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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: NZGrant on Thursday 20 March 08 08:46 GMT (UK)
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I'm tracking down the ancestors of my wife's maternal line. David Buddo emigrated to New Zealand about 1874 and became a member of parliament. His father was Sir David Buddo, a surgeon in the Indian civil service who is credited with building Kinburn House in St Andrews in 1855 (now the St Andrews Museum). Curiously though, after his death in 1862, his estate does not include that fine looking house, amounting to just 497 pounds. In his will he states "There will not be much for him poor fellow, so let him learn something to live by . . . ". So one mystery to solve is whether he owned the house or just lived in it on his return from Bombay.
His will also refers to ". . my son David Buddo by Euphane Durward at present residing in the vollage of Drumlithie Kincardineshire as Mrs Robert Johnstone" . This suggests that either he was divorced or never married Euphane (also referred to as Euphemia Stevenson Dorward in a NZ obituary). Mystery No 2.
I've accumulated all the census and other records I can via the internet, dating from the earliest mention of a Thomas Buddo in 1590 in St Andrews through to the early 20th century. It is a small family line, living mostly in St Andrews with involvement in golf (ballmaking in 1610), as weavers in the 18th C and fishermen in the 19th C. My best guess of David senior's parents are Thomas Buddo (1755 - 1815) & Margaret Thomson. Previous generations most likely Thomas Buddo (1709-1780) & Margaret Gourlay (<1720-1800), preceded by David Buddo (1674 - )& Agnes Baxter, preceded by either Johne Buddo & Marget Carmichell or David Buddo & Jonet Johnston/Johnstoun.
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2 Davids on the 1871 census records on SP
1871 BUDDO DAVID Male 78yrs living in PERTH /PERTH
1871 BUDDO DAVID Male 48yrs living in ST ANDREWS AND ST LEONARDS /FIFE
Christening record for David also from SP
08/04/1854 BUDDO DAVID BUDDO son of DAVID BUDDO and EUPHEMIA STEVENSON DORWARD christened at St Cuthbert's EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
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Between 1800 and 1854 there are 44 christening records in Scotland for the surname Buddo (although some may be multiple records)
In the same period for Fife alone there are 31 records, again some may be multiple entries of the same birth
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David senior's death record giving mothers surname
1862 BUDDO DAVID mothers surname THOMSON Male aged 62yrs died at ST ANDREWS AND ST LEONARDS /FIFE
Christening record for David senior
02/02/1800 BUDDO DAVID son of THOMAS BUDDO and MARGARET THOMSON christened St Andrews and St Leonards /FIFE
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The will is available to view on SP at a cost of £5
Buddo David 12/08/1863 sr, surgeon, sometime in the Honorable East India Company's Service, afterwards residing at Kinburn House near St Andrews Inventory; Extract Registered Will or Settlement Cupar Sheriff Court
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Thanks sancti. That fills some gaps. I had been getting my census records from Ancestry.com and realised after looking at your information that there are others in SP. However, you need to look at both because Ancestry.com has some that SP doesn't.
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An interesting old Fife surname this one, mainly to be found in the St Andrews area as has already been said. Believed to be of local derivation, from Buddo Ness on the Fife coast, St Andrews parish.
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A little more information on mystery No 2. Euphemia Dorward shows up in the 1861 census as the wife of Robert Johnston in Drumlithie, in the Glenbervie district with two young children and David Buddo (8). They are still there in 1871 but David is no longer there at that time. David does not show up in the SP search for 1861 so was missed when the records were indexed.
I can't find any record of a marriage betwen Euphemia and David Buddo snr or between Euphemia and Robert Johnston. If she did marry twice, then there should also be a divorce from David Buddo, presumably between 1854 after David jnr was born and 1859 when her son Robert Thomson jnr was born. Are divorce records in the public domain?
Back on mystery No 1, David B snr shows up as a lodger in Edinburgh in the 1861 census, the year before he died. Again, it seems odd that he would have had the fortune needed to build Kinburn House in 1855 to be reduced in money so quickly, down to 500 pounds at the time of death.
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Quite a bit about David jnr here
http://www.dnzb.govt.nz/dnzb/default.asp?Find_Quick.asp?PersonEssay=3B56
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Yes. It is interesting how your perspective changes once you understand the background. DB had a rural childhood because he was living with his mother and stepfather who was an agricultural labourer/crofter. Therefore his upbringing was much more humble than might have been anticipated. Presumably his inheritance of 497 pounds allowed him to get his education in Perth.
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Its strange that the OPR's have 2 christening records showing for his birth. 1 without his fathers name
08/04/1854 BUDDO DAVID OR DORWARD at St Cuthbert's Blotter EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
08/04/1854 BUDDO DAVID BUDDO born to DAVID BUDDO/EUPHEMIA STEVENSON DORWARD at St Cuthbert's EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
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The records state that Sir David Buddo built the house in 1855 and it is named after a battle in the Crimean War
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I found this birth entry quite interesting
14/03/1824 DORRAT EUPHEMIA born to WILLIAM DORRAT and EUPHEMIA STEVENSON at Balmerino /FIFE
Is it possible that Euphemias surname changed after birth
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Well spotted! :) You have to be quite a detective to dig into the murky past. Euphemia Dorrat certainly looks like DB's mother. I guess Euphamia or her family may have changed their surname.
When DB jnr was born, DB snr was 54 and Euphemia 30. Quite a big age gap which, given the Euphemia is subsequently living with Robert Johnston makes me wonder about the legitimacy of DB jnr. Perhaps Euphemia was a servant at Kinburn House! The double christening record for DB jnr perhaps there was some debate over the parentage.
With regard to Kinburn House, the St Andrews Museum is now housed there. I put a query in to the museum to see if they had any information about DB snr but they have not replied. Have you got any suggestions as to who I could contact in St Andrews that might be able to check out the early ownership history of the house? There are internet references to the David Buddo and architect John Milne but not to subsequent ownership prior ot the St Andrews Town Council buying it in 1920.
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David jnr was conceived and born before the house was built.
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/features/featurefirst75.html
Does it mention in the will who inherited the house?
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In the 1881 census it is the Paterson family who are living in the house
Dwelling: Kinburn House John PATERSON Head Married 43 Male Retired Ironmaster born at St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
Dwelling: Kinburn House Jane A. PATERSON Wife Married 44 Female Retired Ironmaster Wife born in England
6 children and 3 servants included
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The preamble to the will says ". . . David Buddo Senior, Surgeon sometime in the Honorable East India Company’s Service, afterwards residing at Kinburn House near St Andrews who died at St Andrews on the twenty third day of September Eighteen hundred & Sixty Two. . .". There is no mention of the house in the inventory of personal estate and effects.
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On the 1861 Census Sir David may be living in Midlothian
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hi chatters the bivri discs shows david buddo born to david buddo and euphemia stevenson dorward on aug. 23 1853 and christ. april 8 1854 at edinburgh midlothian the disc collection is st. cuthbert. beans
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Yes beans, this lines up with other records.
Sancti, in the 1861 census, Sir David is living with his mother and stepfather (Robert Johnston) in Drumlithie, in the Glenbervie parish in Kincardinshire. David does not show up in the search as a Buddo because he is recorded as David Buddo Johnston.
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On the 1861 census on SP there is only 1 record for a 60/61 yr old David Buddo and it is in Midlothian. He doesn't appear to be in Kinburn House at the time of the census. Perhaps he had sold it and the will was slightly outdated
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Yes you are correct. I was thinking of DB jnr who was also Sir David Buddo in NZ later in life. The 61 yr old is DB snr, showing as a lodger on the census form. The reference to Kinburn house is not in the will but in the inventory, dated 12/8/1863, nearly a year after his death. I can only assume that, if he did own Kinburn House, he sold it some time prior to 1861 and the proceeds went against debts. However, I doubt if he ever owned it. I don't know what a surgeon in the East Inda Company got paid, but it is unlikely to have been enough to build such a substantial home. There would have been little or no family money either, given that he was 11th of 12 children of weaver Thomas Buddo (1755-1815) and Margaret Thomson.
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When did he actually get his knighthood? He is in the records as having the house built in 1855.
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I don't know. He is just referred to as Sir David Buddo in some of the internet descriptions of Kinburn House. Are there lists of knighthoods awarded in the UK? I guess it is likely that, if indeed he did have one, it would have been between 1840 and 1860.
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Perhaps he accrued some wealth with the East India Company
This resident of Fife seemed to do well.
It was founded in terms of a bequest by Dr Bell, who was the first to introduce the monitorial or Madras system of school management. Dr Bell, who was the son of a hairdresser in St Andrews, and was educated at the University here, became, after various vicissitudes of fortune, superintendent of a male orphan asylum at Madras under the Honourable East India Company, and there originated his monitorial system. At his death he left a very large fortune, £120,000 of which was to be spent in the erection and maintenance of schools on his favourite system,
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David Buddo snr gets more and more interesting. I had a reply from the Curator of the St Andrews Museum. She advised that David Buddo spent a short time in Cupar gaol about 1856 for shooting at and wounding a young man who had been courting one of the housemaids! Maybe that was the start of his decline in fortune.
Kinburn House was bought by John Paterson (later Provost of St Andrews) in 1872. It passed to the Town Council in 1920. The extensive garden grounds were turned over to public amenities eg tennis and a bowling green. The house itself became home to the Hay Fleming Reference Library for many years. During the Second World War it provided a telephone exchange/air raid warning system for the town. It became St Andrews Museum in 1991.
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I hope the following information is of interst to those tracking David Buddo snr.
In 1851 David Buddo senior is living at 5 Golf Place St Andrews and Euphemia Durward, house servant is also living at 5 Golf Place St Andrews. They are the only two individuals living at this address. Euphemia did not marry David Buddo senior but did have his illegitimate child, who was raised as David Buddo Johnston, but known as David Buddo in adulthood.
As to whether David Buddo senior received a knighthood there is no evidence I have seen to confirm that he did and he was never referred to as Sir in any public records.
According to the Parochial Register, George Gordon Esq. is living at Kinburn House in 1861 and in 1867 Major Boothby and family are living at Kinburn House.
In the 1861 Census Buddo snr is a lodger in Edinburgh at 2 Elm Row Edinburgh South. His occupation is listed as Surgeon (not practising).
The 1856 shooting that the curator of St Andrews Museum refers to, sounds like the one that took place in 1862. In a copy of the indictment against David Buddo snr he is described as residing at Kinburn House.
The crime attracted a lot of publicity and was written about in the Dundee, Glasgow, Edinburgh and other newspapers.
The newspapers reported that on July 29th 1862 John Cuthbert a young joiner from Crail had been sweet hearting a maid servant, and had called on her one evening when Dr Buddo came out in great fury and asked Cuthbert what he was doing there. Cuthbert answered him civilly stating that he was working on the adjoining property and had got acquainted with the servant. He at the same time gave his name and address but seeing that Buddo was still in a passion he turned to go away. Buddo then coolly raised his gun and shot the unsuspecting man in the back. Cuthbert was severely wounded and in a critical state with great loss of blood.
Buddo was arrested the next morning and conveyed to Cupar jail.
Mr Cuthbert is described as a quiet decent lad and highly respected by all who knew him.
David Buddo snr was to have been tried in the High Court Perth on September 29 1862 for the crime of discharging loaded firearms to the effusion of blood and serious injury of John Cuthbert.
David Buddo snr was not able to be called as he had died around midnight on September 22 1862. There was a lot of rumour surrounding the timing and circumstances of his death.
Before David Buddo snr died a civil case had been raised against him by Cuthbert for personal injuries and loss of time incurred.
The civil case proceeded the following year on July 20 1863.
Cuthbert v Buddo before Lord Barcaple for damages by John Cuthbert, against David Buddo of Drumlithie Kincardineshire the natural son of the late Dr Buddo (who takes his moveables under a holograph will) and William Buddo the brother of the late Dr Buddo (who takes his heritage as heir-at-law). The defenders denied liability but tendered £55 damages and expenses which was declined, then £106 which was also declined. Mr Cuthbert was awarded £153, 3s in full for damages and expenses.
I have a few other pieces of interesting information which I will post at a later date.
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Thankyou for all this. It's great to have colour in the family history! I missed David snr and Euphemia in the 1851 census because David's age is shown as 40 when he was actually 50, so I didn't look at the copy of the census paper on ScotlandsPeople. A couple of photos from the house attached, with the one of the poster taken by our son who visited St Andrews last week.
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I am descended from Thomas Buddo's daughter Christian and Robertsons following. Old Tom Morris is also a descendant. Many relatives live here in Australia. I was born close to St Andrews, Fife at Ferry-Port-on-Craig.
Duncraig VIC AUS
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That's interesting. We hadn't come across any Buddo descendents in Australia until now. Which Thomas Buddo was that?
The most likely looks to be the one born 8/5/1709 (Buntisland), died 9/6/1780, married Margaret Gourlay/Gourley June 1740 St Andrews & St Leonard, weaver, 2nd child Christian born 26/2/1744. 7th child also Thomas b 2/11/1755, d 24/4/1815?, weaver, m Margaret Thomson, no child named Christian but oldest child Thomas b 16/8/1778 m Agnes Wiseman, child Thomas b 4/2/1816, m Isabella Budell?, child Julia b ~1849.
If this line, I don't have any information on Christian other than a birth date, so anything you can contribute would be welcolme.
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It goes much earlier than that. My great9grandmother Christian Buddo married John Robertson at St Andrews in 1642. The reputedly first professional golfer Allan Robertson (1815-1859) is a great4grandson of Christian Buddo as also is his apprentice Tom Morris (1821-1908) who designed the Old Course. A brother David Robertson (1824-1864) of Allan Robertson left children in Sydney AUS. Other branches of the family migrated to Deniliquin NSW and Bendigo [Sandhust] VIC in the nineteenth century.
Duncraig
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Wow, that's really going back. I don't have much on the early Thomas Buddo other than what is in the golfing history. There was a Thomas Buddo resident in St Andrews in 1590 who is probably the same man. There were a few other Buddos around that time that I don't know the relationships:
Effam Buddo d 1599, m James Lowrie
Johnne Buddo d 1603, occupation tailor
About the time of your Christian, there a few Buddos who could have been siblings:
- Andro Buddo m Margrat Williamsone, children Christian (1641 - )
- Andro Buddo m Margret Crombie/Crummie, children Andro (1650 - ), Isobel (1653 - ), Margret (1656 - )
Note that this could be the same Andro who remarried.
- Thomas Buddo m Marget Kynninnmonth, children William (29/5/1653 - ), Andro (30/3/1656 - ), Jenat (26/10/1658 - ), Eupram (26/10/1658 - ), Jenat (4/2/1664 - )
- John Buddo m Margret Balfour 22/11/1653, children Andro (11/5/1658 - ), Elspeth (26/10/1661 - ), Robert (22/9/1664 - ).
Coincidently, my great great grandfather (John Pearson) came out from Cambridgeshire to the Bendigo diggings in 1858 and then followed the gold rush across to Lawrence, New Zealand. My great grandfather, also John Pearson was born in Eagle Hawk, Sandhurst Vic in 1862.
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Hello:
I am researching my Grandmother's side (Henderson) and have a connection to the Buddo's. William Henderson my 2nd Great grandfather married a Jean Buddo of St. Andrews in 1912. My 3rd Great Grandfather married a Isabella Buddo in St. Andrews on Sep 24 1815. Isabella is the daughter of James Buddo and Margaret Brown. According to my research they had seven children, Isabella, John, Margaret, William, Andrew, Jean and Elisabeth. Do we have a connection here by chance?
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Well, well. A sister Elizabeth of your Isabella Buddo married my first cousin six removed David Crichton at St Andrews in 1814. David's mother Margaret Woodcock was sister of my fifth great-grandmother Janet Woodcock, wife of St Andrews Town Sergeant John Robertson, himself a descendant of Christian Buddo.
Duncraig
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There will be a link to my wifes Buddo line, but back in the 17th C. where records are pretty limited.
I don't have anything on the Jean Buddo who married William Henderson so would be interested in more information. With regard to Elizabeth and Isabella, what I have is partly from Chrighton family tree records plus some verification from official records. I've got James and Margaret having 8 or 9 children with Robert probable and Thomas possible. Hopefully fills some gaps. Any errors, let me know.
1 James Buddo
Birth: c1696
Death c 1766, Dundee
Spouse: Christian (Barbara?) Baillie
Birth: 1707
Death: c 1785, Dundee
Married: 18 Feb 1725, Dundee
Children John (9/12/1725 - ) Dundee
Margt (9/7/1727 - ) Dundee
James (18/4/1731 - ) Dundee
Christian (29/3/1733 - ) Dundee
Christian (23/3/1735 - ) Dundee
Robert (5/3/1737 - ) Dundee
Margaret (1739 - )
Isobel (17/5/1741 - ) Dundee
James (1/5/1743 - ) Dundee
Janet (14/4/1745 - ) Dundee
James (23/8/1748 - ) Dundee
1.10 James Buddo
Birth: 1748
Spouse: Elisabeth Walls
Married: 22 Sep 1770, Dundee
Children: James (1771 - )
Janet (1773 - )
Elisabeth (1777 - )
Robert (1784 - )
Jean (1790 – 15 Mar 1865, Dundee)
1.10.1 James Buddo
Birth: 1771
Spouse: Margaret Brown
Married: 10 Jan 1792, Dundee
Children: Isabella (25/10/1792 - )
Elisabeth (8/12/1795 – 1861)
John (2/12/1798 - )
William (3/9/1800 - )
Margaret Morres (1/7/1804 – 26 Jan 1876, Dundee, m James Tasker)
Robert (13/7/1806 - )
Andrew (4/9/1808 - )
Jean (4/9/1808 - )
Thomas (22/7/1810 - ) maybe. Born St Andrews cf Dundee for the others and mother recorded as Margaret Brew
Interesting legal snippet: BUDDO JEAN, res North Street, St Andrews, v James Trail, Tailor, St Andrews; male, b 1 Feb 1851; 4/27; P 450 (186) [action against the father of an illegitimate child for expenses claim].
1.10.1.1 (Isa)Bell Buddo
Birth: 25/10/1792
Spouse: James Henderson
Married: 24/9/1815, St Andrew & St Leonards
Children: James Henderson (1818)
1.10.1.2 Elizabeth Buddo (Betsy)
Birth: 1795
Death: 16 Aug 1861, St Andrews
Spouse: David Chrichton
Married: 5/4/1814, St Andrews & St Leonards
Birth: 5 Aug 1791 St Andrews
Death: 12 Jan 1863, North Castle St, St Andrews
Occupation Sailor
Married: 5 Apr 1814, St Andrews
Children: Margaret (23 Mar 1817, St Andrews - )
Elizabeth (1827 - )
James (1830 - 1868)
John (11 Feb 1831 St Andrews – 31 May 1907)
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many thanks! I'll add this info into my tree and see what else I can come up with to share
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I hope the following information is of interst to those tracking David Buddo snr.
In 1851 David Buddo senior is living at 5 Golf Place St Andrews and Euphemia Durward, house servant is also living at 5 Golf Place St Andrews. They are the only two individuals living at this address. Euphemia did not marry David Buddo senior but did have his illegitimate child, who was raised as David Buddo Johnston, but known as David Buddo in adulthood.
As to whether David Buddo senior received a knighthood there is no evidence I have seen to confirm that he did and he was never referred to as Sir in any public records.
According to the Parochial Register, George Gordon Esq. is living at Kinburn House in 1861 and in 1867 Major Boothby and family are living at Kinburn House.
In the 1861 Census Buddo snr is a lodger in Edinburgh at 2 Elm Row Edinburgh South. His occupation is listed as Surgeon (not practising).
The 1856 shooting that the curator of St Andrews Museum refers to, sounds like the one that took place in 1862. In a copy of the indictment against David Buddo snr he is described as residing at Kinburn House.
The crime attracted a lot of publicity and was written about in the Dundee, Glasgow, Edinburgh and other newspapers.
The newspapers reported that on July 29th 1862 John Cuthbert a young joiner from Crail had been sweet hearting a maid servant, and had called on her one evening when Dr Buddo came out in great fury and asked Cuthbert what he was doing there. Cuthbert answered him civilly stating that he was working on the adjoining property and had got acquainted with the servant. He at the same time gave his name and address but seeing that Buddo was still in a passion he turned to go away. Buddo then coolly raised his gun and shot the unsuspecting man in the back. Cuthbert was severely wounded and in a critical state with great loss of blood.
Buddo was arrested the next morning and conveyed to Cupar jail.
Mr Cuthbert is described as a quiet decent lad and highly respected by all who knew him.
David Buddo snr was to have been tried in the High Court Perth on September 29 1862 for the crime of discharging loaded firearms to the effusion of blood and serious injury of John Cuthbert.
David Buddo snr was not able to be called as he had died around midnight on September 22 1862. There was a lot of rumour surrounding the timing and circumstances of his death.
Before David Buddo snr died a civil case had been raised against him by Cuthbert for personal injuries and loss of time incurred.
The civil case proceeded the following year on July 20 1863.
Cuthbert v Buddo before Lord Barcaple for damages by John Cuthbert, against David Buddo of Drumlithie Kincardineshire the natural son of the late Dr Buddo (who takes his moveables under a holograph will) and William Buddo the brother of the late Dr Buddo (who takes his heritage as heir-at-law). The defenders denied liability but tendered £55 damages and expenses which was declined, then £106 which was also declined. Mr Cuthbert was awarded £153, 3s in full for damages and expenses.
I have a few other pieces of interesting information which I will post at a later date.[/color]
My Great great grandfather was John Cuthbert a joiner from Crail. Would have been 25 at the time of the incident. Do you have any further information on this
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My Great great grandfather was John Cuthbert, a joiner from Crail. He would have been 25 at the time of the incident. Do you have any further information or can you advise me of any sources for the story. Also ....what was the maid servants name??
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Hi all
For what it's worth, I've attached a photograph of BUDDO ROCK situated at Buddo Ness on the Fife Coastal Path between St Andrews and Kingsbarns.
It's a rather impressive chunk of sandstone well whittled by the winds. Viewed from certain angles I sometimes think that the left hand side (as you view the image) looks a bit like Peter Ustinov!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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My Great great grandfather was John Cuthbert, a joiner from Crail. He would have been 25 at the time of the incident. Do you have any further information or can you advise me of any sources for the story. Also ....what was the maid servants name??
I wondered how John Cuthebert had fared after the shooting. I will be able to give you a bit more information soon - when I can find some time to go through my files :) !!
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John Cuthbert ( joiner Crail) was the only John Cuthbert in Fife of "sweethearting" age in 1861 census (single) . The other was a 17 yr old Blacksmith from Kingsbarns.
I look forward to hearing more.
Thanks
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Here is a bit more information for Buddo descendants in New Zealand.
David Buddo arrived in New Zealand in 1876 on the ship 'City of Dunedin' which sailed from Glasgow 25th March 1876 arriving in Lyttelton on 1st July 1876.
He was an assisted immigrant under the government 'Vogel' immigration scheme that targeted agricultural labourers and domestic servants. He stated his age as 23, his occupation as ‘forrester’ and his place of residence as Perth.
Buddo’s fare was £16 which he had to pay back to the government in instalments.
David Buddo Johnston’s mother Euphemia Dorward and stepfather Robert Johnston and their children are buried in the Kirkyard of Glenbervie:
Stone: 225
William Johnston 5 Sep 1869
Robert Johnston 20 Mar 1900
Robert Johnston 14 Sep 1906
Euphemia Dorward 16 Dec 1906
Betsy Hamilton Johnston 19 Oct 1942
Euphemia Catherine Johnston 21 Oct 1945
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I will hopefully be able to locate more information on John Cuthbert shortly :)
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I have a lot of info. on CUTHBERT/CULBERT in the East Neuk of Fife, but I had nothing on John the would-be Romeo who got himself shot, so I donned my trusty deerstalker, and with magnifying-glass in hand set off in hot pursuit, anticipating a two-pipe problem. Some of you who have posted here may know all or most of the following already.
In the 1861 census John Cuthbert, 24, wright, unmarried, b. Crail, was lodging in the Douglas Inn at the sign of the Red Lion in Strathmiglo. Five years later in 1866 this John Cuthbert married Elizabeth Motion at Newington in Edinburgh. John was the son of David Cuthbert, slater, and Elizabeth Brown, in Crail.
John Cuthbert died in 1908, aged 72, in the Cottage Hospital, St. Andrews. His usual place of residence was Strathkinness.
Re Buddo, earlier today I was chasing up a family called Cargill in St. Andrews and came across Buddo by mistake, or rather, by chance.
In 1915 Frederick Welch Cargill married Janet Wilson Dalrymple in St. Andrews. She was from Grassmiston farm, Crail, and her parents were Thomas Dalrymple, mason, and Janet BUDDO. Thomas and Janet were married in 1869 in St. Andrews. So there's another Buddo for anyone who collects them.
There are still people in the East Neuk called Budd, and I suspect that's a shortened form of Buddo.
I almost forgot - the Janet Buddo who married Thomas Dalrymple in 1869 was the daughter of William Buddo, surfaceman, and Janet Wilson, in St. Andrews.
Harry
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Below are census records for 1871. As you will see, Euphemia uses Robert's surname but there is no record of a marriage that I can find. Her name is Dorward when she is buried, so it looks as though she didn't care about not being married.
Household JOHNSTON, Robert 1825 46 M Glenbervie Kincardineshire VIEW -->
Household JOHNSTON, Robert 1859 12 M Glenbervie Kincardineshire VIEW -->
Household JOHNSTON, Euphemia 1825 46 F Glenbervie Kincardineshire VIEW -->
Household JOHNSTON, Euphemia Cathrine 1861 10 F Glenbervie Kincardineshire
Household JOHNSTON, Betsy Hamilton 1870 1 F Glenbervie Kincardineshire
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Thanks harry :D I wonder if Elizabeth Motion was the poor girl who witnessed the shooting! and BluePict it is interesting to see David Buddo Johnston's mother Euphemia is listed as Johnston on the census but when she is buried at Glenbervie she is Euphemia Dorward.
I wonder if the New Zealand Buddo-Johnston descendants kept in touch with the Johnstons of Glenbervie. Who knows David may have sent photographs or visited his family when he took his bride Janet Rollo on a honeymoon tour in 1887 that included England and Scotland.
Will be back with more information soon. I must organise my archives! ;)
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In the 1871 Census David Buddo jnr is a lodger at 3 Flesh Vennel Middle Church Perth, Perthshire. Aged 18, his occupation is engine cleaner at the Caledonian Railway Sheds.
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So he wasn't David Buddo Johnston in 1871...I wonder when he became a 'forrestor'
Here is a bit more about the shooting, which also throws a bit of light on Kinburn House as well.
In the Dunfermline Press 6 Aug 1862 it was reported that Dr Buddo was liberated on bail, and returned to his own house on Saturday afternoon. The Doctor is a single gentleman of very retired and somewhat eccentric habits, [who] …devotes much of his time to magnetic studies.
In the Fife Herald 14 Aug - DR BUDDO'S LIBERATION ON BAIL
TO THE EDITOR OF THE FIFE HERALD. St Andrews, 12th August, 1862.
Sir, In an article in your paper of Thursday last, relative to the liberation of Dr Buddo, St Andrews, you state that Messrs Black & Morrison [arranged bail],..."It was I who applied for and obtained bail for my brother"
This was written by David Buddo snrs elder brother John Buddo.
The Editor says in reply......"instead of complaining of our slight references to this affair, our correspondent ought to have admired our kindly abstinence from remark upon other awkward features of the case, to which we trust we will not .. have occasion to refer”
John Buddo’s occupation was ‘writer’ which was the 19th century term for a solicitor. When John Buddo died in 1871 Kinburn House was part of his estate. It appeared to have been leased to different families and operated as a boarding house. John Buddo also owned a few houses in Golf Place in which rooms were rented out to lodgers.
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In the 1871 Census David Buddo jnr is a lodger at 3 Flesh Vennel Middle Church Perth, Perthshire. Aged 18, his occupation is engine cleaner at the Caledonian Railway Sheds.
Do you know where John Cuthbert was in 1871? Would be interesting :)
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That is interesting information Fife. To answer your question re. John Cuthbert: He was in St Andrews at Shorebridge. He was still married to Betsy (Elisabeth) (nee Motion) and they had two children: Alexander aged 3 and Margaret aged 1. His occupation is joiner. So he must have recovered enough from the serious injuries inflicted by the coward David Buddo who shot him in the back when he turned to leave.
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In 1871 John Cuthbert, aged 34, joiner, born Crail, is living in St. Andrews with his wife Betsy (Motion) and son Alexander, 3. They're at a place called Woodburn, but alongside John's name is Gibson's Saw Mill, heavily scored out with a thick black line.
I have a small connection with Kinburn House, the scene of the dastardly shooting. Before it opened as a museum in 1991(?) I was asked, as a supposed expert on Older Scots, to write and record a little conversation between two merchants in medieval times on a St. Andrews street, which visitors to the museum could listen to on tape. I was invited to the opening ceremony and met a teacher from my old school in Anstruther whom I hadn't seen for about 17 years.
I've just posted this, and BluePict posted at the same time so I'm modifying my post. I didn't check the next page of the census, and obviously John and Betsy had 2 children, not just 1. The names Shorebridge and Woodburn both appear on the census page, and I'm not sure just where they are.
Harry
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Well spotted Harry, great to have an historian on the spot.
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Great information Harry and BluePict. It will give Forbest something to work with re his great great grandfather John Cuthbert.
John Cuthbert would have taken a while to recover. I imagine it would be diffcult to take up his joinery trade for a while due to muscle damage etc. After the shooting, he was not able to be moved to the care of his relatives in Crail until mid September 1862 (Dunfermline Press).
It seems that there is more to the story - re David Buddo seniors previous conduct- as the editor of the Fife Herald indicated.
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It's great the way an inquiry starts to take on a life of its own. Nothing like a good mystery to get others interested.
If the NZ David Buddo did explain his background to Janet Rollo on their honeymoon, I suspect it may have ended there. With his rise to fortune and a cabinet minister position in the NZ government, it is likely he did not stress his illegitimacy. The current generation have certainly made no mention of it. That said, in his obituary, it did imply that Euphemia was not David Buddo snr's wife:
David Buddo was born on 23 August 1853 in Edinburgh, Scotland, the son of Euphemia Stevenson Dorward and David Buddo, a surgeon in the Indian civil service. A rural childhood gave him a lifelong love of farming and country life. He was educated in Kincardineshire, and at a private grammar school in Perth, Scotland. He also served in the Kincardineshire Volunteers.
FIFE, you mention John Buddo's will. I'd be interested in getting hold of a copy as it might give a few leads about the others in David Buddo snr's family. Are you able to assist?
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Hi NZGrant - No I don't think I do have a copy of John Buddo's will but I will check. He was about 82 when he died. I don't think he had any children, although he had two unmarried nieces living with him, Margaret (b 1836) and Caroline (b 1840).
When his estate was disposed of in 1871 it mentioned 'heirs'.
John Buddo had rented Kinburn House to Major Boothby for several years.
John Paterson was the purchaser. Kinburn House was originally a double bay villa and Paterson renovated it. John Buddo's residence at Golf Place didn't sell immediately.
The other property owned by John Buddo was at Pilmour Place. David Buddo snr had lived at Pilmour Place in the mid 1850s . It was around this time that all David Buddo snrs belongings including clocks, bookshelves, tables, paintings, barometer, sofa, chairs, linen, curtains, beds, mattresses, bolsters, pillows, dressers, carpets, kitchen utensils, - everything - was sold by auction in the 1857. Something must have happened in 1856-1857, I will see if I can find out what it was.
Good to see that David Buddo jnr did well in New Zealand. Would be nice to think his mother was very proud and that they stayed in touch.
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Thanks FIFE. Any help would be appreciated. It is a puzzle that David Buddo snr was credited with building Kinburn House but John Buddo owned it at a later date. I wonder if John Buddo financed the house and David was just given the task of organising its construction. I guess the title to the house might answer that question. Are land/building titles in the public domain in Scotland?
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Hi all
As a 'local', I thought I'd chip in with my tuppenceworth ;)
NLS (the National Library of Scotland) has town plans available to view and take screen prints from but there's Copyright permissions to be overcome before posting images here - Screen prints may be made of these maps for non-commercial educational and private purposes. Written permission must be obtained in advance to reproduce any digital material from the Library's collections, whether in hard copy or electronic forms. There a lots of old maps available to view, but here is the link to a Town Plan for St Andrews from 1854 - http://maps.nls.uk/townplans/st-andrews_1.html. The map is in four sheets and if you click on the bottom right corner and enlarge it, you will see "Shore Bridge" and a "Timber Yard" (possibly "Gibson's Saw Mill" that Harry referred to in his post) on the road that leads along to the harbour.
Abbey cottage is still there to this day at what is the southern end of Abbey Walk. If my recollection is still good, I believe it was once the Gas Works manager's house. Just out of picture (unfortunately) is Woodburn. It is a street, on the south side of the Kinness Burn that leads towards the beach (East Sands), the old lifeboat house (now the St Andrews Sailing Club) and the University Estates Department Office and Workshop (formerly the Woodburn Laundry).
There was a lad in my class at school called George Buddo, who was living in Colchester, Essex in 1998, and I believe an elderly relation of his still lives in the first house on the right at the east end of Lamond Drive.
Hope this helps
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Thomas Buddo is my wife's 10th Gt Grandfather - I can't get any descendants though other than through the Robertson line, and wondered if anyone here might guide me to other Buddo descendants? My wife is from the Innes family from the NE of Scotland, with her link into this connection via marriage between John Innes and Elspet Thompson. Any info much appreciated.
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Hello My name is Dr. Ian Traill
I am a descendant of BUDDO JEAN, res North Street, St Andrews, and James Trail,
I would like to make contact regarding any information, photo, etc.
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Hello My name is Dr. Ian Traill
I am a descendant of BUDDO JEAN, res North Street, St Andrews, and James Trail,
I would like to make contact regarding any information, photo, etc.
Jane Buddo was born on the 11th July 1821, and her Christening was on the 28th November 1822 in Dundee but she lived most of her life in Saint Andrews where she died at the age of 90 in 1912.
JAMES TRAIL and JANE BUDDO gave birth to their only child a son who they named JAMES TRAIL, on the 1st of February 1851, in St Andrews.
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Hello
My great grandmother was Jane Buddo b.11th July 1821 d. 04th March 1912, who married William Henderson Sen. MARRIAGE: 15 Oct 1855 in St Andrews, Fife. They had a son William HENDERSON Jr b. 1859.
Prior to this Jane Buddo had a child to James Trail Sen who was also named James Traill Jr b. 1851.
James Jr and William Jr
I would like to hear about the descendants of William Jr Henderson
I have some photos of Jane Buddo but would like to see other for verification.