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I have just started my family tree and it seems that most of my family came from Fetteresso. Is anyone else searching for the Findlay family? I think I have got them traced back to 1700's.
Thank you
Carol McI
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Not specifically looking for Findlays, but if you come across any Watt's or Dorian's from Stonehaven/Fetteresso please let me know as that's what I'm looking for.
Cheers,
Jim
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Hi Carol,
I'm interested in the Findlay's from Stonehaven/Fetteresso. William Findlay & Ann Duthie family in particular. I've just started too & won't have alot of information.
Lisa
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Hi Lisa
I have just looked through what I have on the Findlays of Fetteresso.
I have a William Findlay farmer, Bishopton Portlethen.
His Uncle was William Duthie late sergeant Royal Artillery, d Stonehaven 01 Sep 1859 age 73.
William of Bisopton's father was William Findlay farmer Starmyre or Starmine, Riccarton, Fetteresso d 10 Sept 1846 age 63. His mother was Ann Duthie d. 18 oct 1866 age 78.
William Findlay (born 1786) and Ann Duthie (b 1791) had children
George d in infancy
David d in infancy
Isobel B 12 April 1821 c 23 Apr 1821 Starmyre (or Starmine) Fetteresso d 22 Feb 1894 Springfield Cookney, Fetteresso
William b 26 June 1823 Starmyre Fetteresso d 11 Dec 1910 Mafeking Cottage Portlethen
Ann b 28 Nov 1825 Starmyre
William (b 26 June 1823) was a Farmer at Balquharn Portlethen, he married Helen Rae Milne 07 Dec 1851 Mill of Monquich. She was born 08 Jan 1827 Nigg Kincardineshire d 09 Nov 1897 Balquharn Portlethen.
They had 10 children
Elsepth b 05 Jan 1869
Ann b 26 April 1862
Helen b 31 July 1863
David Sinclair b 29 Aug 1859 d 12 May 1859
Elizabeth Anderson b 01 July 1875 m Daniel S Gibbons
Janet Sinclair b 01 May 1853 m Andrew Anderson
George b 12 June 1860 m Helen Hutcheon
Isabella b 12 Feb 1870 m John Gillanders
Charles b 24 April 1867 d 1867
James b 20 Jan 1865 m Maggie Ann Hutcheon
Isobel Findlay (b 1821) married James Cooper.
I have lots of Findlay's of Fetteresso and I am sure they must all be related but I cannot find the connections. They are mostly buried together in Maryculter Old Templars Park.
I am descended from William Findlay born 1783 Nigg Kincardinshire. He married Ann Melvine. They were farmers at Brucewells Farm Fetteresso. William Findlay has been traced back to John Findlay b 1633 of Craigwells Farm Fetteresso.
Hope this helps. Please let me know if you find any other connections.
Carol
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Hi Carol,
I've just begun my search, but I can relate to the people you are talking about. I do believe I'll find I relate in more ways than 1. This is a little blurb from the other Findlay researcher:
William Findlay & 2 of his sons owned Findlay Dairies in Aberdeen. At various times they owned property in Portlethen area, named Bishopton, Balquharn, & Glasslaw.
Right now I'm trying to get the kids ready for the bus. I'll send you what I have in a little bit, hopefully even today!
Lisa
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Hi Carol,
This is what I have so far, mostly courtesy of the other researcher:
Williamina Milne b. July 28 1842 Old Machar, ch. Sept 4 Nigg m. John Matthew b. Fyvie, his birthdate is all over the place from 1833-1842-my gr gr grandparents
William Milne b. abt 1818 m. Cameron Fullerton b. abt 1820
Elspet Fullerton who married John Milne is sister to Cameron.
John Milne was first married to Catherine Fotheringham. They had a daughter named Helen Rae Milne.
Helen Rae Milne b. Jan 8 1827 ch. Jan 13 Nigg m. William Findlay.
This William Findlay is the Dairy Findlay family.
Lisa
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Hi there!
I have both Duthie's and Findlays in my tree, although as yet unconnected from different branches.
My Duthies hail from Fetteresso/Dunnottar and I'm back to John Duthie born c. 1780. I'd be really interested to exchange any information on the families, in particular anything you might have on William Duthie of the Royal Artillery - I dare say there is a possibility,however remote, that he is perhaps sibling to my John. It's funny the way the world works, I've just put my fathers' fathers' line on hold to look at my fathers' mothers' side, the Duthies ;D
I haven't started on my Findlays yet, I have my great grandfather Douglas Smith Findlay born in Prestwick, Ayr in 1893 but plan to work back from him shortly.
Well, best laid plans and all that...... ::) ;D
Lass x
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Hi Lass,
Do you happen to have Milne's in your tree too?
Lisa
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Well, I have Findlay, Milne and Duthie in my tree.
Lass, if you send me your e-mail address I will invite you to look at my tree on Ancestry.com.
Where are your Findlays from?
Carol
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Lisa
No, sorry, no Milne's unless there's a marriage somewhere that I haven't followed through. Just in case there's a mutual crossover, it's worth mentioning I've got Balharry, Hendry, Duthie, Illingworth, Waterston and Barrie as my main folks.
Carol
Thanks for that, I'll pm you now - my tree is on Genes if that's any help to anyone, let me know and I'll pm you the details. I don't yet know where my Findlays originate, although Mum seems to think it's Kincardine, but I haven't explored beyond my g-grandfather yet and he was born Ayr.
Lass x
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Hi Lass
You mentioned John Duthie, born about 1780 in Fetteresso/Dunnottar. Was he baptised on 16 Oct 1778 in Fetteresso and again on 26 Oct 1778 in Dunnottar? Son of William Duthie in Arduthie?
I believe this could be my John Duthie who became a hairdresser in Aberdeen. He married Bathia Duthie, daughter of John Duthie and Bathia Fyfe.
Any connections?
Andy
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Happy Hunting
Dod.
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I am amazed. I had never heard of picasaweb but the information that you you posted was fascinating. I could see lots of my relatives on the Cookney school roll. My Findlays are from Brucewells and Upper Backburn but I do have one Findlay married to a Spark.
I don't suppose you have a picture of Brucewells in your collection do you? I believe it is still standing.
Thank you for posting all the information.
Carol
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You'll find a photo of Brucewells Farm taken this evening from my home on Picasaweb
Regards Dod m
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Thanks Dod m, thats the Findlay family I'm looking for. I hope to get some time this evening to look at everything.
Cordially,
Lisa
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Hi Lass
You mentioned John Duthie, born about 1780 in Fetteresso/Dunnottar. Was he baptised on 16 Oct 1778 in Fetteresso and again on 26 Oct 1778 in Dunnottar? Son of William Duthie in Arduthie?
I believe this could be my John Duthie who became a hairdresser in Aberdeen. He married Bathia Duthie, daughter of John Duthie and Bathia Fyfe.
Any connections?
Andy
Hi Andy
To be honest, I'm not sure is the answer to your questions! I have John Duthie born c 1780, poss Kincardine, married to Elisabeth Herd ~ I have a variety of question marks and 'double check' notes against this as I've yet to confirm this particular marriage. This couple (as I presently have them) had 3 children: John, Charles and Ann. I need to spend more time focussing on this branch.
Lass x
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Hi dod m
Very interesting. I'm glad that someone saved the pages from the school registers. Is there any way that I can size up the pages from the family tree book that John wrote?
I also noted that you are researching Milnes', I have many Milnes' in my tree, maybe we have a connection there through one of them.
Thanks so much for the posting.
Cordially,
Lisa
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Thank you dod m for the picture of Brucewells.
Carol
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I am researching the Findlays of Fetteresso and have traced them back to John Findlay, farmer at Craigwells, Maryculter in 1706 when his son William was born. Witness to the birth was John Duthie who also lived at Craigwells. This may not be relevant but I thought I would mention that the Findlays and the Duthies seem to have been close in the 1700's
Carol
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WOW!! :o
I've just tried to google my great-grandparents (no longer with us!) and it seems they were more important than I thought. My great-grandfather was William Findlay from Netherley in the Fetteresso area (his father's grave is in the kirkyard of Fetteresso)and he went to school at Cookney. He married Hilda Maggie Clerk Watson who was working at the Tollbooth in Stonehaven, with her father (James Watson, married to Margaret Park), during WW1. I know that my Nan (Hilda, Elizabeth, Christie, Findlay - aka Betty) was born 31/12/1923 in 20 Victoria Street, Stonehaven, and lives in Rugby, Warwickshire now. (as does her younger(?) brother Alastair) William went on to work at the radio station in Stonehaven and the moved to Rugby when the newly built shipping radio station was built outside Rugby.
I visited Stonehaven a couple of times (20yrs ago) and fell in love with the area then. Time, work and family committments have kept me away for a long time. I think I feel another visit coming on!? ;D
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Hi Mark
I was glad to see your posting.
We have the same ancestors.
My gg grandparents were William Findlay and May Lawrie.
William and May were your ggg grandparents. I think that makes us 'third cousins once removed'.
I have the Fetteresso MI's. If you do not have them please let me know and I will look up any names you are interested in.
Can you see my tree on Ancestry.com? If you cannot, send me your e-mail address and I will send you an invite.
Carol
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I've just spoken to my Nan again, at 86 she gets a little confused when pushed for accurate info, but she reckons her dad (William) had 6 siblings. George, Arthur, Elsie, May, Fanny and Ninah. Elsie had 2 daughters called Nellie and Jessie.
As for my g grandmother, Hilda Maggie Clerk Watson, her parents were James and Margaret (nee Park) and they had a farm at Little Faraquay (not sure of spelling) and moved down into the town when the "ministry" took all but one of their ponies at the onset of WW1.
My nan gets very proud to retell how so many of George (or Arthur's) offspring have colonised the south island of New Zealand and there's a huge colony centred around Toowoomba in Australia too. I need to follow that up but I think that will not happen 'til after Xmas.
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Are you in New Zealand, Mark? I assumed you were in Scotland.
Carol
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In the Midlands Carol ....lol ;D
My Nan is in Rugby still, over 80 years after moving from Stonehaven as a child. Her only daughter now lives between Locherbie and Dumfries. Linda (my mother) had 3 sons of whom I am the eldest, and the others are equidistant from myself. One is living near Worthing, the other is married to a Scotish lass and living in the same village as my parents near Dumfries.
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I am trying to attach some info for you but RootsChat won't do it.
I am in Malaysia but my brother Allan Findlay and family are in Glasgow and cousin John Findlay in London.
Here is my e-mail address. If you e-mail me I will send them.
Carol
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I had a look for the names you gave me before for your mother's siblings.
I cannot find a Ninah Findlay and the only Arthur Findlay was born in Nigg, Kincardineshire in 1910 and died in Aberdeen in 1986. Is he your g uncle?
I did find George though - he is George Craig Findlay b. 21 July 1884 in Meadowfield, Cookney.
My father, James Findlay would be 90 if he were still alive. The same generation as your Nan. He was born in Aberdeen but often visited his family near Stonehaven. They probably met.
All the best
Carol
Carol
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Fanny and Ninah spent their last days in/near Portlethen, believe, in warden assisted accomodation. Both were well into their 90's at the end. They were the last and youngest of the 7 siblings, and died within a few years of each other back in the 1990's.
As for the brothers, I believe you'll have to look into contacting the Australian and New Zealand immigration records for their details, they definately left "to seek their fortune" sometime between the "wars". (Ahhh ...those were the days! ....[sigh]) ::)
My Nan's cousin Nellie (daughter of May Findlay) lives/ed in Peterculter/Maryculter until recently.
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Hi Mark,
Have you been in touch with the Findlays' from Australia? & have you ever heard the story of a disowned Findlay woman?
Thanks,
Lisa
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"Disowned"?? ....Sounds juicy! PM me the details please. :o ;D
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Hi Mark
I too am decendant from William Findlay and May Lawrie. I decend from their son James born 1850 died 1896.
I have a picture of their grave stone if you are interested
Norma
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Hi Lass
You mentioned John Duthie, born about 1780 in Fetteresso/Dunnottar. Was he baptised on 16 Oct 1778 in Fetteresso and again on 26 Oct 1778 in Dunnottar? Son of William Duthie in Arduthie?
I believe this could be my John Duthie who became a hairdresser in Aberdeen. He married Bathia Duthie, daughter of John Duthie and Bathia Fyfe.
Any connections?
Andy
Hi Andy
I'm interested in this John Duthie too. I think he was the son of William Duthie and Christian Leslie (based on age and profession) and was born 7 April 1781. He was a hairdresser, as was his father-in-law and his son. There was another John Duthie b. 1786/7 who remained single and was a patient advocate at an asylum. He was brother-in-law to our John.
All the best
Eddie
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Hello All
New to this so bear with me but am looking for a George Duthie married to a Isabella Mathieson from Fetteressco Kincardineshire and later family at Aberdeenshire. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I come from the land of Australia other associated names areChristina Nicholson and Christina Smith
Thankyou
Yvonne
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Hello Yvonne
Have you tried Scotland's People? It's a good place to start:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Also, can you give us some dates and maybe how the other associated names fit in?
All the best
Eddie
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Hi Eddie
Thanks will try Scotlands People George Duthie was 39 born in Fetteressco Kincardine in the 1861 census he and Isabella were listed as having 4 children at the time
Christina
Mary Isabella
Roseann
Jessie Some were born in Kilmallie County Argyl Invernessshire not much to go on Sorry George was also a Master Mason the other Christinas tie in some where but not sure yet as to where
Thanks for your assistance Yvonne
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Hi all :)
Where would I access the Cookney school role?
Regards
Tracey
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Hi all :)
Where would I access the Cookney school role?
Regards
Tracey
Yes, is it online somewhere?
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Hello, A couple of Cookney School Registers, one dated 1874-1889 the other 1897-1921 were recovered. these records had fallen down behind wall panels. As far as I'm aware the rest of the records were destroyed by the Council.
They are in Excel XLR format, so can be sorted by name date etc.
If anyone requires a copy?.PM me and I will email a copy to you.
Regards Dod
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Hello, A couple of Cookney School Registers, one dated 1874-1889 the other 1897-1921 were recovered. these records had fallen down behind wall panels. As far as I'm aware the rest of the records were destroyed by the Council.
They are in Excel XLR format, so can be sorted by name date etc.
If anyone requires a copy?.Let me know.
Regards Dod
Aberdeen City and Aberdeenshire Archives hold records relating to Cookney School, including admission registers from 1921 and log books from 1874, so they certainly weren't destroyed by the Council! The Archives hold school records for around 500 schools across the North East of Scotland and you can see what school records we have on their online catalogue at www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/archivecatalogue
Do you know if the original registers you have which are in an Excel format survive? It explains why the Archives only have ones from 1921 if these were found at a later date, behind a wall panel. It's amazing the places things like this turn up in! We recently received an admission register which was believed to have been destroyed in a fire, but had actually been taken home by one of the teachers. The register was then found in the loft many years later!
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I believe you already had access to the records when you copied them from the originals held by a local farmer who found them when he was converting the school into a grain drier.
I copied these records about 20 years ago, and have no idea if the originals still survive.
If you have the complete set of admission records, I'm very pleased to hear that, and I look forward to accessing them on line.Thank You for letting me know.
When Kincardineshire was amalgamated with Aberdeenshire there was very strong rumors that school registry records among others were being destroyed!!.
Thank You for your help.
Dod
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I believe you already had access to the records when you copied them from the originals held by a local farmer who found them when he was converting the school into a grain drier.
I copied these records about 20 years ago, and have no idea if the originals still survive.
If you have the complete set of admission records, I'm very pleased to hear that, and I look forward to accessing them on line.Thank You for letting me know.
When Kincardineshire was amalgamated with Aberdeenshire there was very strong rumors that school registry records among others were being destroyed!!.
Thank You for your help.
Dod
It seems we do indeed hold a photocopy of the admission registers - our list shows them as being for 1867 to 1899 and 1897 to 1921. The ones we hold from 1921 to 1968 are the original registers kept by the school. It would be interesting to find out if the other ones do survive somewhere - though given that they were found behind a wall, they might have been in some state and photocopying was the only option!
How odd that there was a rumour that Kincardine records were to be destroyed! I know that there was a lot of people who didn't want (and still don't) to be part of Aberdeenshire, and that Kincardine should retain its status, so it might have been to do with that. The Kincardine records were already held by the Grampian Regional Archives, before they became part of what is now Aberdeen City and Aberdeenshire Archives.
The link given about the records online is a link to our catalogue. It does not have images of the records, nor can you search on information held within the records. It's a list of items we hold (like a library catalogue) so you can see what school records we have and then get in touch about how to access them!
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I have a George Duthie and Isabella McDonald Circa 1822/1823 in my family tree with a daughter named Jessie born in 1857 who was married in 1882 to Daniel Mooney who was my great great grandfather . On their marriage certificate it states that George Duthie is the father and occupation as Master Mason mother maiden name as Isabella McDonald and deceased. On the Census of 1861 it has a George Duthie Born in Fortwilliam and Isabella born in Argyle.I am especially interested in Isabella McDonald who was supposed to be a direct decendent from the Glencoe McDonalds.My mother was very proud of her Glencoe connections but I can't find them . It's guesswork after that as to who her parents were.
Would anyone have any information that would help.hanks Joan
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Hi Mark Simpson
I can clear up a few of your questions regarding the Findlay's from Netherlay. My uncle was William Findlay from Netherley. He married Hilda. Betty is my cousin. My mother Lizzie was a sister of William Findlay.
There were 8 siblings in total. George 31/07/1884 - 7/06/1968, Elsie 8/08/1885, David (who emegrated to NZ) 20/10/1886 - 1992, Maggie (died in infancy) 26/07/1888 - 26/09/1889, Lizzie (My Mother) 6/09/1890 - 26/4/1977, William 26/04/1892, May 9/10/1893, Nina (Mary) 17/10/1902 - 13/11/1995, and Fanny 12/01/1904 - 26/01/1993. May had 2 daughters called Nellie and Jessie.
There parents were David Findlay 30/06/1856 - 18/02/1937 and Margaret Craig 22/10/1858 - 22/02/1917.
David was the youngest of a family of William Findlay and May Lourie. The other siblings were Jean, Willie, George, James, John and Robert.
Margaret Craig was the daughter of George Craig and Barbera Middleton. The other siblings were Elsie, Barbera, Mary, Isobel, Nellie, Jeannie, Jamie, George and Joseph.
Betty's brother Alistair visited me here at Chrisswell Farm, Greenock some years ago and my sister Elsie who lives in St Thomas in Ontario has visited the family in NZ.
Douglas
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Hi,
A big thank you to Dod for the Cookney school rolls :)
Merry Christmas to all 8)
Kindest regards
Tracey
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Hi all, Fanny Findlay was my Grandmother and I remember Ninah well. My Grandmother wrote somethings down in the last few years of her life when she lived in Glebe Court. There is a lot written down about the history of the Craig and Findlay families and some of her youthful memories that make good reading. I was going to get it all re-typed but have not got round to it.
If anyone wants copies get in touch and I think my aunts have some more info if needed. There's also stuff on the Milnes as well
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Hi all, Fanny Findlay was my Grandmother and I remember Ninah well. My Grandmother wrote somethings down in the last few years of her life when she lived in Glebe Court. There is a lot written down about the history of the Craig and Findlay families and some of her youthful memories that make good reading. I was going to get it all re-typed but have not got round to it.
If anyone wants copies get in touch and I think my aunts have some more info if needed. There's also stuff on the Milnes as well
Hi there, I would be very interested in a copy of the history of the above families.
Dod m
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Hi
I have just started to research our Findlay / Aitken connections in Fetteresso & would appreciate any help
My Wife's G grandfather is James Findlay born 1840, his wife was Jane (Wilson?) Park born 1845.
They lived at Old Hillock for the 1871 &1881 census's
I am also looking into a connection between James Findlay & William Findlay born 1877 & his parents James Findlay & Isabella Pyper.
Thanks in advance for your help & suggestions
John
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Dear John
I am sorry I am unable to offer any help in connecting your Findlay relatives. I have no Findlay's in my family tree. Although I have several Duthie lines I have as yet been unable to make a Findlay connection. There is a Duthie connection with Ann Duthie and William Findlay but she is not one of my Duthie so far.
I have looked at your Findlay's and it appears one set of relatives originate in Ayrshire as far back as 1783 and the other in Kincardine going back to 1752.
I wish you every success in your research.
Joan
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Hi john, just come across this post. James Findlay and Isabella Pyper were my great grandparents.
What info are you trying to find?
Norma