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Title: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Friday 29 February 08 04:27 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Im really at a dead end searching for "Gillies" from these areas.
I have Malcolm Gardiner Gillies 1909-1983 married Coral Hudson.
Thomas Gillies 1891-1916 married Anna Browne (later married Herbert West).
Im looking for anything further on from Thomas who was killed in action in France 30/10/1916.

Thomas's parents are listed as Malcolm & Mary but I think there was a step mother??

Thanks.
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Friday 29 February 08 22:38 GMT (UK)
From the indexes

Birth
GILLIES  Thos Jos
Father Malcolm    Mother Mary Ann BRENNAN
Birth Place NOORAT   1891  Reg# 5654

Marriage
GILLIES  Thos Joseph
BROWN Anna Marian   Born Terang
1916    Reg. # 10189

Will see if I can find the possible death of his mother and  ? remarriage.

Cheers
cando


Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Friday 29 February 08 22:43 GMT (UK)
Another birth to Malcolm and Mary Ann

GILLIES Ioleen Mary
Father: Malcolm   Mother Mary Ann BRENNAN
Birth Place   NOORAT   1892  Reg# 16123

cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Friday 29 February 08 23:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your help cando

That all ties in with what I have...... except Ioleen....
She's new! So Thomas had a sister?

Im trying to find more on my family & am really interested to know where we came from.

Thankyou so much
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Friday 29 February 08 23:48 GMT (UK)
Hi there

Some more births for you

John James Gillies b 1879 Amhe reg no 43
John James Gillies d 1960 81 years Park reg no 1698

Elizth Frances Gillies b 1880 Talbot reg no 22509

George Albert Gillies b 1885 Talb reg no 6431
George Albert Gillies d 1885 4 months Talbot reg no 3639

Ethel Jane Gillies b 1886 Talb reg no 22446

All list Father: Malcolm  Mother Mary Ann Brennan

Raylen :)
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 01 March 08 00:48 GMT (UK)
Hi
I have just had a read of the digitised war file for Thomas and although it offers an intriguing read, there is not a huge amount of extra info.
Anna remarried when she believed her husband Thomas had been killed in action though she was not sent definite certification of this until later.
A letter  came to hand with which proported to be from Thomas to his step-mother at the correct address in Noorat.  It said he had been adrift at sea for 68 hours and did not expect to survive.  This cast doubt on his actual death and Anna, writes to the Army to ask them to clear up the matter.

She was remarried by this time in 1921.

http://www.gct.net.au/search.html#

is a Geelong distric Cemetery search and you will note the interrments of Cora Maude Gillies d. 1973. At Geelong West Cemetery.
Also Malcolm Gardiner Gillies is with her.

There are other Malcolm Gillies listed and we could consider that they may be forebears of your line.

Malcolm Gillies died 1868 is interred with
 Allen Gillies d. 1860 . At Drysdale
 Cemetery.

The site above has many other listings for Gillies and you may get some leads from there.

Also http://www.zades.com.au

has Gillies listings in Geelong.
Sue
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Saturday 01 March 08 01:09 GMT (UK)
Thankyou so much for your searches!

I have also read the digitised war file for Thomas, great reading & quite mysterious with the references from Annie about "the message in a bottle" & the step mother.

Malcolm & Mary Brennan seem to be Thomas's parents but there are also Malcolm & Mary Brennans listed with other children (as above) & no Thomas?
Also the birth of Ioleen to Malcolm & Mary in Noorat?
This is quite a puzzle!

The Malcolm & Coral are right... my grandparents.

Thanks again for your help...... the mystery continues.....
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 01 March 08 01:11 GMT (UK)
A glance at Terang Cemetery Monumental Inscriptions shows some other Gillies buried there.
I Can type it up if you think it is of interest.
They were from Noorat.  Sometimes  names assume importance in later research as things come together.
Sue

Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Saturday 01 March 08 01:13 GMT (UK)
That would be great thanks Sue,

Any little bit helps with this Gillies crew..... they seem to be quite allusive, well from me anyway!

Thanks again
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Saturday 01 March 08 01:34 GMT (UK)
Malcolm & Mary Brennan seem to be Thomas's parents but there are also Malcolm & Mary Brennans listed with other children (as above) & no Thomas?
Also the birth of Ioleen to Malcolm & Mary in Noorat?


Posted by: cando  Yesterday at 22:38:20 
From the indexes
Birth
GILLIES  Thos Jos
Father Malcolm    Mother Mary Ann BRENNAN
Birth Place NOORAT   1891  Reg# 5654

It seems that all the children listed  are from the same family.

More people to try and trace! :)

Raylen


Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 01 March 08 01:47 GMT (UK)
Have you looked at Victorian Immigration records.
There are some Gillies family groups arriving.  Some with right sort of given names but wrong ages.

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24

At Terang.

Angus Gillies b. c. 1862. d.5/10/1902 aged 40. Husband of Isabella.  Father of Katie.  Died at Noorat.
Isabella Gillies. b. c. 1866. d. 4/10/1924. wife of Angus. Mother of Katie. died at Noorat
Katie Gillies 3rd daughter of Angus and Isabella. b.1891. d. 1905 Died at Noorat.
Sue


Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Saturday 01 March 08 01:55 GMT (UK)
Hi

Marriage  -

GILLIES Malcolm     
BRENNAN Mary Ann   
1877  Reg # 4714

cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Saturday 01 March 08 02:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks again for your searches!

So it is possible that Malcolm & Mary Gillies (m) 1877 had
John James Gillies (b) 1879 (d) 1960
Elizabeth Frances Gillies (b) 1880 Talbot (d) ?
George Albert Gillies (b) 1885 (d) 1885 Talbot
Ethel Jane Gillies (b)1886 Talbot (d) ?
Thomas Joseph Gillies (b) 1891 Noorat (d) 1916 France
Ioleen Mary Gillies (b) 1892 Noorat (d) ?

Its very interesting, I'll try to search all these names & see if I can find anymore on Malcolm & Mary (& the stepmother)

I'd have to find more on them to find more about Malcolm ?

Thanks again
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Saturday 01 March 08 03:11 GMT (UK)
Perhaps you may like to consider purchasing the marriage reg for Malcolm and Mary Ann BRENNAN in 1877 - 
http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/servlet/bdm_home
You will need the reg # 4714.  Cost is $17.50 and you can download the image immediately.  Bit too handy at times ;D ;)

The marriage cert should show their parents names and mothers' maiden names and fathers' occupations, their places of birth and occupations and their marriage status, addresses and ages at time of marriage.

I'll have a quick look for the 2nd marriage.

cheers
cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Saturday 01 March 08 03:53 GMT (UK)
So it is possible that Malcolm & Mary Gillies (m) 1877 had

John James Gillies (b) 1879 (d) 1960
m Cath Mary McKenzie 1909  reg no 5731

Elizabeth Frances Gillies (b) 1880 Talbot d 1920 37 years Melbourne East  reg no 15502
married Geo Thomas Blackney 1905  reg no 3363

George Albert Gillies (b) 1885 (d) 1885 Talbot

Ethel Jane Gillies (b)1886 Talbot d 1941 54 Melbourne  reg no 4484
married Arth Tho Gore 1905 reg no 5491.  He died  in 1917 and she married
Alfred Gordon 1924 reg no 4859

Thomas Joseph Gillies (b) 1891 Noorat (d) 1916 France

Ioleen Mary Gillies (b) 1892 Noorat (d) ?

A little more to add to your tree  :)

Raylen
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Saturday 01 March 08 23:06 GMT (UK)
Death

GILLIES
Mary Ann
Father BRENNAN Jas     Mother Elizth CAREY
42 years   at Wbool Hospital   1902  Reg # 11958

There is a marriage in 1905 of a Donald GILLIES to a Christina STEWART Reg# 3368.  His birth place given as BRTN and hers TERANG.

Have trawled the deaths registrations for Malcolm GILLIES and the following one may be  possibility

GILLIES  Malcolm
Father Gillies Donald  Mother Catherine  MCLEAN
at TERANG  64 years  1923  Reg# 8093

There are other births to Donald GILLIES and Catherine McLean in the 1860's and I note a number of deaths between 1921 and 1985 showing Donald and Catherine as parents.   A certificate or two would help you on your way.

Cheers
cando


Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Sunday 02 March 08 05:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much!

I got the marriage certificate dated 13/12/1877 for Malcolm Gillies of Stony Creek Talbot & Mary Ann Brennan of Talbot (that is very handy I agree  :) )

Malcolm was 21 a labourer & his parents were Donald Gillies (a farmer)& Catherine McLean.
Mary Ann was 18, A domestic servant & her parents were James Brennan (a miner) & Elizabeth McGarry.

There was also another marriage on the certificate is that common? also in Talbot different names.

This gets quite addictive doesnt it?  ;) thanks again
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Sunday 02 March 08 05:18 GMT (UK)
Well you have the correct death for Malcolm with parents Donald and Catherine.

Would you like the births/deaths the children of Donald GILLIES and Catherine McLEAN?

Yes quite common - you have an image of the page of a register.  In later years you only get the record you request.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Sunday 02 March 08 05:30 GMT (UK)
That would be great thanks Cando.

This is my 1st attempt at doing a family tree (did you guess?  :D)

Its good to know Im on the right track especially with the great help from the people on this board!
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Sunday 02 March 08 05:34 GMT (UK)
Did it give Malcolm's place of birth on the marriage reg?  Only births in Australia to Donald and Catherine

Births
GILLIES  Angus
Father Donald  Mother Katherine MCLEAN
at  NEWH    1863  Reg# 5354

GILLIES  Alexander
Father Donald    Mother:Catherine MCCLEAN
at STONEY CK  1866  Reg# 65

Deaths

GILLIES Angus
Father GILLIES  Donald  Mother Cath MCLEAN
at  Noorat   40 years   1902  Reg# 15190

GILLIES Malcolm
Father GILLIES  Donald   Mother:Catherine  MCLEAN
at TERANG   64 Years 1923  Reg# 8093
 
GILLIES Norman
Father GILLIES Donald  Mother Cath MCLEAN
at  MBORO 89 years   1942  Reg# 30123

GILLIES Roderick
Father GILLIES Donald  Mother Katherine MCLEAN
AT  MBORO   65 YEARS  1935  Reg# 16594

MCINTYRE Catherine**
Father GILLIES  Donald Mother Catherine MCLEAN
at GREE   90 years   1971  Reg# 20840

Cheers
cando

**Edit - doubt if this belongs to this family - this Catherine would have been born in 1881 and Catherine [the ?mother]would have been 50 years old.
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Sunday 02 March 08 05:44 GMT (UK)
Yes it did...

Malcolm Gillies Stony Creek Talbot Vic

Same as Alexander!!

Ok sifting through

Thanks & Cheers
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Sunday 02 March 08 06:07 GMT (UK)
Well it looks as thought his birth was not registered - nothing in the indexes.

Now you will want some family history software to record all your research ;D ;D  There are a few free downloads available - I started with PAF from http://www.familysearch.org

Cheers
cando


Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 02 March 08 07:26 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Now I will pop this in as it may or may not be on the right track.
Also buried at Terang Cemetery.

Catherine Gillies b. c. 1831. d. 1895 aged 64 died at Framlington. Wife of RONALD.
RONALD Gillies b. 1822. d. 1902 aged 80 died at Framlington. Husband of Catherine.
Now, I'm wondering is this a misprint from  a hard to read headstone or register entry and should be written DONALD?
The text associated with these cemetery listings comes supposedly from MI 's.

Now that we know there was a son to Catherine named Angus and he and wife Isabella  named a daughter Katie [reply #10 I think] and they are all interred in the same cemetery, I think we may have DONALD and Catherine.

Sue 

 
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: regross on Sunday 02 March 08 07:52 GMT (UK)
Hi.

The only marriage for Donald Gillies was to Isabella Mclean

Surname: GILLIS
Given Names: Donald
Event: M
Spouse Surname/Father: MCLEAN
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Isabella
Sex: M
Year: 1863
Reg Number: 2835

There are 16 births all up for Mclean with father Donald and mother either Isabella or Catherine Mclean.

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Two in 1867 one for Catherine and one for Mary Ann and again in  1869 Roderick and Malcolm , in the same towns, with  other registrations between them;  therefore not likely to be twins and one had Catherine as the mother the other Isabella.

Perhaps sisters married cousins with the same name!!! Name varied between Gills, Gillis, Gillies Gilles.

Both couples seem to live in the same town at the same time!!! You will find it helpful to purhase the birth certificate of the youngest child of bothcouples. This should shed some light on the couples parents as well.

Available on line at  http://online.justice.vic.gov.au

worth a try

Robyn in Wodonga

 






Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Sunday 02 March 08 09:52 GMT (UK)



Catherine Gilles b 1867 Cherst ( maybe meant to be Amherst?)
Father Donald                 Mother   Catherine McLean
Reg no 19406
Catherine Gillies d 1867  born Ston age 14 weeks
Father Donald                   Mother Catherine McLean
Reg no 9619



Raylen

Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Sunday 02 March 08 10:10 GMT (UK)

A member submitted entry on IGI

Donald Gillies married Catherine Maclean 20/5/1852
Portree,Inverness,Scotland

I checked Scotlands People and got 1 match
with the details above.

Sounds promising  :)

Raylen
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Sunday 02 March 08 10:14 GMT (UK)
Here is the death reg for Donald and Catherine

GILLIES  Donald
Father GILLIES Rhoderick  Mother Christina MCKENZIE
80 years at Terang   1902  Reg# 11836

and

GILLIES Catherine
Father  MCLEAN Angus    Mother Annie MCKENZIE
at Nallangeich   64 years   1895  Reg# 161

Cheers
cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Sunday 02 March 08 10:17 GMT (UK)
Good find Raylen - it was obvious that they weren't married in Australia by and I wouldn't be at all surprised that Malcolm  was not born here either - even though it was stated he was born at Stoney Creek on his marriage cert.

Good find Sue and I am sure you are correct - Donald not Ronald.

Will have another look at the shipping records.

Cheers
cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 02 March 08 10:22 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Victorian immigration passenger listings do show a couple of Donald Gillies pairings that look like father and son. Arriving 1850's.  might give 2 generations of  births with Donald Gillies as father.
Sue
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Sunday 02 March 08 11:27 GMT (UK)
And some more chn

Transcribed as

GILLIS  Christiana
Father Donald  Mother Catherine MCLEAN
at  DALH   1860  Reg#11007


GILLIS  Roderick
Father Donald  Mother: Catherine MCLEAN
at   AMHERST   1869   Reg# 6095

cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Sunday 02 March 08 12:08 GMT (UK)

* Duplicated details removed

Sorry cando  :-[

I repeated some information you already had posted.


Raylen
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Sunday 02 March 08 12:15 GMT (UK)
Sue I think that this group of GILLIES on the MILTIADES could  include  Donald and Catherine.  The death cert showed Donald's father to be Roderick.


GILLIES   Angus   10   OCT 1852   MILTIADES   7   26
GILLIES   Catherine   48   OCT 1852   MILTIADES   7   26
GILLIES   Catherine   14   OCT 1852   MILTIADES   7   32
GILLIES Catherine   23   OCT 1852   MILTIADES   7   26
GILLIES Donald   23   OCT 1852   MILTIADES   7   26
GILLIES   Donald   12   OCT 1852   MILTIADES   7   26
GILLIES John   1   OCT1852   MILTIADES   7   26
GILLIES   Murdoch   18   OCT 1852   MILTIADES   7   31
GILLIES   Roderick 52   OCT1852   MILTIADES   7   26

I know the ages aren't spot on but that's shipping records ::)  Catherine aged 23 is right.

I think this is probably getting very confusing for shazo4 as she has mentioned this is her first venture into family history - perhaps a summary may help her.  Some of the bdm information has been duplicated.

Cheers
cando

Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Sunday 02 March 08 21:56 GMT (UK)
Thankyou so much for all your efforts!

Your right Cando...... Im confused  ???

But thats ok, I'll sit down later on & go through all this & try to piece it together its certainly got me very interested

I just need to make sure Ive got the right Gillies & dont add the wrong family into my tree  ;D

Thanks again to you all
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Tuesday 04 March 08 01:18 GMT (UK)
For those who are interested in this thread - spent a bit of time on this family and with shaz04 and a couple of death certs, it has now been established that the shipping records above are that of the correct family.  There has been a mistranscription of Roderick's wife's name - should be Christina and the age of Donald is incorrect. 

I would imagine that shaz04 will probably be back asking for more lookups as she builds her family tree ;D

Cheers
cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Tuesday 04 March 08 02:00 GMT (UK)
A big thankyou to everyone who contributed to my Family tree.

Im off to a great start with all your help & am working out who's who.

Special thankyou to Cando who got me on the right track!

& yes I'll be back Im sure   ;D

Thanks again xx
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Tuesday 04 March 08 04:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the feedback cando.

It's nice if you've been following a thread to find out
what happened.

Great work from you and Sue(sparrett)  :)
and good luck to shaz04.

Raylen
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 04 March 08 06:44 GMT (UK)

The age of which donald Cando?

I cannot work out whose child Donald junior is on the ship.

If donald [aged 23] is Roderick's child, then who does the other Donald belong to?

You wouldn't have 2!

Sue
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Tuesday 04 March 08 09:36 GMT (UK)
It is Roderick with his wife Christina and their son Donald with his wife Catherine and infant son John  and the rest are Roderick's chn. 

According to Roderick's death cert - his chn
Donald, John [died in Scotland], Murdoch, Catherine, Ronald,  Ann [died in Scotland] Angus.

cando


Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Tuesday 04 March 08 09:48 GMT (UK)
Hello again,

cando, good thing the death certificate made things clearer.
This is how they appear on the Scottish census.


1841 Hallaig, Inverness,Scotland
Roderick Gillies 40 Inverness,Scotland, Ag Lab
Christian Gillies 40 Inverness,Scotland
Ann Gillies 15 Inverness,Scotland
Donald Gillies 15 Inverness,Scotland
John Gillies 13 Inverness,Scotland
Murdoch Gillies 9 Inverness,Scotland
Catharine Gillies 6 Inverness,Scotland
Donald Gillies 3 Inverness,Scotland

1851 Ferns Portee,Inverness,Scotland
Roderick  55 head - Crofter
Christian  52 wife - Crofters wife
Donald  24 son - Laborer
Murdo  18 son - Laborer
Catharin  15 daug - Maid Servant
Dond  12 son - Scholar
Angus  9 son - Scholar
All born born Portee,Inverness,Scotland
All transcibed as Giller :-\

Raylen






Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Tuesday 04 March 08 10:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Raylen - well we have 2 Donalds again - however it was definitely Ronald on the death cert.

Wonder if Ann and Donald were twins?

Leaving this thread now as I spent most of yesterday afternoon doing this family.

Cheers
cando
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Wednesday 05 March 08 02:51 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Im might be way off track here but reading Rodericks Death Cert it says

Roderick GILLES  Farmer
Where & when died: 6/10/1879 County Dalhousie
Sex & Age: Male 50
Mother: Mary Gilles formerly McKenzie
Father: Donald Gilles
Where & when buried: Woodend Cemetary 9/10/1879
Born In Scotland 27 years in Victoria
Birth & Names Of Children:
Donald 55 years
John deceased
Murdoch 50 years
C... cant read it 44 years
Ronald 40 years
Ann deceased
Angus 34 years

Im confused too or am I having a blonde moment?
Gillies may have been Gilles or Gillis back then?
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: Raylen on Wednesday 05 March 08 03:49 GMT (UK)
Hi there

As you go along the way you can find some names change spelling.
Sometimes a little - sometimes a lot! :o


Even with the births and deaths found for your Gillies family here, there
were several different spellings from the registrations.

It just make researching all the more fun  ;D


Someone might have a technical answer as to how/why this
happens.

Happy hunting  :)

Raylen
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: cando on Wednesday 05 March 08 04:13 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Im might be way off track here but reading Rodericks Death Cert it says

Roderick GILLES  Farmer
Where & when died: 6/10/1879 County Dalhousie
Sex & Age: Male 50
Mother: Mary Gilles formerly McKenzie
Father: Donald Gilles
Where & when buried: Woodend Cemetary 9/10/1879
Born In Scotland 27 years in Victoria
Birth & Names Of Children:
Donald 55 years
John deceased
Murdoch 50 years
C... cant read it 44 years
Ronald 40 years
Ann deceased
Angus 34 years

Im confused too or am I having a blonde moment?
Gillies may have been Gilles or Gillis back then?

Shaz04 I think I can explain - take note of the informant's name for this registration - it was a neighbour.  I would suggest that you now contact the Woodend Cemetery Trust -
http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/vic/vicsec3.htm#anchor393061
Mr K Garlick
Secretary
Mount Macedon Road
Woodend 3442
03 5427 2838
giving both spellings and date of death and see if they can give you burial details and location of grave.

The name was GILLIES on the shipping record and on GRO Scotland on Donald's marriage to Catherine McLEAN.

The name you are having difficulty reading on the death certificate is Catherine.

Cheers
cando


Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Wednesday 05 March 08 04:57 GMT (UK)
Ok I wondered who that was  ::) (the informant)

Called Woodend & they are doing a search for me & will hear back soon.

All the spellings & name variations are crazy.

I had a quick look around & it seems no-one else has a tree on these "Gillies"  :o

Thanks again for clearing that up Cando & Raylin
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Monday 10 March 08 22:40 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Just an update that I received an email from Woodend saying that
Roderick Gillies 80 years old was buried 1879 Presbyterian section Grave1 Row E
Christina Gillies 88 years was buried 1886 Presbyterian Section Grave 5 Row E, Also in this grave Roderick 2 years buried 1888 no headstone.

Also an Annie Gillies Lewtas 78 years buried 1940 C of E section Grave 59 Row F - Headstone..... (not sure if she is related yet)

Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Friday 04 April 08 02:58 BST (UK)
Hello again,

I was wondering if anyone can lookup Donald Gillies & Mary McKenzie in Scotland, Im not sure where to look for any information on these two.

Ive found an Effy Gillies 1801 Portree Inverness with Donald & Mary listed as parents (also a son Roderick).
I cant find any more information on them...... any suggestions would be great!

My tree has grown with thanks for all the help you've given!

Cheers
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: regross on Friday 04 April 08 05:12 BST (UK)
There are several (9) Effy Gillies in the 1841 census

One at Portree in 1841 is 25 years old reference  number in the scottish 1841 census is 114/00 010/00 07.

You can access this at    http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

regards

Robyn
Title: Re: Gillies Family Geelong Terang Noorat...
Post by: shaz04 on Friday 04 April 08 05:59 BST (UK)
Thanks Robyn,

I saw that Effy there, but the other members in the household were Malcolm, Mary, Kenneth, Malcolm, Effy, Norman & un-named Gillies.

So I dont think thats the right "Gillies".... all the names I need are in all the wrong families  .... its hard work this genealogy!  ;D