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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ross & Cromarty => Topic started by: GDub71 on Sunday 23 December 07 12:22 GMT (UK)
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HI,
I'm interested in anyone descended from McAngus's from Hilton of Cadboll. It seems that everyone of the name has origins in this small village. My Gt Grandmother Ann McAngus was born there in 1902, the daughter of Donald McAngus and Dolina McKenzie. The family were mainly fisher-folk going all the way back as far as records exist (almost 1700). They also employed a limited number of male forenames; Hugh, Donald, Andrew, David, John and Alexander being prolific.
The Mckenzie's and Tarrel's both intermarried with the McAngus family on several occasions. If you do have connections let me know and we can see if we tie it altogether!
Graham
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Hello Graham,
I am a descendant of George Sutherland and Sophia MacKenzie who lived in Hilton of Cadboll. A fair number of my family branches lived in Hilton and Balintore during the 1800s and 1900s.
I noticed you had mentioned about the McAngus, McKenzie and Tarrel families. I was wondering if I am correct in thinking that some Tarrel individuals sometimes went by the last name McKenzie?
By any chance do you have any connection to a certain Isabel Tarrel who married Hugh Sutherland on December 3, 1829 in Fearn (I believe their marriage would of taken place in Hilton) ?
Take care for now!
Colin
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Judging by the IGI, your Isabel Tarrel would have been either:
b.17/08/1808 , duaghter of Donald Tarrel and Janet Ross
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b.13/10/1808, daughter of Alexander Tarrel and Janet Main
and it looks like Donald and Alexander are brothers anyway. I think they're both sons of Alexander Tarrel and Isabel MacLemon (MacLeman) born 1785 and 1782 respectively.
There could be, and probably is a connection with my Tarrel's. As for the name being interchanged with McKenzie, I''m not sure. I know that back around 1800, in Fearn, Gaelic names such as Ogg or this one I found; McAlastervig, were anglicized where possible, or simply replaced by a common local name, and I believe it was the Minister who chose this for them. But, I could be wrong on that acccount.
Graham
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I am part of the McAngus family from Hilton which moved to the US.
William McAngus was born in Hilton about 1842 and went to Texas in 1867. He was the son of Donald McAngus (c. 1800-1851/61) and Barbara Vass (c. 1799-after 1863).
If anyone is interested in this Texas side of the family, just let me know and I will supply details.
--Larry Jackson
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Hi Larry, I too am descended from Donald McAngus and Barbara Vass through their son Hugh. Your ancestor William was born at Hilton of Cadboll on 24th October 1841.
I believe he married a Jessie McKenzie, then "Sailed to America with his betrothed, leaving Liverpool in October 1866, they encountered a bad storm lasting several days in the Irish Sea. Went to work for a large landowner in Texas."
I have on my tree a grand-daughter for William and Jessie, called Ruth Jackson (who probably supplied the emigration details - I forget), which would indicate some connection to yourself, am I right.
I would be very interested in any information about this line of the family. If you don't want to post it all on here, then feel free to PM me!
Graham
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Hi, Graham.
Yes, I am the eldest son of Ruth Jackson, who passed away in April. She was the last living grandchild of William, the McAngus who came to Texas.
I wrote a family history several years ago which included some information on Hilton. I will post here the first few paragraphs of one chapter. If you are interested, I will be happy to send you the entire book by email.
--Larry Jackson
Texas
The village of Hilton, on the eastern coast of Scotland, has been home to the MacAngus family for generations. When the national census takers came to Hilton in 1851, they found a 50-year-old fisherman named Donald MacAngus, who is the forebear of the Texas McAngus clan.
Five children were living at home with Donald and his wife Barbara Vass. The oldest son was Andrew, then 20 to 25 years old. He, like his father before him, had been born in Fearn, the parish in which Hilton lies. His mother, however, had been born in the nearby parish of Nigg.
Next in age was David, then 12, followed by Hugh, age 10, William, age 8, and Barbara, age 7. There were at least two older sisters, Nelly and Helen, who were no longer living at home.
For some reason, the family had not been listed in Hilton in the national census conducted 10 years earlier, in 1841. Numerous other MacAnguses were listed, though. And every one of the six male heads of household named MacAngus was a fisherman.
Hilton was, and still is, a small village on the eastern coast of a peninsula extending into the Moray Firth. This is one of the bays that come inland from the North Sea. In the eighth and ninth centuries, Norse raiders plundered this area. Where the bay plunges deepest into Scotland lies the city of Inverness, some 30 miles to the south of Hilton. South of Inverness is Loch Ness, famous for its “monster” and the largest of all the Scottish lochs.
In the 1841 census, the parish of Fearn was part of “Enumeration District No. 5” in the District of Easter Ross. Fearn was described as “The South District, comprehending the fishing villages of Balintore and Hilton.” Hilton, incidentally, was also spelled as “Hilltown,” which gives a clue to its terrain.
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If you want to see some pictures of Hilton of Cadboll go to www.northernsights.net
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hi Graham; I can not email you for some reason. I would like the history of the Texas MacAnguses ,hope this finds you and your family all well,Tom Brunton
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Hi Graham
You posted this a while ago , so I wonder if you are still online. I too am a direct descendent of the family MacAngus family you mention, although I am confused by the mention of Ann b. 1902. My maternal Grandmother, age 95 years is the only remaining (alive) of the 14 children born to Dolina Mackenzie(b.1876,d.1952?) and Donald MacAngus(b.1860's,d.1940?). I have the children listed as Bella (never married, no children), Jessie, Dan, Nancy(ah, maybe Ann? - she lived in Tain), Andrew, Hughie, Mina, John, Babsie, Chrissie(my Gran), Nellie, Dina, David + Alexander (both David + Alexander died in childhood of TB).
Dolina's mother was called Ann. Dolina was an only child who had 14!
Did you mention or was it another post that they are not in Hilton in 1841 census - they were in Portgower, Parish of Loth - around the coast going North - they seemed to have done a lot of that!
If you want further info. let me know. Although my Gran left 'the village' (as they all call it) at age 14 , I live about 12 miles or so from it.
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Hi there,
Yes my Gt Granny Ann McAngus was more commonly called Nancy. She married Neil Mackay from Tain. That's where my mother Angela Mackay grew up. Her father Donald Mackay was a milkie and still lives in Tain.
I have a daughter Margaret McAngus down for Donald & Dolina as well. That was information that came from my grandfather way back. I have her as unmarried, although it's possible my Grandfather got that worng somehow.
Do you have dates of birth for the other siblings? because unfortunately I don't, but I would like to obtain that information for my tree.
Graham
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Hello!
I'd appreciate information on the Texas family if you're still following this post. I believe I am descended through their William McAngus and Jessie McKenzie's son William McAngus (married to Lizzie Ross). I'm just beginning to trace the family, so I'd love to get some confirmation on this and any more information that you might have.
Also, I'm a bit confused--I've read some reports that they are from Tain in Ross shire, and here it says they are from Hilton of Cadboll. I'm not at all familiar with the area, so I'd also appreciate some clarification on their location. Thank so much!!
-Jessica
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Hi Jessica,
I have Will McAngus and Elizabeth Ross on my tree with 4 children: William, Jessie, Marvin and Chrystelle.
Will's parents were as you might know; William McAngus and Jessie McKenzie. Both were from Hilton of Cadboll in Fearn parish, Ross-shire. William sailed for America in 1866 and Jessie in 1867. They were married at Pflugerville later in 1867. William was born 24/10/1841 at Loth in Sutherland. The family had moved there for a brief spell, but returned to Hilton. Jessie was born at Hilton in 1849.
William's parents were Donald McAngus and Barbara Vass, my GT Gt Gt Gt Grandparents. Donald was born at Hilton on 16/10/1799. He was a fisherman, as most of the male poulation of Hilton were. His parents were; Donald McAngus b.1776 and Helen Ogg (or Young). This Donald was the son of Donald McAngus and Margaret Vass. He was born at Hilton in 1747. I believe he was the son of John Mcangus and Ann Cameron.
Hope that helps
- Graham
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Thanks so much!! What great information! Jessie McAngus was my great grandmother (for whom I was named). She married into the Sudduth family and remained in Texas (Eldorado in Schleicher County).
Thank you for sharing your research with me!!
-Jessica
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Hi, Graham.
Yes, I am the eldest son of Ruth Jackson, who passed away in April. She was the last living grandchild of William, the McAngus who came to Texas.
I wrote a family history several years ago which included some information on Hilton. I will post here the first few paragraphs of one chapter. If you are interested, I will be happy to send you the entire book by email.
--Larry Jackson
Texas
Hi Larry, My Name is William McAngus Gettys, I am the GG Grandson of William and Jesse McAngus. My Grandfather was Eli Hugh "Mac" McAngus, through their son, Hugh. I would be very interested to see your book if you are still following this post.
Best wishes,
Will
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Hello,
My Grandmother's name was Bella McAngus and she came from Hilton. She married Donald Urquhart of Tain and moved to Leicester, England, where my father was born. She died in 1969 and I think she was around 89 years old. We used to visit Hilton many years ago. I certainly remember the name "Tarrel", but I'm unsure if they were relatives or not. I may be able to find more information from my mother and some of the old family records if you're interested.
Regards,
Simon Urquhart
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Hello Guys, I believe the MacAngus's in the Villages were known as the "Cannisheek", that won't be the spelling but the nearest to its pronounciation. My own Gt'Grannie was a Helen Mackenzie from Londhu,Fearn Station. Her father Andrew Mackenzie and mother Ann Thomson, the last of them there died after the war Ebie Mackenzie, who was the local Seannachie, who would have been good on the RootsChat!! There is an old map of Hilton in the map section on "scotfamtree", great site folks. Have you read "My Uncle George" by Alastair Phillips, a smashing read, his uncle was the Free Church Minister at Fearn, Rev Mackay, and there's quite a bit about the Hilton folk,available in paperback, very funny. Cheers The Noo!......Skoosh.
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Hi Simon,
I do have an Isabella McAngus on my tree, born 1878 at Hilton of Cadboll, so it could well be one and the same. She was the daughter of Hugh McAngus and Janet Tarrel, their 7th child of 9 as far as I can tell. Her brother Donald was my Gt Gt Granfather.
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Hello Guys, I believe the MacAngus's in the Villages were known as the "Cannisheek", that won't be the spelling but the nearest to its pronounciation. My own Gt'Grannie was a Helen Mackenzie from Londhu,Fearn Station. Her father Andrew Mackenzie and mother Ann Thomson, the last of them there died after the war Ebie Mackenzie, who was the local Seannachie, who would have been good on the RootsChat!! There is an old map of Hilton in the map section on "scotfamtree", great site folks. Have you read "My Uncle George" by Alastair Phillips, a smashing read, his uncle was the Free Church Minister at Fearn, Rev Mackay, and there's quite a bit about the Hilton folk,available in paperback, very funny. Cheers The Noo!......Skoosh.
Hi Skoosh; Uisdean MacAngus ,of chapter 8 in My Uncle George,was my great grandfather,my grandfather being Alexander ( Aly-Uisdean) MacAngus of 2 King St Hilton. His brother Hugh was lost inn WW1 on the minesweeper HMT Dhoon , and they lived a short stones throw round the corner on Braefoot,where his widow and the daughter he never saw lived out their lives. His daughter Christina ,my mom's first cousin was very kind to me on my visits to hilton.
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Hi: I'm new to this website and so I'm not sure if I am responding to Tom Brunton or hiltonladdie (maybe the same person). I grew up in Hilton and recall as a small boy after WWII going along King St., to get the newspaper at Davidge's shop. "Aly-Uisdean" had a small dog which used to run out and bark at me and scared me! The name Tommy Brunton rings familiar. I should welcome corresponding with others interested in Hilton. Walter Balfour (formerly of 14 King St.); (*)
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Aye; Hilton Laddie and Tommy Brunton are the one and the same, Aly-uisdean's curly blond haired grandson ,who lived at 2 King St during the war.(now old,dark brown and grey,and bald) My mother was Alexander and Annie MacAngus's daughter Alice MacAngus , who met and married my father Andrew Brunton when he came as member of the Canadian Cameron Highlanders of Winnipeg to visit his uncle Gordon Crawford the school headmaster. My granny Annie's brother William Tarrel was a Black Watch lieutenant in WW1 and a school headmaster as well. A young picture of me with my mother ,and one of my mother Alice with two of her her brothers and sisters ,my uncle Alexander MacAngus (lost at sea WW2) and my aunt Ina MacAngus. There were in the family also Bella , Jess, Annie , John, Davey , Hughie and Don
Macangus
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my uncle Don playing the pipes at my wedding and on the left my uncle during the war Hugh MacAngus, my mother's brother,who served in the Royal Navy and was based at HMS Collingwood, Fareham, Hants - X 9986 B and the other two sailors I do not know
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I wonder if the Don McAngus, Winnipeg that you mention was the boy who used to do chores (like chopping wood for kindling) for my mother during the war. Walter.
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YES HE WAS TOO YOUNG TO SERVE. HE WAS AWARDED THE QUEEN'S JUBILEEE MEDAL FOR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF WINNIPEG AND LEFT A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY
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Tom. Thanks for the wonderful info. I found a long obit for your uncle Don on the web. I also appreciate all the details on family history. It would be great to piece together the Hilton families. I have a copy of "My Uncle George". Another good read is "Down to the Sea" by Jessie Macdonald - the full text is on the web. Since you mention Gordon Crawford I am attaching an item on him. A lengthy obit appeared in the Ross-shire Journal 25 Sept 1952. In the photo of Hilton braefoot I believe your grandfather's house is the one with the red brick gateway. Cheers, Walter.
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Gordon Crawford
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Hi Tom, I thought your Uncle Don McAngus was killed on the Royal Oak at Scapa Flow, but I see I must have mixed up my Donald McAngus's somehow.
By the way, I've traced back the Hawaiian McAngus line to an Andrew McAngus, Uncle of Uisdean. See, they are all connected somehow. I'll talk to you soon!
:)
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my mom's first cousin Seaman Donald (Dan) MacAngus , age 19 , was killed on the Royal Oak ,and what a handsome young man he was !!! Our other Don MacAngus was my mom's youngest brother who was sponsored to come to Canada by my mom and dad in 1949 and went on to great things in Winnipeg
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#1 - my uncle seaman Alexander MacAngus , died at the helm of the minesweeper HMT Fleming while in active combat with German dive bombers in the Thames Estuary in 1940
MAcANGUS
Panel 3, Column 1.
Ord. Sea. ALEXANDER
Trawler
LT/JX. 196771. RN. Patrol Service. H.M. Trawler Fleming. 24th July, 1940. Age 20. Son of Alexander and Annie MacAngus, of Hilton, Fearn, Ross and Cromarty.
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#2 - my great uncle Boatswain Donald (Dan) Tarrel of the SS Baron Dechmont ,torpedoed and killed off brazil 1943
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Folks, there's some interesting Hilton stuff on this site, includes a wee poem, "Old Sandy Vass's Wife"
http://www.talkingscot.com/forum/ Type in "Vass" top right. I'm poor at copying these links! Skoosh.
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My Great Grandfather , George William Davage was the newsagent who had the shop in Hilton. Would love to hear from anybody who can remember him. My Grandfather George F Davage born in 1916 left Hilton to join the marines as soon as he was able to and later settled in Portsmouth, my Father never met his Grandfather as he never visted Scotland . I know that Beatrice (George W's wife) was alive until 1958 and I think George was around until the 1960's at least.
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Hi Larry,
I believe you were in touch with my cousin, Marilouis Stout from south Texas at some point as she has a book on the McAngus family that, I believe, you sent her.
I am a descendent of William and Jessie McKenzie McAngus. Their daughter, also Jessie, was married to William Chapman and lived most of their lives in Austin, TX. I remember "grandma Jessie", as we called her and remember attending her funeral in 1958, I believe, as a young girl. One of her daughters, Beulah Ora (known as Billie) was my maternal grandmother's mother. My maternal grandmother was named Hazelle Novella and her daughter (my mother) was named Billie Shari (known as Shari). I lost my mother in September of 2011 unfortunately.
Another descendent of grandma Jessie, Mac Roy Rasor, lived near me in Dallas, TX until his death two or three years ago. His mother, Mattie, was Beulah's sister so Mac Roy was was grandma Jessie's grandson. He wrote a book shortly before he died and devoted the first part of it to the McAngus/Chapman family. I have a copy of it.
I have much more information on this part of the family if you would like it and I would be most grateful to receive a copy of your book, it that would be possible.
If I may ask, where do you live?
My phone number in Dallas is * and my address is *.
I have just joined this group to communicate with you but I see there are lots of other folks who apparently are related as well. I could not figure out how to respond to the entire thread - so am just responding to you!
Hope to hear from you soon.
Best regards,
Danielle Weiner
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Hi Jessica,
I am trying to figure out if we are related. My gggm was Jessie McAngus Chapman who lived most of her life with husband, William Chapman, in Austin, TX. Jessie was the daughter of William and Jessie McAngus who came over from Scotland in, I believe, 1867 thru the port of Galveston. My "Grandma Jessie" Chapman, whom I remember, and whose funeral I remember attending in 1958 was the mother of two daughters and, possibly, one son. Her daughters were Beulah (Billie) Ora and Mattie. Billie was my maternal grandmother's mother.
Does any of this sound familiar? If so, I have more info I can share.
Best regards,
Danielle Weiner
Dallas, TX
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You might have already seen this folks, http://www.fearnpeninsula.org.uk/
Skoosh.
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Hello - My name is David MacAngus and I am also looking to trace some of my family tree. My Grandfather who came to Canada in 1911 was named Donald MacAngus I have found a entry to Canada south of Winnipeg, Manitoba which makes me believe he came into Canada from the United States and may be connected to the MacAngus's of Texas. He went back to Scotland later that year or early 1912 as he married Catherine Ross Cumming in 1912 -Tain, Scotland and then returned here to Western Canada. He was I think a carpenter by trade
His mother and father names were John & Annie(MacDonald I believe)
I am told that his brother also immigrated to Canada in the Hamilton, Ontario area around the same time.
I would really appreciate if anyone could help me with more details
Thanks
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My name is Anne Clement and I am Tom Brunton's sister. I am sorry to say that he passed away On April 17th 2015 and will be sadly missed. I was born at 2 King Street, Hilton and last visited in 1988 when my Aunt Jessie MacKay passed away. I have many fond memories of my time there.
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Hi Walter, Tom's sister Anne here. You are right that the red brick gate is 2 King street, Hilton. That door is now a window as renovations have been done. It is no longer the way I remember It. I do remember your name though.
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Hi Anne,
Sorry to hear about Tom. I used to have long chats on Skype with him about the family and the old days. He was really proud of his roots.
Graham
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Hi, just found this thread, I'm I right in thinking that Alex McAngus would be the cousin of my father William Southerland McAngus Alexander who's mother was formaly Isabella Mcangus, she had a brother called Alexander McAngus and a Father called Alexander also ?
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My grandmother is Eleanor McAngus, her sisters were Violet & Dorris; Dorris worked at the Fearn Post Office for most of her life it seems. Their dad & granddad were both Alexander - makes life difficult searching family history with all these Alexanders floating about!