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Does anyone have any ideas as to where the surname Heap originally comes from? I've always thought that it originated in Lancashire, but have never been sure, and haven't really known where to start researching. As a former Heap, I've always been fascinated in finding out where my line may have started. Are there any other fellow Heaps out there???
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Hi Elfen,
According to National Trust Names - http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/ - the Heap name seems to originate in Lancashire. There were more of them there in 1881 than anywhere else in England.
I have a few of them in my tree who came from Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancs.
Arkay
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Hi Arkay,
Thank you very much for your reply. That gives me a starting point. I haven't traced my Heap relatives back to Lancashire just yet, maybe further down the line!
Elfen.
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Hi there
I have Heapy ancestors,although the name does seem to be interchangeable with Heap/Heape/and Heaps.
The farthest I have gone back is 1792 to Quarnford Staffs.
My gt grandma Emily Heapy was born in Macclesfield in 1867.
All the best
Carol
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Hi Carol,
My search started in the West Midlands and Staffordshire, and the further back I go leads to Leicestershire from the early 19th century backwards. Have you any ancestors from Leicestershire?
Elfen.
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All my Heaps come from Yorkshire - all the books I've read, except one, relate it to Heap Bridge a place in Lancashire however although I was 'physically' born in Lancashire I lived in Cheshire and the Heap relations were very Yorkshire orientated so I have never really liked that description. The derivation I favour I read in a book at the Society of Genealogists (I live in the South of England now) that it related to the Hips of the Wild Dog-Rose tree(Rose-Hips) and they probably lived close to one - even the name of Heap Bridge could have been the Bridge next to the Rose-Hip Tree.
My maiden is also Heap, Elfen.
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Hi Mumsie,
I haven't found any Yorkshire or Lancashire Heaps as yet. Thank you for letting me know the derivation of Heap that you found. I like the sound of that origin too. I'm hoping that I can trace the Heap line back to where it should have originated, but that's a long way off yet!
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I have Heap in my son's tree, his g.g grandmother. I have gone back a couple of generations, all from Leicestershire so far, although a bit of illegitimacy is throwing me at the minute.
Let me know if you would like to know more.
Tx
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Hi Sparkle,
I have traced some to Leicestershire also. They are quite a few generations back though. Can you tell me when abouts your son's Heap ancestors were living in Leicestershire?
Elfen.
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Mine few are in Yorkshire. Heap Bridge is near to where I live and i have never associated them. But there is a bridge there. There was a stone quarry and my husband suggests its the waste making the heaps.
Maxine
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In Ashton u Lyne there used to be a machine tool manufacturer, Josh. Heap & Co, i last knew them c. 1960s.
Bodger
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I lived in the village of Mottram-in-Longdendale and there were 2 Miss Heaps lived quite close to us - obviously as a curious child I asked if they were related and was told 'They are the Cheshire Heaps, we are the Yorkshire Heaps' - so I suspect that there could be Heaps originating in most Northern counties. (very few on Roots Map south of Birmingham)
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hi
i have heaps in my family 1818 from london
poppymilly
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The name Heap emanates from a Robert de Heap, who founded a settlement now known as Heap, a village near to Heywood , Lancashire. Robert de Hep was a witness to a number of Charters mainly those of Roger de Montbegon, the Lord of Hornby Castle near Lancaster (1210). Montbegon was one of the 25 Surety Barons to the Magna Carta. The only other early reference I have found is that it was the original name for the village of Shap and Shap Abbey, Cumbria. "Hep" or "Hep Hep Hep" was the battle cry of the Crusaders ( "HEIROSOLYMA EST PERDITH"). Members of Robert de Hep's "clan" settled around Rochdale, Oldham, Stalybridge, Mottram and Prestbury. He was murdered in 1246 by a Peter Carrite. It is known that he owned land at Failsworth ( between Oldham and Manchester) which he sold to Robert Grelley the Baron of Manchester and at Leire in Leicestershire. Charles Heape of Rochdale commissioned a private book on the History of the Heape name. Copies can be found in the libraries of Oldham, Rochdale and the Library of Lancaster University.
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My Heap family comes from the Burnley, Lancashire area (My surname is Heap). I have heard Don's origin of the Heap name before and believe it is the most likely answer. I understood that a Baron de Hep came over from Normandy with William the Conqueror.
I used to live near Heap Bridge, which was originally part of an area called Heap between Bury and Heywood in Lancashire, but could find no evidence that the Heap name emanated from there.
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Hello there..there is a book on e-bay at the minute that might help anyone called Heape.
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Does anyone have any ideas as to where the surname Heap originally comes from? I've always thought that it originated in Lancashire, but have never been sure, and haven't really known where to start researching. As a former Heap, I've always been fascinated in finding out where my line may have started. Are there any other fellow Heaps out there???
The name Heap emanates from a Robert de Heap, who founded a settlement now known as Heap, a village near to Heywood , Lancashire. Robert de Hep was a witness to a number of Charters mainly those of Roger de Montbegon, the Lord of Hornby Castle near Lancaster (1210). Montbegon was one of the 25 Surety Barons to the Magna Carta. The only other early reference I have found is that it was the original name for the village of Shap and Shap Abbey, Cumbria. "Hep" or "Hep Hep Hep" was the battle cry of the Crusaders ( "HEIROSOLYMA EST PERDITH"). Members of Robert de Hep's "clan" settled around Rochdale, Oldham, Stalybridge, Mottram and Prestbury. He was murdered in 1246 by a Peter Carrite. It is known that he owned land at Failsworth ( between Oldham and Manchester) which he sold to Robert Grelley the Baron of Manchester and at Leire in Leicestershire. Charles Heape of Rochdale commissioned a private book on the History of the Heape name. Copies can be found in the libraries of Oldham, Rochdale and the Library of Lancaster University.
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The name Heap emanates from a Robert de Heap, who founded a settlement now known as Heap, a village near to Heywood , Lancashire. Robert de Hep was a witness to a number of Charters mainly those of Roger de Montbegon, the Lord of Hornby Castle near Lancaster (1210). Montbegon was one of the 25 Surety Barons to the Magna Carta. The only other early reference I have found is that it was the original name for the village of Shap and Shap Abbey, Cumbria. "Hep" or "Hep Hep Hep" was the battle cry of the Crusaders ( "HEIROSOLYMA EST PERDITH"). Members of Robert de Hep's "clan" settled around Rochdale, Oldham, Stalybridge, Mottram and Prestbury. He was murdered in 1246 by a Peter Carrite. It is known that he owned land at Failsworth ( between Oldham and Manchester) which he sold to Robert Grelley the Baron of Manchester and at Leire in Leicestershire. Charles Heape of Rochdale commissioned a private book on the History of the Heape name. Copies can be found in the libraries of Oldham, Rochdale and the Library of Lancaster University.
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with regard to the name heap,i have recently been given a family book/tree that was commisioned by charles heape and richard heape in the late 1800's at a cost of 1,780.00 pounds,the research in this is extensive,all family trees in relation to heap going as far back as robert de hep born in1170,according to this book he married cicillia de bury,anyway if there are any questions or family members back in the day feel free to contact me and i will do my best to answer,like i wrote earlier this book covers all branches and there relations,to the de bury,de radcliffe and the montbegon family;s from france.
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I have the document Stephen Kay mentions about the Heape family going back to Robert de Hep in 1170. If Don and gandygut are interested in it, let me know as it doesn't relate to my ancestors unfortunately.
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I'm interested! Any Kendal (and North Lancs./Westmoreland/Cumberland) Heap's listed in your ancient document?
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They all seems to be from Rochdale. Have a look at the family tree I have put on Ancestry and see if any of the names tie in with your interests. Robert Taylor Heape 1813-1888 is there with quite a few of the family members.
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Hi
According to our research the Heap family established themselves in Lancaster where they were seated at Failsworth and Adam Heap was Lord of the manor. They were originally from the parish of Gueron in Bayeaux in Normandy and were a branch of the Monceux family. Robert Heaps was forced to forfeit the lands of Hurst Monceux (spelling then) in Sussex but later they were restored to his successor, Richard Heap. By the 16th Century they had branched to Cheshire.
Hope this helps!
Wendy Spencer, Hall of Names
http://www.hallofnames.org.uk
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Hi!
My grandad was Heap, he came from Clitheroe in Lancashire. I'd love to find out more about his family, he died when I was 1 and I know very little about him.
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Hi
My mother was a Heapey/Heapy her parents were from Leominster. mother ---.Yarpole Hereford Father
i have Tree going back to Thomas Hepy /Heapey born the
end of1660. he married a Katherine/Catherina at Elton Hereford 20 June 1685 He died at Richards Castle Shropshire 17th Jan- 1717 OUR family derives from William.
baseborn son of Martha Hepy(Heapey) in 1782 he enlisted in1800 to 1803- served 1800-1802 in Jamaica lost a leg and
invalided out as a Chelsea pensioner in 1803
He used this pension to by land in Yarpole, Hereford where the family lived right up until my grandfather moved to
Wales and married in 1904 .His father died in Yarpole after remarrying and having one more son.
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with regard to the name heap,i have recently been given a family book/tree that was commisioned by charles heape and richard heape in the late 1800's at a cost of 1,780.00 pounds,the research in this is extensive,all family trees in relation to heap going as far back as robert de hep born in1170,according to this book he married cicillia de bury,anyway if there are any questions or family members back in the day feel free to contact me and i will do my best to answer,like i wrote earlier this book covers all branches and there relations,to the de bury,de radcliffe and the montbegon family;s from france.
I have a GGrandfather William Woodroofe who had a son George Ellis Heep Woodroofe born March 1841, Kensington, Middx.. The Woodroofe's had three generations of Excise Officers and I would love to know if the "Heep" listed is a surname of a friend or family member. Are there any Woodroofe's listed in your book? Thank you, Lookin2
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I arrived in Australia in 1948 and I remember a chemist shop in Ryde,about 20 odd kg from Sydney and the proprietor was Heap and he ha a north country accent.
Don't suppose it helps much but I just thought that it should be thrown in the pot.
Joe 8) 8)
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Joboy
Thank you for your response. I am sure it will be of interest to all the Heaps out there. Lookin2
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Hi my maiden name is heapey my grandad was Thomas heapey from bircher I think he had 2 sisters Ellen and Annie and 1 brother James. There was also a bakery a Orleton that was run by relatives
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My maiden name was Heaps & my 4x grandfather was born in Hornby, then moved to Caton. But I cannot find out where in Hornby he was born ☹️
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Sorry to put the cat among the pigeons but my grandmothers maden name was Heap. She and her family are Jewish and have been in England as far back as 1600. I havn't managed to get any further with my research though! Ps there are no lancashire connections in my branch of Heap's.
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I have a Mini Tree for Heaps in New Zealand
1. Heaps, Andrew (b.1895)
2. Heaps, Charlotte Hurlock (b.1891)
3. Heaps, Elizabeth Annie (b.1904)
4. Heaps, Ethel Susan (b.1897)
5. Heaps, Frank Priestly (1893 - 1918)
6. Heaps, Henry Branch (b.1863)
7. Heaps, John Hurlock (b.1881)
8. Heaps, Joseph Priestly (1861 - 1939)
9. Heaps, Joseph Richard (1902 - 1926)
10. Heaps, Joseph William (b.1839) <------- Shoreditch, UK
As I remember if you put Frank Priestly Heaps name in the London Gazette he comes up as a Book Binder in London.
He came out to New Zealand with his brother and mother and started a Ferry service across a river for miners in Southland. (I forget the details now)