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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: Curley on Tuesday 26 February 08 18:48 GMT (UK)
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Hi All
Looking for history of Burnett,s shop in Portadown and possibly Belfast,
Beleive formed about 1875 by Andrew Burnett of Ballnagarve,Magherafelt,
One time known as Burnett,s and Corbett,s, Burnett family were living at Millicent Terrace at signing of Covenant in 1912.Thanks for reading and any information would be appreciated
Curley
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Might be something in this 1910 Ulster directory?:
www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Contents.php
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Hi,
Burnett's and also Corbett's dept. stores were still in business when I was a child. I went to school with one of the Burnett daughters. As far as I am aware her father became a missionary. He is still alive today. Perhaps if you use your search engine for 1st Portadown Presbyterian church you could mail them and ask re. Mr Burnett. Also try Jim Lyttle's website re Portadown Photos.
www.portadownphotos.freehomepage.com It is not so long ago that I remember an article in the pOrtadown paper about him and /or his work perhaps you could try their web site too and mail them. www.portadowntimes.co.uk
Regards , aljepeka
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Anyone tell me where Church Street,Portadown and Millicent Terrace,Portadown are in relation to one another. Found Andrew Burnett in Church Street in the 1910 Directory and all the family in Millicent Terrace signing the Covenant in 1912.
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Hi,
I have an old map of Portadown dated 1906 somewhere in the house . I'll look it up for you today (time permitting). I did ask my father re Millicent Terrace today and he recalled it as being close to a Drs on Church Street. He thinks it was a row of houses just off Church Street. I'll clarify this with the map.
Be in touch,
Aljepeka
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Hi again,
I still have not got around to getting my map but if you check Jim Lyttles website www.portadownphotos.freehomepage.com you will find a photo of Millicent Terrace. It still survives today. I live locally and I would have called where it is Church Street. The photo is on page 6 of the Sprott collection of photos. I will still hunt out the map for you though.
Regards aljepeka
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Hi Aljepeka.
Thanks for you help. Got the picture now, it would seem to be the area between the Carlton Home and the corner of Mandeville Street. Lived in Portadown in the seventies and never knew this street, Thanks again
Curley
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Hi again,
You've got it spot on. If I'd known that you had lived in Portadown It would have been easier to explain where it was -lol. I do not know of anybody who calls these houses Millicent Terrace nowadays. It is just Church street. There is now a restaurant and various offices of accountants and solicitors etc in the buildings now.
Aljepeka
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Bill Burnett married a Miss McIlveen of Woodside Green. He closed his drapery shop at the corner of High St/Woodhouse St. many years ago. He and his wife are involved in Christian missionary work. Bill's mother was a McDonagh of the McDonagh Furniture factory in Obins Street.
Millicent Terrace
On Church Street from the Fergus Hall (the old Church Street School) to just before the old Labour Exchange, now TNT offices, the section is called Millicent Terrace. This name comes from a Miss Millicent Sparrow who married Lord Mandeville in 1822, who later became the 6th Duke of Manchester. As it happens, to this day the ground rent of that row and most of Church Street and other parts of town is paid to the Duke of Manchester's Estate which is managed by appointed trustees.
Hope this helps
Jim.
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Hi Jim.
Many thanks for the information on Bill Burnett,
Would I be right in thinking that Bill Burnett,s father was John Burnett and his mother then was Susan McDonagh. Took these names from headstone in Seagoe Cemetary during a visit,
John died 13.12.1971 and Susan died 22.12.1988. What church would the older generation have gone to, St Marks C.oI or Armagh Road pres which I presume is near Millicent Terrace.All the Burnett,s lived in Millicent Terrace at the signing of the Covenant in 1912.
Any information on the family would be appreciated
Curley
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Hello Curley,
you have got the right family. Bill's mother was a Quaker, I'm not sure which church John and Susan belonged to. I think Bill and his wife were associated with First Edenderry Presbyterian, I could be wrong on that.
Bill is one of the best, honest, hard working, a very linkable person.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Curley,
here is a recent photo of Millicent Terrace taken at night-time.
Jim.
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Hello Jim,
Good to see you are now on this site. Your wealth of local knowledge will help lots of people.
Aljepeka
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Thanks Aljepeka,
The Millicent Terrace question set me thinking about other local customized names. I have started a new topic titled 'Portadown Streets - Custom Names
Cheers,
Jim.
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Hello Curly,
1987 Directory of Belfast and Northern Ireland
A, J. Burnett & Sons, Ltd., 14, Woodhouse Street, Portadown.
Directors: David Burnett, Ms Latimer, William Burnett, Ms Susan Burnett.
Secretary: Ms Susan Burnett
Christopher
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Hi Curly, My brother visited John and Susan Burnett in 1961 adn he brought back some pictures to Canada. I'm sending you a picture of A.J.Burnett & Sons as it appeared at that time.
Mcburn
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Hi McBurn
Thanks for the picture,really appreciate that.
My father William Burnett was a cousin of John Burnett.
Thanks again
Curley
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Hello Curley,
yesterday I uploaded six clips to YouTube. Subject; Portadown Festival of Britain 1951 P6 of 6
You might be interested in viewing part six, at 1 minute 22 seconds you will see Burnetts shop, in the clip it shows the local fire-brigade demonstrating their skills from the roof of Burnetts shop! It can be funny but not so funny if it had been a real fire.
The original Burnett building no longer exists, terrorist laid a bomb in the centre of town in the 70/80's causing terrible destruction, many of the buildings, including Burnetts, had to be demolished and rebuilt.
Here is a link to the YouTube video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A--_Iqm5km0
Cheers,
Jim.
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Hello again Curley,
I was interested to learn that your father was William Burnett. I have a family bible dated 1754 from Ireland. It was brought to Canada in about 1832 with my great-great grandfather Samuel. It contains the names of whom I presume are his brothers and sisters, ei
George Burnett 1789-1804, John Burnett b Feb 4 1791, James Nov 4 1794-1821, Rachel Burnett 1800-July 2 1868, ???iam Burnett aft 1800, Samuel Burnett 1807-1895, Ann Burnett b1810, Adam Burnett b1816. I have no idea what the parents names were, but a family story states that there were three brothers who fought with William of Orange and were given 100 acres of land. My brother met an Alexander Burnett when he was visiting and Alexander claimed that he was farming a part of the original land grant. I believe Alex lived near Magherafelt. (Spring Bank Coagh???)
My ancester Samuel married Martha Cotten (Cotton) in Ireland before 1832.
Rachel married Hugh Homes and came to Canada between 1840 and 1850.
The mention of Cookstown and Ardtrea Parish in the bible gave me the clue to look in your part of Ireland.
I was very pleased to receive notice of the video clips of the Festival in Portadown in 1961. I wish you the very best for 2010.
Clarke B.
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Hi Mcburn
Sorry about delay.
You said that your brother visited Portadown in the sixties. What was the relationship between your family and Burnett,s of Portadown. I have a lot of info on all three families who lived in Ballnagarve, but cannot get the relationship sorted out. The story about William of Orange is a distinct possibility as the three farms known to me are all beside each other.
I have a researcher in Canada , who has done a lot on families from Ballnagarve at home and in Canada , would be very interested in contacting you.
I will P.M you his e.mail address ,
Looking forward to hearing from you
Austin
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John and Susan Burnett were my uncle and aunt - she was my father's sister. They attended the Friends Meeting-House in Portmore Street. I know that because my family attended the same meeting. Bill and his younger brother David moved to the presbyterians, but I can't remember when.
Gillian
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Hi All
Looking for some information on William James Burnett, son of Andrew Burnett and Eleanor Robinson. born 4 July 1878. Mother died soon after and father remarried.
Both families can be seen in 1901 except for William James.
Any ideas on where he went would be appreciated
Curley
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Looking for some information on William James Burnett, son of Andrew Burnett and Eleanor Robinson. born 4 July 1878. Mother died soon after and father remarried.
Both families can be seen in 1901 except for William James.
Any ideas on where he went would be appreciated
There's a birth in November 1879 for Andrew, son of Andrew James Burnett & Eleanor Robinson- so Eleanor must have died after Nov.1879:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGNK-KYR
Possible death in 1881? (Portadown is in Lurgan registration district) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTSC-W66
Family in 1901 & 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Portadown_Urban/Castle_Street/1029310
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Portadown_Urban/Church_Street/299933
It's possible that Andrew James Burnett mentioned his son William James in his Will: "Burnett Andrew James of 3 Annagh Terrace Portadown county Armagh draper died 17 April 1927 Probate Belfast 7 September to William Dunn and Frank Carlile wholesale warehouseman. Effects £4212 3s. 7d." see www.proni.gov.uk
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Hi All
Looking for some information on William James Burnett, son of Andrew Burnett and Eleanor Robinson. born 4 July 1878. Mother died soon after and father remarried.
Both families can be seen in 1901 except for William James.
Any ideas on where he went would be appreciated
Curley
Have you tried Emerald Ancestors or the Irish Family History Foundation?
Gilli
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Hi all
In the 1911 census,the following members of the Burnett family are involved in shirt and blouse manufacturing.
James ,shirt factory manager.Eliz,blouse designer,THomas,cutter and Mary ,cutter.
Can anybody indicate where this factory was located in Portadown?
Many thanks
Curley