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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: genjen on Wednesday 19 March 08 14:07 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am hoping that someone might be able to help me to find photographs or information about the following shops in Middlesbrough, all of which were targeted by my light-fingered 3 x great grandmother who spent the last fifteen years of her life ( at least) in and out of Northallerton Gaol. The timescale is roughly 1880 - 1895
John Harrison - Pawnbroker, Bolckow Street
Jacob Levy - Pawnbroker
Maurice Levi
John Hedley & Co., Linthorpe Road
Wright and Archibald - Sussex Street
Lisney and Dickson
Thomas Longstaff Hall - not sure if this was a shop or a private individual, just that she stole his boots!
An unnamed draper's shop in Newport Road.
What I really want of course is the candid shot of the shop doorway with a suspicious looking old woman lurking around the corner! But any photos or information at all would be great.
Thanks,
Jen
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Hi
Have you looked at the Francis Firth site?
http://www.francisfrith.com/search/england/cleveland/middlesbrough/middlesbrough.htm
Good luck
Jane
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Hi
Another option might be to contact the local paper as they have a good archive. Middlesbrough Evening Gazette. The Frith one is a super site Jane.
Andrea
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Thanks,
I was wondering about Francis Frith as we drove home, from Lazenby to Kendal, throught the snow on the A66 a couple of hours ago, so I must have read your minds.
What I ought to do, and maybe will if I ever have the time, is to go through my enormous pile of Evening Gazette " Remember When" magazines. I shall probably find some of what I am looking for in there.
So all I need is time. Hmmm??
Jen
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You should have had them in the car to read, my mum's family all used to live in Lazenby and Wilton, and all buried nicely in a row over at Wilton churchyard ;D ;D
Good luck with it
Jane
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My dad is there too. I was confirmed and married at Wilton, my older sister confirmed and married there, younger sister, baptised, confirmed and married there. Who were your ancestors?
Jen
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I am just about to set off up north to Kirkby Stephen and we generally go across on the A66. Good to know it is snowy!
Andrea
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I suspect the snow has all gone now. There is very liitle left in Kendal. I think there is a parallel universe in which the A66 gets blocked with snow - we drive across it regularly and on at least wo occasions recently the news has reported cars stuck, passengers stranded and the road being re-opened after snow had closed it for several hours, whereas in reality, there has been a tiny amount of snow on the verges and precious little else.
But it is very cold - bring your thermals.
Cheers,
Jen
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My Lazenby/Wilton relatives are the families of Wood, Hansom, Harrison and Seaton.
We have been playing football this morning well Ok dads v kids, not mums ;D and we have had some snow, not much but it is very cold in Redcar
Have fun
Jane
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I went to school with Harrisons and Woods in Lazenby. Don't remember any Hansoms or Seatons though.
At the risk of sounding churlish - it is always cold in Redcar! I have a dreadful memory having to play of hockey in the biting wind, in the days long before kids were allowed to wear tracksuits for outdoor activities.
Jen
( in Kendal, where it is snowing)
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Hi l know this is an old post of yours and this is a long shot that you even see this but Jane Knight nee White is my 3rd great grandmother. I am descended from her daughter Roseanna Knight who married Robert Rumins. Anyway I was wondering if you have found her birth? I know she was born in Staffordshire and her father is Joseph White but I've never found her birth record or her mothers name. TBH she hasn't made it easy for us as I'm sure she just picks a number when asked her age, it fluctuates so much. But she is definitely one of my ancestors that I am most proud of 😊😊 Thanks in advance Kaye
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Hello Kaye,
Welcome to Rootschat! Long shot … not at all, I get really excited when new family members appear, especially when there's a chance that we might be able to help each other with our research.
Jane Knight is an enigma. Yes, she seems to have no clue as to when she was born, which does make any searches difficult. But there is more to it than that. I have another contact who has done lots of research into this line and who is currently waiting for some further information to arrive which will hopefully make things a little clearer.
There is a really interesting discussion going in the Middlesbrough Family History group on Facebook - it might be worth your while joining that, if you have an account. I'm not sure if I am allowed to post this link but am sure one of the moderators will remove it if I'm getting it wrong ( sorry mods if that is the case!!) It just seems the simplest way to tell you what we know, or think we know. Jane is one of my favourite ancestors too but boy, is she a complex character!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Middlesbroughfamilyhistory/search/?query=julie%20felgate
How are you descended from Roseanna? Would you mind telling me a bit more about that line? I believe they had four children but that only two, Bessie and Robert, survived into adult life. Is that right?
Regards,
Jen
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Thanks for that Jen I have sent a request to join the Middlesbrough th page. Also I am already linked to Julie Felgate via Anxxxxy so am familiar with the confusion over Jane White/Jones/Lavender.
So now a bit of background. Roseanne Knight married Robert Rumins in 1887 and had Bessie 1888 Robert 1891 Douglas 1893 and Ann Maria 1896. Douglas and Ann both died 1915. She also had John Edward Rumins in 1901. ROBERT died in 1900. She remarried in 1904 to John Edward Mitchell and Herbert was born in 1907. Not 100% if she was pregnant when Robert died but she hadn't married Mitchell yet so baby was given her previous name. Her son Robert William is my paternal grandmother's father so he is my great grandfather. His daughter is Edith Annie Rumins who married George William Gibson and they are my grandparents. My dad can remember being sent to check on 'Granny Mitchell (Roseanna) when he was 5 years old and finding her dead!!!!
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I think Julie's latest bit of research is one of our best leads so far! I've just been in touch with her to see if the latest certificate has arrived yet but she is still waiting. Fingers crossed for something helpful!
I already have Edith's marriage to George Gibson on my tree but it's good to know a bit more on that line.
I don't suppose you have any photographs of Roseanna and Robert - or any of that line? :)
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Morning Jen. My dad has some old photos. I'll dig them out and have a look.
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Ooooh! I shall look forward to that! I have some old photographs of that side of the family but the people on them are unidentified. Yours might help to clarify who they are. :)
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Thanks for the info about the Middlesbrough page Genjen - my father's family lived in Middlesbrough and I spent many happy hours roaming the area around Sidney Street with my cousins when I was a kid. Also, very happy memories of caravan holidays in Redcar and Whitby.
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Thanks for the info about the Middlesbrough page Genjen - my father's family lived in Middlesbrough and I spent many happy hours roaming the area around Sidney Street with my cousins when I was a kid. Also, very happy memories of caravan holidays in Redcar and Whitby.
My pleasure. There are other Middlesbrough based Facebook groups which might be worth looking at. There's one specifically for the Cannon Street area, which includes Sidney Street, I think. :)