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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cumberland => England => Cumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: girtbysea on Thursday 21 February 08 01:21 GMT (UK)
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This is my first post so I hope this is how it's done!
I'm looking for my great grandfather Charles Wooderson who MAY or MAY NOT have been born in Carlisle in 1809 or 1815. He is said to bhave worked as a shoemaker and as a waterman in Surrey and was transported to Australia in 1832. Thanks for your help Girtbysea
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Hello Girtbysea
Their are no Wooderson's in Cumberland in 1841! ......... does that suggest that he may not have come from there or did his family move lock stock and barrel?
I see from your previous posts that your man was sentenced at Surrey azzizes and his employment was believed to be that of a waterman which gives the suggestion that he and his family lived by the River in S.E.London (Surrey)..........now, if his family did move to London from somewhere such as Cumberland Charles Wooderson may be connected to one of these?
Try tracing these people below into the 1851 census (not available to me) and see where they came from?
1841 census
Southwark
Isaac Wooderson 60 shoe maker N (not born in Surrey)
Sarah " 55 N
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1841
Lambeth
Ann Wooderson 40 N
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Bryant
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Try tracing these people below into the 1851 census (not available to me) and see where they came from?
1841 census
Southwark
Isaac Wooderson 60 shoe maker N (not born in Surrey)
Sarah " 55 N
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1841
Lambeth
Ann Wooderson 40 N
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The first couple were from Hampshire and Somerset respectively.
WOODERSONs in general seem to be from Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire.
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Thanks for your help. this is a great site for finding generous people as well as the rels!
All the best.
Girtbysea
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Girtybysea
The info you obtained on Charles Wooderson (where he was from, height, special features, crime committed etc) was it info by way of the Ships passenger list..........
ANDROMEDA left Portsmouth, England 17th November 1832...arrived Sydney, Australia 11th March 1833...183 convicts on board
The question is..........did the convicts go to Portsmouth or did the ship come to them? ie Portsmouth sail around the coast and then up the Thames to London and then onwards to Oz?
Or did you obtain the info from the National Archives ..........
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/
Did Charles commit the crime alone ? did he have an accomplice? where did you get your info and what did it actually state?
If that was the ship that Charles was transported on...........email the Surrey records office and see if they can help.........they will advise you and tell you what they have before it costs you a penny
http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/surreyhistorycentre?opendocument
Bryant
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Here's a map showing where the WOODERSONs were to be found in 1881 - a very small area, far removed from Cumberland.
http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/Map.aspx?name=WOODERSON&year=1881&altyear=1998&country=GB&type=name
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Thanyou once again.
No sure of information source. Much of it came from a family member so I will check with her. Anything I have found personally came from the passenger list.
What would the significance of the port of departure be? I think the ship sailed from Portsmouth.
I know very little about the crime. The only description was 'street robbery'.
Clearly the more I know, the more I don't know. I was hoping someone would have access to the Watermen and Lightermen data as that may show birthplace and parents names. I'm beginning to think he fabricated quite a lot of his personal information.
Happy hunting
girtbysea
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This is where they held those (approx 3 months, to assess where they would be transorted to?) to be transported in the period of history that this post refers...........
MILLBANK PRISON
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millbank_Prison
http://www.victorianlondon.org/prisons/millbank.htm
The website that Meliora has given you http://www.parishregister.com/ appears to be a good site for watermen and it is free to search for the name, unfortunately it comes up blank! ............
I assume that Charles was married in Australia.....if so? what was his wife's name? only a Charles Wooderson married a Ann Pearsall on the 16th Dec 1828 or the 20th Dec 1828 (depending on what source you use) at St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent
Greenwich isn't a million miles away (just a couple) and is on the banks of the River Thames.........
Place a post in the Emigrants to Australia section and ask for detail of Charles Wooderson arriving in Sydney in 1833 and did any female Wooderson's arrive in Sydney/Oz over the next few years..........many wives joined their convict husbands in time and were given assisted passage.....
Regards
Bryant
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I too am researching this charles Wooderson - my husband's g-g-g-g grandfather. I do not have any more information than you seem to have, but would be interested in contacting you direct none-the-less. Please email me at e-mail address removed to prevent spamming and other abuse. Please use personal message facility to exchange such information. Thanks!
Louise
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I too am researching Charles Wooderson - who I have been searching since the 1980's so I now call him 'Charlie' as he does seem to be a friend who does not want to be found .
I have had contact with a person re DNA who did a lot of English research and found this info
his name Colin.
'Charles Wooderson (surname spelt as Widowson) was christened on 9 Apr 1815 at St Marys Catholic Chapel in Horseferry Road, Westminster. He was born 18 Mar 1815, the father is listed as Isaac Wooderson and Ann Howard (written in Latin as Carolus, filius Izaac Widowson an Annae Howard), residing at 34 Great St Ann’s Street. Godparent listed as Cornelius Haley'.
The siblings etc of Charles were : • Isaac Wooderson, chr 7 May 1822 at St Marys Church of England, Lambeth
• Thomas Wooderson, chr 7 Oct 1824 at St Marys Church of England, Lambeth
I would prefer to correspond by email as I am not confident with these web pages .. I do have much more info and am willing to share.
I am a Ancestry member and can be contacted there under my name but do not have his tree there fully.
Please email me at e-mail address removed to prevent spamming and other abuse. Please use personal message facility to exchange such information. Thanks![ blue)