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Title: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: cheshiremog on Monday 31 March 08 02:14 BST (UK)
Can anyone please help me find Vincent Battlemuch ? Bottlemutch ? and his wife Christina who perhaps moved to the Nottingham area from 1891 onwards. He appears on the 1901 in Nottingham with three children Philiamena b. Nottm aged 9 Dorothy 4 and Louis 1 both born Nottm. Vincent & Christina listed as born Italy - foreigner.  Am trying to find the real origin of the surname - do not believe it is Bottlemuch ! Also trying to find when they arrived in England if possible.
All help very appreciated.

Mog
Title: Re: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: jorose on Monday 31 March 08 09:41 BST (UK)
I believe you'll find them on freebmd (along with some other possible relatives) as Bartolomucci.  Including the marriage of Vincenzo Bartolomucci   and Cristina Mattiucci in 1892.
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: cheshiremog on Monday 31 March 08 19:55 BST (UK)
Thanks Jorose
You are a star!
I will check this out further
Thanks
mog
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: Dango on Monday 03 November 08 22:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Cheshiremog,

I have lots of facts about the Bartolomucci family from Italy who moved to Nottingham after 1881.
As yet I do not know what area of Italy they were from.

Are you on GenesReunited?

Dango
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: cheshiremog on Monday 03 November 08 23:13 GMT (UK)
Dear Dango
Thank you for the reply - I will send you a Private message
I have recently made contact with the Battlemuch family

By the way - welcome to rootschat - it is a marvellous site
Very friendly and helpful

mog
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: Dango on Monday 03 November 08 23:46 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Who are you in contact with as there is les than a handful?

I await to hear from you

Dango
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: cheshiremog on Tuesday 04 November 08 00:24 GMT (UK)
Since sending a PM to Dango it seems that we are in fact already in touch.

Dango is a descendant of the Battlemuch Bartolomucci family and would be very interested to hear from anyone who has any information concerning them.
So please post away.

Rootschat is an amazing site and I have made many wonderful connections here with my own tree and received a great deal of help over the years.

mog
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: kpw123 on Tuesday 21 June 11 08:55 BST (UK)
Hi there, I've been searching for my family history and I know that my grandmother, Nancy lilian Bartolomucci was born in 1908 and her father was Vicent or Vincenzo who was born in 1863 and died in 1935, I think he was married to a Cristina too. They had 4 children, nancy Lilian, Albert, Dorothy and Phylis, probably made into English sounding names.
Would love to find out if there's a connection here.
Cheers
Kev
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: Dango on Tuesday 21 June 11 10:16 BST (UK)
Hi,  I knew your grandma and the other brothers and sisters, Auntie Lily was my Grandad's sister. Do the family still live in Mottingham?  I have lots of infomation on the family, do you have an email address?
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: Dango on Tuesday 21 June 11 11:32 BST (UK)
Hi Kev,

Vincenzo and Christina had 12 children, Nancy Lillian was the 4th youngest, she married James Wright and had a son called Alan, are you Alan's son?

I look forward to hearing from you, add if this fits your history we are cousins!

Anne
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: Dango on Tuesday 21 June 11 11:47 BST (UK)
Kev,     should have read   "Nottingham"  "and if"  could do with using spell check!!!
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: cheshiremog on Tuesday 21 June 11 18:39 BST (UK)
Hi Anne & Kev

Great to see that you have made contact!
After you have made 5 posts each you can use the PM personal message system to send personal emails
rather than on the open forum.
Happy chatting!

best wishes
Carol
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: kpw123 on Tuesday 21 June 11 20:24 BST (UK)
Hi Anne, can't believe this, I hope my information was correct. (*) is my email address, please get in touch so we can investigate a little more.
Kind regards
Kevin

(*) Moderator Comment: e-mail removed in accordance with RootsChat policy,
to avoid spamming and other abuses.
Please use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data.
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: Dango on Tuesday 21 June 11 21:21 BST (UK)
Hi Carol,

I thought I should tell you that Pete died last year.  He was diagnosed with cancer after a routine operation and was dead within 7 weeks :(, he suffered so much and it was all such a shock!!  I miss him so much and he was far too you to die!

We had not long returned from Italy researching the Bartolomucci family, we found where they were from and have traced them back to the 1600's, we had planned to return to continue the research.

Take care
Anne :(
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: kpw123 on Tuesday 21 June 11 21:38 BST (UK)
Dear Anne, I am so sorry for your loss, my dad, Alan (lilians son) has just passed too, on the 5th of this month so I can understand what you are going through.
God bless
Regards
Kev
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: Dango on Tuesday 21 June 11 22:34 BST (UK)
Hi Kev,

I am sorry to hear about your Dad, I can remember him from my childhood.  He was my Dad's cousin and was six years younger than him.  I am sure he lived at home with Auntie Lily when I was a child, he would have been in his late teens I think.  What year were you born and do you have any siblings?  Do you know anything about the Bartolomucci family?  Do you have any family photos, it would be good to see some of your Grandma?  Her and her sister Phylis were always together, Auntie Phylis came to our wedding but I am not sure why and Lily did not, do you know when she died? Where do you live now, there is so much info to share?

Wow what a lot of questions I have asked and that is just the begining!!!

I hope to hear from you soon
Take care Anne
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: cheshiremog on Tuesday 21 June 11 23:40 BST (UK)
Hi Both

Anne, I am devastated to hear your news about Pete. I have told Martyn and we just can't believe it. To lose a partner is so terrible, you lose someone you love dearly and your best friend, companion and daily way of life. Stay strong and remember he would only want you to be happy. So glad you and Kev have made contact and I know how few there are of you. What an amazing site this is.

love Carol
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: Dango on Tuesday 21 June 11 23:59 BST (UK)
Thank you Carol,

Doing this without being able to share it with Pete is hard as it was something we always did together and so enjoyed.

I have also found the grandson of another one of my Grandad's sisters, we went to visit him in Garstang just a few days before Pete had is operation!!!  I have not told them of Pete's death and I am sure they will be wondering what has happened to us!

Regards to Martyn

Anne
Title: Re: ITALY: Battlemuch Bottlemutch Italian Immigrants
Post by: badowell on Thursday 31 January 19 13:40 GMT (UK)
Hi.
I am a descendant of Christina Mattiucci's sister Elizabeth. I have lots of information on the Mattiucci's ( or Matthew's ) also I have info on the Bartolomucci's in Italy.
Kind regards.