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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: little annie on Saturday 08 March 08 16:37 GMT (UK)
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looking any info James Harkin & Fanny McCallion (father Phillip) thanks for any help received
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Any idea of date marriage might have taken place? Also their religion?
Civil registration of Catholic marriages began 1864 and non-Catholic ones from 1845 so date is important. If before the above dates you have to search for church records (if they still exist). To do so you need to know the family's religion and where they lived (parish if not actual townland not just the county).
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Hi aghadowey
sorry about the delay getting back to you, I take it they were both catholic's as my grandfather was
He was born 1890 being the oldest so i was told they came from clonmany living around the isle of doagh having a farm their.
i think two brothers went to America one being killed riding the train's so the story goes in 1930's they had sisters but i don't know the names
I have checked IFHF record's their is a marriage under both names 1888
it's best i can do at the moment on the info i have
thank's little annie
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Mary McGoldrick (born Donegal Town around 1860's) married a Harkin. She lived at 4 Abercorn Road in Londonderry in 1921, when my great grandfather entered the US via Ellis Island.
Would anyone be able to lookup a marriage between Mary McGoldrick and Mr. Harkin? Thanks!
Lynn McGoldrick Franger
Aurora, Illinois, USA
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lynn,do you know mary's parents names.
regards mary.
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Hi Mary!
Mary McGoldrick Harkin's father was Francis McGoldrick, Senior, (1828-1896) who was a Publican on Main Street in Donegal Town. I am not sure of her mother's name.
Her siblings were Francis, Junior b 1860 or so (My great grandfather). John C. b. abt 1865, Catherine (Cassie), b. abt 1868, Margaret (Maggie), b abt 1872, James, b abt 1875, Joseph, b abt 1880, and Sarah or Sally and Patrick.
Francis, Jr. listed Mary, his sister as his nearest relative in Ireland when he entered Ellis Island in 1921. Interesting side note...Her house is on the market, pictures and all.
Lynn
Lynn
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1910 Ulster directory- Donegal town- lists a publican Michael McGolrick:
www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Donegal.php
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lynn, found this birth on familysearch.org.
JOHN MCGOLRICK 13-3-1879 DONEGAL,DONEGAL, IRE.
parents. FRANK (FRANCIS) MCGOLRICK & ANNIE MCBREARTY.
regards mary.
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JOHN MCGOLRICK 13-3-1879 DONEGAL,DONEGAL, IRE.
parents. FRANK (FRANCIS) MCGOLRICK & ANNIE MCBREARTY.
This is Francis, Jr., my great grandfather. He was a Baker.
Lynn
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1910 Ulster directory- Donegal town- lists a publican Michael McGolrick:
www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Donegal.php
I think Michael was the son of Bernard McGolrick. I think they may be related, but don't know. Perhaps Francis, Sr. and Bernard were brothers, or cousins?
Francis, Sr.'s parents were James and Elizabeth McGoldrick.
There are quite a few different ways I have seen McGoldrick spelled. M'Goldrick, McGolric, McGorlick and more.
Lynn
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Still looking for the harkin's, have been told by my cousins that we were related to Harkins who did once own the Ballyliffin hotel but who have now moved on any help on that thanks little annie
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Hi Wee Annie
A James Harkin of Carndonagh married a Fanny McCallion of Glenmakee in the Sacred Heart Church Carndonagh on 06/01/1888. Is that who you are looking for?
Patrick Ruddy
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Hello Patrick
It could be i will try to find out ,at least i now have a starting point to work on.
Thank you for your time in replying i hope it is one
Patrick
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Hello again Bald Eagle sorry for asking a stupid question a bit late i got a bit to excited, but how did you find this infomation.
yours gratefully Little Annie
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Hello Again Little Annie
It was among some information that I copied in Carndonagh Library. I photocopied some page from BMD entrys they have in printout form.
My mother was also McCallion (different parish)and her grandparents were also married in Carndonagh and the entry I sent you happened to be on the same page.
Going by that you should now be able to get a copy of the marriage from the Registers Office in Letterkenny as they were married after 1864. A full copy is about 9 euro. I do not know where you are situated but if you require the address in Letterkenny let me know and I will pass it on to you.
P.s. I can understand the excitment that comes when information is found. Been there etc.
Anyway I wish you well with your search.
Patrick
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Hello Patrick
would be great to have the address as i live in Birmingham, it also might help some one else reading this.
Cannot thank you enough for your few minutes of help good luck in your search
Patrick
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I live in Carndonagh. I was in the Library today looking at old records.I have Harkins from Leenan,Clonmany in my Family Tree. I looked up your Harkins this is what i found. I live a few miles from Ballybeg.
James Harkin/Fanny McCallion Camatha/ Ballybeg ,Carndonagh
Brigid Born 17/5/1894
Joseph " 11/6/1899
Sara 17/6/1900
Mary 23/51891
Micheal 12/9/1892
Patrick 1/3/1898
John 14/9/1896
Agnes
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James Born 12/3/1890
Parents James Harkin/Fanny Harkin Camatha,Carndonagh
Agnes
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Me Again
Here is the address
The Civil Registration Office
Tirconaill House
Letterkenny
County Donegal
Ireland.
Phone Number 074 9124576.
You will need to check out the phone number as it will be slightly different from where you are.
I see Rosee has sent you some more info so that should be of further help.
All the best to everyone searching in this area.
Patrick :)
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Thank You Bald Eagle & Rossee you are both Fantastic for going out your way to help.
I am pretty sure they are the ones i am looking for yours gratefully
Patrick O'Connor
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Hi Agnes
I may have sent you a similar message to your e.mail address ???. I made some kind of mistake so I will try and do what I intended.
Could you perhaps do me a favour. The next time you are in Carn Library could you have a look at the death records. When I was in I was in a bit of a rush and never got round to it. I am trying to find out what became of the Ruddy's (Reddy's, Roddy's) of Glentogher. I Know where most of the Ruddy's of Kellystown went but can find nothing about The Glentogher except for one.
I have copies of the marriage and birth info and as I will not be back in Ireland this year it would be great if you could find anything in those printouts :)
Many Thanks
Patrick Ruddy
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Hi Patrick
Found info on Ruddys of Glentogher on Ancestry for you. I don't know if they are your family but they may be of use to someone.
Sailing from Derry on 15 June 1909
MGT Ruddy age 19, Father Bernard Glentogher, going to Boston cousin John Harold 22 Church ST Dorchester.
From Derry on 13 Oct 1929
Brigid Roddy, age 37 Ladys maid, Single, Father Bernard Glentogher, Returning to 86 Bumper Hill St,Charlestown.
June 1913, Cassie Ruddy, 18 yrs Glentogher,Next of kin Wm Callaghan,Glentogher, going to her Aunt Mrs Kate Doherty 201 Benifit St ,Pendlaton,Oregon.
OCT 1906, Susan Ruddy ,17 yrs Glentogher, going to Mother Mrs Mary Hirl, Pendleton, Vernon,Oregon.
14 Oct 1914 Annie Ruddy 24 yrs, William 25 yrs Bro&Sis Next of Kin Uncle Bernard Ruddy, Glentogher, going to Mother Mary Hirl Heppner,Morrow Co, Oregon.
20 Feb 1926 Brigid Roddy 34 yrs, Father B Roddy, Kellystown,Glentogher. Going to Cousin, Mrs M Harrad ,the Powley Mill Village N.H.
1920 Census for Heppner,Oregon.
Philip Hirl 51 Head Farm Manager Born Ire
Mary A 51 Wife Born Ire
Charles Son 11 Born Ore
Edwin J Son 12 " "
William Ruddy 31 Stepson Born Ire
Charles Hirl 52 Bro Born Ire.
I will look up the Death Records in a few days.
Agnes
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Hi again Agnes
Thank you for the information you have posted. I have most of this except for the Oregon censes but I had not noticed something. As far as I know the Ruddy's who went to Oregon were the Ruddy's of Kellystown. They were the children of Mary Ann Doherty and William Ruddy who had 3 children, Cassie, William and Susan. William Ruddy sen died about 1893 and his wife went to America (Boston)c 1900 and left the children with their grandparent. She later met and married a Phil Hirl (also from Glentogher) in Oregon c1910 and brought the children after this but this leaves the question "Who is Ann?" but at this point it is not important.
There were 2 groups of Ruddy's in the same area. 1 in Kellystown and the other in Carrowmore which I believe both come under Glentogher and it is the group in Carrowmore I am interested in as I believe my ggrandmother was one of this group and I can find little of them so I am hoping that the death records may hold even a little.
Anyway Agnes many thanks again for your information and the effort you have put into it. :) :)
Patrick
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What was your G/mothers name in Carramore. Have you got the 1901 & 1911 Census for them.
Agnes
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Hello
This is where life can get complex. My ggrandmothers name was Mary Ruddy who married a Denis McCallion Iskaheen parish. We were told she was from Glentogher and the fact that she married in Carn goes a way to prove that. I have other information that add to that but it is trying to find which group of Ruddy's she fits into.
I believe I know now that she fits into the Carrowmore (Glentogher) group but they in turn are related in some way to the Kellystown group but how we will never know now but little proof I have for this is long and difficult to explain. I think I have the 1901 censes for 2 of what I believe to be Mary's brothers.
My surname is Ruddy because my mother married a Ruddy of Muff parish who are not related to the Ruddy's of Carndonagh parish so far as we can tell. these Ruddys are difficult to research also as there would seem to be no siblings for my grandfather or indead his father so very little information there either.
Anyway Agnes I will cut this short but if you want to know how I reached my conclusion I will send it ot your private contact address but it is rather long and will take some time to put together so I will say goodnight for now
Patrick ::) ::) ::)
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Patrick
7 Aug 1926,Sailing from Derry. Anne Roddy 30 yrs, next of kin Bro Wm Roddy,Tromaty,Quigleys Pt,going to cousin Ms Annie O'Donnell,5 Jackson St,Newton Centre,Boston.
Border Crossing from Canada, Sailing from Greenock Scotland 30 Oct 1926. Edward Roddy 30 yrs Single ,Last Address Kilmacola Scotland. Next of kin Bro Wm Roddy Tromaty Quigleys PT,going to cousin James Feeney 4743 Maxwell Ave,Detroit Michigan
1911 Census for Three trees
Denis McCallion 78 married 46 yrs 7 children
Mary Ruddy Wife 73 yrs
Mgt dau 40 Single
Sarah " 35 "
Annie " 33 "
Bridget " 31 "
1901 Census Tromaty Muff
William Ruddy 60 yrs
Frances 30 Wife
Patrick son 6
Edward " 4
Anne dau 4
Bernard son 2
Bridget Lafferty 50 Sister in law
I checked the Death Records in the Library. There are no Ruddy or Hirrell deaths listed.
Agnes
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Hi Agnes
Thank you so much for the superb information you have sent. I really can't thank you enough for this. Like all things in genealogy as soon as you find a piece anothe appears which is what I suppose makes it all the more interesting so with that in mind I will now try and find the connection to James Feeney as this surname has not croped up before.
I know how the O'Donnell's fit in so no concerns with that I just hope in some way I may be able to find another Ruddy/Roddy through this Feeney link.
The 1901 and 1911 censes I have for both these familys I have but well done for looking this up none the less you went an extra mile with that and once again thank you so much
Patrick
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Hello again
I am back on the Harkin trail, looking for info on John Nelson born in 1888, & Sarah Harkin born Ballybeg 1892, married when? and any children,record found on LDS, but that's all I know.
I have talked to my Auntie and she remember's them coming to Derry when she was young.
Thank you if you can help me
Little Annie
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;D Hello Lynn, Please contact me I do believe, I might be able to help you.
Bosco Harkin (*)
Mary McGoldrick (born Donegal Town around 1860's) married a Harkin. She lived at 4 Abercorn Road in Londonderry in 1921, when my great grandfather entered the US via Ellis Island.
Would anyone be able to lookup a marriage between Mary McGoldrick and Mr. Harkin? Thanks!
Lynn McGoldrick Franger
Aurora, Illinois, USA
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Hello Rosee, Do you know Maura Harkin of Convent Road and where is Ballybeg located?
Bosco Harkin (*)
I live in Carndonagh. I was in the Library today looking at old records.I have Harkins from Leenan,Clonmany in my Family Tree. I looked up your Harkins this is what i found. I live a few miles from Ballybeg.
James Harkin/Fanny McCallion Camatha/ Ballybeg ,Carndonagh
Brigid Born 17/5/1894
Joseph " 11/6/1899
Sara 17/6/1900
Mary 23/51891
Micheal 12/9/1892
Patrick 1/3/1898
John 14/9/1896
Agnes
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Hello again
I have just received a copy of the marriage certificate of James & Fanny.
It gives the year of the marriage has 6/1/1889 not 88.
James living in Carndonagh i cannot make out his fathers name as i think they shortend it to J A harkin which would match other members of the family, both are given as farmers.
Fanny's father was called Michael not Philip as in a previous message sorry if i wasted anyone's time , can not make out proffession only it looks like the letters W O ? .
Witness's were Bernard McLaughlin & Kate MCallion
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Hi Celtic Gael (or anyone else)
Do you happen to know if the original parish records are held in the Sacred Heart Church in Carn. I made inquiries there a few years ago but the Parish Priest proved to be rather off handed so I did not persue it but perhaps it may be worth another try.
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There is copies of the Carndonagh Births/Marriages records in the Library from 1850 --1900. I can do a search for you. Let me know what you want .
Agnes
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Hi Agnes
I have photo copies of pages from Carndonagh but what I would like to see is the original entries. I would like to see if they would yield more information than the printouts in Carn Library. I may be in Carn in the spring and if the originals were in the church I would try and make an appointment with the secretary and see if it was possible to view them.
Thanks again for your offer of help and your reply
Patrick
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Hello again
My cousin from Derry told me today,that my Harkin's lived in a cottage belonging to the railway called the Gate Lodge at Straws bridge.
I don't know if he worked for them or not, any info on this one would be great always appreciated
Little Annie
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Hi Little Annie
Would this be your family in the 1911 Census Donegal.
House No 4 Straths Ballyliffin.
James Harkin 50 Farmer
Fanny 42 Wife
James 21 Son
Bridget 16 dau
Philip 7son
Fanny 4 dau
Cassie 3 dau
Anne 1 dau
Married 22 yrs 13 Children born 11 still alive
Ballyliffin is in Clonmany Parish.
Agnes
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Hello Rossee
Thank you for your post, yes they are my family from the look of it it all seems to add up,mind you did i not know about Philip that's a new one on me.
The land belong to the The LondonDerry & Loughswilly railway that is where the railway part come from my late mother always said her granddad had something to do about the railway .
I was wondering are the Harkins from Rasheeny related to mine as my G father James 1890 put on his marriage certificate as living in Rasheeny by 1916.
thank you for going out your way to help a fellow Root's chatter
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Hello Again
Where could i find any past record's of the railway if any .
Little Annie
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Birth/Baptism record for Fanny McCallion 24/2/1871.
Address Meendacalliagha Buncrana (House no 13 on 1911 census)
Father Michael McCallion, Farmer
Mother Sarah McLoughlin (McLaughlin) etc
Any more help would be great at least i now have another piece of the jigsaw
Little Annie
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Do you have this record?- IGI lists a daughter of Michael NcCallion and Sally McLoughlin- Mary born 21 June 1866 Buncrana district, Co. Donegal (page 119 in civil register).
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Marriage Cert 6/1/1889 of James Harkin Carndonagh to Fanny Mccallion Glenmakee Carndonagh. Are you sure you have the correct birth cert when it says her address is Glenmakee on the marriage cert. Have you got the original Marriage Cert.
Agnes
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Little Annie =I have access to Clonmany Births pre 1900 and Marriages up to 1949 thanks to Daniel j Devlin. On 21 Nov 1922 Sarah Harkin, Father James, Straws, married James Doherty, Mindoran Clonmany, Father Mannasses, Bestman John Harkin Straws, Bridesmaid Ellen Doherty Mindoran.
Agnes
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Hello Aghadowey & Rossee
No i don't have that record on Sally thank you for that info.
I do have a copy of the marriage of James & Fanny which i got from Letterkenny not too sure on your last post will try to find out more info thank you for your reply.
Little Annie
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Hi Little Annie
In a book I have there is a short verse which read
The Swilly
There's a railway in Derry, the Swilly you know
That is famed for going exceedingly slow
It leaves Londonderry about ten minutes late
And if they don't watch, it may run through the gate
In five minutes more, a whistle is heard
And old Lizzie Harkin is getting prepared
Proceeding along, and turning a bend
The train shortly reaches that station Bridge End
At the next stop, a man in a navy-cut suit
Calls out that the train has arrived at Burnfoot.
In brackets below this it says
(Lizzie Harkin was the crossing-keeper at Galliagh Road)
Just wonder if this Lizzie is yours. :)
;)
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Hi Bald Eagle
Don't know if the person is related ,but you never know traveling this journey thanks for the poem and time taken ,nice bit of light entertainment
Little Annie
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Hello Rossee
The marriage record for Sarah Harkin & James Doherty, would the name straws be a nickname and was her father alive or deceased.
Little Annie
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Sarah Harkin, Father James Harkin Straws/Straths,Ballyliffin as in 1911 Census. I also found this document when searching for my Clonmany Harkins.
Declaration of passenger to Canada 24 Aug 1923
Mick Harkin 27 yrs, born Rasheeny Clonmany Donegal ,going to live permanently in Canada.
Destined to Montreal, Windsor Hotel, C/O friend M. McGrath. Father James Harkin Rasheeny Clonmany.
Agnes
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Hello Rossee
Looks like my family, I believe three brothers went to Amerrica via Canada one being killed riding the trains, at present i don't know which side of the border as i was told thanks again Rossee
Little Annie
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Ireland in maps, Harkin name in co. Donegal particulary in Inishowen often apears in the Hearth money rolls. Could not find McCallion on the maps.
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Hi Rathmore
McCallion is not an easy one. I found it on the Flax List but nothing earlier. I have not looked up Ireland on maps. :(
The name McCallion is a variant of the Scottish name Campbell see www.libraryireland.com for a more indepth explination.
:)
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Census 1911
House no 13 meendacalliagh (illies ,Donegal)
Sarah McCallion .....aged 80
Philip McCallion.......aged 45 son
Rose McCallion ......aged 27 Daughter in law
Margaret McCallion ...aged 4 Grand daughter
Sarah McCallion....aged 5 Grand daughter
John McCallion.... aged 11 Grandson
Michael McCallion....aged 7 Grandson
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According to my cousin the Harkins from Mindoran are my granddads cousins not to sure which ones yet though , any help anyone .
Little Annie
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Looking at the 1911 census for Michael Harkin aged 18 I have found one that would match his age, as living with his uncle Hugh Harkin in Moneydarragh,Gleneel Also possible his sister Anne aged 16 just wondering have i the correct one
Little Annie
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Hello again
I was wondering is there any McCallions from the illes that can put a connection to mine as my cousin from Derry confirmed that is the area they came from
Thanks always Little Annie
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Hi
Interesting this. A late uncle of mine was told that the McCallions I am interested in came from the Illies. He said they were from a place in the Illies called Stoneanderson (or perhaps something that sounded like that) but I have never been able to find a place by that name.
As to much time has passed and the people who could have supplied the answers are now gone I'm afraid proof of this is unlikely to be found, but if anyone knows of such a place it would be interesting none the less
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Hello Bald Eagle
Do you have any names for your McCallions
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Hi Little Annie
The earliest McCallion was Denis born c1796. He married a Mary Sweeney(born c1802) from Milford Co Donegal. They lived and raised a family in the parish of Muff (aka Iskaheen) Co Donegal. If Denis was born and raised in Muff I really have no idea.
They had a number of children there and at least 2 of them went to Australia c 1856.
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I have found a record on the LDS site for a Mary McCallion born June 21 1866 & Michael McCallion 24/12/1868 Buncrana .
Parents Michael McCallion & Sarah McLoughlin .
At a (guess) i would say this is Fanny & Catherine sister & brother any infomation always welcome
Little Annie
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This is a long shot. Fanny's marriage cert stated residence Glenmakee, in the 1901 census there is a John McCallion in glenmakee i wonder if they were related .
Little Annie
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Question, if i purchase a deceased record will it show parents ?
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If you mean a death certificate, here's the details included (parents' names are not shown):
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433043.0.html
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Thank you aghadowey , yes that is what i mean & was hoping it may have shown the parents.
Little Annie
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I now have Michael McCallion's date of death it is given as 4/3/1910 aged 87,
his son Philip is given as present.
Going of the subject slightly James & his Sister Annie are living at no 7 meendacalligh with nephews & niece.
I take it these are Kate McCallions 3 children Owen ,James, Margaret McDaid.
Looking at the 1911 census around Meendacalliagh it seems quite a few of the McCallions are related
Little Annie
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Is this my 3x grandfather James Harkin married Bridget Quigley 21/5/1865 Ballyliffin .
I hope i can use this record according to Clonmany marriage record's
Little Annie
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After trying to track down the McCallion's side without to much luck.
I tried the desperate measure and used the phone directory, success at last the family member does not have a computer so would never made contact.
So with all the infomation with common family first names etc & area the family lived in i give a long shot, but it does help not being a large town
Little Annie
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Is this my 3x grandfather James Harkin married Bridget Quigley 21/5/1865 Ballyliffin .
I hope i can use this record according to Clonmany marriage record's
Little Annie
Hi Annie,
This is my GRT GRT Grandad, do you have an email or tree, James son Patrick was the father of my grandad James who married Sarah Doherty, we are definatly connected
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Hi Lozza 123456
It does seem we are connected ? i just need the missing jigsaw to finally put this one to bed & hopefully find out where the Harkins are buried etc.
You need to put three post before i or you can PM me, i know there are dohertys in the family need to ask my cousin again from Derry.
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Hi Annie, I am new to roots chat and cannot seem to reply to your message, my grandfather James Harkin married a Sarah Doherty they lived in Altashane, Clonmany, James Father was patrick who married a Margaret Davenport, Patricks Father was James who married Bridget Quiqley. Please advise me how I private message you an email address and then I can send you a copy of the tree. Regards Lorraine
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New members usually need 3 posts to use PM (Personal Message) system.
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Thanks, I have sorted now, Brilliant thanks again
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Hi Annie, I am new to roots chat and cannot seem to reply to your message, my grandfather James Harkin married a Sarah Doherty they lived in Altashane, Clonmany, James Father was patrick who married a Margaret Davenport, Patricks Father was James who married Bridget Quiqley. Please advise me how I private message you an email address and then I can send you a copy of the tree. Regards Lorraine
New topic here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,627301.0.html
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I have just found out James Harkins 1890 ! god parents were Neal & Cassie McCallion are they brother & sister or married ?
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On my previous post I failed to put the location of James address on his baptism because I thought it was a misspelling thinking it was Carndonagh ! , this is how it is spelt Carnadagh is there such a place ?
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The address I think should read Carndoagh a little help from my friends Clonmany Genealogy
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Has anyone come across information about Michael McCallion (1861) and Annie McLaughlin (1862)? Michael's parents: Michael McCallion(abt 1840) and Biddy McGonigle or McGonagle (abt 1840). Annie's parents James McLaughlin and Hash Canning (both abt 1840)
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I should have put this on a long time ago while searching for Michael Harkin, heading to the USA .
Jan 20 1910 ship California
Michael Harkin aged 18 born Clonmany, father James Harkin Glebe Clonmany, final address Boston travelling to see cousin Daniel Reddy (Ruddy) ? 212 A##erville Boston, Michael died riding the trains burial place still not known exactly
Little Annie
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Hi, I am wondering about the significance of the nickname 'Fizz' McCallions? Any help much appreciated. Thanks
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Just wondering! Found a record on the tithe applotments of 1831 meendacalliagh of John and Philip Mccallion are they connected? To my Michael McCallion ie father.
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Where is Michael in 1901/1911 census!! He is not at the family home etc. I have a Michael age 9 at house 7 carrowmore (glentogher) as nephew But as a son in 1911? But a Michael is aged 18 as nephew in moneydarragh?
Little annie
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Just seen this Bridget potts Mclaughlin married a Bernard Fullerton 1897!! Had several children Michae,l Mary, Bernard, Ellen, Catherine, Niell and Charles.
Little Annie
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I’m sure this is not helpful but, my grandmother born about 1892ish was called Sarah Harkin. My mom told me that information. She :-\ :-\told me lots but I was young and stupid. 40 years later I now wish I remembered or wrote everything down.
Anyway, my Sarah Harkin went to Canada (no idea when) but married before or after, my grandfather John Hughes (who was a twin) and they had two children James and Mary (my mom). Not that interesting I can hear you say, however they had a relation, that my mom called Aunt Cassie. Married name Dixon. Cassie lived in America and persuaded my grandfather to cross the boarder into the USA and they became bootleggers. Cassie was heavly involved in this. He was in and out of clink as my mom called it, and she and her brother was in and out of children’s homes. In 1932 :-\The family, that now had another daughter called Cecelia (American citizen) all got deported back to ireland. This is obviously not much without paperwork, but if they were related, it might give you some clues
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Hello thanks for that interesting story!! I think most of us hear but never have the ability to hold that information when very young etc my great auntie Sarah married a Nelson.
She might be related to me? I presume Sarah was from Donegal?
I also presume you are new to this genealogy! So I recommend you start you own thread on Donegal give as much information as you can plus have you checked the Irish census of 1901/11
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Philip Mccallion son of Micheal and Sarah!!
Is living at the family home with his mother, wife aged 27 and children in the 1911 census.
Now my questions are this! oldest child is 11 and his wife is Rose Maiden name is unknown but could be Mcdade but he was not married in 1901?
This so confusing the nearest wedding to a Rose is Granny 1891 or 1905 both to Phil Mccallion, Maybe a few smarter people in this group can help me out cheers Little annie ::)
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For reference: McCallion - 1911 Irish Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Illies/Meendacalliagh/492353/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002085723/
Note that they are married 6 years, three children born, two still living. So married about 1905. How about this?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10152/5693889.pdf
Sarah Ann born 7th January 1906 at Cruckahenny.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01751/1690630.pdf
KG :)
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The boys John and Michael are grandsons of Sarah not necessarily sons of Rose.
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The townland of Meendacalliagh, civil parish of Fahan Lower.
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-west/fahan-lower/illies/meendacalliagh/
KG ;D
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Birth of James McCallion - 20th April 1909 at Meendahallagh (Meendacalliagh).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01613/1646830.pdf
KG :)
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Death of James McCallion - 1st January 1911 at Meendahallagh.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05404/4509421.pdf
KG
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Cancel that
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Sorry about delay getting back to you all and appreciate your help and yes I think the 2 oldest grandchildren of Sarah belong to another son!
So we have the marriage of Philip Mccallion and Rose McDaid married in St Columba RC church Moville January 1905
Father's Micheal McCallion and Cornelius McDaid, Cruckahenny.
Hopefully some of Roses family may enlighten me cheers little annie
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Just come across a missing family member to Fanny McCallion her sister Sarah !! She married Micheal Grant 1889 in st Mary's cock hill .
So any grants connected to Sarah cheers little Annie
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......her sister Sarah !! She married Micheal Grant 1889 in st Mary's cock hill .
Just adding for information-
Marriage 28th February 1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10723/5909603.pdf
KG ;)
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Any BDM Reg will be in Inishowen District so a Search like this will get them.
If you want Marriages tick Marriage box plus Year Ranges or change Surname etc
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Website https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Info https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
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Does anyone know a Sarah Harkin(s) who born around 1892 (I think) in Donegal, or possibly Canada and married a John Hughes around 1915? They had three children, James and Mary in Canada then Cecelia in the USA. I would be very grateful if something rings a bell if you could let me know.
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At last I have found my 3 x grandparents after 11years plus! James Harkin married Bridget McConologue 1856 in Carndonagh. What a tough journey my late mother said she was a mcgonigal but never heard the name etc
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Thanks for Anne Marie Diver for finding this information the children Of James and Bridget Harkin are Bernard born 1861,John 1862,Mary 1859, Joseph 1866,James 1857.
Baptisiam records
Mary 11/8/1859 godparents Dominic Doherty, Anne Doherty
Bernard 18/11/1861 Godparents Dominic Doherty, Anne Doherty
James 5/12/1857 godparents John Toland, Anne McConologue
John 27/9/1862 godparents Bernard McConologue, Elisabeth Nelson
Joseph 27/7/1866 godparents Daniel McConologue, Margaret McFall
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Thanks for Anne Marie Diver for finding this information the children Of James and Bridget Harkin are Bernard born 1861,John 1862,Mary 1859, Joseph 1866,James 1857.
Joseph 1866......born in the townland of Carndoagh. #406
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03519/2294312.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-east/donagh/carndonagh/carndoagh/
KG
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1911 Irish census shows the brother of James Harkin living in Cashel,Gleneel, donegal with possible relations.
Daniel McConologue 33
Elizabeth McConologue 30 wife. Maiden name is Green married in 1907
William Joseph aged 3
Mary Frances. aged 1
Micheal. aged 3 months
Patrick Harkin, servant aged 14
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Little Annie =I have access to Clonmany Births pre 1900 and Marriages up to 1949 thanks to Daniel j Devlin. On 21 Nov 1922 Sarah Harkin, Father James, Straws, married James Doherty, Mindoran Clonmany, Father Mannasses, Bestman John Harkin Straws, Bridesmaid Ellen Doherty Mindoran.
Agnes
Well Rossee it's seems you definitely found the right information on my grandfathers sister! According to my cousin James brother Philip moved to Derry and lived in Abbey street according to my cousin. It seems Sarah and James left donegal and was in the victualler business!? They or a child moved back to the inishown area in later years.
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I now know when my ggrandparents died ie 1924 within months of each other! Fanny 1St James being the witness at death, but James witness was his daughter Mary Grant.
But I cannot find a marriage for Mary harkin marrying a Grant? But I found a Sarah Mccallion marriage to a Grant same father as Fanny etc maybe the neice?
Cheers little annie
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Both your gt grandparents died in the townland of Straths.
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-east/donagh/ballyliffin/straths/
KG
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Thanks for the precise location Kiltaglasson! Just two more questions for anyone can anyone make out James cause of death, I can see acute but not make out the rest plus last question what would be grave yards to that area cheers Patrick
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Acute nephritis 6 weeks certified
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The missing sister Mary!
Well after all this searching I thought OK no more surprises until now, looking at both census of 1901/11 I thought I had the whole family but not so.
Mary born 10 July 1891 married John Grant 1911,
I can only presume either the parents had little money or Fanny was finding it difficult to cope with 2 young babies so she was passed of to another member of the family. I have found one of Mary being a niece with the farren family but records of marriage, ages, don't add up nothing new there.
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Much easier for us if you post links rather than files that need to be downloaded and also include all details for information you found.
Here's a Mary Harkin (as niece) with Farren family in 1901- but she was born in America according to census-
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Tremone/Drumaville/1186400/
In 1911 still with Farrens (as servant) and still born in America-
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Turmone/Drumaville/496537/
So, how do you figure that's the correct Mary Harkin in census records as the 1891 birth in Donegal?
Here's the 1911 Grant/Harkin marriage-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09948/5616567.pdf
children-
Mary (1912)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01492/1606530.pdf
Owen (1913)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01441/1589935.pdf
Fanny (1915)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01387/1570414.pdf
James (1916)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01344/1554575.pdf
Patrick (1917)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01304/1539319.pdf
Bridget (1919)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01248/1518550.pdf
could be younger children whose births are less than 100 years ago.
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Hi Aghadowey
Bit of a error on my part putting Mary with the Farren family as I failed to drag across place of birth etc thank you for correcting my mistake.
But that still means where was Mary living and who with etc maybe a family member of the grant family could enlighten me if not public maybe private. Cheers little annie
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Possible death of Mary Grant in 1934 aged 42- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1934/04843/4313644.pdf
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I have a marriage for James Harkin and Sarah Doherty April 21 1938 ballyliffin for him and Altashane Carndonagh for her. James father Patrick Harkin and Daniel Doherty witness John McColgan and Cassie Nelson.
Cassie was my mothers God mother.
So any decendents of James and Sarah that can help me move forward on this one cheers little annie
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I have a marriage for James Harkin and Sarah Doherty April 21 1938 ballyliffin for him and Altashane Carndonagh for her. James father Patrick Harkin and Daniel Doherty witness John McColgan and Cassie Nelson.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1938/08879/5211008.pdf
Ballyliffin townland
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-east/clonmany/ballyliffin/ballyliffin/
Altashane townland
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-east/donagh/carndonagh/altashane/
KG
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I have finally cracked the relationship to the Devlin family with the help of a family decendent, Michael McCallions sister Catherine married Michael Devlin and set up home in Foffenagh
Little annie
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I have finally cracked the relationship to the Devlin family with the help of a family decendent, Michael McCallions sister Catherine married Michael Devlin and set up home in Foffenagh
Little annie
I just noticed this post. Michael Devlin and Catherine McCallion of Foffenagh are my great great grandparents. I'm descended from their daughter Fanny Devlin who married Owen Bradley of Meenamullaghan.
Now I'll go back and read it all.....:)
mab
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Hello Mab
Anything you know about the Mccallions would be great etc are you on ancestry? Cheers little annie
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Hello
Yes I have a private tree on Ancestry. Here is a wee bit of what I know about the McCallions. Still a work in progress.
I suspected and now have established that Catherine McCallion was the daughter of Philip McCallion of Meendacalliagh (aka Turk) via DNA matches.
Philip McCallion is on the 1831 Tithe Applotment in Meendacalliagh along with a John McCallion. Don't know who John is as yet.
Philip was dead by the time the 1858 Griffiths was taken as his name has been replaced by that of Michael McCallion as his rep. There is also a James McCallion and John McCallion. I have the original page of the Griffiths book showing this change very kindly given to me by a descendant of Michael.
Just as an FYI...."Reps of," is an abbreviation for “Representatives of” and is used to indicate that the individual named in the valuation was dead at the time it was taken and that his or her legal interest in the holding was being temporarily represented by a family member etc.
I have found the following children so far for Philip McCallion.
1) Michael McCallion born about 1823 and died 04 Mar 1910 in Meendacalliagh age 87, married. Informant: Philip McCallion, son, Meendacalliagh.. He married Sarah "Sally" McLaughlin. Sarah was born about 1842 and died 15 Dec 1913 age 71, widow. Informant: Kate McDaid, 38 Rossville Street, Derry. Kate was her daughter.
2) Anne McCallion born abut 1804 and died in Meendacalliagh on 01 Mar 1869. Age 65, single. Informant: Mick McCallion, householder, Meendacalliagh. Still not sure about her but she is a possible sibling of Michael McCallion as he was the informant at her death.
3) John McCallion born about 1811 died 05 Feb 1890 in Meendacalliagh age 79 Married. Informant: Philip McCallion, son, Meendacalliagh. He is the John in the 1858 Griffiths I mentioned above.
John married a Rose ?? Various researchers believe her surname is Donaghey but as yet no proof. Rose died 28 Feb 1896 age 87, widow. Informant: Cassie McCallion, present at death, Meendacalligh. I believe Cassie is probably the wife of Rose's son Philip McCallion.
4) Catherine McCallion born about 1815 and died 31 Oct 1897 at the Rock (Foffenagh) age 81, married. Informant: Michael Devlin most probably her husband. Michael Devlin was born about 1820 and died Rock age 86, widower. Informant: Philip Devlin, present at death, Rock. Philip was his son.
There are probably other children for Philip yet to be discovered.
Mary Ann aka mab
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Just when you think you have all the family members another one pops up! Got no idea how i missed this one? Joseph Harkin born January 29 1914 to James & fanny, i cannot find a marriage or death so what happened to Joseph is the question as i have never known his name mentioned cheers little Annie
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I don't have him either. I haven't looked at that family in ages.
BTW I have a Seragh Harkin as a child of James and Fanny....no idea where I got that from??? Must take a look and see who she is.
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Ah I did find a baptism for a Sarah Harkin but not a birth and she married James Doherty in 1922 :)