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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Kincardineshire => Topic started by: Rowana on Thursday 22 November 07 15:22 GMT (UK)
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I'm trying to track down some records of Munro Gove. He was born some time around 1896ish, possibly in Stonehaven or Kinneff. His Mother was Bridget Watt, and his father was also Munro Gove. I believe he served with the Gordon Highlanders in WW1 and worked on the railway afterwards. His wife was an Elizabeth Spark, and they had no children.
Any info much appreciated.
Jim
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Hi Jim,
The index of ScotlandsPeople shows a Munro Gove born in 1896 in Dunnottar parish, Kincardineshire.
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Hi Jim,
The index of ScotlandsPeople shows a Munro Gove born in 1896 in Dunnottar parish, Kincardineshire.
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His parents were married at Dunnottar in 1897.
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Hi Isles,
That's the guy! I don't suppose there is a date in 1896 when he was born, is there?
I know his parents were married on 10th December 1897 in Dunnottar.
Is there a website that might give me his military records?
Thanks very much.
Jim
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There's a medal card for Munro Gove on the National Archives website. I'd say he was your man. :)
Here's a link (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=2552654&queryType=1&resultcount=1)
hume24
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Thanks Hume,
That's the man right enough.
Cheers
Jim
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Hi everyone, I have just posted somewhere else but i am not sure how these chats work so sorry for any repetition. Here is the info in case anyone can help me.
I am researching my husband's family tree. he is from Montrose. His maternal grandparents are David Gove b 30 Jan 1904 and Isabella Wallace Christieson b Upper Dysart 1905.
David Gove's parents: Alexander Gove 1866 and Jane Duguid 1867.
Isabella's - David christieson (son of James C and Helen Wilson) and Rachel wallace (james w and Violet stephen).
Can anyone help me follow up the christieson/wilson and Gove/Duguid lines?
Thanks so much, Alisan
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Hallo Alisan. Are you trying to research the ancestry of the James Christieson/Helen Wilson and the Alexander Gove/Jane Duguid lines ? If so, the 1841 Census may be relevant:
Pitnamoon, Fordoun.Charles Christison 20 Ag Lab born outwith Kincs.,
James Christison 3
William Christison 6 months
Isobel Paterson 20 Ag Lab
Spurnie Hillock, Laurencekirk
George Wison 30 Ag Lab born Kincardineshire.
Helen Wilson 30 "
James 7 "
Helen 6 "
Margaret 4 "
Mary 3 "
Elizabeth 1 "
John 1 month "
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Thanks so much for that. It *looks* hopeful.
However, as I have no place of birth for them nor guarantee that my dates are right or wrong, I guess I cannot be sure it is my James.
I have Helen wilson b1835 and James Christieson b1830 on my tree. Tho this could be a guestimate by my mother-in-law.
The 1841 census puts Helen at the right year and her parents tally with other parents I saw today.
But the census James is shown to be 3 yrs younger than Helen and 8 yrs younger than my james.
I have as tentative parents for James a James Christison who married Marjery Bruce.
But this is definitely helpful and I shall look into this census info in more depth.
PS as a matter of interest, do you think young Isobel is a de facto wife?
thanks, alisan
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Here's what I found using the IGI.
George Wilson m. 1832 Fordoun, Helen Bain, and had the following family:
James 1833 Fordoun
Helen 1835 Fordoun
Margaret 1836 Fordoun
Elizabeth 1839 Laurencekirk
John 1841 Laurencekirk
David 1842 Laurencekirk
Janet 1848 Laurencekirk
George 1851 Laurencekirk
Helen married James Christison at Laurencekirk in 1860, and they had:
James 1861 Lunan
John 1863 Lunan
David 1865 Lunan
Stewart 1867 Montrose
Andrew Bruce 1869 Lunan
A David Christison married Isobel Christie in 1799, Lochlee, Angus. Their family all born at Lochlee:
John 1801
Lilly 1804
James 1806
Charles 1806 (died young?)
May 1808
David 1810
Charles 1812
Sarah 1815
Charles Christison (1812) married Isobel Paterson at Lochlee, Angus in 1838. Banns 1837 Lumphanan, Aberdeen. They went on to have:
James 1838 Lumphanan
John 1843 Benholm
Charles 1858 Marykirk
Hugh 1859 Brechin
James Christison married Marjory Bruce at Lunan in 1826 (Banns Montrose): Their family all born Montrose:
James 1829
Catherine 1834
Mary Ann 1836
Elizabeth 1839
John1842
David 1844
William 1847
Stewart 1849
It looks in the 1841 Census as if Isobel Paterson was entered under her maiden name.
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Wow! talk about bedtime reading. this will keep me going :-)
thanks for your labour of love. willlet you know how it pans out.
you are an expert - a generous one, too!
al
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I am not sure these are mine:
A David Christison married Isobel Christie in 1799, Lochlee, Angus.
Charles Christison (1812) married Isobel Paterson at Lochlee, Angus in 1838.
But the others are.
I had Helen Bain as just Helen Ba* as the marriage certificate does not make it clear what the name is.
so that is an added bonus.
many thanks.
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Hello,
According to the IGI - Alexander Gove - born 13 July 1866, Glenbervie, Kincardine, Scotland parents - Alexander Gove and Jane Clark. Also born to a couple with this name - searched 1850 - 1890.
Robert James Gove b. 08 Mar 1860 Glenbervie
Maria Gove b. 17 Feb 1864, Arbuthnott, Kincardine
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Please note that at the same time there are births for an Alexander Gove and a Grace Allan in Glenbervie as well....
George Gove b. 07 Dec 1857
Alexander Gove b. 22 Jan 1859
Isabella Mitchell Gove 29 Aug 1861
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Marriages - both Inverbervie
Alexr. Gove m. Grace Allan 06 JUne 1856
Alexander Gove m. Jane Clark 03 Dec 1859
Regards, Steve :O)
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Hi
Getting back to the Munro Gove line. I have a Munro Gove in my tree somewhere. However I lost all my online stuff when my last computer crashed, but I still have all my paper notes. However I am actually going up to Gourdon at the weekend and I know where the family grave stone is. If you wish I can take some pics and email them to you?
Shona
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I already have photos of some of the gravestones of the Gove line in Bervie cemetery, but thanks very much for the offer.
I would be very interested in your Gove line however, and if you ever get it back into your computer, i'd be most grateful for a copy.
The Munro Gove that I was enquiring about here was my Mum's eldest brother. Their father was also Munro Gove, his wife was Bridget Watt.
This Munro Gove's father was an Andrew Gove, his wife was Martha Begg.
Does any of this tie in with your Goves?
My middle name is also Munro.
Jim
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There are three headstones in the Old Kirkyard of Bervie (Inverbervie) relating to Gove families:-
Erected by May Gove in loving memory of her husband John Gove, fish curer, Gourdon b. 19 Dec 1818 d. 4 Dec 1891 aged 73; said May Mowatt or Gove d. 20 Dec 1908 aged 90.
1862. Erected in memory of Andrew Gove white fisher in Gourdon d. 23 Jan 1845 aged 69; his wife Christina Lounie d. 21 Feb 1860 aged 84; Andrew their son d. 1818 aged 18; also Mary their daughter d. 22 Oct 1856 aged 45 and three of them d. infancy; also their son David d. 6 May 1885 aged 70; Jane Mowatt wife of the said David Gove d. 13 May 1916 aged 76.
Erected by Andrew Gove in memory of his son James d. 18 Feb 1871 aged 4; his wife Martha Begg d. 2 Oct 1875 aged 35; his mother Mary Ann Duff Strachan d. 15 Feb1888 aged 73; his daughter Mary Ann Gove d. 24 Feb 1890 aged 26; his son Andrew Gove d. 2 Feb 1899 aged 28; his father Andrew Gove d. 24 Jan 1902 aged 89; the above Andrew Gove d. 19 Jun 1931 aged 90.
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The third one is my G-Grandfather, and here he is -
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Hi
Yes this ties in with my Goves. If you PM me your email addy I will send you what I have.
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PM sent
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Hi I am related to Bridget Watt who married Munro gove
I would love an photos of headsotes relating to Gove Wilson Beattie etc
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I stumbled across this thread while researching my family tree (although I hasten to add I'm not related to either Munro Gove or Elizabeth Spark).
I don't really have much to add by way of information about Munro Gove other than I met him a few times when I was a nipper. Liz Spark was a bridesmaid at my grandparents wedding and she and Roy were lifelong friends of my grand-parents. Munro was known to me as Roy. I recall visiting them on a number of occasions at their house in Fordoun which was right next to the railway line. I was fascinated by their cuckoo clock. Neither here nor there to us adults now but I was a youngster back in the 60's and being in such close proximity to a railway track and seeing a cuckoo clock were a bit of a novelty back then.
Small world.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
I remember the cuckoo clock as well, and like you, I was fascinated with it as a young lad.
Who were your grandparents? I probably won't know them, but I possibly heard the names mentioned at some time.
Small world indeed!
Jim
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Hi Jim.
My grandfather was Thomas Callander and my grandmother was Jessie Stott. They were married at the Crown Hotel in Laurencekirk in July 1928. I said in my post that Liz Spark was bridesmaid but I think it would probably be more accurate to say she was a witness.
My grandparents came down to Glasgow a year or so after they were married and certainly by 1930 as my dad was born in 1930 in Glasgow. They moved back to Laurencekirk in the late 60's and we'd regularly visit Roy and Liz when we were up at Laurencekirk.
The Callander's had the smiddy at Laurencekirk for much of the 20th century although I was a bit disappointed to see the smiddy had been demolished last time I was up.
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Hi Dr, Dave,
I am very curious, I have a connection to Munro GOVE thru Bridget WATT
but I have an intrest in STOTT's as well. My aunt Charlotte GLASS was married to Arthur STOTT
he had a sister Jessie STOTT born 1887 Dundee area. her father was David STOTT married to
Ann COLLIER December 1882 at Balcarhie Po Arbirlot Co Forfar. David STOTT's father Alexander was born around 1837 in Garvock married to Margaret MILLAR. Is there a connection?
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Sorry to be a disappointment, Angus. My grandmother Jessie Stott was born in 1898 on a farm near to Montrose. Perhaps there may be a link somewhere down the line. The Stotts have given me a bit of a headache with my research as there are so many of them and one or two have been problematic. But that's the way of things with family history research (as we all know).
Dave