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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Karen Robertson on Wednesday 23 January 08 21:16 GMT (UK)
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Good Morning fellow keepers of the past.
I am hoping that someone may be able to assist me in breaking down a brick wall.
I have my 5x Great Grandpa who was sent out to Australia as Convict in 1827 on board the ship Cambridge. He was said to be a labourer. Born in Meath in 1801. His name is Denis Kilmurray.
He was tried at Trim on the 13th March 1827 for stealing a sheep (my very own Waltzing Matilda!)
I have previously been advised that apparently there was a name change (the person telling me this did not elaborate on why, or whether it was to Kilmurray from something else or from Kilmurray to whatever) I have noticed the variant spelllings of the name. I have also noticed a mass exodus of Kilmurray's to various parts of the world - Scotland, Argentina, the USA and a whole host to Australia.
But back to Denis...
His death cert gives no extra clues as to his origins. I also have a number of other Kilmurray convicts I am sure are related given the rarity of the name, but have thus far not been able to "prove" .
Hoping that someone can point me in the right direction.
Kaz
Collecting Kilmurray's Worldwide
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Hi! I see this is old but Denis is also an ancestor of mine, I’m fairly certain. Any chance you’ve made progress?
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Hi there
Good to meet another descendant.
How are you descended from our Denis?
In answer to your question, no, no progress has been made- yet!
It is really strange, a number of family have done DNA testing, but have not made it back past any of his offspring.
I am becoming more convinced than ever that there was a name change or mis transcription - because I simply cannot find the. Man anywhere but in Australia.
Keep in touch.
Karen
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My great grandmother was Vera May Kilmurray, her father was Edward Kilmurray who I’m fairly certain was the son of Denis - in Edwards obituary it says his father was Denis, but I’ve only just started looking into this branch of my family so haven’t found supporting documentation yet.
*all from the Hastings area - my mother grew up in Wauchope and Port Macquarie.
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I read Denis was a convict before I found this post, however I haven’t found him on any convict lists.
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Yes Edward was the son of Denis and Mary.
I have a tree on ancestry - public- if you want to have a look. Kaz_Robertson
Yes he was a convict, the name Kilmurray was spelt many different ways too-
He was on the Cambridge 1822.
Stole a sheep.
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Would you happen to have info on Edward perhaps?
I can’t find you on ancestry but i’m not super familiar with the site. I do have a tree on there, i’ll Have to find my username to give you.
If Denis is my 3rd great grandfather and your 5th, how related would we be?
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Hi
When was Denis on the Cambridge? Your last post states 1822, but you earlier stated:-
"He was tried at Trim on the 13th March 1827 for stealing a sheep"
Is there a Passenger List available and if so, what surname is used for Denis?
Cheers
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Hi LH
My apologies the 1822 was a typo. It is 1827!
;)
I have all his convict records and other info leaned from Australia, but nothing at all from Ireland.
Kaz
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if I have it correct we are third cousins - once removed.