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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: D Sharpie on Tuesday 15 January 08 18:32 GMT (UK)
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Here's another little mystery to get your teeth into.......not on the epic scale of the marrage mystery but here goes........
My grandfather was born in 1902, Arthur Pilsworth, Thorne June qtr 9c 914.
His mother was unmarried at the time. She was 18. Her name was Hannah Mary Pilsworth, born dec qtr 1884 Thorne, 9c 765. What I wanted to know is, can you see any reference to her on any census? I would love to find out who her parents were, and who her brothers and sisters were. My grandad never knew his father but there was a rumour as to who it was......and his name was Arthur too....so did she name him after his dad or after her father as was tradition. She married a Henry Whitehead in 1904 but my grandad kept Pilsworth as his surname.
Thanks
Diane
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1901 - RG13/4417; Folio: 28; Page: 9. - Epworth parish, within Thorne District
High Street
Thomas Pilsworth 39 Head Farmer or Farrier ? (Employer)
Ann Pilsworth 45 Wife
Hannah M Pilsworth 16 dau
Thos W Pilsworth 13 son
Walter Pilsworth 8 son
all state born Epworth
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Thanks thats brill!!! I suppose we wont know if there were any more untill the 1910 census comes out will we. Is the High street in Epworth or Thorne do you know?
Diane x
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Hi ....
Here is a possbile...
RG12/3868 F 39 P 3
Epworth Lincs. The Turbary?
Thomas Pilsworth hd m 28 agricultural labourer Yorks Thorne
Ann wi m 32 Lincs Belton
HANNAH M DAU 6 Lincs Epworth
Thomas Wm son 3 Lincs Epworth.
Tazzie
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1891 shows same names (born pre-1891 !) and Thomas' occupation Ag Lab ...
RG12/3868; Folio 39; Page 3 Epworth, Lincs
The Turbary
Thomas Pilsworth 28 Head Ag Lab York, Thorne
Ann Pilsworth 32 Wife Lincs, Belton
Hannah M Pilsworth 6 dau Lincs, Epworth
Thomas Wm Pilsworth 3 son do
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Hi Diane - its Epworth - place and Parish I believe ..
Tazie - geroff ;)
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Newf - you please leave this to Tazzie :-* - 2 posts to go and I'm having a party 8)
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Hi and thanks thats brill!!!
These are on my mothers side and we never thought we would find anything!!! My granddad Pilsworth married Daisy Ingamells born june qtr 1902 thorne 9c 893. Her mum and dad were Elizabeth Ann hepworth born dec qtr 1874 Thorne, and Edward Cheavin Ingamells Born doncaster 1875. They married in june qtr 1901. Can you see anything for them, either Hepworths or Ingamells that would relate to this couple???
Thanks alot
Diane x
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Hannah's parents marriage....
Thomas Pilsworth Ann Cawkwell Thorne 1880 Q4
Tazzie
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over to you Tazzie !
3K approacheth 8)
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God this is B R I L L...... ;D
But....am off for a bath......BRB
Diane x :-*
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;D Ok then.....
Edward in 1901 ...... Hatfield Yorks Hatfield Woodhouse
RG13/4418 F 29 P 15
Harriet Ingamells hd w 53 famer Gosborton Lincs?
John R son u 31 farm lab ag lab Fishtoft
Edward C son u 25 d/o d/o Bawtry
Annie dau u 23 d/o
Tazzie
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Even more in 1891 ......
RG12/3869 F 28 P 11 Hill House Farm house.
Joseph Ingamells hd m 49 farmer
Harriet C wi m 45
Joseph W son u 22 farmers son Fishtoft
John R son u 21 ag lab d/o
Kate dau u 19 dressmaker d/o
Rose dau u 18 Grimsby
Lilly dau u 17 dressmakers ass d/o
EDWARD C SON U 16 AG LAB BAWTRY
Annie dau 14 d/o
Tazzie
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Whoohooo Tazzie !!! 8) 8) 8)
I thought you'd never get there! Do you have an actual life or what?! :P ;D
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Tati ....pot kettle black ;D Cheers dear ......
Elizabeth Hepworth in 1901 RG13/4418 F 24 P 5
Hatfield Yorks. Holin ? Bridge Farm house
George Hepworth hd m 64 farmer & steam threshing mach owner
Hatfield Woodhouse
Hannah wi m 62 Wadsworth
George son u 29 farm labourer for R Hatfield Woodhouse
Elizabeth A dau u 26 d/o
Annie E dau u 20 d/o
Kate dau u 10 d/o
Tazzie
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Joseph Ingamell marriage....
Joseph Ingamell to Harriet Cheavin Benton
1867 Boston Q4
Tazzie
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Give you something to work on when you come back .....
Let me know if any more...
Tazzie
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WOW that was worth gettin out the bath for!!!! Thanks alot.... ;D
Can you get back any further??? :o
Diane x
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Harriet Cheavin Benton in 1861 ....
RG9/2371 F 10 P 14 Boston Rd
William Benton hd w ? shoe maker (master ) Sibsey
Richard G u 18 d/o Gosberton
Harriet C u 16 d/o
Tazzie
Re checking his age ....
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Can you see her mother??? ::)
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His age must be wildly out ...looking for them in 1841/51...
however 2 little monkeys ready for bed so back in a mo...
Tazzie
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Bless........ I remember it well :-X
Can swop for 3 teenagers........ ::) But they Must take with them their mess and smelly trainers!!!! ;D
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Will Check back later as am being kicked off pc!!! :(
Is there any more on the Pilsworth side also?? And can you see anything for a family called Oliver??
Arthur Edwin Oliver was born Thorne 1885.......possible father (so rumour has it ;))
Thanks so much
Diane x
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Thomas & Ann Pilsworth in 1881...
John Thomas Pilsworth hd m 20 ag lab Thorne
Ann wi m 25 Belton
William Ward lodger u22 ag lab Epsworth
RG11/4697 F 18 P8 Warping Pits Hatfield
Tazzie
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His wife Ann in 1861 .....big families ... ;D
Westgate Belton.
Abraham Cawkwell hd 57 ag lab Belton
Maria wi 32 d/o
Michael son u 11 d/o
Wm son u 10 d/o
Alfred son u 9 d/o
Ann dau u 8 d/o
Elizh dau u 7 d/o
Abraham son u 5 d/o
John son u 3 d/o
Joseph brother 34 ag lab d/o
RG9/3523 F 73 P 31
Tazzie
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Abraham married Maria Theaker in 1849 Q2 Thorne.
Cannot see Arthur at moment..
Tazzie
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Hi thanks.....are there any family members past Thomas Pilworth?? Would be nice to follow the name further back.....
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No .... not that I can find at the moment.
Need to find if John Or Thomas and get a birth date for him .Might narrow the field abit.
Tazzie
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Hi am really struggling to find Thomas Pilsworth birth date.
Also, are there any records in census's about George Hepworth b c1837 Hatfield woodhouse? Also who he married?
Thanks
Diane x
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Hi is there any chance that this Pilsworth family could actually be the Pilsworth/Nicholson family??It seems that a Thomas Pilsworth Nicholson b1862 married an Ann Cawkwell b 1857 and they had a daughter called Hannah Mary Pilsworth Nicholson.....my great gran possibly....
His father Thomas Pilsworth (possibly) b1834 married Harriett Nicholson (possibly)
Is there any way anyone could check the cesus info to see if there was infact 2 seperate families in the SAME area at the SAME time?
Could this be why I cannot find any info on the birth of my Thomas Pilsworth??
Please help ???
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If Daisy Ingamells is still under investigation, where was she living in 1950's, it may jog my memory into action. Have vague recollections of name Daisy.
Can remember Herbert Rowley, Kate Rowley(nee Ingamells) and Rose Ingamells, they used to live on Balby Road, opposite the Co-op Laundry.
Kate & Rose eventually ended up in the workhouse. It wasn't called that when they were residents, but that was its original use.
Previous to that they lived lived a short distance away at 15 Lister Avenue, where Rose ran a shop.
There is ample evidence on the BBC that the shop continued to serve the local community with Arkwright (aka Ronnie Barker) and Granville (aka David Jason).
taking over. ( BBC TV Comedy "Open all Hours" location.)
Donnylad
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Same family. Daisy, my gran, lived in hatfield woodhouse and then dunscroft untill she died in 1983. :)
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Hi all, am bringing this old thread back to the fore as I am trying to fing out any siblings of my great great grandfather Thomas Pilsworth born 18th march 1862, epworth, married Ann Cawkwell in 1880.
Did Thomas Pilsworth (Nickolson) have any brothers or sisters? His parents were Thomas Pilsworth and harriet Nickolson.
Thanks in anticipation
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When I started Family History many years ago, my first enquiry was about Billy Pilsworth in Epworth. Fortunately I found some one who had known the family; they told me that though he was always known as Pilsworth, the official name in records and on gravestones was Nicholson. I nearly gave up Family History there and then! If things like that could happen there was no hope of success!
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Hello, D. Sharpie, I haven't quite sorted this out!
In 1871, Harriet Nicholson was housekeeper( unmarried ) to Thomas Pilsworth. She had children, Thomas, Ann, John, Hannah, Isaac.
Thomas and Harriet were married in 1871.
Thomas was born in 1834.
1881, Thomas Pilsworth, with step children Ann, Hannah, Isaac, Fred and Fred. Also children, Helen, Ernest, William, and Alfred. No entry for Harriet.
1891, Fred PILSWORTH
1900 Fred NICHOLSON married Alice Hobson.
1901 census, Fred PILSWORTH
1911 census Fred NICHOLSON
The children of Fred Nicholson were known locally as Pilsworths.
Over to you!