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Hello,
I was given some information about the funeral of one of my relatives that took place in 1907 in Letterkenny, Donegal. His name was Father James Toner and by all accounts he was much loved by all who met him. He was only 48 when he died.
The funeral was attended by well over 500 people from all parts of Donegal and Derry and literally closed the town down for the day.
Unfortunately I have only part of the description. I would love to get the entire obituary because it apparently listed all the parishioners and other local people that attended which would be a goldmine of information :)
I thought I would list the principal mourners in the event that someone else is also looking for these people and may be able to give me more info about this part of my family :)
Main Mourners at the Funeral of Rev. James Toner June 28, 1907, Letterkenny
Parish Priest at Drumoghill 1904-1907
Brother Neal Toner
Brother Peter Toner
Sister Mary Toner
Sister N. Toner
Sister Mrs. Devenny
Sister Mrs. Bridget Bonar (my GGM)
Nephew James McMonagle
Nephew Eddy McMonagle
Nephew Peter McMonagle
Nephew John McMonagle
Nephew Joseph McMonagle
Nephew Eddy Devenny
Nephew Willaim Devenny
Nephew James Devenny
Nephew John Bonar (my GF)
Nephew Peter Bonar
Nephew C. McMonagle
Niece Rose A. Devenny
Niece B. Devenny
Niece Mary Devenny
Niece Mary McMonagle
Niece Anne McMonagle
Niece Mary A. Bonar
Niece Sarah Bonar
P. McGinley, JP, Breenagh
M. McGinley Breenagh
Aunt Mrs. McGinley, (Possibly Susan Toner) Breenagh
Cousin P.T. McGinley, Excise Officer Belfast
Cousin John McGettigan Killymard
Cousin Patrick McGettigan Killymard
Cousin Dan McGettigan Derry
Cousin Mick McGettigan Derry
Cousin Neal McGettigan Derry
Cousin Pat McGettigan Ballyar
Cousin Fanny McGettigan Donegal
Cousin Nelly McGettigan Drumoghill
Cousin Mrs. Gallagher Drumbologne
Cousin Bridget McGettigan Killymard
Cousin Mrs. Lafferty Creeslough
mab
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Hi Mab:
Linda Buckley has a wonderful site for Donegal. You might want to check it and perhaps drop her a note.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/
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Thanks Pat. I have dealt with Lindel in the past. She's amazing and very helpful :)
mab
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Hi are you still out there since December 2007. I hope so, I am so excited by your entry.
My Mcgettigans were at your relatives funeral, why?
I have never come across a Toner surname connected to our family.
We will have to exchange some information.
Geraldine. :-* ???
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Yes I'm still here. To be honest I haven't looked at my family tree for ages and ages. I met so many brick walls that I stopped for a break. I've been working on my husband's tree instead.
I received this information from a researcher who lives in Letterkenny. I had posted somewhere about the name Toner and he had seen it. He is researching the history of the priesthood in and around his area. Out of kindness he faxed me the obituary of James Toner. My Great Grandmother was Bridget Toner who married Alexander Bonner. As you can see the McGettigan's are cousins but I don't...can't remember if I ever figured out the connection to the Toners.
What townland are your McGettigans from? And, where are you?
mab
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Hi Mab and Geraldine.
The cousin Mrs Lafferty, Creeslough would probably be Grace McGettigan who had recently married Dan Lafferty the postmaster there then.
The Laffertys still run the post office and quite a few businesses in the town!
It would be good to know the way that Grace's McGettigans are linked to the Toners?
Henry McFadden (in Creeslough)
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I wish I could tell you but as I only found out that my Great Grandmother was a Toner 2 years ago I am as much in the dark as when I started my family tree.
I have since been given some details of a memorial inscription from the Conwal Cemetery which is as follows:
Rev. James Toner C.C. late of Drumoghill died 19 June 1907 age 45
(Ellen McGettigan was the informant on his death certificate)
his mother Bridget Toner died 21st May 1889 (I don't know her maiden name)
his father Peter Toner died 08th August 1899
.....Peter Toner and Bridget were my Great Great Grandparents and were from Kirkstown.....
Jim Toner died 25th May 1989 aged 82 years (no idea who this is)
his wife Bridie Toner died 26th July 2001 aged 86 years
Peter Toner died 05th June 1930 aged 75 years (James' brother ???)
his wife Kathleen Toner died 10th Nov 1949 aged 79 years
their son Peter Toner died 03rd Sept 1957 aged 54 years
I was hoping that the maiden name of my GGGM would be on the stone but unfortunately not :'(
mab
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Something I just noticed.......my dad had to get a record of his baptism for some reason. I was just looking at it. He was baptized at St. Eugene's Cathedral, Derry by Rev. J.L. McGettigan.
mab ???
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Civil Marriage Registration
Daniel Lafferty and Grace McGettigan, 1906, Letterkenny, Vol 2, page 189
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Derrylass
I'll thank you on behalf of Henry and McGettigan since they came and went and never came back ??? Where did they go :'(
mab
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Hi, I'm still checking the posts weekly!
(broadband hasn't reached Creeslough yet)
Derrylass, thanks for the marriage date of Danny Lafferty and Grace McGettigan.
Was that just from and index or is there more information like parents names, addresses etc?
Cheers
Henry
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Derrylass, thanks for the marriage date of Danny Lafferty and Grace McGettigan.
Was that just from and index or is there more information like parents names, addresses etc?
Index to civil registrations (free):
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
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hello all,
I came across your postings and thought I should give you some data in relation to the Toner's.
Fr. James Toner's sister Mrs. Devenney's name was Frances, Her husband was William Devenney. They lived at Drumnaught , Conwall.
He also had a sister Anne
His aunt Susan Toner married Micky Beag Mc Ginley. ( Breenagh )
They had 10 children - Alice, Annie, Maire, Mick, Patrick, Peter P.T. ( cu Uladh )
Jimmy, Bridget, Susan ( Drumbologue )and Cornelius.
There was also another aunt Mary Toner who married Hudie Mc Daid ( mc Devitt ) only know of one son James.
James Toner who died 25th May 1989 aged 82 was probably a son of Peter and Catherine ( Kathleen ) Toner Kirkstown. James and his wife Bridie lived in Kirkstown.
Which of the Toner's married ? Mc Monigle ?
Unsure of the Mc Gettigan connection, perhaps Bridget Toner (Peter's wife) maiden name was Mc Gettigan. I will check if there is a birth record for their son Neal as according to the 1901 Kirkstown census his age is given as 35, which if correct would mean that he was born 1866. Civil registration commenced 1864.
Killymard parish census 1901
Household - Mc Gettigan - John and Mary, Patrick, Bridget, Fanny, James, Joseph Christopher Monaghan, Annie Dorrian.
Hope this has been useful
Catherine
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Hello Catherine,
Thank you very much for the information, some of which I already knew but it is nice to see it confirmed.
Mab
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IGI index - John McGettigan and Mary Dorrian, Drumroosk, Killymard
Daniel b. Apr 14 1867 Ellen b. May 18 1869 Charles b. Apr 20 1871
Patrick b. Jul 12 1872 Bridget b. Jul 11 1876 Francis b. June 29 1879
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IGI index Corneilus McMonagle and Susan Toner
Edward b. Oct 6 1879
Susan , a widow, is on Glencar Scotch 1901 census.
Corneilus Jnr. immigrated 1907 to his sister Mary in Philadelphia
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hello all
Derrylass thanks for the data.
I did a search at registration office for Neal Toner birth record but none there, therefore I can only assume that he was born before civil registration and the age on 1901 census is incorrect.
Cornelius Mc Monagle snr. died 1901 and Susan Mc Monagle nee Toner ( sister late Rev. James Toner ) died 1902
Parents of Peter Toner Kirkstown who died 8th August 1899 were Peter Toner and Mary McGee
Mc Gettigan still link not sure where it fits ???
catherine
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Parents of Peter Toner Kirkstown who died 8th August 1899 were Peter Toner and Mary McGee
Catherine,
Where did you get this information?
mab
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dear mab
I have copy of the family tree of Mickey Beag McGinley husband of Susan Toner. Susan Toner 1891 -1910. She was Peter Toner's sister.
Data on the tree gives Peter Toner and Mary McGee as parents of Susan. It also gives Mary McGee's parents as Philip McGee and Mary Mc Carron/Carrol. I don't know where the person who compiled the tree got the information. I hope to meet with them soon so i'll ask them.
Catherine
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Thank you Catherine. Let me know what you discover.
mab
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I was also sent one other obituary that someone may be interested in:
Fr. John McMonagle - Derry Journal dated 04 March 1949
"He died after a short illness, was a nephew of late Rev J. Toner, late C.C.
Drumoghill. The youngest son of Mr. Cornelius and Mrs. McMonagle,
Kirkstown. He studied at All Hallows, Dublin, completing his theological
studies in Kilkenny and was ordained in the Cathedral there in June 1921.
After a few months he went to New Zealand where he spent his entire
missionary life. He was Parish Priest of Dalfield, Canterbury. He paid one
visit home, some thirteen years ago, spending a year with his brother, the
late Edward McMonagle, at Leckview, Letterkenny. He was 54 years of age.
Other brothers of the deceased, Patrick and Joseph McMonagle are in
Scotland. Peter and Corneilus are in America. His sister, Mary, is also in
U.S.A. He was predeceased also by his sister, Annie, London and brother James who
lived in Letterkenny."
mab
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Hiya Mab ... thinking that more likely the town in Canterbury NZ would have been Darfield
:) mare
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Thanks Mare....I copied and pasted his email so I had no idea if it was correct :) He is brilliant in that he has given me so much unsolicited info. I would really like to meet him one day.
mab
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dear mab
Slight correction to data i forwarded.
Peter Toner's wife was Nancy McGee not Mary. Mary McCarron was her mother's
maiden name.
Nancy's father Philip McGee was married 3 times. Mary Mc Carron was his 3rd wife.
I still have not met with the compiler of the above data yet, but will let you know.
Catherine
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Thanks Catherine ;D
mab
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Rev James Toner in Fanad in 1901. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Fanavolty.htm
Ellen McGettigan living with her sister Grace Lafferty in Creeslough Town in 1911
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Thanks Derrylass.
mab
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Hi,
Civil Register of Births, Deaths and marriages held at St. Conal's Hospital, High Road, Ketterkenny, County Donegal held from about 1870. McGettigan lived all around Ballyshannon.
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Hi,
Civil Register of Births, Deaths and marriages held at St. Conal's Hospital, High Road, Ketterkenny, County Donegal held from about 1870. McGettigan lived all around Ballyshannon.
Haven't ever heard of hospital having BMD records- do you mean Letterkenny Civil Registration Office?
www.groireland.ie/registrars.htm
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Dear Aghadowney
Letterkenny Civil Registration Office is situated in the grounds of St. Conal's Hospital, High Rd., Letterkenny.
catherine
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Hi,
Did not have enough time to finish reply yesterday, you could try getting in touch with the Priest at St. Joseph's, The Rock, Ballyshannon, County Donegal. they should be able to give you some information about this. www.magheneparish.ie
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Hi all,
I have just come across this very relevant topic. My great, great, great grandparents were Mickey Beag McGinley and Susan Tonar. Thus, Tomby I would be so interested in the family tree that you have. Can you tell me anything more about them please?
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Dear Craggie,
Could you give me some more information as regards which line you are connected i.e. McGinly or Toner
Catherine
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its the McGinley side. my great-great grandmother would have been Susan McGinley (Micheal and Susan's daughter) and she married a Bernard McGinley who I have no information on. thanks
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Catherine, I meant to say that I have some information (well mostly names) back as far as Michael and Susan Toner, but would like to know more about their backgrounds
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Dear craggie
Michael McGinley's was known as Mickey Beag.
Father - Mickey Mor McGinley married Alice McDaid ( Devitt ) of Meenatinney
Grandfather Seamas Mc Ginley of Altinierin married Mary Quinn of Meenmore
Susan Toner
father Peter Toner of Kirkstown married Nancy McGee
Nancy McGee parents were Philip McGee and Mary Mc Carron ( his 3rd wife )
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Hi, While I don't have any specific information on recent Bonners, I was reading the 17th. century Irish life of Colm Cille last night and I happened on an interesting legend. I'm sure you know that the name Bonner (in the north of Ireland, anyway) is an anglicisation of the Irish Ó Cnáimhsigh. The word cnámh means bone. According to the account in the life of Colm Cille, the saint was once passing by an old tomb and saw the bones of a man called Connla the Smith, who had been dead for a long time. He rearranged the bones and prayed over them and they came back to life. This man then married and lived for over twenty years. He had children and his descendants are called the Clann Chnáimhsigh because they were descended from a man who had once been a pile of bones. I'm not suggesting it's true, of course, but it explains the name and what the Bonners in Donegal believed about their own origins. :)
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Thanks Seanod....my dad used to tell me a similar tale but I had completely forgotten about it :)
mab
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Hi I'm back. I wrote to you last April and I said my McGettigan's attended the funeral of Rev Toner.
I now have a new email address and I am in a better position to get down to looking for my ancestry.
I see nobody has come up with a connection of the Toners and McGettigans cousins.
I will be be in touch soon.
Geraldine. :D
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Welcome back Geraldine ;D
mab
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Dont know what happened but my error message states that body of message was left blank!! I will have to do it over again tomorrow.
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Would it be possible that the McGettigan link could be through Peter Toner's wife Brigid ? - parents of the Rev
James Toner of Drumoghill ?
If she were McGettigan her brothers children would be the McGettigan cousins mentioned in the newspaper article of the Rev. James's funeral.
just a thought!
Tomby
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Here I go again.
This is a very long reply, but,
I will tell you what I know about the McGettigans listed below.
I know I have no information on the Toners, but with the likes of HENRY, CATHERINE and others reading your page, they they might be able to help us put it together.
1) Cousin John McGettigan, Killymard.
His father was Thomas, they are from Ballyare, Kilmacrennan, wife unknown, was she a Toner a sister to the Mother or Father of James Toner?
They had about 11 children.
One of these children was John was my Great Grandfather. He was born in Ballyare, Kilmacrennan. Co. Donegal.
Born in 1839 died 1908.
Married Mary Dorrian of Drumlaghtafin in 1862, born 1842, died 1921. (her father was also a John).
They had 11 children. My grand father James born 1885 was the second youngest. The youngest Joe moved to Ballyshannon and had a shop there for many years.
John McG moved to Drumroosk, parish of Killymard, outside Donegal town.
Why did John move??
Looking at the Valuation for Drumroosk West in 1857 William McG was on the land. In 1860 Rev Fr. Thomas McG was in the next parish Haugh. In 1868 John McG is on the land.
He was also present at the death of a Charles McG, a widower, ages 91, a farmer of Drumroosk on 28 June 1869. Was he a relation, is that why he went to Drumroosk! Was Charles a brother of William?
2) Cousin Patrick McGettigan Killymard.
Son of John. Patrick inherited the farm in Drumroosk, from his father. Married twice, first wife and 2 of his children died in flu epidemic in March/April 1919.
He remarried and new wife, a yank, reared his two sons and a daughter. One son had the nickname of "Cisco".
3) Cousin Dan McGettigan Derry.
Brother of John. Living in Derry according to Census of 1901 and 1911. Bachelor. Cattle Dealer. Sister Nelly/Ellen living with him. (The age discrepancy is huge over the ten years for both of them.)
4) Cousin Mick McGettigan Derry.
Maybe a nephew of John, son of his brother Neil. The only information I have on him is he owned a pub in Derry. Lived in 1 Anne St. Married a woman called Josephine. A still born baby died 29 Oct 1930. Michael died aged 56 in 1939.
5) Cousin Neal McGettigan Derry.
Neil McG brother of John. Married Mary Ann Devlin. He had land, I think through his wife in Ballymagowan and Creggan, Derry.
They had 4 children. Thomas, had a chemist shop in Strabane. Michael had a Public House in Bishop St Derry. Fannie did not marry, lived in 15 Chamberland St. Derry.
Annie married John Doherty they had 11 children. None married. She got land from her father.
6) Cousin Pat McGettigan Ballarr.
Brother of John. Known as Big Pat, he married Susan Boyce. They had 7 children, this family is still in Ballyare to this day. One of his daughters Maggie, born 1897 married a Peter McMonaglel of Letterkenny. They had 7 children a boy called James McM was born Sep 1918 he was reared by Annie McMahon a sister of Maggie.
7) Cousin Fanny McGettigan Donegal.
A single daughter of John McG. Would have reared my Father Vincent and his brother Charles in The Mullens. Donegal Town. There mother, Tamar Gold, died on the birth of her 6th child. (big story her).
8) Cousin Nelly McGettigan Drumoghill.
Sister of John. See no. 3.
9) Cousin Mrs. Gallagher Drumbologne.
No information. But why is she included among the McG's?
10) Cousin Bridget McGettigan Killymard.
Daughter of John. Same info as no. 7.
11) Cousin Mrs. Lafferty Creeslough.
Daughter of John. Grace married Daniel, postmaster in Creeslough. Her sister Nellie was living with them according to census of 1911.
I hope you were able to keep up with all of this. If you have any questions or information please contact us.
GERGER.
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8 Nelly would appear to be a dau of John - she was the housekeeper of Rev Toner and was with him in Fanavolty in 1901 and would have moved with him when he went to Drumoghill Parish. She was with her sister Grace in 1911 as you say.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Fanavolty.htm
Susan McGinley dau of Michael McGinley and Susan Toner married 1. Bernard McGinley, Drumbologe. 2. William Gallagher - she was likely Mrs Gallagher Drumbologe
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Mrs Gallagher( Susan ) from Drumbologe record is correct.
Her mother Susan Toner to my knowledge had only one sister , Mary, whom I have previously mentioned .
She married Hudie McDevitt.
If that is the case your great great grandfather Thomas's wife could not have been Toner.
If I get time this week I might do a check to see if there are any baptismal records on Peter Toner and Brigid's ? children.
I have to commend you Gerger on your work on the McGettigan's it was very interesting.
CATHERINE
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Derrylass and Catherine.
Thank you.
Why did Fr Toner in the 1901 census not say Ellen was related?
I see when she was with her sister Grace Lafferty in census of 1911 she was not mentioned either as sister in law to head of house, but, general servant.
Poor woman.
I will try and get a birth record for Ellen just to make sure she is mine.
I see Mary Toner moved in with another brother by 1911 and two McMonagle nephews are living in the same house.
I'm sorry I cannot remember the story of My Mc Mononagle's, but there was a second marriage, Drogheda and America mentioned.
I have been collecting my info since 1990. But I do not think I will ever get back to ADAM. GERGER.
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IGI index - John McGettigan and Mary Dorrian, Drumroosk, Killymard
Daniel b. Apr 14 1867 Ellen b. May 18 1869 Charles b. Apr 20 1871
Patrick b. Jul 12 1872 Bridget b. Jul 11 1876 Francis b. June 29 1879
Susan Toner in 1901
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Glencarscotch.htm
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Thank you. Big age difference in birth and census for Ellen!!
GERGER.
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When I posted the obituary details for James Toner I never really thought I'd get a response but I am amazed that so many people have chosen to become involved. Thank you very much.
It goes to show that each of us has a detail of information that if given will help in someone's research.
I have two more obituaries from the very kind researcher in Letterkenny and I'll just add them to the mix.
1) Rev. Patrick McDevitt P.P. d. September 1913
Chief mourners:
Mrs. Houston, Kirkstown (sister)
Mr. Neil Toner, Letterkenny (nephew)
Mrs. Toner, Letterkenny (niece)
Mr. Hugh McKendrick, Kirkstown (nephew)
Mrs. McCarry, Hotel, Letterkenny (cousin)
Kate Harkin, Ellen Harkin and Annie M. Heaver, Kirkstown (nieces)
Peter Toner, Kirkstown (nephew)
2) Rev. Peter McDevitt P.P. Carrick d. 25 Oct 1905
Messrs. Jas. and Michael McDevitt, Glenswilly (brothers)
Miss M.E. McDevitt (niece)
Hugh, Peter and Michael McDevitt (nephews)
Rev. Jas. Toner C.C. Drumoghill (cousin)
The funerals for James, Peter and Patrick were mega huge affairs. There were so many members of the clergy that it was overkill. I didn't realize that the Catholic Church was so political in the day but I guess they were. There are I'm sure some significant political people who attended all three funerals.
mab
Interestingly enough P.T. (Peter Toner) McGinley was at all three funerals. If you don't know who he is...google ;D
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gerger
Do you know where Grace Mcgettigan (m Daniel Lafferty) was in 1901. Her location may be another clue
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There is a Grace McGettigan who is a boarder in the household of Paul Dunleavy, Glenties Town (Gortnamucklagh Portion).
There is a note under the Lafferty family of Creeslough that she was from Drumroosk, Killymard.
mab
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Grace was born in Drumroosk, 1883.
I don't know where Grace was in 1901.
When you say Grace was a boarder with Paul Dunleavy, I presume that was 1901.
Gerger.
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Yes 1901.
mab
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I had a look, and thanks to you I think I also found her brother. Thomas, a boarder aged 21 and a railway porter. He married a local girl Mary Gallagher from Kilraine. Had three children and died in 1907. His father mentioned him in his will of July 07, when he was leaving five pounds each to the 4 of them. She moved back to parents for 1911 census. Gerger.
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Excellent ;D
mab
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Did a search for baptismal records for children Peter Toner and Brigid ? Letterkenny
The majority of baptismal records only start from 1867. However they did find 3 records for children - parents Peter Toner - Biddy Park/Parke
Peter Baptised 22 Feb. 1854
Neal Baptised 13 Oct. 1861
3rd name illegible 1856
district not given only Letterkenny
noticed no Parke mentioned in any of previous relatives, so none the wiser!!
Tomby
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Thanks. I came across the surname Park a long time ago. Will have to go back on notes. Gerger.
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Some data on Peter Toner and wife Bridget ( Parke ? )
Peter was 76 when he died 1899 therefore year of birth 1822/1823
Bridget was 75 when she died 1899 " " " 1814/1815
Their son Peter was 75 when he died 1930 " " 1854/1855 Corresponds with baptism record.
According to the Griffith Evaluation 1857 in the townland of Ballymacool (known as Upper Ballymacool today) James Parke leased land from Boyds.
The land was adjacent to Kirkstown and in close proximity to the Toners. ( check "Ask about Ireland website)
check Lindel Donegal resourses 1841/1851 pension records for James Parke, Ballymacool ( perhaps brother of Bridget Parke !! )
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/conwalcensearch.htm
One last thing the Parkes were Church of Ireland/Presbyterians and the Toners were Catholics.
tomby
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Thanks again. That will take some sorting out in my mind.
GerGer
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Rev. Patrick McDevitt P.P. d. September 1913
Chief mourners:
Mrs. Houston, Kirkstown (sister)
Neil Houston and Ellen McDevitt - Kirkstown
Kate Harkin, Ellen Harkin
Children of Patrick Harkin and Catherine McDevitt - Gortnacorrib
Her mother Susan Toner to my knowledge had only one sister , Mary, whom I have previously mentioned .
She married Hudie McDevitt
Where did Hudie live ? Perhaps this is the McDevitt connection
There are no Parkes on 1878 Protestant census for Letterkenny
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Re: the Harkins from Gortnacorrib
My Bonner family is from Gortnacorrib. My Great Grandfather Alexander Bonner married Bridget Toner. She is James Toner's sister.
She is at James Toner's funeral along with some of her children.
mab
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only information that I had on the McDevitts
Mary Toner married Hudie McDevitt
Son James, he had 2 children Annie and Tommy.
I did a search on Lindel site and found a census record Ballygallan,parish of Conwal
which gives a James McDevitt wife Bridget Toner ( toner just a coincidence I think, lots of Toners around Conwal and Glenswilly)), children Patrick, Connel, Thomas and Annie
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Ballygallan.htm
Also found some other Children
igi index ; Peter McDevitt 20th May 1873 parents James McDevitt, Bridget Toner
see baptisms, James, John and Mary Ellen McDevitt
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Ballygallan.htm
Rev. Peter McDevitt P.P. Carrick d. 25 Oct 1905
Miss M.E. McDevitt (niece)
Peter McDevitt(nephew)
I must also state also that eventhough I am only aware of 2 siblings of Peter Toner i.e. Susan and Mary
it doesn't rule out that he may have had other siblings.
tomby
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sorry put in wrong link for baptism records in previous post
correct link
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/glenswillyrcb.htm
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Thank Tomby ;D
I'm beginning to get the Bridget Toners and the Peter Toners mixed up :o :P ::)
mab
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will try to explain
Kirkstown Toners
1. Susan Toner married Mickey beag McGinley
children - Alice,
2. Peter Toner married Bridget ? Parke ( your great great grandparents)
children Susan, Anne, Peter, Francis, James ( priest ) Mary, Bridget ( your great grandmother) Neil.
3. Mary married Hudie Mcdevitt.
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Sorry accidently posted message by mistake without completing it
Kirkstown Toners ( only know the following 3 )
1. Susan Toner married Mickey beag McGinley
children - Alice, Annie, Maire, Mick, Pat, Peter(P.T.) Jimmy, Bridget, Susan, Cornelius
2. Peter Toner married Bridget ? Parke ( your great great grandparents)
children Susan, Anne, Peter, Francis, James ( priest ) Mary, Bridget ( your great grandmother), Neil.
3. Mary Toner married Hudie McDevitt.
son James married a Bridget Toner ( probably Glenswilly Toners)
Tomby
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forthefamily
I forgot to include the parents of the above 3 Kirkstown Toners
Peter Toner and Nancy McGee ( mentioned already in a previous post )
I hope this data has made things clearer
Tomby
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James McDevitt and Bridget Toner are in Ballygallan in 1901 and 1911
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Ballygallan.htm
According to 1911 census they had 10 children all of whom were alive in 1911
Mary Ellen married John McDevitt Edencarnan
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IGI index Corneilus McMonagle and Susan Toner
Edward b. Oct 6 1879
Susan , a widow, is on Glencar Scotch 1901 census.
Corneilus Jnr. immigrated 1907 to his sister Mary in Philadelphia
Just as an FYI
Peter and Cornelius emigrated together to the USA. They can be found on a passenger listing for the Columbia that arrived in New York on December 30, 1907.
Cornelius was age 20 - Barman
Peter was age 25 - Labourer
Their contact in Ireland was James McMonagle, Glencar, Letterkenny, Co. Donegal.
Their sister Mary McMonagle was living at 2312 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
I also found a possible match for Edward McMonagle in the 1901 Scotch census:
Edward McMonagle
age 22
abt 1879
Boarder
25 Warwick Street, Gorbals, Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Occupation: Tramway Car Driver
mab
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Just came across this info
this link gives information is to gerger's mcGettigans Ballyarr 1841, 1851 census.
http://www.movillerecords.com/census_1841_m_to_o.html
catherine
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Hello,
I know a lot of info.has being exchanged.
However it might be useful to note that there is a genealogy centre for Donegal.
It is Donegal Ancestry Ltd,The Quay, Ramelton,Co.Donegal.
Tel. code + 74 915 1266
This is within a few miles of Letterkenny.
Drumrooske,mentioned in one of the messages is a townland in the parish of Killymard,adjacent to Donegal Town,about 30 miles south of Letterkenny.
Maura
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Have you seen the fees they charge? (please don't click on the link if you have a weak heart as the shock might be too much!)
http://www.donegalancestry.com/tracing_ancestors.php?PHPSESSID=754f685fc22a35ec1f7fb6d58b7bfd72#costs
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When I posted the obituary details for James Toner I never really thought I'd get a response but I am amazed that so many people have chosen to become involved. Thank you very much.
It goes to show that each of us has a detail of information that if given will help in someone's research.
I have two more obituaries from the very kind researcher in Letterkenny and I'll just add them to the mix.
1) Rev. Patrick McDevitt P.P. d. September 1913
Chief mourners:
Mrs. Houston, Kirkstown (sister)
Mr. Neil Toner, Letterkenny (nephew)
Mrs. Toner, Letterkenny (niece)
Mr. Hugh McKendrick, Kirkstown (nephew)
Mrs. McCarry, Hotel, Letterkenny (cousin)
Kate Harkin, Ellen Harkin and Annie M. Heaver, Kirkstown (nieces)
Peter Toner, Kirkstown (nephew)
2) Rev. Peter McDevitt P.P. Carrick d. 25 Oct 1905
Messrs. Jas. and Michael McDevitt, Glenswilly (brothers)
Miss M.E. McDevitt (niece)
Hugh, Peter and Michael McDevitt (nephews)
Rev. Jas. Toner C.C. Drumoghill (cousin)
The funerals for James, Peter and Patrick were mega huge affairs. There were so many members of the clergy that it was overkill. I didn't realize that the Catholic Church was so political in the day but I guess they were. There are I'm sure some significant political people who attended all three funerals.
mab
Interestingly enough P.T. (Peter Toner) McGinley was at all three funerals. If you don't know who he is...google ;D
forthefamily,
Do you know what was the relation between the 2 Mc Devitt Priests?
tomby
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Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. My hard drive crashed and I'm just getting myself sorted and back on line.
I'm afraid I don't know the relationship between the two as I haven't done any research on the McDevitts. However, I am sure that eventually someone will turn up that can answer your question.
My original post was from December 2007 and it seems to get added on to as new members join Rootschat or someone Googles and finds the thread.
Regards,
mab
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gerger
Do you know where Grace Mcgettigan (m Daniel Lafferty) was in 1901. Her location may be another clue
All,
I thinks Grace McGettigan was actually in Tyrone in 1901 (see link attached).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Six_Mile_Cross/Six_Mile_Cross_Town/1749796/
She's a direct ancestor of mine but I've no idea where the Toner link comes in.
Regards
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Grace was born in Drumroosk, 1883.
I don't know where Grace was in 1901.
When you say Grace was a boarder with Paul Dunleavy, I presume that was 1901.
Gerger.
Gerger,
It was great to see your info earlier on the McGettigan line. Grace McGettigan is my direct ancestor and I'd be interested to know where you located all the dates regarding her parents and where they originally came from.
Also, do you have any old photos of this line of the family? I've only one photo of Grace and a poor one at that.
Regards
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Well who are you? Grace would have been my great grand Aunt. I have been doing this research for years and have quite a lot of paper. I never knew where Grace was until I received an email (see below) on this site suggesting she was in Glenties. I think I got the information on Donegal free genealogy web page. There was also a man in the town called Thomas Mc Gettigan, a railway porter, lodging with Mary Hannigan. She had a brother with this position, so I never looked anywhere else. On the census he is listed as Thos McGettigan, aged 21. I have his marriage cert for April 17th 1901, where his age is 27 !!!
Also their two witness Denis and Mary Anne Maguire appear on the 1901 census as aged 20 and 13 !!!
Do let me know the connection please. I have no photographs,
GERALDINE.
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Geraldine,
Thanks for your message. Grace Lafferty (McGettigan) was my Great Grandmother. She died in 1964 and there are several people alive who remember her quite well. I'm sure that the Grace McGettigan recorded as being in Tyrone in 1901 is her (see earlier link). The age matches, she's recorded as being from Donegal and her occupation is a telegraph clerk which corresponds with her later occupation. This was how she met here husband (through the post office).
It'd be great if you could send me as much information as you could on the McGettigan line. I've newspaper obituaries for Grace that I could send you as well.
You might advise how I could correspond with you. I'm just a bit apprehensive about giving personal info on a public notice board.
Regards
Aidan
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dear mab
Slight correction to data i forwarded.
Peter Toner's wife was Nancy McGee not Mary. Mary McCarron was her mother's
maiden name.
Nancy's father Philip McGee was married 3 times. Mary Mc Carron was his 3rd wife.
I still have not met with the compiler of the above data yet, but will let you know.
Catherine
Hi Catherine
You mentioned that Philip McGee was married 3 times....does the tree give the names of his other 2 wives?
mab ;D
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Hi I am still studing this list, can anyone tell me about Mrs Gallagher from DRUMBOLOGE. why can I not find this townland in Dongal?
Gerger
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The correct spelling I believe is Drumbuloge.
Here is a link to the 1901 census.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Drumbuloge.htm
mab
added: I typed exactly what was in the photcopy of the newspaper that was faxed to me and it was extremely difficult to read. My typo I guess ::)
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Susan Mc Ginley ( daughter of Susan Toner and Mickey Beag mc Ginley) married twice
1st husband Bernard McGinley as in 1901 census
2nd husband William Gallagher
link to 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Templedouglas/Drumbologe/497613/
Forthfamily
I do not know the names of Philip McGee's other wives
The only data that I have is that there was a Mary McGee who married John Woods Bogagh Raphoe.. Mary was related to Philip McGee from his 1st or 2nd marriage, possibly granddaughter or ggrandaughter. Mary and John had a daughter Elizabeth who married P.T. Mc Ginley( son of Susan Toner and Mickey beag McGinley.
This being the case it means that P.T and Elizabeth were related, may look something like below
( 1) or ( 2) marriage = Philip Mc Gee = ( 3 ) Mary McCarron
Mcgee Nancy Mcgee = Peter Toner
Mary McGee = John woods Susan Toner = Mickey Beag McGinley
Elizabeth Woods = P.T. McGinley P.T.McGinley = Elizabeth woods
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Thanks Tomby. I was just curious about the other wives as I received this bit of info recently.
Philip McGee m. Unknown had Neal who had Dermott who had Mary who m. John Woods who had Elizabeth Woods.....who married P.T.
mab
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i would be very interested if anyone is able to make a connection between Rev. peter mcdevitt d.1905 and rev. patrick mcdevitt d.1913 or knows of the name of the townland of the birth of either and or the their parents names.
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you may be interested in Michael mcgettigan keadue upper, clogher 4 miles east of donegal town who was sub postmaster there in 1911 census.my interest is in the mcgettigans long established in the parish of killymard and donegal who seem to carry forward the same male first names as in north donegal - edward,hugh,daniel/dennis and patrick.
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Haven't re-read through this thread so apologies if I'm repeating details already posted.
PRONI has details in their Will extracts but there might be family details listed in the actual Wills which would be available for viewing at PRONI- see www.proni.gov.uk
"Probate of the Will of The Reverend Peter M'Devitte late of Carrick County Donegal Parish Priest who died 25 October 1905 granted at Londonderry to The Reverend Christopher Cunningham and The Reverend Hugh M'Dwyer Catholic Curates."
"Probate of the Will of The Reverend Patrick McDevitt late of Raphoe County Donegal P. P. who died 2 September 1913 granted at Londonderry to William Kelly Solicitor and Neil Toner Victualler"
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With reference to the Original Post,
I think P.T. McGinley is author and Senator Peadar Toner Mac Fhionnlaoich.
Wikipedia gives some info about his family - though you'd need to double-check everything in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peadar_Toner_Mac_Fhionnlaoich
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Sorry...for some reason I didn't get an email notice of your post:)
Peter Toner McGinley aka Peadar Mac Fhionnghaile aka "Cu Uladh" which was his pen name.
He was a politician and a writer. He is related to me through the Toner family and is my 1st cousin 3x removed. His mother Susan Toner was the sister of my Great Great Grandfather Peter Toner.
He was a Senator as you have mentioned:)
House: 3rd Seanad
Period: 07 September 1938 – 14 July 1943 (he died in 1942 while in office)
Seats: 60
Constituency: Nominated by the Taoiseach
House: 2nd Seanad
Period: 27 April 1938 – 22 July 1938
Seats: 60
Constituency: Nominated by the Taoiseach
mab
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Please read thread no 42. Are you related to these McGettigans?
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Craggie
My great great great grandparents were also Susan Toner and Mickey Beag McGinley.
My great great grandmother was Annie McGinley (sister of Susan (aka Shana) McGinley) and she married Edward Gallagher of Glendowen.
I may have some information on your great great grandfather Bernard McGinley (Susan's husband) that I just have to double check before writing on this forum.
EMS
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Hello EMS
No one has replied to you but they may be like me and didn't get an email notice when you left your message. I just happened to look at this post to check something today and noticed it.
I think you and I may have just communicated on Ancestry about Annie McGinley:)
mab
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The parents of Rev Peter d. 1905 are Hugh McDevitt and Mary Toner . If you message me please, you and I have corresponded before and are related.
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Hello triathlon
Who are you leaving this message for as there are quite a few people contributing to this thread?
mab
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Apologies Doon 66 asked in a previous post.
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Thank you :)
Just wanted to make it clear. The reason I asked was because Mary Toner was my 2nd great grand aunt.
mab
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Hello! Brand new user, so I hope I'm doing this right!!
I have Father Patrick McDevitt in my tree. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Gortnacorrib.htm
Here he is in the 1901 census. Anyone who has any info on any of the people mentioned; Patrick Harkin, Catherine McDevitt or their children especially Mary Anne Harkin who married Domnick McDermott I'd be ever so grateful! Areas - Kilmacrenan, Glenkeo, Gortnacorrib.
Thank you! :)
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Welcome ClarHa
I think you came to the right place. Hopefully someone who has posted on this topic will be able to help you:)
mab
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CarHa hello
how are the mcDEvitts related to you. can you go back further. McDevitts are my family, traced back to late 17oos
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Thank you Mabs ;D
Triathlon - Catherine McDevitt (married to Patrick Harkin) was my great great grandmother. I have her brother and sister and think her father was Rodger? That's about it on the McDevitt side!
Do you have a connection to them? Many thanks for your reply :)
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Triathalon
Have just realised that I have a McDaid on my Great Great Grandfather's side as well, and as I've realised it's often used as McDevitt too ???!
I'm looking for Patrick McDermott c1838 and his wife Rose McDaid c1840 from Glenket, Edenacarnan. I have them in the 1901 census and have Patrick in the 1911, but not Rose. Interestingly they have a Bridget Bonnar age 11 living with them as "farm servant" and this name also seems to be in this thread!
Their children: Domnick McDermott 1871-1959, Hanna Mary McDermott 1874, Bridget McDermott 1878, Grace McDermott c1883 and Margaret McDermott 1887.
Any of these ring any bells?! I'd be so grateful for any leads, I think I've hit the dreaded brick wall as regards records due to fire! With many thanks :)
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Clarha:)
Not relevant to your inquiry above but every time you turn around in this area someone seems to be connected....:)
My Bonners lived in Gortnacorrib up until 1879-1880ish. They moved to Londonderry after that.
My great grandfather Alexander Bonner was married to Bridget Toner of Kirkstown in 1872. His father was John Bonner and her dad was Peter Toner.
Bridget Toner mentioned above had a connection to Catherine McDevitt (married to Partrick Harkin of Gortnacorrib) through marriage. Her brother Neal Toner married Bridget Houston whose parents were Neil Houston and Ellen McDevitt.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Kirkstown.htm#Neil_Houston_and_Ellen
There were also other Bonner families living there.
James Bonner who was married to Bridget Coyle in 1874. His father was James Bonner and her dad was Neil Coyle.
I also found a birth of a John Bonner born 1862 in Gortnacorrib whose parents were Patrick and Elizabeth Bonner.
The only Bonner left in 1901 was Bridget Bonner formerly Coyle. I don't know where her children went. They seemed to have disappeared.
mab
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Hi Mabs,
I am interest in your Bonner family. How far back have you gone?
I am looking for some Bonner family born from 1781 to 1786??
I was a little dishearten when I found out my ancestor was Irish not because he was from Ireland but because how difficult it is to find them in the 18th and 19th century.
Thanks :)
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Hi Siam01
Not very far back I'm afraid.....1858 in the Griffiths.
My Bonners are from a place called Gortnacorrib and while I've identified Bonners that lived there they are not there when the 1901 census was taken with the exception of one who is not related to me. I did find out the other day that her son went to Scotland. It makes it difficult to figure out who is related to who:)
My great grandfather Alexander Bonner and his family went to Derry around 1880 and after that I can find them.
I don't think my Bonners actually came from the area originally. I think they may have come from the north as that is where a lot of Bonners reside.
mab
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Hi Mab,
Thank you for your prompt reply.
It was worth a try. The Bonner's I am looking were from Londonderry area but unfortunately I don't know the parish which makes it hard. So I am now trying to find others who have Bonner's in their family tree to see if the may have the names I am looking and if they were able to go that far back to the 18th and 19th century.
Best of luck on your search.
Thanks again. :)
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Hi I would like to raise again the McDevitt/Toner/Harkin/Huston/Boner families of Kirkstown and adjacent townlands. My ancestor Roger McDevitt of Kirkstown would appear to have children Catherine McDevitt married to Neil Huston: Ellen McDevitt married Patrick Harkin of Glenacorrib, Susannah McDevitt. Roger had a son Patrick.
A daughter of Catherine McDevitt and Neil Huston- Bridget Huston married to Neil Toner of Kirkstown.
Does this strike a cord with anyone ?
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Hello...welcome to Rootschat
I can add one thing.
Patrick Harkin of Gortnacorrib (father Neil Harkin) married Catherine McDevitt of Kirkstown (father Rodger McDeviitt) on 02 Feb 1876. The record on Rootireland says that he married Mary McDeviit but that is incorrect as there is a scan of the original church record at this link. See household 1 notes.
http://donegalgenealogy.com/1901Gortnacorrib.htm
Mab
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I had a look, and thanks to you I think I also found her brother. Thomas, a boarder aged 21 and a railway porter. He married a local girl Mary Gallagher from Kilraine. Had three children and died in 1907. His father mentioned him in his will of July 07, when he was leaving five pounds each to the 4 of them. She moved back to parents for 1911 census. Gerger.
I'm their great grandchild. My grandfather John was the their son. Any info about relative would be great. Thank you, KevinMc
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I am the great grandson of Thomas McGettigan and Mary Gallagher McGettigan, my grandfather was their son John. Great to see some of this information on these posts, if you have more please share!
Thanks, KevinMc
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Thomas and Mary McGettigan would be my great grandparents, my grandfather was their son John.
KevinMc
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These are my McGettigan's, John and Mary Dorrian would be my great great grand parents.
KevinMc
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Welcome to Rootschat KevinMc
This post seems to go on and on :) I don't think we ever did find out why the McGettigans were at my great great uncle's funeral or how they are related. However did you see Gerber's post below?
Here I go again.
This is a very long reply, but,
I will tell you what I know about the McGettigans listed below.
I know I have no information on the Toners, but with the likes of HENRY, CATHERINE and others reading your page, they they might be able to help us put it together.
1) Cousin John McGettigan, Killymard.
His father was Thomas, they are from Ballyare, Kilmacrennan, wife unknown, was she a Toner a sister to the Mother or Father of James Toner?
They had about 11 children.
One of these children was John was my Great Grandfather. He was born in Ballyare, Kilmacrennan. Co. Donegal.
Born in 1839 died 1908.
Married Mary Dorrian of Drumlaghtafin in 1862, born 1842, died 1921. (her father was also a John).
They had 11 children. My grand father James born 1885 was the second youngest. The youngest Joe moved to Ballyshannon and had a shop there for many years.
John McG moved to Drumroosk, parish of Killymard, outside Donegal town.
Why did John move??
Looking at the Valuation for Drumroosk West in 1857 William McG was on the land. In 1860 Rev Fr. Thomas McG was in the next parish Haugh. In 1868 John McG is on the land.
He was also present at the death of a Charles McG, a widower, ages 91, a farmer of Drumroosk on 28 June 1869. Was he a relation, is that why he went to Drumroosk! Was Charles a brother of William?
2) Cousin Patrick McGettigan Killymard.
Son of John. Patrick inherited the farm in Drumroosk, from his father. Married twice, first wife and 2 of his children died in flu epidemic in March/April 1919.
He remarried and new wife, a yank, reared his two sons and a daughter. One son had the nickname of "Cisco".
3) Cousin Dan McGettigan Derry.
Brother of John. Living in Derry according to Census of 1901 and 1911. Bachelor. Cattle Dealer. Sister Nelly/Ellen living with him. (The age discrepancy is huge over the ten years for both of them.)
4) Cousin Mick McGettigan Derry.
Maybe a nephew of John, son of his brother Neil. The only information I have on him is he owned a pub in Derry. Lived in 1 Anne St. Married a woman called Josephine. A still born baby died 29 Oct 1930. Michael died aged 56 in 1939.
5) Cousin Neal McGettigan Derry.
Neil McG brother of John. Married Mary Ann Devlin. He had land, I think through his wife in Ballymagowan and Creggan, Derry.
They had 4 children. Thomas, had a chemist shop in Strabane. Michael had a Public House in Bishop St Derry. Fannie did not marry, lived in 15 Chamberland St. Derry.
Annie married John Doherty they had 11 children. None married. She got land from her father.
6) Cousin Pat McGettigan Ballarr.
Brother of John. Known as Big Pat, he married Susan Boyce. They had 7 children, this family is still in Ballyare to this day. One of his daughters Maggie, born 1897 married a Peter McMonaglel of Letterkenny. They had 7 children a boy called James McM was born Sep 1918 he was reared by Annie McMahon a sister of Maggie.
7) Cousin Fanny McGettigan Donegal.
A single daughter of John McG. Would have reared my Father Vincent and his brother Charles in The Mullens. Donegal Town. There mother, Tamar Gold, died on the birth of her 6th child. (big story her).
8) Cousin Nelly McGettigan Drumoghill.
Sister of John. See no. 3.
9) Cousin Mrs. Gallagher Drumbologne.
No information. But why is she included among the McG's?
10) Cousin Bridget McGettigan Killymard.
Daughter of John. Same info as no. 7.
11) Cousin Mrs. Lafferty Creeslough.
Daughter of John. Grace married Daniel, postmaster in Creeslough. Her sister Nellie was living with them according to census of 1911.
I hope you were able to keep up with all of this. If you have any questions or information please contact us.
GERGER.
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Gerger are you still around??? I hope so. The mystery of the Mcgettigans may be solved.
On Ancestry there was a 1841/51 census abstract with your John McGetiigan's family in Ballyarr Glebe. It relates to a pension claim made by John's sister Ellen. It states that their parents were Thomas McGettigan and Anne Park.
According to the census Anne McGettigan nee Park was born about 1816ish. My 2nd great grandmother Bridget Park was born about 1814ish.
Sisters perhaps....some sort of relationship must exist for the McGettigans to be cousins don't you think ??? If they are sisters then Anne would be my 3rd great aunt.
mab ;D
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Well I went away for quite some time. It is amazing what lock down has brought me back to.
So delighted to see all the messages I have been missing.
I do hope Kevin and MAB, are still out there.
Gerger.
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Hello Gerger
Still around :)
mab
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It turns out that the Anne Park that was married to Thomas McGettigan that I mentioned in my last post was my 2nd great aunt. I have two DNA matches to descendants of their daughter Margaret McGettigan who married a Patrick James Dorrian in 1877 :)
mab
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Still around!
Thomas McGettigan and Anne Park McGettigan are my Great great great grandparents.
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Thank you so much for getting back to me. I will get the old paper work out this evening. It is the only way I can follow all the generations. I am also going to read over all the emails again.
Gerger.
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Is doon66 still out there?
I would like to discuss the Mc Gettigans of killymard.
Gerger.
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Hello Kevin :)
My 2nd great grandmother was Bridget Park and Anne was her sister. The Parks came form Kirkstown near Letterkenny. I have been told...not proven...that their father was a James Parke.
mab
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Hi cousins, Great to hear from you, I would also think Anne Park and William were my great great grand parents. They had 12 children and son John who married Mary Dorrian are my great grand parents. Have you ever visite Ballyarr?
I have been working on this for most of the afternoon. I also have a typed page of the pension enquiry for Ellenor, but no where does it say, Park. But I met a retired schoolteacher many years ago in Mountcharles who mentioned this surname. I cannot remember who she was. (Maybe she was a Dorrian.)
I came across the following in the Tithes Books.
Ballyare, (Tullyfern) Co Donegal.
His father born 1770 William is our 3 GGG gf.
In 1830 He held 14 Acres 2 Roods 4 Perches. Value 6pounds, 7shillings 8pence.
The tithes to be paid to local Clergyman for the tithes claimed by him as rector of the Parish for at least 21 years from 1825. Act of English Parliment in the reign of \King George 111.
Land then passed on to Thomas McGettigan. The lessor was Thomas Patterson. They now had 19 Acres 2Roods 38 Perches. Value 7pounds 5shillings. March 1858.
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Hello cousin :)
I don't know if I can post a pic of the info I mean but maybe just a part of it ?
mab
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Have you ever visite Ballyarr?
No I have never had the opportunity to visit Ireland :(
I have John McGettigan and Mary Dorrian on my tree. John shows up as my 1st cousin 3xs removed.
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Hello Gerger
I was supposed to visit this past June but Covid ruined the trip. Which of John and Mary’s children is you grandparent? My great grandfather was their son Thomas who marries Mary Gallagher. My grandfather was their first born John.
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Thank you for that part of the photo showing name.
Wonder why the year is 1831. I thought they only searched the records of 41 and 51 as they want to prove age of claimant to be 70 in 1910.
And there is only 10 years in the age of the children.
I am so delighted to get proof of the Park surname.
Now back to the Toners!!!
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Hi Kevin, sorry you did not make it over last year, it could be 2022 before you get here.
I am going to look into your John McGettigan, but not tonight, even though I do not think I have much. I am near exhausted after todays marathon of sorting out a lot of paper work and trying to get my head around the family connections.
My grand father was James born 1886, second last child of John and Mary.
Gerger
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Wonder why the year is 1831.
That excerpt is on page 11 and if you go back to page 1 it gives you headers for each column. So 1831 indicates year of marriage.
I sent you a PM.
mab
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Hi Gerger,
I have all the info about my grandfather John. He came to the states in 1929 and my Nan and their son John followed in 1930, they had seven more children here one being my father Thomas who passed away this past April at 79.
Thanks
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Hello!
I have several McGettigan's and Dorrians in my tree. I also have several DNA matches to McGettigan. I also have Parkes, as someone mentioned in this thread.
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Hello Annie
Welcome to Rootschat :)
What company did you use for your DNA testing? I originally used Ancestry but have loaded my DNA onto Gedmatch, MyHeritage and MyFTDNA.
mab
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Hi,
I think I just replied in a totally new thread!
Yes, I'm on Ancestry as well as Gedmatch.
Are you? Are we a match?