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Title: Thomas Irvine
Post by: anneben on Tuesday 11 March 08 22:45 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any information on a Thomas Irvine and Jane Murray they were married December 9 1845 and I think they were born in Shetland. I have their children's names which are William born 1847, Ellen born 1850 and Thomas born 1859. I would appreciate any information.
Ann Benson
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 March 08 23:13 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

I can't find them at the moment on the 1851 census but here is the 1861 for Delting Shetland - address was Stony Cots and all  b Delting except Mary Gilbertson

Jane Irvine 41  farms 3 acres
William   14 
Helen  10  (could this be Ellen)
Elisabeth  8
Ursula   6
Johanna   3 
Thomas  1 
Agnes Nicolson 30  visitor
Christian Nicolson 62  visitor 
Jane Nicolson 2  visitor
Mary Gilbertson 22  Lerwick  - visitor
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: anneben on Tuesday 11 March 08 23:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks for responding so quickly, it could be them, I will have to look into their DOB and DOD.
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 March 08 23:24 GMT (UK)
Just found them on the 1851 indexed as Irwin  Address Lepthi Gardens Firth  Delting

Thomas   30  b Swinister farmer & seaman (could explain his absence in 1861)
Jane   32     ditto
William   4   ditto
Ellen   6 Months b Firth
Anny Maudt?? 10  servant
Barbara Cooper 22  servant
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 March 08 23:29 GMT (UK)
per IGI

URSULA IRVINE  Birth:  12 NOV 1855    Christening:  1855   Delting, Shetland  Father:  THOMAS IRVINE    Mother:  JANE MURRAY

HELEN IRVINE  Birth:  18 OCT 1850   Christening:  09 MAR 1851   Delting    Father:  THOMAS IRVINE   Mother:  JANE MURRAY

JOAN IRVINE  Birth:  02 DEC 1856   Delting
Father:  THOMAS IRVINE   Mother:  JANE MURRAY

ELISABETH IRVINE Birth: 28 JUN 1852  Christening:  18 NOV 1852   Delting  Father:  THOMAS IRVINE   Mother:  JANE MURRAY 

Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 March 08 23:38 GMT (UK)
1871 for Delting - address was Uphouse and all b Delting  Not shown whether Jane is married or widowed

Jean Irvine 55 occ =  cottier
Thomas 11
Christina Nicolson 77 lodger
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: Isles on Tuesday 11 March 08 23:41 GMT (UK)
Hallo Ann,
Firstly - a warm welcome to Rootschat.  You'll find everyone here very ready to help and advise.
In addition to William (23 Sep 1846), Helen (18 Oct 1850), and Thomas (24 Jun 1859) there were Elisabeth (28 Jun 1852), Ursula (12 Nov1855) and Joan (2 Dec 1856), all born at Delting.

FamilySearch.org shows 5 Thomas Deltings born between 1817 and 1820:

Thomas  4 Dec 1817 Delting  -  Parents: John Irvine & Margaret Anderson.
      "       11 May 1817 Whalsay - Parents: Laurance & Jan Johnston

      "       27 Apr 1818  Sandsting & Aithsting  -  Parents; Andrew Irvine & Elizabeth Yell.
Thomas   22 Jan 1819 Nesting  -  Father: William.
      "        1820 Delting  -  William Irvine & Marion Johnston.

I should mention that the Thomas born 11 May 1817 and the one born 1820 are entries submitted by LDS members and would need to be checked against ScotlandsPeople. The others are taken from the parish registers and can be depended upon.
Either the 1851 or the 1861 census of Delting would give the father's birthplace.
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 March 08 23:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Isles

Please see my replies above
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 March 08 23:49 GMT (UK)
1881 census for Thomas jnr

Brewrey Isle Nesting Lunnas Whalsay Skerri
 
Thomas IRVINE 35 b Delting  Fisherman & Crofter
Helen  43 b Lunnasting Shetland
James  7 b Skerries Shetland
Anderina  4 b Skerries
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 12 March 08 00:04 GMT (UK)
A possible marriage for Joan Irvine and a possible (if strange) 1881 entry

JOAN IRVINE   Spouse:  ROBERT ROBERTSON
Marriage:  13 JUL 1875   Lerwick
 
1881

Hall Of Grobsness Delting

Robert ROBERTSON   36 b Delting Handicap- Blind    Occ: Sailor
Joan ANDERSON 28 b Delting wife
Jean Robinna  1 month b Delting
Title: Re: Thomas Irvine
Post by: Isles on Wednesday 12 March 08 00:42 GMT (UK)
The Shetland family history home page website (bayanne.info/Shetland) has a huge database on the families of Shetland.  It shows that Thomas Irvine was born 4 Dec 1817 at Swinister, Delting, his parents being John Irvine (b. about 1790 Swinister) and Margaret Anderson (b. 1789 Northmavine ).  They were married  20 Nov 1811 Delting. 
John died before 1851 and Margaret died 10 Oct 1856 Sandside, Delting. The site has more information on this Irvine family.

Isles.