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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Pembrokeshire => Topic started by: Cat_Jones85 on Saturday 16 February 08 16:03 GMT (UK)
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Hi my name is Catherine.
I have a lot of family that originate from Llanddewi Velfrey. If anyone has got any information on anyone from there, especially with the surnames Stephens, Phillips, Picton or Griffiths. Or if anyone has information on "Fagurfach" please let me know coz it could be a lot of help.
Thanks
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Hi Cat and a Warm Welcome to Rootschat ;D
What time period ? I have Phillips in Landdewi Velfrey in 1840's
Can't help with Fagurfach but there are some very knowledgeable people at the Bookshop in Narberth, who maybe able to help. Check out
http://www.narberthmuseum.co.uk/
Wendi :)
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Thanks Wendi i'll have a nose about.
Well any period as somebody in my family is always there. I suppose its a good thing that they hardly moved. lol
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My Stephens family of Llandewi Velfrey lived at Parc-y-lan public house and many of the men were blacksmiths. Is this perhaps one of the families you seek?
Phoebe Stephens (born 1849) [my first cousin three times removed) married Benjamin Phillips and had 15 children.
According to "The Place-Names of Pembrokeshire" by B.G Charles Fagwr Fach is "lost" but is described as being "South of Llandewi Velfrey on the parish boundary".
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I am related to William and Francis Stephens of the Parc y Lan Inn, Llandewi Velfrey. They were my Great, Great Grandparents, their daughter Pheobe was my Great Grandmother. I am trying to trace what happened to Williams father James.
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William's father James died 4 October 1863 and was buried at Henllan Independent Chapel's burial ground.
James's first wife, by whom he had 4 children that I know about, was Phoebe Bowen. They married 31 July 1813 at the Chapelry of Eglwys-fair-Glyntaf (Whitland).
James's father was David Stephen.
Phoebe had 10 siblings, six of whom married and had descendants.
One of Phoebe's younger sisters, Margaret, was my great grandmother.
Phoebe and Dan Eynon had eight children.
If you post your query on the Rootsweb Dyfed list I can give you a great many names.
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Thank you, I had been told via Alf Thomas (Catherine Stephen's second son) that James was buried in an unmarked grave in Wiston where he was born. My Grandmother was Pheobe Elizabeth Eynon born in Ffynnon.
I had been told that David was the father of James but know nothing else. Would be pleased to hear anything else about them. Thank you.
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I met Alfred and Theodosia in July 1977 on one of my research visits to Llandewi Velfrey. It was Alfred who told me that James was buried at Henllan Independent Chapel.
I can probably add nothing to what you already know about James, but I do have a file giving a great number of James's descendants if you wish to receive it.
You presumably are aware that Catherine's first born, William Bowen Stephens (half-brother to Alfred and Theodosia) who was killed in the first world war, appeared on a Royal Mail special stamp sheet commemorating Armistice Day 2007?
Gerry Lewis
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I have a copy of the stamps, yes I know quite a lot about them as Catherine was my Grandmother's aunt. Although I know very little about James and especially Pheobe. I don't know when she died, and must admit I never saw any grave for Stephens in Henllan. Any idea where in Wiston they lived? I would be interested to see James descendant's. Thank you
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Hi
Hoping i`m not teaching Granny how to suck eggs.
I have the MIs for Llanddewi Velfrey.
William Stephens/Park y Lan Inn,who died July 3rd 1897,75.
Also of/Frances Stephens,beloved wife of the above/who died/7th June 1900 aged 73.
My 4xGreatgrandfather David Griffith was baptised at the church,1738.
There are several Phillips also if i can help
Omega :)
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OOPS
Sorry,Frances was 78
Omega
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hello Omega
I too have the Dyfed FHS fiche for St David's Church. Also Trevangor and Ffynnon in Llandewi, and Rhydwilym and Blaenconin in Llandissilio if you need any look-ups.
William Stephen's wife's maiden name was Griffiths and her father's name was Thomas. He was a cooper, presumably from Llandewi. Any connection to your family? His wife 's name MAY have been Margaret.
I have transcribed the registers for Llandewi and checked the entries against the BTs, but cannot find a David Griffith baptized 1738.
Gerry Lewis
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Hi Gerry
David Griffith.
Should have said 1730.I have a print off of the Baptisum.
I had to ask for help at PRO as some was in Latin.
David went on to be a Reverand at Llanglydwen.
I have a copy of his Ordination Papers.
Nearly forgot my manners,thank-you for offer of help.
I have Mariages for Cemais Hundred & Dungleddy.if i can help.
I have discovered when i go on holiday to Pembrokeshire (about 4 times a year) i spend a lot of time going round Grave Yards,a lot are`nt buried where you think!!!!!!!!!
Omega (nearly snowed in ) :)
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Hello Omega
Do you think there might be a connection between your Griffith and Frances Griffith?
Only two John Griffith married in Llandewi in the years before 1830:
9 Oct 1703 m Anne Thomas
1 Nov 1708 m Catherine William
unless patronymics were still being used, in which case I've got to look for a Griffith + [some other name]
Gerry Lewis
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Sorry,
For 1830 read 1730
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Hi Gerry
David`s father was in modern day terms was John.
From an Indenture,1756, David was involved in,names a brother William & sister Mary also involved.
It was`nt compleye PRO reckon the Mice had been hungry.
I have Mary`s Baptisum but not William`s or marriage for Mum & Dad.
The records dont seem to go back far enough ,unless i missed something while looking through the PRs.
Just for the record David married an Anne Brown 13 Feb 1767 at Cilmaenllwyd Parish Church,Carms.
Anne was an Inn Keepers daughter :D
I have a copy of marriage.
Omega
PS,This Family History is costing me a fortune,but i like to make sure i get things right & most importantly ,enjoy it.
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My ancestor,Stephen Griffiths,lived at Commercial,opposite the Parc y Lan. I have his details,but am having difficulty tracing his father's birthplace. His name was Dan, born around 1823,maybe in Llanfyrnach. His grave is in the village chapel at Llanddewi.
Can anyone help?
The family lived for generations at Stepin,a cottage (replaced in 1904) up on the hill.
Lyndar
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No Dan Griffith/s baptized in Llanfyrnach or surrounding parishes, so it's quite likely that the family was non-conformist.
One of my great great grandmothers was Frances Griffiths born about 1821 in Llandewi Velfrey. Her father was Thomas Griffiths, a cooper. At the time of her marriage to William Stephens (of Parc-y-lan) in 1845 she was living at Cross Inn in Llandewi.
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Thanks Treharne,
Yes,they were non conformist-my great grandfather was an elder of Bethel chapel I think. Dan was baptized at Henllan chapel in 1822,And I know his father was James,but I am still uncertain where he was born.
Lyndar
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Hi All,
Two of the blacksmiths here are Stephens from Parc-y-lan, Llandewi Velfrey.
Answer next week.
Regards
John
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Hi Researchers,
Key to blacksmiths.
Sorry, I only have two names so far, perhaps someone could help with the others.
No.1 seated is James Stephens, 1855-1935.
No.3 seated is William Stephens, 1820-1897
Regards
John
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I ntoice on this thread that several contributors have knowledge of records relating to Phillips' in Pembrokeshire. My ancestor Levi Phillips was according to the censuses born at Llanddewi circa 1820 and later moved and lived with his family in Aberdare. Wife's name Mary. He died after 1871. Would be very grateful to hear from anyone who knows of a connection to his family or has information regarding him or his family.
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My ancestors were Griffith. Dan married Mary Phillip of Stepin in 1850, and members of the family lived there until 1951. Great grandfather Stephen lived opposite the Parc y Lan inn in a row of cottages just named Commercial. After the 1871 census ,the Phillip family and the Griffith family had an s added to their names for some reason.
My ancestors worked for the owners of the Henllan estate. If anyone knows the whereabouts of the archives, which could contain pictures of tenants and buildings, I would be most grateful. Lyndar
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Two of my great great grandparents were from Llandewi Velfrey and lived at Parc-y-lan Inn. They were William Stephens and Frances Griffiths who married 7 November 1845 at the parish church LLandewi Velfrey. Frances's father was Thomas Griffiths, a cooper, and her mother I believe was called Margaret. I can't help you with any other information at the moment, but I'll check my 2 volumes of "Efailwen to Whitland" to see whether I can find any further information.
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Thanks Treharne. To my knowledge we have no Thomas in the family, but all these people must have known one another.
Lyndar
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Hi I am susan phillips maiden name .
My great grandfather meshak phillips and his father Benjamin phillips lived in penmaes llandewy velfrey Pembroke . They are in the 1881 census my great grandfather was born 1871 and his father Benjamin was born 1829 . On the 1881 census they were 10 and 52 yrs old . Have You info on phillips in that area ? Sue
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I ntoice on this thread that several contributors have knowledge of records relating to Phillips' in Pembrokeshire. My ancestor Levi Phillips was according to the censuses born at Llanddewi circa 1820 and later moved and lived with his family in Aberdare. Wife's name Mary. He died after 1871. Would be very grateful to hear from anyone who knows of a connection to his family or has information regarding him or his family.
I ntoice on this thread that several contributors have knowledge of records relating to Phillips' in Pembrokeshire. My ancestor Levi Phillips was according to the censuses born at Llanddewi circa 1820 and later moved and lived with his family in Aberdare. Wife's name Mary. He died after 1871. Would be very grateful to hear from anyone who knows of a connection to his family or has information regarding him or his family.
hi It has your family down as dewi cottage llandewy I think we r related my great grandfather and his father lived in penmaes llandewy their names are Benjamin phillips born 1829 and meshak phillips my great grandad born1871 . They were living there on the 1881 census . It says your family lived next door . Levi phillips Elizabeth PHILLIPS John Phillips Thomas PHILLIPS and Elizabeth Ann phillips . Love to hear if you can enlighten me on anything you have found out . Thanks Susan Phillips (maiden name )
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I can trace my Griffiths relatives back to 1800 in Llanddewi Velfrey. Dan Griffiths married Mary Phillip, who was born and died at Stepin, and is fondly remembered as Mary 93, her age at her death in 1914. I have photos of her. Their 2 sons were Stephen and Isaac. Stephen was my great grandfather. Most of the family are buried in the graveyard at the Bethel chapel, where they worshipped.
So glad to find other people with family in the village.