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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Sutherland => Topic started by: christmack on Monday 10 January 05 10:20 GMT (UK)
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Could anyone help with the descendants of the following family, especially any who are living today.
Donald James MACKAY m. 13.12.1823 Margaret NICHOLSON
Assynt, Suth
Their children are as follows:
1. Christy b. 20.12.1824 m. Gavin FOULIE in 1856-Kildman
2. Jean b. 13.1.1827
3. Donald b. 21.3.1829
4. Mary b. 11.8.1831 m. Alexander PORTER in 1856-Rogart
5. Merran b. 8.8.1833 m. Donald GRANT in 1857- Clyne
6. George b. 3.7.1835 m. Elizabeth HARDIE IN 1858-Old Meldrum
7. Willina b. 8.8.1839 m. Alexander INGRAM in 1859-Rogart
8. John b.15.8.1841 m. Mary MURRAY in 1877-Rogart
9. James N.N.b.10.8.1843 m. Margaret MCKEON in 1872 in
Australia
10. Hector G. b.29.4.1845
11. Malcolm b. 22.7.1847
Thankyou for your time
Regards from sunny Queensland
Christmack
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I have only recently found that my husbands ancestor Angus McKay born 21 Mar 1772 - father Donald McKay born Rogart Sutherland unfortunatly no other details of parentage or siblings as yet... he married Isabella Cameron in Stirling in 1808 and died in 1862 aged 90... if you find any connection would love to hear..
Best wishes
Mo
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Mo
Re you reply to me - The parents of my Donald were William MCKAY/MACKAY and Marian SUTHERLAND. This William was possibly a brother of your Angus MCKAY born in 1772 as the family were in Blacksmiths in Rogart for many years.
I will keep your info. and will let you know if I find a link. Can you let me know your e.mail address in case I find a link?
Bye for now
Christine Mackay
19/1/2005
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Hi Christine,
I've been researching my wife Sheila Mackay's family and you're definately related.
George Levison Gower Mackay born 3 July 1835 Dornoch, is the George no 6 in your list of children. He married Elizabeth Hardie 6th July 1858 in Old Meldrum. One of their children was Robert Mackay, my wife's grandfather.
John Mackay (no 8 in your list of children) and Mary Murray married 27th January 1877 (or 16th February 1877, depending on which record you believe) in Rogart, as you know. One of their children was Margaret Anne Mackay, my wife's grandmother.
So infact Robert and Margaret, who married 3rd September 1910 in Inverness, were first cousins and my wife is related to 2 of the children in your list!
Do you have any more details that you can share on Donald Mackay and Margaret Nicholson and their ancestors? Or on any of the other children in the list and their families? I've been trying find out about the Mary Murray who married John, but whilst I know her parents were Angus Murray and Janey McIntosh, I can't find her birth or their marriage records.
Regards,
Mike
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Dear Mikewebber
Wow, I have finally found some living family on our Mackay line. And connected through two siblings !!! That will save us some work in following up that extra line.
My daughter visited a record office in Rogart a few years back and he sent me quite a lot of info. on this family.
He has the marriage of John to Mary Murray as 16/7/1877 in Rogart. Maybe the 27th of January was the date of the Banns?? (Did they require Banns then?)
Or maybe for some reason they were married twice.
In two different churches because of different religions etc. or the two families were fueding, a common occurence in Scotland even now.
Would love to hear back from you.
If you let me know your e.mail address I can scan the info. that this researcher sent to me and send it to you.
Where in this world are you residing?
Christmack
19/2/2005
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Anyone of you Mackays know a Jane Mackay Gordon from Helmsdale she married a Alexander Mckenzie and one son that I know of named Adam .Born 1853
Adam married Isabella Watson at Pitsligo in 1875 they sailed to New Zealand in 1877
Need to find out more about the Mckenzie ,Gordons and Mackays
Elizabeth
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Elizabeth
Sorry, but I cannot see any connection to your Jane Mackay Gordon and none of my female siblings from that era married a Gordon.
Christmack
20/6/2006
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Was looking at details of family names you we were interested in and saw 'McKeon' in details of a Scottish ancestor of yours who married a McKeon in Australia. No connexion I don't think though. Our 'McKeon' is spelt with an 'e'.
Thought you might be interested to know that we McKeones live in the Bishopstoke Hampshire, where your Smith ancestors originated. We live in the former home of Dean Garnier, who was Rector in Bishopstoke in the early part of the 19th century, so he might well have baptised some of your ancestors!
Best wishes
hantshog
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Hantshog,
Ours has sometimes had an 'e' and they were from Elfin, Roscommon in Ireland. They came to Australia in the 1840's and settled around the Ipswich, Queensland area.
It would be interesting to see if your Rector did baptise, bury or marry any of my Smiths.
Cheers,
Christmack
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Hello Christine,
I have just found this site as I have just begun to trace my family. My great grand-father and great grand mother were Alexander Ingram and Willemina McKay. Thanks to you I have a good idea of Willeminas background but not anything as yet about Alexander. My grand-mother was Agnes Ingram married name Stewart and she married George Duncan Stewart. They lived for some time until their deaths in Carluke near Lanark.
Hope to speak to you soon.
Agnes
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Willinas daughter Mary seems to have married twice. The second husband was George McAndie Ross. I remember my grandmother visiting relatives called George Ross in Airdrie.I presume this may be the son of this second marriage. I also wondered if anyone had come across Nellie and Sarah Roy who lived in Mosstodloch near Elgin. They were I think cousins of my grandmother Agnes Ingram.
Agnes
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Thank you for the info re: Donald specifically his wife.
My son descends through his mother from mary who married Alexander Porter.
Don Porter from Durban in South Africa is a seperate descendent descendent.
My son descends: Alexander and Mary
Robert and Rose
Mary and Fenning Norman Kidson
Allan and Beryl
Anita and Edward
Ian or owen
Further, one of the Mackays of the family, recognised by allan as a cousin, was the first to fly solo from England to South Africa.
If you have any further information in regards to the nicholsons I would be grateful.
I feel there is some connection to Alexander Porter from Culsalmond to the Mackays, probably through the Nicholsons, but have not been able to establish anything.
It is through Don Porters work that i have established the link thus far.
Edward
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Hi Christine,
Am new to this site and so very excited to find confirmation of desendents of Donald James Mackay who married Margaret Nicholson. Donald is my 3 great grandfather. His son George Levison Gower Mackay married Elizabeth Hardie in Oldmeldrum, Scotland. One of their daughters, Maggie Jane Mackay, Married John Webster, and their daughter Annie was my grandmother, born in Old Meldrum, Scotland, came to live in South Africa and married William McCallum.
I haven't been able to find out why Annie came to live in South Africa - would anyone know?
Many thanks
Dee
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Welcome Dee to rootschat
I'm sure someone will come along and help you soon
I too have MacKays in my family there a lot of them in Scotland
Happy hunting
Elizabeth
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Dear DeeMackay,
Have just found your response to the request for information on your Mackay family.
Donald James Mackay and Margaret Nicholson are my Husband's Great Great Grandparents.
Other information on the Ancestors of Donald Mackay and Margaret is as follows :
Donald's parents were William Mackay b.C1760 and Marian Sutherland bC1770.
Their children that I know of were :
1. Elspet born 6.2.1795 in Golspie died 7.2.1891 marr.James Murray 9.5.1819
2. Donald James born 7.7.1801 Golspie died 26.9.1876 marr. Margaret
Nicholson 13.12.1823
3. Anne born 8.8.1807 Golspie died 1877 marr.Duncan MacPherson 9.7.1885
4. Alexandrina born 2.2.1813 in Rogart.
Margaret Nicholson's parents were Donald Nicholson and Mary MacDougall.
I do have some census records etc that I could send to you if you would like to send me your e.mail address in a personal message.
Cheers, Christine
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Thanks Christine, would love to have copies of anything you can send me - just need to figure out how to send you a pm ..... will get back to you.
Thanks
Dee
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Dee you have to make three posts just send one back here to me saying thanks
Then click on Christines aviator and go down to send this rootchatter a personal Message click on that
then you just post whatever you want to tell her or him
Elizabeth
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Thank you so much Elizabeth, for both your posts, encouraging and helpful, I hope we're related :)
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One never knows
Did you manage to send a PM
Elizabeth
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yes thanks.
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The following are my ancestors and would love to hear from anyone who knows of these people. (*)
1841 Scotland Census- Fourpenny, Dornock (civil parish), Sutherland
William McKay, age 40, born Sutherland, Scotland, occupation ag lab
Also:
Lilly Fraser 70
William McKay 40
Jane(Gray) McKay 32
Robert McKay 11
Lilly McKay 9
Leny McKay 7
Andrew McKay 5
John McKay 3
Sarah McKay 3
Margret McKay 1
This is my family's ancestors. In 1855, on the ship Andrew Foster, they would sail for the New York, US and Canada. Saulte Ste. Marie, Onatario and also Saulte Ste. Marie, MI, the UP. They also lived in West Zorra, Oxford and possibly Lambton County, at least the children did. More children that were born to William and Jane were: Georgina, William, James, Mary, Hector, and Jane, an infant in 1855. That is the last record of this family so I don't know if they had more children after that. I think William died in 1873 in West Zorra with Angus being the informant, if I have the correct William Mckay's death record. Need to verify this.
I don't know when Jane died, although I know her maiden name was Gray. Andrew McKay, one of the sons and my g,g grandfather, was the first Reeve of Sault Ste. Marie, Ont. in 1871. After his wife's death (Mary Jane Walt was his wife) who died in 1899 in Dafter, MI of typhoid, He, Andrew, moved to Washington state with several of his children.
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Mike Webber,
You left messages on this page some time back now regarding our Mackay family and just recently I have been given some photographs that I think you might be interested in and I thought that you would like copies of these.
The family was of Robert Mackay who married his cousin Margaret Mackay ? Some of the photographs appear to taken of their children.
I have tried to contact you on your e.mail address that I had from our earlier contact but I have not had any reply.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Cheers,
Christine Mackay
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What a great find
I have found a Robert Mackay married to my grt grt grandfathers( Adam McKenzie)
sister Alexandrina McKenzie they sailed to New Zealand in 1877 .
Elizabeth
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Aspin,
Sorry but your Robert must be a different fellow to ours.
He married his Cousin Margaret Mackay and as far as we know they stayed in Scotland.
Cheers,
Christine
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Hello DeeMackay,
I might have some answers about William McCallum -- and have plenty of questions! My grandmother, Josephine McCallum, born in Oldmeldrum, was the youngest sister of William McCallum. William and his two brothers fought in the Boer War, then decided to settle in South Africa. If you're a grand-daughter of my great uncle, then we're related!
I just joined rootschat after seeing your message -- shall we continue discussions via email (not sure how to do that)?
Cathy Kristiansen
Hi Christine,
Am new to this site and so very excited to find confirmation of desendents of Donald James Mackay who married Margaret Nicholson. Donald is my 3 great grandfather. His son George Levison Gower Mackay married Elizabeth Hardie in Oldmeldrum, Scotland. One of their daughters, Maggie Jane Mackay, Married John Webster, and their daughter Annie was my grandmother, born in Old Meldrum, Scotland, came to live in South Africa and married William McCallum.
I haven't been able to find out why Annie came to live in South Africa - would anyone know?
Many thanks
Dee
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Welcome to Rootschat Cathy
What you need to do is make two more posting just write whatever you want
then you can send a PM to Dee
There you can exchange e-mails
Good Luck
Elizabeth
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Not sure I understand, but I'll post another message to DeeMcKay. William McCallum was part of the family that included my grandmother, Josephine. The family of 8 lived in Oldmeldrum until the boys went to the Boer War in 1900. They decided to stay there after the war. William eventually came back to Scotland, died in Aberdeen. I wonder if it's the same William you refer to.
I hope to hear back (after figuring out this initial hurdle!)
Cathy Kristiansen (descended from McKays and McCallums)
Hi Christine,
Am new to this site and so very excited to find confirmation of desendents of Donald James Mackay who married Margaret Nicholson. Donald is my 3 great grandfather. His son George Levison Gower Mackay married Elizabeth Hardie in Oldmeldrum, Scotland. One of their daughters, Maggie Jane Mackay, Married John Webster, and their daughter Annie was my grandmother, born in Old Meldrum, Scotland, came to live in South Africa and married William McCallum.
I haven't been able to find out why Annie came to live in South Africa - would anyone know?
Many thanks
Dee
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Cathy,
I saw your message regarding Donald Mackay and Margaret Nicholson and we to are linked to the same family through Donald and Margaret's son James Norman Nicholson Mackay ( see previous posts )
James N.N.Mackay and Margaret McKeon were my Husband's Great Grandparents.
I would be interested in hearing from you,
Cheers Christine
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Cathy you need to make another post (reply) a smiley will do
to this thread then you can contact your relatives via a PM
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Elizabeth
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Hi Cathy,
Sorry but our William McCallum's aren't the same, his wife was born in Old Meldrum coming from the Mackay family and he was born in the USA. However, please get in touch with me (I'm also new to this site and don't use it as much as I should to get comfortable with it) because I'm a contributor to a book that is being put together on all the McCallum's who came to South Africa and I'm sure that I can help you.
@Christine - no reply from the relatives of Robert Mackay yet? What a pity!!
Thanks
Dee
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Hi. I don't know if you are still interested, but I am a direct descendent of the Dornoch MacKays. I've tracked them back from Winnipeg,Canada through Edinburgh to as far as Thomas and his wife Mary. If this is of any use to you, please get in touch. :)
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Thanks. I appreciate your message, but think we're from different lines. I'm now trying to track David McKay, who vanished from Glasgow after the 1891 census, taken when he was 38.
Good luck to you,
Cathy
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Welcome both of you to rootschat
There are many people in Rootshat who will most likely go out of their way to help you
in your searching I too have a line of Mackays but mine are from Helmsdale
Sutherland
Elizabeth
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Hi Chris
I have posted previously.
But have lost the ealien email aND hAve had to reregister
A quick review for anyone trying to contact me is below.
Alex porter and Mary Mackay emigrated to south Africa with their children. another son was born in the eastern cape. His daughter Mary Porter married Fenning Norman Kidson and was my wife's grandmother. Several of her children are still alive and are scattered from New Zealand to Canada.
Family tradition is that her cousin, a Mackay was one of the early aviators to fly from Britain to South Africa.
Another of Alex and Mary's descendants is Don Porter probably in his seventies now. I think he is a member of the Aberdeen FHS.
I have always wondered what brought a carpenter from Culsalmond to Rogard in the 1850s. I suspect they may have been family through the Nicholsons of Assynt.
Would you have any information in regard to these Nicholsons in the Mackay family
Edward
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Hi Catherine McCain
I had an idea that David Mackay may have been the solo flyer to South Africa in the early part of the 20th century. However he is almost certainly too old to be him.
have previously registered on rootschat as "EDWARD" BUT have no recollection of the password and that email is now defunct. But have a look at the more detailed posting earlier.
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Hi Dee
It is my experience that most people who emigrated usually had some family connection to encourage their move. In the case of your Mackay moving to South Africa, she may have been following family. Perhaps the Boer war soldiers and setitles.
If you know where she settled I may be able find a link to the Porters
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Hi All
First of all I am entirely new to this family tree searching and to make matters worse I come with very little information! I am trying to search back for my family on my fathers side. I do not have much information but know that he was from the Helmsdale area.
What I know!
Me: Robert Alexander Mackay (Born 1984 - Kirkcaldy)
Father: Robert Mackay (Born 1945 - Kildonan, Died 2008, Dunfermline.)
Fathers Siblings (John Mackay 1932 or 1934 unsure, Rosemary Macdonald Mackay (1941) Both alive but not in contact)
What I think I know based on a very patchy memory and what I have dug up online (Ancestry/Scotlandspeople). I have an odd memory my grans name was Grace and I know she lived the end of her life in Leslie House,Glenrothes where she passed away. I found this Grace which matches what I thought,
Grandfather: Alexander Mackay (I suspect Kildonan born and 1911?)
Grandmother: Grace MacDonald Manson (Then Mackay Married 1937 to Alexander Mackay) Born in Wick, Caithness 1912.
I have modified this post about 3 times as I have been stumbling upon answers. I am now convinced that all of the above are true. I will need to buy credits to check birth certificates of Grandmother (I am almost convinced I know the parents now) and Grandfather who I have no idea of Parents. 1911 Census just misses him.
Thank you for any info in advance.
Bob
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Hi christmack, I saw your post re James Norman Nicholson Mackay and Margaret McKeon. They were my great great grandparents. If there is anything you would like to know about them, please let me know, as I have been researching them for a few years now. {they are my maternal grandmother's paternal grandparents.}
Hope to hear from you,
Gail Steel :)
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ChristMac sorry for the 10 year delay! I moved to Canada and lost my email address, but have now restarted the research. Do you still have the photos you mentioned in your post of the Robert Mackay/Margaret Anne Mackay family please?
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Hi Mike,
We can update your old profile with your new email address, you just need to let us know what your original profile is?
Regards
Sarah
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Thanks Sarah. My original profile is mikewebber