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Would be grateful if you can find the following please:
1891 and 1901 census Mary E Varney born 1877 Billington, Beds
1891 Sarah J Varney born 1872 Billington.
1901 Sarah J Barker (Varney)born 1872 Billington
1901 Ellen Varney born 1883 Billignton
1901 William Varney born 1870 Billington
1901 Mary Emma Varney born 1877 Billington
Would like if poss addresses and other people at that address.
Many thanks
Carol
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Hi Carol
1901
Mary Emma Varney serv u/m 24 housemaid Beds Billington
In Westcombe House, which looks like a school
at Wallsville Road?Islington, London
Rg13/ 165
folio 7
page 6
ricky
PS
other people in the house are pupils and servants
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Hi Ricky
Thanks very much.
Best wishes
Carol
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1891
Robert Greenslade head mar 54 licensed victular Somerset Kingston
Ellen " wife mar 50 " Durston
Elizabeth " dau u/m 18 " "
Nellie " dau u/m 17 " Stavey?
Lucy " dau u/m 14 " "
Sarah Varney serv u/m 18 barmaid inn Beds Billington
living at
Surrey Arms, Surrey Square, St George the Martyr, London
Rg12/ 345
folio 95
page 37
ricky
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Hi Carol
Do you know what Mr Barkers christian name was ??? ???
ricky
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Hi again Ricky
Thanks again for the census information.
I'm just guessing that Sarah J Varney married a George Robinson Barker, got it from free BMD.
Carol
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Hi Carol
I carnt see a Sarah Barker on the 1901 born Billington ??? ???
there are four possibles
Sarah Eacott married to a William she was born 1873 ish
Sarah Hughes married to a Edward she was born 1871 ish
Sarah Rolls married to a Thomas she was born 1870 ish
Sarah Stevens married to a Charles she was born 1873 ish,
perhaps if she was working in London, she might have got married down there ??? ???
ricky
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Hi Ricky
I only have Sarah J Varney aged 8 on the 1881 census. So that would make her birth 1872/3.
Carol
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Hi Carol
where do's the Ellen come from born 1883 Billington, as there is no one on the 1891 or 1901 census, there is one on the 1891 says born Wingrave Bucks ???, parents William and Sarah, is this the one you mean
ricky
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Me again Ricky,
Yes thats the one, Ellen Varney living with parents William and Sarah 1891 Lower End, Wingrave. Does she say on 1891 c born Wingrave? I have her on that one as born Little Billington, although I could have copied wrongly.
Carol
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Hi Carol
1891 census has Ellen down as born Wingrave Bucks
ricky
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Ricky
Right, so I copied it down wrongly. Thnaks for that, will amend my records.
Have you managed to find her in 1901?
Better call it a day, I think.
Best wishes and thanks
Carol
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Hi Carol
Havnt pinned her down in 1901, having the same problem with the other members of the family, trying to find them. if I dont have any joy tonight will have another go in the morning
ricky
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Ricky
Now that you have told me Ellen was born Wingrave have traced her bap. thanks.
Really am calling it a day now.
Carol
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Hi Carol
Possible birth reg for Sarah Jane Varney
1872
Sept quarter
Leighton Buzzard
Beds/Bucks
vol 3b
page 405
ricky
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Hi Carol
also a possible marriage for her
Sarah Jane Varney
1893
June quarter
Aylesbury
Bucks
vol 3a
page 1091
only other person on the list is a
William Arthur Eacott
ricky
P.S
matches up with reply number 6
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Morning Carol
If the marriage is correct, there is this family in 1901
William Eacott head mar 39 railway engine driver Cotterill Gloucs
Sarah " wife mar 28 Billington Beds
William " son u/m 4 Camberwell London
Henry " son u/m 3 "
Ethel " dau u/m 8 months Crayford Kent
living at 35 White Hall Lane, Crayford, Kent
Rg13/ 697
folio 132
page 21
ricky
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Hi Ricky
Again, thanks for the information. I do think that Sarah Eacott is Sarah Varney, you kindly found her living in London 1891, then a marriage 1893, and a child born 1897 in Camberwell, London, all adds up. Cheers.
The William Varney I asked about yesterday, Ricky, born 1870 Billington,by 1901 I beleive that he was married as there is a child listed as grandaughter aged 8 living with William's parents William and Sarah in Wingrave.
Carol
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Hi Carol
Any idea who William married, have tried looking fo a William born Billington, but not finding him yet ???
ricky
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No idea Ricky, it's just that William is missing from the parents home in1901 so assummed he married, and as there is a grandchild at the parents home, and he was the only son that could have been the father again assuming.
Carol
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Ricky
Looking at other sites as you do, I looked on CWGC, and there is a Harry Varney Eacott, son of William Arthur and Sarah Jane Eacott, of Slade Green Erith Kent. Harry is remembered at the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial.
Yet another piece of the puzzle.
Thank you
Carol
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Hi Carol
That was a good find, but I carnt see William on the 1901 census ??? ???, which is annoying, as he must be around somewhere. Have tried looking in Beds and Bucks for him, but nothing matches up
ricky
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Hi Ricky
Thanks for looking anyway, you have been most helpful.
Best wishes
Carol
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Would be grateful if you can find the following please:
1891 and 1901 census Mary E Varney born 1877 Billington, Beds
1891 Sarah J Varney born 1872 Billington.
1901 Sarah J Barker (Varney)born 1872 Billington
1901 Ellen Varney born 1883 Billignton
1901 William Varney born 1870 Billington
1901 Mary Emma Varney born 1877 Billington
Would like if poss addresses and other people at that address.
Many thanks
Carol
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Hi Carol
are these two the same people ???
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Ricky
Yes they are the same person. All those listed are brother and sisters.
Carol
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Hi Carol
I've also looked every way I can think of for William in 1901 but no sign and I can't see a death either. Could he have emigrated?
Jan ;)
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Hi Jan
I suppose that there is a possibility he emigrated. William is aged 20 and living with the family in Wingrave, Bucks.1891. In 1901 there is a grandaughter Edith aged 8 living with Williams parents William and Sarah at the same address as 1891. I am assuming that Edith belongs to William jnr as the only other son David was aged 16 in 1901.
Anyway thanks for looking, much appreciated.
Carol
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Hi, I was roaming around the internet looking for records on Henry Varney Eacott trying to find my great grandmothers maiden name and came across this conversation :o... I nearly spat my tea at the screen.
ok William Arthur Eacott (my great grandfather)1862-1932 Cotterill Glouc married Sarah Jane ? 1873-1944 from Billington Beds. They had four children;
William Arthur Eacott 1896-1954 (my Grandad)
Henry Varney Eacott 1897-1917 ww1
Florence Kate Eacott 1898-1899
Ethel Eacott 1900-?
The family moved from Camberwell (after baby flo died) to Dartford kent.
William Arthur married Amelia Emily Hoare in Dartford 1920 they had 6 sons and moved from Dartford - Farnham - Hartley w - and then out to China where my father Douglas was born in 1925 (British Legation China, Peking) then settled back in Droxford Hampshire finally moving to the Fareham Portsmouth area. where both died william in 1954 (58) and Amelia 1977 (79)
I was looking trying to figure out my Great Grandma's maiden name as I didn't have a clue. It never registered that it might have been Varney although i always thought it was an odd middle name to give a child. doh!
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Hi Pompeygirl,
You can always find something on Rootschat. Sarah Jane (Varney) Eacott was the grandaughter of William and Susannah Varney. William was my 2xgt grandfathers brother.
Thank you for filling me in on dates etc for the rest of the family.
Anything that I can help you with please be in touch.
Carol
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Hey Carol, nice to meet you, So if sarah Jane was the grandaughter of your 2x grt grandads bro and my great grandma then that makes us...ummm :-\ related lol. k i have a serious headache now ;D
Sandra.
PS why the heck are all my rellies called William / william Arthur? very confusing
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Hi Sandra
I shouldn't even try to work that out, but there must be a blood tie however small.
You dont happen to know Sarah Janes mother's maiden name do you? I know it was also Sarah and Sarah Janes father was William but I can't find a marriage.
Also do you know if Sarah J and Wm Arthur Eacott had more children other than the ones you listed as there are several Eacott births in the Dartford area from 1902-1911.
Wouldn't happen to have any photos of Sarah Jane and Wm Arthur Eacott?
Carol
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I don't know at the moment but I will find out as much as I can. As for any other children I wouldn't rule it out. there are most likely a few hundred more Williams knocking about somewhere. I will search when I next get back from work. Also I'll ask my mother, she cant remember what she did 10mins ago but she can tell you what she did at 7.32pm tuesday morn nov 1930 lol.
got to go 4 now back in a few days,
Take care
Sandra
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Very much a shot in the dark, but I am looking for an Eacott (Ecott?) family that adopted my great grandmother around 1907. All I have is tidbits of information and memories from my grandad. My great grandmother Frances Sophia Blaney was born 1906 in Poplar, but given up shortly after birth. Adoptions weren't recorded until 1927, and I can't find her on the 1911 census so I'm wondering if she was recorded as her adoptive parents name. My grandfather remembers the name Eacott (or Ecott?), and that the father at least was alive during the war, as my grandad went to go see him and the entire street had been flattened, but Mr Eacott was still sitting in his armchair pinned under some rubble, but unhurt. He remembers him having a wooden arm that he would screw various tools into, and that the old mans wife and family had evacuated to Cornwall. Probably in the Charlton/Greenwich area.
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Hi
Flagging up an identical query to reply #33 on London & Middlesex
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=670223.msg5153485