hi - I am researching my family line of William Smith born St Pancras 1849 or 1847 depending on which record you look at - William performed under the name Atrato and was a trapeze artist - I am interested to know any thing about his early years as I cant find him on the census before 1881 - I know that he performed in partnership with Henry Gerretti and then with Thomas Culleen from some info on the Era site
but I dont know if he started out with anyone else or where he was before 1881
pls could you look him up
thanks debra
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Hello all
Im doing a bit of research for my mum regarding her family tree just wondering if anyone has come across a Alfred Gregory and his wife Elizabeth Johnston both worked at the circus and fairs and also i beleave in the music halls maybe as a double act tho we do know Alfred by trade was a clown,i have the following birth dates but of yet no marriage date
Alfred Gregory born 1856 London,died 1935 middlesex
wife Elizabeth Johnston born london 1859 died london 1900
Daughter Edith Agnes Gregory born 1859 london died 1980 my mums great Grandmother,just curious if they were ever mentioned in any censuses regarding circuses or fairs i have been told there was a Traveller family named Gregory at that time in the London area so not sure if Alfreds related to these in any way,any help would be much appreciated,many thanks Daisy
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Hi
It is a family story that Thomas O'Brien/O'Brian Weston from Birmingham, UK was a circus clown circa 1850? I'm desperatly trying to find out if this is true or not and any help would be amazing
l
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if any one wants a lookup please ask and i will be glad to check it out for you
i also have the census records for 1841, 1851, 1861,1871,1881,1891,1901
for circus and fairground folk
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Hi,
Could you please look up a Ruth Stanley who may have been in the circus in the early 1900S. Probably closer to 1920's plus 10 years or minus 5 years. Originally she was from Missouri. The circus that she was in, traveled to Missouri. She would leave tickets for family members when in town. It also seems that she may have been married while in the circus so not sure if the last name is correct. Is that enough information?
Thanks!
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Hi copeland
Can you please do a look-up on "Jim Morton's Wonder Circus" performing from the 1920's onwards. They were Blackpool based and consisted of eight ponies, one elephant and twelve dogs. The remnants of the circus performed as a dog troupe in an old marionette theatre in the Marine Gardens in Fleetwood in the 1960's. They seem to have appeared in provincial theatres though of course may have tented as well with an elephant!!
Thanks
Peridot :)
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Just saw a posting re Stephenson's travelling troupe/circus and thought it worthwhile posting my interest.
I'm looking for so many travelling show people. 10 yrs ago I had no idea that I related to travelling show people on both sides of my family, explains a lot though! .
I've just come across Lydia Julia Pool approx 1870 to 1898
Lydia was a vocalist born Birmingham, married Albert Robert Peace born 1871 a Contortionist.
I have Lydia's family background but can't find anything at all for Albert Pearce but...
On the Irish 1911 Kilkenny census I found a Kathleen Pearce travelling with Lydia sister Annie Louise Pool born Birmingham (1871 death 1914 Birmingham)
Annie partnered John Linehan (born Cork Ireland 1971) John was a concert promoter and Travelling Showman but I know nothing of his parentage etc.
On the census is:
John Linehan aged 40 yrs Showman
Annie Linehan aged 37 yrs wife born England
Mina Linehan aged 14 yrs daughter born England
Annie Lydia Linehan aged 5 yrs daughter born Dublin
Clarence Rosini (Employ)aged 24 born England Showman
Frank Power aged 15 yrs (Employ) born Co Waterford
Kathleen Pearce aged 27 yrs (Employ) born England.
I have never been able to find any further details of Annie and John's daughter Minna and Annie Lydia.
I'm assuming Kathleen Pearce was the sister to Robert Albert Pearce.
Clarence Rosini came from a theatrical family, his mother was Hannah Hughes Chadwick and she founded the Stephenson's after her husband died, returning from Ireland, Clarence toured with them, I believe the performed at Sandringham.
To go Back to John and Annie Linehan, Annie had an older daughter Bessie Minna she married my gt grandfather Thomas Brennan in Co Cavan Ireland 1907. Thomas was also a travelling showman and concert promoter, he was The Connaught Bazaar and Connaught Concert Company.
Can anyone give me further info on any of the above? ???
Regards Jackie.
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Hi Copeland,
Could you please look up records for Morrison.
Thanks
Sincerely,
Deana
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hi copeland could you please look up the illingworth family and the kelly family who married into the illingworths many thanks ,david
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For information, Photo's of Hannah amd some of her children are on family trees on Ancesrty
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As part of my research into Wiliam Smith Atrato Circus Equestrian, Gymnast &
Circus owner. I came across a photo of Cal McCord cowboy is any one
researching Cal McCord that has any information about his early life and career.
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I am looking for John Miller who married Harriet Agnes Taylor (parents David Burrows Taylor/Tayleur and Ada Alexandra Knight of Hutchinson and Tayleure circus etc.) in 1915 Would you mind checking for me before and after that time until the end of 1918. Thanks.
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Hi there,
I am looking for any information on F.W Oscar Vetter, his wife Rosa and their children. I know that the family were circus artistes and later Music Hall Artistes. F. W Oscar Vetter was born in Berlin, Germany in about 1851. I am not sure when he joined the circus but I know that he married a lady called Rosa Steinbecker and had, according to the 1911 census, seven children. I only know of three children. F W was known as Oscar and he has an entry in Turners' Circus guide. I know that in 1911. Oscar was living in London and was about 59 years old. I have found a death certificate for Oscar in German records for 1918 although not the cause of death, but I cannot find any records for Rosa's death in German or in U.K records. Did they emigrate to another country perhaps? Are there any other circus trapeze artists that I may be related to. I would also like to try and find out the name of their circus act and possibly which circus they belonged to. If anyone has information about this family, I would love to hear from you.
Thank you. KarolynM.
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Please could you look up the travelling circus census for Thomas henry Eugene M Sylvester born in 1964 (possibly listed also as 1963 depending on the cencus). He was also known as Thomas Montgomery Sylvester. He owned Sylvesters Circus (Sylvesters 2 ring circus, Sylvesters modern circus) and also a company called Cinema Circus and Varieties Ltd. He also went on to be the creator of Bradford holidays at home.
In the family there were rumours he was either sold or adopted to a circus when he was young but no one know who his parents were, and in 1877 at around 13 he was spoken about in a newspaper clipping regarding Atrato and Allen's grand circus and stated as the apprentice of William Smith Atrato. Thomas was an equine performer here. As the years went on he became a proprietor.
In one of his circus programmes I have he has Claude Onny and John fossett, Fred Ginnett, Potters worlds greatest flying gymnasts however there is not a lot on him bar what family members can tell me.
I would be really interested in hearing anything anyone knows about him.
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Hi. I don't know if you ever got any more information about THES, but I have researched him a little as he married the sister of my 2xggf. I have found him on the censuses up to 1901: 71 in Sneinton, 81 in South Shields, 91 in Wigan, 01 in Southport. I have the details if you still need them and I am working with a descendant of THES at the moment to try to fill in some gaps. Let me know if you need the details.