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Title: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: jarlotte on Tuesday 04 March 08 11:00 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the parents of a William Ashley born 1772 in Burnett somerset, He married a Mary Bryant born 1786 Compton Dando on 12 jun 1806 in Compton Dando. They had at least 4 children all born in Compton Dando. Thank you julie
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: harrisonfam on Wednesday 28 November 12 04:28 GMT (UK)
William's parents were Robert Ashley (1754-1824) and Sarah Nurse (1754-1822) Robert was born in Burnett, and died in Wrington, Somerset. They married 1773 in Compton Dando.
Robert's parents were William Ashley and Mary Bailey.
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: jarlotte on Wednesday 28 November 12 10:07 GMT (UK)
Since I posted the message I have found out who Roberts parents were, but I have not found out where they were buried so thank you for your information and for taking the time to reply
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 28 November 12 11:22 GMT (UK)
Hi jarlotte,

Christenings, St Mary, Compton Dando to WILLIAM/MARY Ashley;
SARAH 03 July 1808
BETSY 12 Aug 1810
ANN 13 May 1813, Buried 30 June 1816, age 3
JOSEPH 14 March 1816, Buried17 March 1816 age 8 weeks
ANN 03 June 1817
WILLIAM 14 May 1820
MARIA 02 Nov 1822
MATILDA 03 Feb 1825
JOSEPH 03 April 1828
MARY March 1831, private received 23 March 1831
ELIZA 03 Nov 1833
Most have Fathers Occp as Labourer.

So on 1841 Census Mary/Elisa are their Children not Grandchildren as one would think given their ages;
William ASHLY, 65, Ag Lab
Mary Ashly, 55
Mary Ashly, 10
Eliza Ashly, 7

Burials, same Church;
WILLIAM 27 April 1856, age 84
MATILDA 05 Nov 1858, age 23
MARY 22 May 1870, abode Publow, age 83

1841 Census MATILDA is away from Home under Watilda Ashley c 1825 and JOSEPH c 1828 is working in Publow in 1841.

SARAH Married John PIKE 11 Aug 1828, with Consent of Parents
MARY Married Frederick HUNT, 15 Jan 1855

1806 and 1773 Ashley Marriages are on FreeREG in Compton Dando also, with Witnesses names.

Trish :)
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: jarlotte on Wednesday 28 November 12 12:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Trish
Thank you for all the information
Julie
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 28 November 12 12:58 GMT (UK)
Your welcome Julie,
Have a look around on FreeREG www.freereg.org.uk as lots of Somerset Records on there.
Sometimes you may need to use the soundex option.
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: harrisonfam on Wednesday 28 November 12 19:16 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Who do you have as the earliest Ashley in your tree?
I have got back as far as William born 1730 in Bath St. Michael and died 1784 in Burnett, Somerset. Wife Mary Bailey, married in 1753.
Would love to learn his parents names.
Thank you
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: jarlotte on Thursday 29 November 12 11:38 GMT (UK)
I have the parents of William as Robert Ashley & Mary, I got this from somebody elses family tree, but as yet I have no proof that this is correct. His siblings are Sarah 1724, Betty 1726, Ruth 1727, Thomas 1730 and James 1730. Have tried to check this but can find no Bath records to verify it. Hope this helps.
Julie
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: harrisonfam on Thursday 29 November 12 17:24 GMT (UK)
I have the same data as you have. I think the Robert and Mary is just a guess and I can't find any proof of that at all, so I am not going to use it.
I guess we will just keep on sleuthing!
But we are definitely distantly related. I descend from William's son George(1760) while you follow Robert's (1754) tree.
Thanks again
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: Liz in France on Saturday 08 December 12 14:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie and Harrisonfam,

I hope you don't mind me coming in on your post but I too am researching an Ashley family from Burnett and am stuck on the 5th generation.

My 3 x great grand father was Robert Ashley b1774 Burnett whom I believe to be the son of Thomas Ashley and Grace Jones married 1769 Burnett.  I am fairly sure they were both born in Burnett but probably just before 1749 which is when the online records are available.  Do you  have any information on a Thomas Ashley born about the same time as your Robert who may be the son of William Ashley and Mary Bailey.

Thomas and Grace had many children and the first daughter was Mary.  I think this may have been the name of Thomas's mother.  Their first child a son was called Thomas but he was born a year before they married, so may have been named after his father and  not his grandfather.  Who knows!

If you have any further information on the generation born 1745 -55 and the parents names, (i.e. the siblings of Robert) I would be very grateful.  It is highly likely that there is a connection between us as Burnett is not all that big a place.

Best wishes,
Elizabeth
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: jarlotte on Saturday 08 December 12 16:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Elizabeth

I am not sure if Thomas is the brother of William, as I said in my earlier email I got the information from another family tree  in which they said the parents of William and his siblings Sarah, Betty, Ruth, Thomas and James was a Robert & Mary. So as William went to Burnett it is possible that Thomas went with him but I cannot be sure. Hope it helps.
Julie
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: Liz in France on Saturday 08 December 12 17:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie,

Thanks for the quick reply and the information.  I am now thinking you are right that the family originated elsewhere and perhaps only a couple of them moved to Burnett.  The missing Burnett records would show this one way or the other.

I have found a lot of Ashley records at Swainswick but no Robert Ashley, so will start to trawl the other parishes around Bath to see what I can find.  There are quite a lot of them in Somerset so it is quite difficult to be sure that they are the right family especially as the same names keep being used. No doubt all will become clear in the time.

Best of luck with your search.
Elizabeth
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: harrisonfam on Saturday 08 December 12 21:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Liz,
Yes, your information all jives with mine.
Thomas Ashley b. 1735 d. 1815 in Burnett & Grace Jones m. 1769 Burnett, with 10 children including Mary and and Robert, and with Thomas' siblings being Betty, Ruth, William, Thomas and James.

Thomas 1735-1815 seems to be a brother to William (my ancestor), Thomas, James, Betty and Ruth.

So glad to see so many other people researching this Ashley line !
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: Liz in France on Saturday 08 December 12 22:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Harrisonfam,

Where did you get the birth year  for Thomas of 1735?  I cannot find anything for him at all that fits in. 

The burial in Burnett for Thomas 12.2.1815 would indicate he was born 1752/3 as he was 62 at death.  This would fit the Thomas married to Grace albeit that he is a little young but maybe that is why they did not marry until son Thomas was a year old.

I have all the 10 children baptised in Burnett for them but am just missing both Thomas and Grace Jones birth dates and place.

The tree on Ancestry indicates that William Ashley married Mary Bailey at Southbroom, Wiltshire in 1753.   Their son Robert was born in 1754 in Burnett, so I am not so sure now that my Thomas was the son of William and Mary unless he was younger than Robert but that would make him extremely young when illegitimate son Thomas was born in 1768.

I know there is a large number of Ashleys in Wiltshire but never thought they were any connection with my family.  Maybe the time has come to start looking there. 

I shan't be filling anything in on my tree until I am sure of the facts.

Maybe we shall find the answers soon, so  I will let  you know if I find anything useful.

Best wishes,
Elizabeth
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: bitzar on Saturday 23 April 16 13:01 BST (UK)
I know it's been a few years since the last post on this topic but just want to add that on a marriage record I've found in Swainswick for 1777, it lists Edward Ashley and Richard Ashley as witnesses.

Regards, Bitzar.
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: ruffer on Tuesday 25 July 17 17:56 BST (UK)
Ruffer
I am a descendant of George Ashley b 1760 Burnett and retired University historian.
George's father was William d.1784, who married Mary Bailey in 1753.
I suspect his grandfather was another William Ashley, farming 30 acres of glebe at Burnett in 1736, married to another Mary. He built a cottage 'on the void', and the arrangement was regularized in 1745 with the feoffees of the estate, naming his wife, Mary, and his son, William, as future possessors He is likely to be the William Ashley convicted of selling beer, etc in Burnett without licence. Though not conclusive, the evidence points to two William Ashleys, father and son. At the least, we need to look for a William Ashley, old enough to be farming in 1736.

The next step might be to look for William Ashleys born 1690/1700/1710. eg amongst the Ashleys at Laverton (Somerset), there is a William, b.1697.

Incidentally, the Ashley tenancy at Burnett was given up in 1755, though they continued to farm it as sub tenants until c 1800. The amalgamation of the Burnett farms may have forced George and his children into Bristol. It could make an interesting article!

Roger     
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: harrisonfam on Wednesday 17 January 18 20:14 GMT (UK)
Hi
I visited Burnett last spring and it is a beautiful little village with a manor house, the small St. Michael's Church & graveyard and Elm farm.The gravestones were worn down so that I couldn't read the names but William is said to be buried there. I descend through son George born 1760. Elm farm is still owned by the Paget family and they were very nice to invite us in and tell us more of the history. The house William Ashley lived in when he was the tennant is no longer there however., I think a barn has been built on that site. The current owner of the Manor house also invited us to tour the grounds with her, so it was great to be so close to the environs where our ancestors lived.
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: Liz in France on Thursday 18 January 18 14:25 GMT (UK)
Hi,

It sounds as though you had a great day at Burnett with a lot of kindness shown to you by the current occupiers.  It gives you a warm glow when people you do not know show such interest.

I am still looking for clues to my connection to the family of George b 1760 who seems to  be the most popular Ashley line.  My line is Thomas whose birth/baptism date I have yet to find.  He married Grace Jones in 1769 but a baptism is recorded for a son Thomas in 1768 before they were married.  This leads me to believe they were underage at the time but Thomas's death in 1815 shows an age of 62 thus making it about 1753 for his birth.  This would make him only about 16 when he married in 1769.

I have a provisional family for William Ashley and Mary Tines married 1730 at Berkly with a child Elizabeth baptised in Keynsham in 1735.    Finding parents of Ashley children baptised in Burnett and assuming they are the same family, I have added Sarah, James and William as well as Thomas to this 'make believe' family and then have Robert  1754 & George 1760 as baptised children of William & Mary included.   I know there is no proof of this and as I do not have the name of Mary Bailey in my tree and who seemed to have originated from Bath where there are a lot of Ashleys as well as in Laverton and Swainswick, I am sure someone will put me right as I now seem to be in a muddle with this family.

As the Ashleys are a direct line of my family, I would like to feel a bit more confident in what I have put on my tree.  The family obviously came from some where other than Burnett originally, but where?

Elizabeth
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: ruffer on Tuesday 06 February 18 17:43 GMT (UK)
To Liz in France and Harrisonfam

The marriage of William Ashley and Mary Tines at Berkley (Somerset, I guess) sounds interesting. I have been unable to find the source. Can you help? It might provide us with the bridegroom's home parish.
There seems to be no other reference to Ashleys at Keynsham apart from Elizabeth's baptism in 1734/5. They may have moved temporarily across the parish boundary from Burnett. Of course, that is surmise!
I have been plotting the glebe fields which William farmed on the manorial map of 1736 and adding the additional 94 acres which he or his son farmed in conjunction with William Willand by 1755, including Elm (Tree) Farm. As it hangs on the wall, I can see one possible site for the cottage on the void.
Ruffer
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: Liz in France on Tuesday 06 February 18 21:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Ruffer,

I got the marriage of William Ashley and Mary Tines from FreeReg.  There is no other information that will tell us the Bridegrooms parish, just the date 29th March 1730. 

There are a few other entries which I have taken provisionally as being the same family until such time as I can verify that they do belong together.
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: harrisonfam on Saturday 29 December 18 21:29 GMT (UK)
Robert Ashley is from Wrington,Somerset,  just down the road from Burnett.
He married Elizabeth Nuton (Newton) on  12 Feb 1712 in Taunton.
Elizabeth b. 26/7/1690 Taunton d. May 1734 in Wrington.
They had 7 sons and one daughter
Robert b. 28 Jun 1691 Wrington d. 5 Jan 1763 in Wrington

Robert's parents (I believe are William and Barbara)
Title: Re: ASHLEY family Burnett
Post by: Liz in France on Monday 31 December 18 19:49 GMT (UK)
Harrisonfam,

Thanks for that information.  I will make a note and follow it through.  It is so satisfying when you can move a brick wall and go into new pastures.  I'm not working on the Ashleys at the moment and I daren't look at it just yet as I will get waylaid and lose  my way on what I am doing now.

Happy New Year to you and all those looking for ancestors.