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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kerry => Topic started by: TasTyger on Sunday 17 February 08 21:30 GMT (UK)
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Heres another one of my Irish ties and though I have actually made contact with family members in Kerry and know a bit about the location of the family I have never been able to find solid documentary proof for this ancestor ie baptism or baptisms for other family members. ( I know the history of the Cantillons is well documented even to them being thrown out of their castle by the Crosbies....always fancied a drawbridge and moat !!)
Catherine Cantilen (or one of the various spellings) was transported on the "Midlothian" to VDL on 24 Feb.1853. Transported for 7 years. She was 17 years of age (so born circa 1833-35). Native of Co. Kerry.
Her convict record states her father was Patrick, brothers - Patrick and John, sisters - Honora, Bridget, Mary Ellen and Margaret at Native Place.
As I stated I've actually made contact and had some writings with descendants of Catherine's siblings but it is all anecdotal and family stories. The family is from around Castleshannon/Causeway.
The Roman Catholic parish of Causeway has records back to 1782 but I've never been able to get a response from the parish priest. There are microfilms of the registers at the NLI but they require written permission from the Bishop of Kerry to be viewed and its a bit hard to get a look at them from Australia.
Is anyone now or in the near future venturing to Causeway to seek their own relatives and may be able to assist me with a search as they seek their own? or is anyone going to be using the Causeway microfilms in the NLI?
Cheers,
Peter J Oakley
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Have you checked LDS catalogue at www.familysearch.org to see if the church records are available through them on microfilm?
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Hi aghadowey,
Yes I've already done that. They are only available through the NLI and the written permission of the Bishop of Kerry. Have had no luck with writing to parish priest so hoping someone might physically be going there.
Peter
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I think that the castle is in Ballyheigue, a village 6 miles west of Causeway village.
The name Cantillon is very common in Ballyheigue/Causewway.
You could write to the parish priest in both parishes.
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Name: CATHERINE CANTILON
Date of Birth: 29 September 1836 (Based on other date information)
Address: DROUMKEEN
Father: BARNABUS NR
Mother: CATHERINE DIGGINS
The name DROUKEEN is incorrect, it should be DROMKEEN. It is a townland of Causeway.
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Hi there -
My Cantillon ancestors also come from Causeway - Dromkeen and Blackpool townlands but mine came to England ! Anyway I have visited Causeway and have seen the records for the family although they are not held at St John the Baptist but a church a few miles away (cant remember the name but it will come back to me) however you don't meed to travel so far - check this new web site out and you will find your Mary Cantillon - I have pictures of the old 'Cantillon' castle in BALLYHEIGUE if you would like a copy please let me know and I will email. Probably your Cantillon and my Cantillons were related as its a very small place.
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how stupid !
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/
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Forgot about this thread until spratt1958 reminded me about it....!!
Thanks for the link and a possible family that might be my Catherine's from the indexes therein.
So I have PATRICK CANTLON married to CATHERINE DOOLIN - 18 NOV 1816, CAUSEWAY.
Children -
JOHN CANTILLON b 26 May 1817 Farran
MARY CANTELLON b 4 October 1822 Faran
BRIDGET CANTLON b 19 February 1826 Farran
ELLEN CANTLON b 12 March 1833 Faran
MARGARET CANTLON b 1 February 1836 Farran
RICHARD CANTLON b 3 July 1837 Farran
So I've got a father named Patrick and 5 siblings with the right names that match Catherine's info from her convict record.
Would this be the right family? No sign of Catherine's birth or baptism but there are enough gaps for her, Patrick and Honora to slip in tidily?
The mother is also Catherine so there are good odds they named a daughter after her?
Faran/Farran is pretty central between Castleshannon and Causeway, Dromkeen and Blackpool.
What do others think??
Cheers,
Peter
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Hi - I think is a good chance that is the right family - I have tried to piece together all the Cantillons in the local area to get the family relationships - but is very hard to get it right. I have attached my spreadsheet in pdf format and marked my family with ****. I would appreciate your comments - thanks.
Jackie
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Jackie,
that is a great piece of work! I have something similar too - there are a lot of Cantillons in the area!
My GG Grandfather was Richard, son of Barnabus and Catherine Diggan (that you mentioned, Antocar)
Richard lived in Ballydonoghue, near Listowel.
from your spreadsheet Jackie, Barnanus was a brother of your ancestor.
I remember visiting Ballyheigue Castle as a child, I think it is a hotel now.
TasTyger, I have also come across the names you mentioned.
I had read about Catherine being sent to Van Dieman's land.
I will have a look at my research tonight and see what I have.
Ciarán.
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Hi there -
My Cantillon ancestors also come from Causeway - Dromkeen and Blackpool townlands but mine came to England ! Anyway I have visited Causeway and have seen the records for the family although they are not held at St John the Baptist but a church a few miles away (cant remember the name but it will come back to me) however you don't meed to travel so far - check this new web site out and you will find your Mary Cantillon - I have pictures of the old 'Cantillon' castle in BALLYHEIGUE if you would like a copy please let me know and I will email. Probably your Cantillon and my Cantillons were related as its a very small place.
Hi there, I live just up from the ruins of the old castle and was wondering if you still had a copy of these pictures of Ballingarry Castle? (Cantillon's Castle)
I'm very intrigued by this!
Thank you for your help
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Pedigree of Cantillon of Ballyhigua, Co. Kerry, Bellview, Co. Limerick and Gatton, Co. Surrey, c.1575 - 1771.
Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.164, p.93
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Papers relating to François de Bulkeley and Marie Anne de Mahony, his wife, with genealogical information on the families of Bulkeley, Cantillon and Mahony, 18th c.
Paris: Archives Nationales, Fonds T. 1129 (7-9)
National Library of Ireland holds a microfilm copy (n.1092, p.181).
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Cantellon of Ballyheigue. Published 1855
Citation: The Kerry magazine: a monthly journal of antiquities, polite literature, criticism, poetry , Vol. II, No. 21, pp. 169-170, September 1, 1855