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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: wdytya on Wednesday 19 March 08 16:36 GMT (UK)
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I have come across a family tree for the Haylings family dated 1986. The earliest name on the tree is a William Haylings who married a Betty Roberts on the 12 November 1778 in Oxenhall Gloucestershire.
Later dates show the name spelt Hailing.
Anyone recognise this as their family
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came across your post quite by accident today 01/09/2008 - my 50th birthday !! Yes, this is MY family. I have researched since 1987 and found out so much info, only to find that a professional researcher had already done the research !! he had deposited it in in Cheltenham library and i was there doing research when one of the librarians overheard me say the name HAYLING and he said "dont move !!" then he came back with a copy of the family tree !! can you believe it !! mind you, the professional had missed MY line of the family off the tree completely !! i had more than he had in some areas and he had more than me in other areas, so i pieced them together and have a fuller picture. mind you im not saying its complete as there are still several lines yet to be researched, from the top of the tree downwards. my name is spelt HAILING but there have been several different spellings over the generations. I would be happy to hear what you have found. regards Marshall Hailing, Birmingham. Email address available if u wannit. please reply.
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Hi Marshall
Welcome to Rootschat!
And Happy Birthday! :D
I guess you can consider this a little present then? I hope you find more new information when comparing notes - serendipity!
Kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Hello
I had nearly forgotten I had posted this message. I found this tree when sorting out family papers. I have no idea why this tree should have any relevance to my family. I am not sure as to where I have filed this paperwork so will have to look through several boxes in the loft. Will get back to you via your e mail address if you can post it.
Regards
Jon
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Hello Jon
Marshall will have to post a couple more times on Rootschat before the PM system becomes available to him. He is welcome to post a few more times here til he qualifies though!
Hi Marshall
Just to point out that we don't post email addresses on the boards on Rootschat, so you'll need to do as advised above. This is to prevent spammers who think its funny to PM people!
Kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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thanks for your advice and guidance. appreciated.
Marshall
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Hello Marshall
At last I have found the Haylings family tree. It looks as if it was produced on the 11th October 1986 and is a printed document. I am thinking this could be the same document that was deposited in the Cheltenham Library?Are you in a position to PM me and then I can give you my e mail address. Fialing that are you on Genes Reunited?
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Thanks Jon. Paperwork received in the post yesterday and it is indeed part of my family tree. It was originally prepared by a professional genealogist for his wife, who was a HAYLING. It looks as if it is a working document as it lacks some of the detail given in the 9 years later version i found deposited in either Cheltenham or Gloucester library. You can tell it was prepared by the same person. And they both have certain family lines missing - including the line that leads to ME !! Many thanks for posting your original message and maybe one day soon you will be in the library and accidentally find MY version of the HAILING / HAYLING family tree. let's hope I get it right. Good luck with your own research. Best regards. Marshall Hailing
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hello there !! this is rather random, my grandmother was a dorothy joyce hampton born dec 25 1925 and her mother was a dorothy lilly hailing born 1902 !! from cheltenham .... would u be kind enough to help me ???? :)many thanks carmel
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Hi Carmelp
Sorry but no Dorothy on the family tree.
try contacting Marshall as he has a lot more info about the Hayling family
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many thanks for your time !!! ill try marshall .. :)
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Hi Carmelp
Welcome to RootsChat :)
You'll be able to contact Marshall by PM (Personal Message) by clicking on the green scroll thingy beneath his avatar, when you have posted three times (one more to go).
Susan :)
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found it !! thanks susan :)
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I have a Hayling(s) family tree (Genes Reunited) going back to John Haylings b1803 married Frances Haines. If of interest I can let you see the tree to see if there are any matches.
Keith Hayling.
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I don't know whether it's too late to reply to this thread. I've only joined this morning but this is my family! How great it would be to compare what I've done to something that's been done by someone else.
Is there anyone still out there?
Cheers
Joan
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Hi Joan
Yes I am still about! I am not researching the Hayling family its just that I came across their family tree in my families papers when sorting thru'. Why it was there is a mystery as I have never found a connection with my family.
I can certainly look in my papers for the tree and answer any questions you might have.
Maybe I can put you in touch with Marshall as it is his family and he will have more info than me
Regards
wdytyanoidea
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That would be really great thank you.
I did see Marshall's reply but I've no idea how to get in touch with him. I'm also in Birmingham and I'd love to see a copy of the tree you both have just to check that what I have so far is OK.
This is really exciting!!
Thanks for your help.
Joan
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Hi Joan
I have asked Marshall to post a message to you so keep a look out for it!
Regards
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got an email notification !!! :)
cant believe i havnt been on in such a long time ........
would be great to hear which line of haylings/hailing u r descended from !!
i have a fair amount of info but ive been busy reserching my fathers side of the family , much more easier !!
take care
carmel x
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Morning everyone,
Thanks very much for the replies. Doesn't it lift your spirits when you find a way though to some new info?
Does the little green icon underneath your name indicate that we can e-mail personally? I'm new and not sure without reading carefully (just being a bit lazy here, but it IS Sunday!)
Carmel, we can compare notes if you like and I'll also wait to hear from Marshall.
Thanks again, cheers,
Joan
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Joan
Yes you can send a PM(personal message) by clicking on the green icon. I think though that you have to have made 3 postings before you are allowed, so you must be there or thereabouts by now. Hope the contacts you make help to breakdown some of you brickwalls.
good luck
wdytyanoidea
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Thanks very much wdytyanoidea
Will try it later.
Joan
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Hi there, I am also looking for anyone who comes from the William Haylings = Betty Roberts 12 Nov 1778 at Oxenhall (Gloucestershire) line.
My direct line is.
William Haylings (shoemaker) ba. 31 Mar 1781 at Oxenhall
William Haylings (shoemaker) ba. 17 May 1808 at Gloucester
William Haylings (printer) ba. 29 June 1837 at Gloucester
William Roderick Haylings b. 7 July 1858 at Gloucester
married (1) Hannah Crusp Edding 25 May 1878 at Gloucester
Paul Roderick Haylings b. 2 Nov 1884 at Nottingham
married (1) Emma Eliz Oliver b. 4 July 1880
Who had 4 children. My Grandfather Reginald Ivor Martineau Haylings b.21 December 1908
Moved to New Zealand with 3rd Partner.
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Hello. That is my ancestor there and we are related.
My name is Marshall Hailing and I live in Birmingham England.
Just a quick hello for now. More later.
Marshall
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Hi Marshall
Great to see more descendants contacting you...hope your research is going well.
wdytyanoidea
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Hi Jon, as you have seen, have made some new contacts who are definately related. Great eh. Including my family line, thats 3 lines of descendants out of 6 members of the same family now in contact with each other. (did that make sense to you?). Still awaiting contact from any descendants of the other 3 members of that family. Havent heard a word from the generations above or below the one in question, though. I didn't know i had relatives in New Zealand. I remember that i did write to a Hayling chap in the Bahamas some time ago, but at the time we couldnt find a direct link. Maybe we can in the future. I fancy a visit there. lol. yes its going well, still learning more about the family.
Did u ever find out why that Hayling family tree was in your old papers?
good luck with your own research. keep in touch. Marshall Hailing
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Hi,
My name is Naomi Sands. I live in the Bahamas. My maiden name is Hayling. My Dad was Edward Hayling. He was born in Dursley, Gloucestershire on April 28th, 1939. We can trace the Hayling side back to Philip Hayling (my paternal Great Grandfather) who married Ada Florena Gwilliam. Don't know the date of their marriage but it must have been around the late 1890's. My paternal Grandfather Bert (Bertie) Hayling had 7 siblings:William, George, Louise (died when she was young), Christopher (went missing), Daisy, John and Phyllis. As far as I know they lived in the Cheltenham area. Bert (Bertie) Hayling was born on May 4th, 1911. Have you ever heard of this particular line of the Hayling family? Unfortunately, my Grandfather Bert lost track of most of his siblings over the years and I would dearly love to find some of their descendants.
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Hi Naomi, I have just sent you a msg on facebook. I believe you have a brother Bert Hayling, and that you live in the Bahamas? Last contact i had with him was over 10 years ago !!!!! We had alot of email discussion about your family tree at that time, so you may want to see him to see if he has any info you are missing. I cannot confirm any links between my family and yours, but hey, who knows. havent finished researching yet !! Say hello to Bert from me and get in touch via email (see my facebook account for the address).
regards Marshall Hailing, Birmingham, England.
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Welcome Naomi! :)
It's great that you two have found a connection. Can I ask you not to discuss living people on the boards though - to prevent identity theft (it's Rootschat policy).
Many thanks and good luck with the new avenue of research.
A ;)
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Hi Naomi and afternoon Marshall,
Nice to hear that the Hayling/s,Hailings family is spreading far and wide.
I've found Naomi's ancestor Philip, his wife and family in the 1911, I will try to attach it. (Ooops it won't let me) Not sure how I can get the info to you unless I have your e-mail address. Any ideas?
Marshall, hope all is well.
Joanie
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Joanie, Rootschat look-up boards won't allow you to post images of censuses because that would infringe copyright. For the same reason, you aren't permitted to ask for or provide details of the 1911 census, sorry.
Kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Aaawww that's a shame! Thanks for the info Arranroots....
Joanie
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Joan, i have contacted you via email regarding the family tree for Naomi. Good to know you are still around and still searching...aren't we all.
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Hi All,
Not sure if you are still using this site. I think I am also (sort of) related. My Step-grandfather is in your line as follows:-
William & Unity Hailing
William Hailing & Ann Roderick Bowden
William Haylings & Emma Elizabeth Bedford
William Roderick Haylings & Hannah Crump Goding
David Bowden Haylings (brother of Paul Roderick Haylings) & Emily Jane Morgan
Edgar Goding Haylings & Rosie Warren
And then my grandfather is the next gen down from there.
Interested to hear from anyone in the family. I have some information from this line if anyone would like it.
Thanks
Richard
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Hi Richard, yes I still receive messages from this site. You are most definitely related to my family and I would really like to see alot more details of your particular line, from yourself, your parents, your grandparents (Cedric David Richard Haylings I presume?)(but please confirm). Do you have any old photographs of any of your line? The earlier the generation the better.(going right back to the printers?) I have no details of you, your parents, only very basic info on Cedric and his sister Helen and on Edgar and Rosie. Need some from the next generation up. Basically I just cant get enough !! Ha ha. Let me know what generations you have info on and I can provide quite a bit of information for yourself if you need any yourself, please ask away and I will be only too pleased to help. You can contact me through this site or by my personal Email account or through facebook. Happy hunting. Marshall Hailing. Birmingham.
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Hi Marshall,
I've spoken to my grandad and he is going to see what photo's he has. In the meantime I have some information which I am happy to provide which might fill in some gaps.
Can you give me your email address and i'll send you what I can at the weekend?
Thanks for your reply.
Rich
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Hi again Richard. It's not allowed to put a straight Email address on these sites in case of 'robots' so the best way I can describe it to you is marshall(then a dot)hailing(at)Hotmail(then a dot)co(then a dot)uk or look me up on facebook. both my email addresses are on there.
sorry about having to write it this way, but its for the best practice to 'stop the bot'.
I'm really looking forward to hearing from you. Say hi to your family and to granddad.
Marshall.
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Hi Marshall. I emailed you some info last week. Hope you received it. Let me know if not and ill re send it.
Thanks
Richard
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Hello to anyone & everyone researching the HAILING(S)/HAYLING(S) family lines.
I have noticed that there now quite a lot of people researching this family name and drawing up the various family tree lines, but so far every one of them, including my own, has stopped at William Hailings and Betty Roberts and their marriage in 1778.
It would appear that no-one has yet managed to find their baptisms/parents/location. I confess to be frustrated at the lack of my own progress on this and have been searching other HAILING family trees for clues as to whether any one else has the information I need, but it seems not.
However, I would like to put forward a contender.....
See Gloucestershire Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (Oxenhall registers) 1538-1813
(as viewed on Ancestry.co.uk)
and you will find.....
William son of James and Elizabeth AYLINGS baptised 29 April 1758
and just a few lines below that entry you wil find.....
Betty daughter of John and Mary ROBERTS baptised 08 October 1758
That's the best fit I can find. I invite and welcome comments on these records, especially if you have any alternatives, otherwise this is the best fit for me.
Just an additional note, there are other AYLINGS in the records, maybe they are siblings?
I will attempt an attachment here. sorry, it says file too large. Email me if you want it, or you could just look it up yourself?.... hmmmm
Thanks for reading
Marshall Hailing-Birmingham
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Church of Latter Day Saints - Bosbury Parish Register in Family Search
has a marriage at Bosbury, Hereford - 23 July 1745 :
James HAYLING(S) and Susanna HUNT
and a
James HAILINGS marrying Mary MAYFIELD at Bosbury, Hereford - 2 November 1715
James HAILINGS baptism 3 May 1724 at Bosbury, Hereford - parents James & Mary
Thos. HALLINGS baptism - 9 March 1747 at Bosbury, Hereford, parents: James & Susannah (this must be the Thomas buried at Oxenhall age 7 in 1754)
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Dustydocs re: Bosbury, Herefordshire has other records e.g.
Thomas HALLINGS christened 4 March 1687/8 - parents Thomas & Ann
and a sibling for James
William HAILINGS - christened 27 November 1726 - parents James & Mary
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It would seem one branch of the HAILINGS/HALLINGS family came from Bosbury, Hereford to Oxenhall
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If you look further down this message :
James AYLING was christened at Oxenhall - 1 July 1746 - parents: James & Susannah - residence, Bosbury, Hereford
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The Forest of Dean Family History website is extremely useful especially for their Advance Search facility for births, marriage witnesses etc etc.
Witnessess are extremely useful in finding family links
www.forest-of-dean.net/
When William HAILINGS of Oxenhall married Betty ROBERTS at Oxenhall on the 12 November 1778 - the two witnesses were : John JONES and Susanna HAILINGS with the Memoranda : With consent of parents.
Using their Advance Search facility for witnesses: John JONES witnessed many marriages at Oxenhall - so was probably the Parish Clerk.
When Joshua GREEN of Pauntley - married Betty HAYLINGS at Oxenhall - 4 March 1807 - the two witness were : William HAYLINGS and Susanna SYSUM
Baptism at Oxenhall: 26 March 1804
Betty HAYLING (a Bastard) - mother Susannah
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Susanna HAYLINGS (Spinster) of Oxenhall married William SYSAM of Oxenhall at Oxenhall - 29 July 1804 - with again John JONES the witness.
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Oxenhall baptisms
1746 (1 July) James AYLINGS - parents: James & Susannah - residence: Bosbury, Heref
1750 (11 November) - John AYLINGS - parents James & Susannah **
1757 (10 March) - Richard AYLINGS - parents James & Susannah
**(Richard was buried : 5 July 1757 - parents James & Susannah
1758 (29 April) - William AYLINGS - parents James & Elizabeth
1762 (6 January) - Benjamin AYLINGS - parents James & Susannah *****
Oxenhall Burials
1749 (30 July) - Richard AYLINGS - residence: Ledbury
1754 (2 December) Thomas AYLINGS age 7
1794 (25 December) - Susanna HAYLINGS - wife of James HAYLING (Notes: Transcribed from the Register with the Bishop's Transcripts)
18 December 1810 - burial of Susanna SYSAM at Oxenhall
No burial for an Elizabeth
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Marriage at Newent - 30 December 1781
John HAYLINGS - Bachelor of Oxenhall - married Ann DEE - Widow of Newent
witnesses: Hannah BEALE and P BEALE
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Sometimes the Parish Clerk when he wrote up his notes at the end of the day - the incorrect names could be put down - i.e. Mother's name/name of child etc. This has very often come up in the Forest of Dean forum.
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On the Forest of Dean records
Marriage at Gloucester St Mary de Lobe
A Benjamin HAILINGS of Holy Trinity married Winifred BENNETT by banns - 25 June 1789
and
at Gloucester St Mary de Crypt
A Benjamin HAYLINGS plus a Charles HALE were witnesses 6 August 1797 to the marriage of Susannah NICHOLS and Joseph LANE
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A couple of years later : Benjamin and now an Elizabeth were having children christened at Saint Mary de Crypt: Benjamin, 17 March 1793, John, 8 January 1797 and William 13 April 1800
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The appears to be a connection with Susannah AYLINGS and William HAYLINGS
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? Is this the link to Oxenhall
Forest of Dean Records
Baptisms
at Bromsberrow, Glos - 9 November 1721
Susannah HUNT - parents, Benjamin and Susanna
Benjamin HUNT - 1723 - parents, Benjamin and Susanna
John HUNT - 1725 - parents, Benjamin and Susanna
Richard HUNT - 1728 - parents, Benjamin and Susanna
Elizabeth HUNT - 1731 - parents, Benjamin and Susanna
William HUNT - 1733 - parents, Benjamin and Susanna
Sarah HUNT - 1735 - parents, Benjamin and Susanna
at Oxenhall
1 November 1736 - Samuel HUNT, parents Benjamin & Susanna
27 November 1738 - Thomas HUNT, parents Benjamin & Susanna
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The Forest of Dean Family History website is extremely useful for records and has the facility to use an Advanced Search - which can be used in various ways - i.e. births and marriages witnesses etc.
www.forest-of-dean.net/