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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Orkney => Topic started by: tigger_lass on Thursday 14 February 08 09:04 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I am searching for information on my ggg grandfather James Brodie b c1842 and died December 1875. From census returns in West Lothian where he was living he lists his birth place as the Orkney Isles.
From his death certificate his parents are listed as John Brodie and Ann Brodie ms Brown. From the IGI I have found a marriage between John Brodie and Ann Brown on 21 Nov 1833 in Stronsay but i cannot find James' birth on IGI or SP.
Can anyone help?
Many thanks
Tracey
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Sorry, Tracey, but the only birth I can find is a submitted one for Margaret Miller Brodie, born 1853. :( I suspect you will have found the same. However, I think this is James' parents in 1861:
Address: Airy, Stronsay, Orkney
John Brodie, m, head, 52, ag lab, Stronsay, Orkney
Ann ", f, wife, 43, -, Stronsay, Orkney
David ", m, son, 12, scholar, Stronsay, Orkney
Margaret ", f, dau., 8, scholar, Stronsay, Orkney
And in 1851:
Address: Airy, Stronsay, Orkney
John Brody, m, head, 41, agr labourer, Stronsay, Orkney
Ann Brown, f, wife, 36, -, Stronsay, Orkney
Ann Brody, m, dau., 11, -, Stronsay, Orkney
James ", m, son, 8, -, Stronsay, Orkney
Robert ", m, son, 5, -, Stronsay, Orkney
David ", m, son, 3, -, Stronsay, Orkney
And in 1841:
Address: Easthouse, Stronsay St Nicholas, Orkney
John Brodie, m, 30, ag lab & fisherman
Ann ", f, 25, -
Isabella ", f, 6, -
John ", m, 4, -
Ann ", f, 1, -
All born Orkney Islands
hume24 :)
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Thank you hume24
You've given me a lot more than I had and I'm very grateful. I have a few more bits of info to work with now which should hopefully take me back a little more.
At least the 1851 census shows James with his parents which is the first piece to tie him to them apart from his death cert.
Tracey
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Hi, you,ve probably got this info by now but I found this while researching my own relatives: at St Nicholas Cemetery, Stronsay erected by Ann Brown in memory of her husband John Brodie died 23/5/1876 aged 68yrs. There are a few other Brodies there
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Thank you akc
I actually didnt have any MI inscriptions so that's fantastic.
Regards
Tracey
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Hello
John and Ann Brodie are in my family tree on my Gran's side and possibly also my grandfathers - I'm trying to make the connection between John and Ann and my grandfather who was called James Brodie and was born in Whitburn, West Lothian - when and how he came from Orkney - are we talking about the same people?
Susan
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Hi susan and welcome. Do you have any other info on james i.e marriage or death certificates etc? it might be easier to narrow down the search a wee bit :)
akc
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Hi Susan
James Brodie b 1873 in Whitburn was the son of James Brodie b 1842 Stronsay and Jane Wilson b 1831 Whitburn. James was the son of John Brodie and Ann Brown, both of Stronsay.
James (b1842) died 30/12/1875 in Whitburn and was working as a railway labourer at the time of time. His daughter Annie was my 3xggmother.
I have James SNR on 1861 census in Stronsay as an 18yr old unmarried ploughman at Holland Farm and by 1871 he is living at Halfway Houses, Whitburn as an agricultural labourer with his wife and 3 children - Christina 4, Ann 2 and John 6mths.
Regards
Tracey
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Hello and Thank you. I have notes I cant put my hands on at the moment and some information linking my grandmother to John and Ann Brodie. Her marriage certificate to James Brodie says that they were cousins and I think John and Ann are the grandparents these cousins would have had in common. I'll hunt out the dates as I am hopeless at remembering dates but I think we share some ancestors Tracey.
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Hi HSusan
Was your grandmother Robina Brodie Cooper, daughter of Thomas Cooper and Margaret Brodie? If so, then your grandparents were first cousins as James Brodie b 1842 and Margaret Brodie b 1853 were both children of John Brodie and Ann Brown.
We are definitely related lol.
Regards
Tracey
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Hi AKC
Did you happen to find a headstone or M.I. for a John Brodie b 1762, husband of Euphemia Miller? He would have died after 1841 (he appears on the census for that year aged 75)? He was the father of the John whose MI you mentioned you'd found before.
Many thanks
Tracey
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Hi again, Nothing for Euphemia Miller, the only Miller/Brodie M.I. I can find is: Elizabeth Miller wife of Daniel Brodie died 1-7-1899 aged 62yrs also their daughter Margaret Ellen Brodie died 15-5-1897 @ 22yrs in St Peters Cemetery
akc
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Sorry it has taken me months to look into this - I'm just back from a trip to Orkney where I had a great chat with a cousin of my fathers. Her grandmother was Margaret Miller Brodie (my Great Grandmother), Robina's mother. I've now a copy of a picture of Margaret and she looks rather like her nephew James (my grandfather - it's the Brodie mouth when I compare it to gran and granda's wedding photo and my father!). Sadly I didnt make it to Stronsay but apparently there's no one on the Cooper side there (not sure about the Brodies). I'd love to make contact with any descendents from James Brodie's(my grandfather) first marriage to Catherine Doick. THere was a son James (Jim) who we believe went to the Isle of Wight and did keep in touch with my father's brother but then we have all lost touch. I'd also love to hear again from any Brodies descended from any of the Jameses.
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Hi Tracey
My ggg grandmother was Ann Brodie, the elder sister of your James Brodie I believe.
Ann was the first born of John Brodie and Ann Brown. James was the second born.
Ann Brodie married William Seatter and their second born, George Seatter, went to NZ in the late 1800s.
The first child of William and Ann, also named Ann married John Shearer and they built the house Seaview in Whitehall village. I believe they had no children. In their later years William and Ann Seatter lived at Seaview.
The gravestones of William and Ann Seatter and John and Ann Brodie stand side by side in the Holland Farm Cemetery on Stronsay.
Regards
Murray
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Tracey
An update of what I wrote yesterday. In fact my records show there was an older son John who died at age 25. He is recorded also in the Holland Kirkyard. There were at least two younger brothers after James, namely Robert and David. I believe that George Seatter went to NZ at least partly because two of his Brodie uncles were already there.
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Hi Murray
Thanks for the info on the graves of the Brodies.
Are you aware that there Ann was not the eldest? There was a daughter Isabella b.1835. She married Stewart Stevenson and died in Arrowtown, NZ in 1923.
David Brodie went to NZ IN 1884 and his niece Frances Flett Stevenson went to housekeep for him.
Glad to hear from you x
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Hi Tracey
No I had not fitted in Isabella. I have been focusing on the Seatter side. That is good information.
My George Seatter clearly followed his uncle David Brodie out there (or went with him?). At different stages this George was the hotelier at Frankton and at Bannockburn. There is a brilliant picture of that hotel at Frankton in the current Frankton hotel. George had three daughters, hence this branch of the Seatter name stopped there. A descendant of David Brodie, Mr Bob Fowler passed away in Christchurch this year.
I have a few post cards that were sent from Ann Brodie out to NZ in the early 1900s.
Cheers
Murray
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Just revisiting this Brodie connection.
It seems that Isabella (who married Stewart Stevenson) went out to NZ at some time prob with family ... son James is also buried at Arrowtown ... and Stewart and Isabella are both buried at Arrowtown. Also David and Robert Brodie went to NZ. My great grandfather George Seatter (son of Ann Davidson Brodie who was sister to the three that went to NZ) also went to NZ. Does anyone have any dates of the emigration to NZ, Tracey indicated that David went in 1884. Does anyone know what ships they went out on. I am still trying to work out when George arrived in NZ.