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Title: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 16:27 GMT (UK)
This is from a service record.
Line 1 ????
Line 2  India
Line 3 ????
Line 4 ? ? ? UK
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Can anyone decipher Lines 1,3 & 4?

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 01 December 07 16:29 GMT (UK)
Line 3 - en route UK?
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 01 December 07 16:30 GMT (UK)
Line 1 - ..... E I (East Indies)??  just a guess :-\


or E F??  :-\
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 16:30 GMT (UK)
Yes, that looks right, CatOne  :)

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: 01debbie on Saturday 01 December 07 16:31 GMT (UK)
Line 3 En Socile U.K ?  Maybe a social trip home??
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: meles on Saturday 01 December 07 16:31 GMT (UK)
I think it's "E F"

meles
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: meles on Saturday 01 December 07 16:32 GMT (UK)
And definitely "En route"

meles
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: 01debbie on Saturday 01 December 07 16:34 GMT (UK)
I think you're all right after looking at it again re En route & as for line 3, it only took a day to get there from India if the dates are correct.

Debbie  :)
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: 01debbie on Saturday 01 December 07 16:36 GMT (UK)
Oh, just noticed... India on  line 2 was a day from line 1 as well  :D
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 16:41 GMT (UK)
Debbie I think your reading it wrong, that's when his tour of duty started.  He was in the country on line 1 (that we can't read) from 18/6/1917 - 11/5/1918.  Technically his next tour of duty started the next day, 12.5.1918 in India.  They don't take into consideration how long it takes to get there it's included in the tour of duty.
I think that's EF as well.  It's not an 'I' as that's different in the word, 'India'.

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 01 December 07 16:49 GMT (UK)
EF - Eastern Front??  :-\
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: 01debbie on Saturday 01 December 07 16:51 GMT (UK)
Debbie I think your reading it wrong, that's when his tour of duty started.  He was in the country on line 1 (that we can't read) from 18/6/1917 - 11/5/1918.  Technically his next tour of duty started the next day, 12.5.1918 in India.  They don't take into consideration how long it takes to get there it's included in the tour of duty.
I think that's EF as well.  It's not an 'I' as that's different in the word, 'India'.

jane

Whoops...sorry Jane.  I'll go & crawl in a hole now & die of embarrassment  :-[ :-[

I hope you get some good answers from some sensible people soon  :D

Debbie
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 16:58 GMT (UK)
;D  It took me a while sitting and studying wretched military forms and their odd jargon to make sense of everything, so no embarrassment  :)
In another part of the record there are references to MEF, something Expeditionary Forces ?

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 01 December 07 17:00 GMT (UK)
Line 3 looks like Mesop ( = Mesopotamia)
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: meles on Saturday 01 December 07 17:01 GMT (UK)
It's certainly a puzzler, Jane!

Line 1 is, I think an "N", then there is a loop from "India", then "es"

The Third line is similar, but an "M" and then "oe" then "sop"

But what that means, however.... :-\

meles

Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 01 December 07 17:05 GMT (UK)
Line 1 could well be Mes E.F. for Mesopotamia Expeditionary Force.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0PAB/is_2_112/ai_114049550
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 17:05 GMT (UK)
Think you might be right, Shaun, Mesopotamia,

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 01 December 07 17:06 GMT (UK)
Mesopotamia looks good - think there was an Expeditionary Force too.

Hopefully his regiment is known - try asking on 'Armed Forces' for its whereabouts during those dates .....

or google ...... see Section 6 - http://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/ww1_victory_medal_award.htm
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 17:07 GMT (UK)
He was a gunner in the Royal Garrison Artillery (RGA)

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 17:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks guys, I think we've cracked it.  Thanks for those links!

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 17:18 GMT (UK)
On another page of the record it says, 'MEF, embarked Bombay 14/1/1919, disembarked, Basrah, 20/1/1919'.  Basra being in modern Iraq, so it all makes sense.  Thanks so much  :)

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: meles on Saturday 01 December 07 17:24 GMT (UK)
There's always someone here who knows the answer!  ;D

meles
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: Jane Masri on Saturday 01 December 07 17:26 GMT (UK)
You're right meles.  Many heads are better than one  ;D

jane
Title: Re: Can you decipher the countries mentioned?
Post by: bob2392 on Saturday 01 December 07 20:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Could be "Meerut" which was a garrison up to partition 1947