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Title: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 01 April 08 20:01 BST (UK)
MI for Cupar Parish Church in 2 parts, this is an old cemetery
and the MIs are from 1800s,and list the 2 maim names
in the MI
Part 1
19   Rev. Laurence   Adamson   died 1795   
179   George   Aitken         Janet   Ponton
180   Robert   Aitken         Jane   Robinson
190   James   Anderson      Elizabeth Spens
62   Thomas Anderson      Ann   Smith
101   Robert   Arnott         Jean   Moncrief
127   David   Balfour      Helen   Lawson
53   Thomas Bilton         died 5.10.1841
55   Thomas Birrell      Heloner Adam
216   Robert   Blair         Susan   McFarlane
208   Alexander Blyth      Margaret Shepherd
29   David   Boswell      Anne   Govan
150   David   Boswell      Elizabeth Smith
5   Captain Briggs      Mary   Swan
148   Robert   Brunton      Ann   Dall
31   Robert   Buik         Jean   Dick
203   William Burns         Margaret Taylor
224   Rev. George Campbell   died 1824 age 77   
225   Sir George Campbell      died 1892 age 67   
58   John   Carie         Janet   Philp
182   James   Carstairs      Margaret Burn
162   William Carswell      Cecilia   Dewar
24   Andrew Christie      died 1827 age 66   
184   Andrew Christie      Margaret Dempster
77   Thomas Clark         Jean   Keith
222   George   Cleland      died 1851 age 38   
34   William Cockburn      Euphemia Hunter
44   Allen   Comb         Agnes   Brown
67   George   Constable      Margaret Gentle
66   John   Constable      died 1808 age 78   
37   John   Coutts         Agnes   Fraser
189   David   Cuthbert      died 1857 age 74   
1   David   Dalrymple      Violet   Robertson
183   Alexander Deas      Catherine Low
32   David   Dickson      Anne   Bonnar
85      died  1890      Elizabeth Robertson
86      died  1894      Janet   Robertson
54      died 1827      Mary   Bruce
88      died 1836      Elizabeth Russell
106      died 1844      Isabel   Welsh
15      died 1882      Dame Elizabeth Montgomery
70      died 1883 age 42   Mary    Ross
130      died 1886 age 20   Mary   Walker
195      died 1895       Christina Birrell
172      died 1900 age 82   Agnes   Coutts
26      died 1903      Anna   Moncrief
28      died 1908      Mary Charlotte Govan
193   Walter   Dingwall      Isabella Smith
175   Patrick   Don         Catherine Millie
198   James   Dott         died 6.9.1894   
115   Matthew Dott         Mary   Wilson
197   Thomas Dott         died 12.3.1777    
116   William Dott      
96   Andrew Douglas      Janet Gibson
46   William Drummond      Catherine Bell
128   Henry Jack Duncan   Katherine Lees
142   Nathanal  Duncan   Euphemia Mic
36   Thomas Edgar      Agnes   Henderson
169   George   Edmeston   Mary   Walker
149   James   Fairfull      Ann   Inglis
151   George   Fernie      Jean   Boswell
146   John   Fernie      Elizabeth Westwood
147   John   Fernie      Margaret Duncan
206   Peter   Frazer      Mary   Patridge
92   John   Gardiner   Anne   Keith
157   Charles Geddes   Margaret   Brown
25   Douglas Moncrief   Govan   Helen   Burnett
30   John   Govan      died 1861   
27   John George Govan   died 1853   
159   John   Granger   Helen   Wallace
205   David   Greig      Jean   Innes
160   George   Grieve      Catherine Cunningham
161   Alexander Haxton   Mary   Miller
171   Donald   Hay      Ellen J   Little
9   John   Hedderwick   died  1819   
218   John   Hodge      died 1830 age 63   
109   David   Howie      Janet   Brown
210   Henry   Hutchison   Helen   Goodfellow
57   James   Hutchison   Elizabeth   Carie
119   George Smith Hutton   Anne   Millar
105   James   Inglis      died 1852 age 94   
173   James   Inglis      died 1878 age 74   
131   Andrew Innes      Margaret   Duncan
126   David   Innes      May   Morton
204   George   Innes      Margaret Rodger
124   Thomas Innes      Marion   Lawrie
47   Thomas Ireland   Agnes   Smith
177   Andrew Jamesion   Euphemia Chalmers
68   Robert   Johnstone   Susan   Scott
143   John   Kennedy   Jane Munro
56   Michael Kilgour   died 1819 age 19   
97   Rev  Thomas King   died 1841   
61   James   Laing      Catherine Anderson
98   Charles Lees      Jean   Young
100   Charles Lees      Catherine Torbayne
11   James   Loney      Catherine More
145   James   Lonie      Jane Stewart
140   John   Lorimer   died 1862 age 82   
112   John   Lunsden   Ameilia Neish   Patrick

Norrie G
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 01 April 08 20:02 BST (UK)
Part 2

95   John Stevenson Mackie  Grace Cumming
110   James   Manton   Jean   White
163   William Martin   Margaret Carswell
71   James   Mathison   Georgina Webester
35   Alexander McNab   Marjory Wiseman
3   Robert   Melville   Helen   Mitchell
176   John   Miline      died   1844 age 88   
23   Captain James   Mitchell  died 1837   
2   James   Mitchell   Violet   Walker
202   James   Mitchell   died 1810 age 43   
181   Rev. John Mitchell   Mary   Carstairs
219   George   More      Chr.   Aitken
12   Duncan Munro   died 1857 age 74   
152   Capt George Murray   died 1882 Shanghai   
123   George   Ness      Jane   Bell
187   Andrew Nicol      Isabella Arnot
38   Robert   Nicol      Amelia   Taylor
156   David   Niven      Emilia   Carstairs
118   Joseph   Parker      Christina Bell
7   William Paston   Elizabeth Arnot
212   Robert   Paterson   died 1825 age 88   
120   George Ann Paton   Agnes    Hoyes
45   William Patrick   Helen Baird Smart
209   Robert   Philp      Elizabeth Trail
99   Robert   Pittendrich   Catherine Gay
108   Andrew Pitulloch   died Edinburgh 1680   
164   Robert   Pride      Margaret Johnstone
93   William Ramsay   Mary   Smith
94   William Ramsay   Margaret Milne
220   David   Rattray      Jean   Collier
194   William Rattray   Isabella Lowden
221   Robert   Reekie      Mary   Hain
8   Thomas Reeve      Helen   Campbell
73   Alexander Reid   Leonora Reid
74   Alexander Reid   died 1811 age 38   
191   David   Reid      died 1848 age 63   
135   James   Robertson   died 1795 age 24   
87   John   Robertson   died 1886   
141   John   Robertson   Janet   Smith
84   William Robertson   died 1888   
165   William Robertson   Margaret Rodger
217   William Robertson   Agnes   Duncan
102   James   Robie      Christian White
48   Rev. John Robson   died 1828   
42   William Roy      Catherine Bell
215   George   Russell      died 1852 age 93   
137   James   Russell      Barbara Scott
6   John   Russell      Helen   MacLaren
134   John   Russell      Sarah Ann F   Scott
207   John   Russell      Agges   Lambie
89   Robert   Russell      Margaret Coutts
90   Robert   Russell      died 1877   
214   Thomas Russell   Isabella Yule
201   William Russell   Margaret Gibson
192   Peter   Scott      Isabella   Robertson
17   John   Shith      Elizabeth   Rymer
178   Capt William Siborne   Helen   Aitken
65   David   Smith      Elizabeth Thomson
174   Michael Smith      Helen   Thomson
16   Thomas Smith      died 1905   
114   William Speed      Elizabeth Speed
76   John   Spinks      Jannette Reid
186   Henry Jack Stark   Margaret Horsburgh
185   James   Stark      Barbara Horsburgh
60   John   Stark      Margaret Jamieson
33   John   Stone      died 1878   
213   James   Swan      Jean   McRitchie
213   James   Swan      Elizabeth Edmonstone
4   Robert   Swan      died 1848 age 72   
52   Andrew Taylor   Jessie Forbes   Hogg
51   Robert   Taylor      Margaret Henderson
166   Thomas Taylor   died 1822   
144   David   Terris      died 1865   
196   William Thomson   Mary Ann   Bayne
103   David   Thomson    Ann   Spens
133   Alexander Tullis   died 1836 age 72   
50   George Smith Tullis   Jane M   Brair
14   James   Tullis      Betsy   Davidson
49   Robert   Tullis      Agnes   Smith
10   James   Turner      died 1813   
113   John   Turpie      Jean   Berwick
21   George Aitken   Walker   Agnes   Malcolm
41   John   Walker      Margaret Gibb
22   Peter   Walker      died 1861   
129   William Walker   Helen   Taylor
153   David   Wann      Elizabeth   
72   Jonathon Watson      
121   Robert   Watson   Ann Watson
199   Thomas Watson   Betty   Dykes
223   Rev. James Wedderburn   died 1687 age 52   
80   Andrew Welsh   Katherine   Anderson
78   Charles Welsh      died 1866?   
79   Charles Welsh      Margaret Ritchie
81   Henry Jack Welsh   died 1899 age 35   
200   James   Welsh      Isabel   Murdoch
188   Henry Jack West   Catherine Bayne
91   David   Williamson   Isabel   Anderson
18   James   Wilson      Jane   Scott
18   Thomas Wilson   Mary Ann Robertson
20   Rev. James Wordie   died 1862 age 82   
104   William Young   died 1816 age 55   

Norrie G
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: llrieks on Wednesday 15 December 10 21:32 GMT (UK)
What does MI Mean?

68   Robert   Johnstone   Susan   Scott
143   John   Kennedy       Jane Munro   --------Does this mean Jane Munro is wife's name       
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 15 December 10 23:20 GMT (UK)
Hi llrieks    MI stands for Monumental Inscriptions
In Cupar Old Cemetery

the Husbands name & his wives name  eg an inscription

143   1862 Erected by Jane MUNRO
   her husband John KENNEDY late Sergeant 79th    
   and 13 years governor at Cupar Jail died 14.8.1848
   wife Jane MUNRO died 12.12.1866
   mother Henrietta MUNRO died 12.1.1835
   sister Sussannah MUNRO died at Sea3.9.1854
   Elizabeth MUNRO died Edinburgh 18.1.1880
   Nephew John Kennedy BRUCE died 17.10.1865 age 5
NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: llrieks on Thursday 16 December 10 04:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your reply.  Not the John I was looking for but appreciate your thoroughness, which helps me disprove him. 
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: kdarby on Monday 10 January 11 15:11 GMT (UK)
Is it possible to get more detail on

179   George   Aitken         Janet   Ponton
180   Robert   Aitken         Jane   Robinson
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Monday 10 January 11 20:09 GMT (UK)
Is it possible to get more detail on

179   George   Aitken         Janet   Ponton
180   Robert   Aitken         Jane   Robinson  

Hi  kdarby   these are the 2 inscriptions you asked for
My problem is that I can’t find the photographs
So if these are your ancestors let me know and
 I will go to Cupar And retake them for you.


179   Col. George AITKEN of Thornton & Todhall
died 17.9.1831 age 70
   his wife Janet PONTON died 21.1.1839 age 72
   son Capt. George AITKEN HM. 13th light infantry
    died Culcutta 1831 age 36
son Capt. Robert AITKEN 6th Bengal Cavalry
died on the way home from India 1838 age 34
son John writer Cupar died 21.12.1852 age 59
daughter Ann Jane AITKEN died Edinburgh 28.3.1880 age 82


180   Robert AITKEN died 14.11.1851 age 66
   wife Jane ROBINSON died 3.1.1854 age 66

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Maxrodger on Saturday 15 January 11 14:08 GMT (UK)
Hi NorrieG

Could you please give me details of No 80 & 81

Andrew WELSH & Katherine ANDERSON

Henry WELSH

thanks max
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Sunday 16 January 11 19:43 GMT (UK)
Hi NorrieG

Could you please give me details of No 80 & 81
Andrew WELSH & Katherine ANDERSON
Henry WELSH

Hi Max these are your inscriptions in Cupar Church Cemetery
have also included 78 & 79 as they all the one family

78   Erected by Charles WELSH in memory of his father
   Charles WELSH  born 1.6.1803 died 9.5.1866

79   Erected  by James WELSH Auctioneer Cupar
   in memory of his Grandfather Charles WELSH
   Baker & Brewer Cupar died 29.8.1853 age 80
   His grandmother Margaret RITCHIE died 28.8.1829 age 59

80   Father Andrew WELSH Auctioneer Cupar died 7.12.1860 age 62
Mother Katherine ANDERSON died 5.3.1871 age 79
Son Andrew died 5.5.1867 age 7
Daughter Rebeca  Playfair WELSH died 23.5.1867 age 9

81 Another side Son Henry Jack WELSH died 29.4.1899 age 35

82 Another side James Anderson WELSH solicitor Cupar
Father James Anderson WELSH auctioneer  died 29.4.1904
Mother Rebacca Plairfair JACK died 22.1.---- age 79

Max I also research Welsh but mine are from the Wemyss area

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: JDB307 on Monday 17 January 11 18:40 GMT (UK)
Hello Norrie,

Can I get a look at '208 Alexander Blyth and Margaret Shepherd', please?

Regards, Jack
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Monday 17 January 11 19:31 GMT (UK)
Can I get a look at '208 Alexander Blyth and Margaret Shepherd', please?
Hi Jack your inscription

208   Alexander BLYTH died July 1851
   wife Margaret SHEPHERD died Aug 1852 age 77

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: JDB307 on Monday 17 January 11 19:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks Norrie, helpful as ever.  Your efforts are much appreciated.

Regards, Jack
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 18 January 11 19:33 GMT (UK)
Hi NorrieG  thanks for the Welsh inscriptions from
Old Cupar Church Cemetery.

Will check them out

Thanks Max
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: magliano on Saturday 22 January 11 18:29 GMT (UK)
Hi

Would it be possible to see the details of

44   Allen   Comb         Agnes   Brown

157   Charles Geddes   Margaret   Brown

109   David   Howie      Janet   Brown

Thanks,

John
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Sunday 23 January 11 14:21 GMT (UK)

Hi John here aer the inscriptions you asked for Cupar Church
If you would photographs let me know.

44   Allen   Comb         Agnes   Brown

Agnes BROWN wife of  Allen COMB died 28.5.1820 age 27       Daughter Mary died in Infancy

157   Charles Geddes   Margaret   Brown

 stone in 3 parts Charles GEDDES died 19.10.1878 age 76
   wife Margaret BROWN died 1897 age 81


109   David   Howie      Janet   Brown

   David HOWIE Pressman in Cupar
   died 18.5.1876 age 69
   wife Janet BROWN died 6.8.1895 age 88
   son David died 1.8.1839 age 4
   daughter Margaret died 19.8.1839 age 2
   daughter Maggie Welsh21.1.1850 age 4
   son Peter died 23.1.1850 age 22m
   son John died 25.1.1850 age 7

NorrieG


Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: magliano on Sunday 23 January 11 15:28 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Norrie. One of them may fit.

John
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Rah1980 on Monday 24 January 11 00:51 GMT (UK)
Hiya

Very good of you to supply details, I am interested in a few unfortunately  ::) but there is no rush. No's 144, 146, 147, 151 and 218. Sorry to be a pain.

Many thanks  ;D

Sarah
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Monday 24 January 11 11:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah  no pain if i did'nt whant people to ask I would
not post.

Your inscriptions from Cupar Churchyard Cemetery
If you wish Photographs let me know.

144
   Erected by the Cupar Free Church Sabbath school teachers
   In memory of David TERRIS their devoted superintendent
   For 9 years died 11.8.1865


146
              1860 Erected by John FERNIE & Elizabeth WESTWOOD
in memory of son John  died May 1859


147
              John FERNIE  Blacksmith died 16.5.1848 age 62
   daughter Isabella FERNIE died 14.12.1823 age 2
   wife Margaret DUNCAN died 30.7.1869 age 81

151
   Erected by Jean BOSWELL in memory of her husband
   George FERNIE  skinner died 2.3.1858 age 41
   Wife Jean BOSWELL died 15.11.1880 age 73
   Son George died 20.5.1870 age 23
   Son David died 13.3.1872 age 20


218
              John HODGE shoemaker Cupar died 28.2.1830 age 63
   erected by brother David HODGE wright Glasgow

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Rah1980 on Monday 24 January 11 17:24 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for the look up, I'm sure they fit into my tree somewhere but not as yet unfortunately!

Thanks again

Sarah  ;D

P.s. don't suppose you have Dunfermline, Beath or Kelty do you?
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Monday 24 January 11 19:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah    Yes I have DOUGLAS BANK CEMETERY DUNFERMLINE
some quite old 2000 headstones

need both parents name.

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Rah1980 on Monday 24 January 11 21:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks NorrieG

I dont know the best way to do this really, not sure when people were not buried there anymore so will skip my grandads generation and start with his mother and her siblings.

Elizabeth McIver Duff 1889 - 1969
Bessie Duff abt 1890
George Duff abt 1892
Nellie Duff abt 1894 - 1979
Maggie Duff abt 1896
Katie Duff abt 1898 - 1954
Michael Duff abt 1886
Donald Duff abt 1885
John Duff abt 1883

These were all children of Margaret McIver/McIvor and John Duff. John Duff lived 1857 - 1941 and died in Dunfermline and was the son of John Duff and Elizabeth 'Betsy' Hodge.

I have a William Hodge 1803 - 1856 s/o Robertson Galloway and William Hodge.

I have a Margaret McIvor/McIver (married name Aitken) 1821 - 1898 d/o Donald McIvor & Margaret Philip.

I have a Catherine Barrie (married surname Finlayson) 1800 - 1880 who I believe was d/o Jean Bryson and James Barrie.

I'll leave at that for now!

Thanks, it is much appreciated  ;D

Sarah
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: decota on Friday 28 January 11 06:06 GMT (UK)
Hello from New Zealand
this is my first message on rootschat.

I would appreciate if you have any information about the Wilson's below all from Cupar.

I see two of them on your MI list of old Cemetery Cupar.

18.    James Wilson       Jane Scott
18     Thomas Wilson    Mary Anne  Robertson.


James Wilson birth about 1720 Cupar   married    Mrs James Wilson,  7 children as follows:

Katherine Wilson  birth  1746    married   Robert Pratt          1777
James Wilson       birth  1747                                                                                                                                                          William Wilson      birth  1749   married    Euphemia Law      1809,                                                                                                    Mary Wilson         birth  1754                                                                                                                               Thomas Wilson    birth   1756   married    Campbell Watson  1783 ,                                                                                  Archibald Wilson  birth   1757                                                                                                                              John Wilson         birth   1759           all this family born in Cupar.

Perhaps their are no cemeteries  now for the 1700's  ?

Thomas Wilson 5th child of above married Campbell Watson 1783,   14 children as follows:
All born in Cupar.

James Wilson the eldest                     married Jane Scott,   ...............................  is on your MI list of Cupar
Margaret Wilson christening  1786     married Thomas Sheppard  1808  Cupar
William Wilson          '           1787     married  Euphhemia Law    1809  Cupar
   
Thomas Wilson         "          1788     married Mary Anne Robertson Cupar..........  is on your MI list of Cupar

Agnes Wilson                       1789             
John Wilson                         1791     married  Margaret Anderson   1796  Cupar
Anne Wilson                        1791         "         William Bryson        1814   Cupar
Robert Wilson                      1793         "         Elizabeth Mackie      1829   Cupar
Isabel Wilson                       1795         "         Peter Edie                1821  Cupar
Catherine Wilson                 1796         "         Thomas Syme          1823  Cupar
Jane or Janet or Jean Wilson 1798        "         David Farmer           1829  Cupar
David Wilson                        1800                   perhaps went to Canada
Archibald Wilson                   1804                   perhaps went to Canada
George Wilson                      1805        "         Euphemia Duncan   1840 Cupar
(George Wilson married Euphemia Duncan and they came to live in New Zealand.)

Perhaps some of the Monumental inscriptions will help to go back further in time or perhaps there are
some relatives of these people still living in Cupar.

Looking forward to your reply
and a big thank you

Decota





 




     
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 29 January 11 19:40 GMT (UK)
Hello from New Zealand
this is my first message on rootschat.

I would appreciate if you have any information about the Wilson's below all from Cupar.

Hi Decota Welcolme to Rootsweb

I see two of them on your MI list of old Cemetery Cupar.

18.    James Wilson       Jane Scott
18     Thomas Wilson    Mary Anne  Robertson.
Inscription from above

   Erected by Thomas WILSON in
                memory of his father
   James WILSON Merchant who died 30.7.1851
   His mother Jane SCOTT died 9.3.1856
   Children Isabella died 27.3.1859
   Frederick died 16.9.1860
   James Scott died 22.6.1869
   Mary Ann ROBERTSON wife of Thomas WILSON
                died 15.2.1871
   son Thomas WILSON died  13.5.1879

  There is also this Inscription in Cupar  the mention  of a   
  daughter Jane Scott
   Is this any use to you?

16   Thomas SMITH Manufacturer died 12.3.1905
   wife Margaret WILSON died 14.10.1861 age 41
   daughter Jane Scott died 25.11.1846 age 4
   only son William died 1.12.1851 age 10m

James Wilson birth about 1720 Cupar   married    Mrs James Wilson,  7 children as follows:

Katherine Wilson  birth  1746    married   Robert Pratt          1777
James Wilson       birth  1747                                                                                                                                                          William Wilson      birth  1749   married    Euphemia Law      1809,                                                                                                    Mary Wilson         birth  1754                                                        Thomas Wilson    birth   1756   married    Campbell Watson  1783 ,   Archibald Wilson  birth   1757                                                         John Wilson         birth   1759         
 all this family born in Cupar.

Nothing On Index, Cupar Church would be where they would have been buried but no stones
I see that the above are submitted entries on the IGI
And you should always be careful in using them.

Thomas Wilson 5th child of above married Campbell Watson 1783,   14 children as follows:
All born in Cupar.

James Wilson the eldest                     married Jane Scott,   ...............................  is on your MI list of Cupar
Margaret Wilson christening  1786     married Thomas Sheppard  1808  Cupar #
William Wilson          '           1787     married  Euphhemia Law    1809  Cupar#
   
Thomas Wilson         "          1788     married Mary Anne Robertson Cupar..........  is on your MI list of Cupar #

Agnes Wilson                       1789             
John Wilson                         1791     married  Margaret Anderson   1796  Cupar#
Children Margaret Wilson 3.7.1804
Mary Wilson 2.4.1807
Anne Wilson                        1791         "         William Bryson        1814   Cupar#
Robert Wilson                      1793         "         Elizabeth Mackie      1829   Cupar #
Janet Wilson 18.5.1834
Margaret Wilson 16.2.1831
Barbara Wilson 23.10.1829
John Wilson 17.5.1836
Isabel Wilson                       1795         "         Peter Edie  #              1821  Cupar #
Not on IGI
Catherine Wilson                 1796         "         Thomas Syme  #        1823  Cupar
Not on IGI
Jane or Janet or Jean Wilson 1798        "         David Farmer   #        1829  Cupar #
Not On IGI
David Wilson                        1800                   perhaps went to Canada
Archibald Wilson                   1804                   perhaps went to Canada
George Wilson                      1805        "         Euphemia Duncan   1840 Cupar
(George Wilson married Euphemia Duncan and they came to live in New Zealand.) Children on IGI

Catherine   Wilson 3.9.1844
John Wilson 12.2.1853
Thomas Wilson 7.2.1841
George Wilson 10.5.1849
Euphenia Wilson 29.10.1842
David Wilson 2.11.1846

Perhaps some of the Monumental inscriptions will help to go back further in time or perhaps there are
some relatives of these people still living in Cupar.
There is no 1841 Census for Cupar but you could
check the later censuses and see if you find them
let me know if you require further lookups.
Have attached Photograph
Norrie

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: decota on Monday 31 January 11 06:53 GMT (UK)

A big thank for the information and especially the photo of the tombstone.

Decota
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Thursday 03 February 11 20:13 GMT (UK)
Hi  Sarah you said
dont know the best way to do this really, not sure when people were not buried there anymore so will skip my grandads generation and start with his mother and her siblings.

are these any of yours

Elizabeth McIver Duff 1889 – 1969
Dun1499
   Elizabeth DUFF born 1.9.1873 died 22.3.1914
   Robert CHRISTIE died at Inchyra Perthshire   
                12.9.1900 age 57
   And Jane CREWAR  his wife died 1.6.1929 age 80
   Son David died 23.9.1939 age 57

Bessie Duff abt 1890
Nothing

George Duff abt 1892
nothing

Nellie Duff abt 1894 – 1979
Nothing

Maggie Duff abt 1896
Dun1769
   Alexander PENMAN died 14.9.1933 age 70
   daughter Babrara died 15.1.1914 age 13
   Janet McLEAN widow of James Walls PAGE
   Died 30.5.1934 age 37
   Margaret DUFF wife of James Gordon MURRAY
   Died 25.12.1935 age 33
   His wife Margaret DUFF died 1.9.1955 age 80?

Katie Duff abt 1898 - 1954
Nothing

Michael Duff abt 1886
Nothing

Donald Duff abt 1885
Nothing

John Duff abt 1883
Dys 434
        John DUFF husband of Susan CAMERON
         Died 3.4.1950 age 52
        Above Susan CAMERON died 27.1.1980? age 86?



These were all children of Margaret McIver/McIvor and John Duff. John Duff lived 1857 - 1941 and died in Dunfermline and was the son of John Duff and Elizabeth 'Betsy' Hodge.

I have a William Hodge 1803 - 1856 s/o Robertson Galloway and William Hodge.
Dun.1758
I have a Margaret McIvor/McIver (married name Aitken) 1821 – 1898
Dumfermline 462 John Aitken & Margaret McIver

 d/o Donald McIvor & Margaret Philip.
Nothing
Is this one of yours
Dun.   2360   Gilbert McIver     Jessie   Dewar

I have a Catherine Barrie (married surname Finlayson) 1800 - 1880 who I believe
 was d/o Jean Bryson and James Barrie.
Nothing

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Rah1980 on Friday 04 February 11 14:30 GMT (UK)
Hiya Norrie,

Thanks for the look up, I think a couple could be mine but I am sure these are


I have a William Hodge 1803 - 1856 s/o Robertson Galloway and William Hodge.
Dun.1758
I have a Margaret McIvor/McIver (married name Aitken) 1821 – 1898
Dumfermline 462 John Aitken & Margaret McIver


Also I wondered if you had my great grandparents who were John Clark (s/o William and Georgina Cruikshanks) born abt 1883 & Elizabeth McIver Duff (d/o John Duff & Margaret Mciver) born abt 1889 and died in 1969. And if any of their children are there:-

Elizabeth Clark
Kate Clark
William Clark
Georgina Clark born 1914
Eileen Elizabeth Clark born 1921
Susan McIver Clark born 1926

Thanks again

Sarah
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Tartantony on Friday 04 February 11 22:26 GMT (UK)
Dear NorrieG,
Could you provide the MI details for,

104   William Young   died 1816 age 55   
please?

I believe William Young had a grandson Robert Young b1811 who went to Australia and died in OZ in 1870.

I am hoping he is the William married to Janet Young (maiden name I believe) although you never know! Thanks Tony
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Friday 04 February 11 23:36 GMT (UK)
Could you provide the MI details for,
104   William Young   died 1816 age 55   
please?
I believe William Young had a grandson Robert Young b1811 who went to Australia and died in OZ in 1870.
I am hoping he is the William married to Janet Young (maiden name I believe) although you never know!  

Hi Tony sorry  looks like this is not the one your after
104          William YOUNG Burgess & Guild brother of Cupar
                died 17.9.1861 age 55
   Elizabeth NIVEN died 29.4.1946 age 84
   Georgina NIVEN died 19.2.1948 age 84

Who did your William marry ?

NorrieG



Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Friday 04 February 11 23:52 GMT (UK)
I have a William Hodge 1803 - 1856 s/o Robertson Galloway and William Hodge.
Dun.1758
I have a Margaret McIvor/McIver (married name Aitken) 1821 – 1898
Dumfermline 462 John Aitken & Margaret McIver

Hi Sarah inscriptions of the above
Dun.1758
   In memory of my husband William HODGE
   died 7.9.1914
   also John HODGE son of above died 9.9.1927
   also Lillas D RICHARDSON wife of above died
                19.6.1936? age 72
   

I have a Margaret McIvor/McIver (married name Aitken) 1821 – 1898

Dumfermline 462
               John Aitken & Margaret McIver

   Erected by the Eldest Son & Daughter in memory of
                their Mother Margaret McIVER AITKEN
                Died 25.2.1898 age 78
                Also their father John AITKEN died 17.12.1899 age 85
If you wish photos let me know

Also I wondered if you had my great grandparents who were John Clark (s/o William and Georgina Cruikshanks) born abt 1883 & Elizabeth McIver Duff (d/o John Duff & Margaret Mciver) born abt 1889 and died in 1969.
Nothing on these people
 and I need who their children married

Elizabeth Clark
Kate Clark
William Clark
Georgina Clark born 1914
Eileen Elizabeth Clark born 1921
Susan McIver Clark born 1926

Norrie


Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Tartantony on Saturday 05 February 11 00:02 GMT (UK)
Hi NorrieG,
I only have hand scribbled notes passed down to me from a distant aged relative who thinks she has a photographic memory. Unfortunately nothing seems to be what it should be to date.
I quote now;
Robert Young born 1811 Scotland died in 1870 in Sydney, Australia
Robert's father Charles and Inn keeper in Fife, married a Penelope Pousty middle of 1798. I now have a Penelope Pousty born 23/6/1779. Charles is supposed to be born in 1775 father William Young and Janet Young in Cupar. That is all I know. I am about to add this to my post as an update.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Rah1980 on Saturday 05 February 11 01:32 GMT (UK)
Hi NorrieG,

Thanks for the additional info on the graves,and thanks for your kind offer of a picture, but if it is a bother don't worry about it, you have already done so much  ;D

I Will send a pm with the married names of the children I was after incase anybody is still alive.

Thanks again

Sarah  :)
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Thursday 17 February 11 19:58 GMT (UK)
Hi again Norrie
could I please have the the inscription for
David Dalrymple & Violet Robertson

Thanks Max
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Thursday 17 February 11 20:19 GMT (UK)
could I please have the the inscription for
David Dalrymple & Violet Robertson

Hi Max your inscription

Violet M ROBERTSON died Elie 11.2.1869 age 32
 wife of David DALRYMPLE who died Largo 10.7.1900 age 40

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Maxrodger on Saturday 05 March 11 23:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie could you please check to see if you have anything
on Violet Robertson parents , I think
they are Andrew Robertsson & Margaret Turpie

Thanks for the lookup
Max
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 08 March 11 20:32 GMT (UK)
could you please check to see if you have anything
on Violet Robertson parents , I think
they are Andrew Robertsson & Margaret Turpie

Hi Max sorry nothing on the index for Andrew Robertson
& Margaret Turpie
I do have this one

Old C   113 John   Turpie   Jean Berwick
by any chance are these Margarets Parents

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Jokdy on Wednesday 16 March 11 22:06 GMT (UK)
cancel that request  ::)
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: danishdots on Monday 28 March 11 20:59 BST (UK)
Fascinated to read all the info on Cupar!

Wonder could you please give me some info on

135   James   Robertson   died 1795 age 24   
87   John   Robertson   died 1886   
141   John   Robertson   Janet   Smith
84   William Robertson   died 1888   
165   William Robertson   Margaret Rodger
217   William Robertson   Agnes   Duncan


Many thanks,

 :)Danishdots
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 29 March 11 23:00 BST (UK)
Hi Danishdots your Cupar inscriptions

Wonder could you please give me some info on
135   James   Robertson   died 1795 age 24
         1834 erected by David ROBERTSON
         his father James ROBERTSON weaver Cupar
          died 19.1.1795 age 24 ?could be 74
 
 
 
141   John   Robertson   Janet   Smith
          John ROBERTSON died 29.12.1892
          wife Janet SMITH died 12.2.1917
daughter Isabella ROBERTSON died 15.11.1966 age 83

84   William Robertson   died 1888
87   John   Robertson   died 1886

84   William ROBERTSON late Bank Manager Ballarat Australia
   died 25.4.1888
   son John C ROBERTSON  Medical Student died 29.8.1897

85   Elizabeth ROBERTSON sister of  William ROBERTSON
   died 11.3.1890

87   William ROBERTSON  died 3.7.1837
   wife Rachel ANDERSON died 20.11.1847
   daughter Isabella died in infancy
   son Thomas ROBERTSON wine merchant died 12.5.1854
   daughter Rachel Low died 10.6.1868
   son James died London 3.7.1872

 
165   William Robertson   Margaret Rodger

1849 William ROBERTSON mason died 30.9.1845 age 60
   2 children died in infancy
   daughter Ann died 19.5.1859
   wife Margaret RODGER died 3.11.1868 age 75
   Grandchildren Mary Ann & William BOYLE
   George ROBERTSON mason died 15.2.1890 age 71
   His wife Jane ROSS died 25.1.1881 age 53

217   William Robertson   Agnes   Duncan
   Erected by William ROBERTSON smith in Cupar
   wife Agnes DUNCAN died 1.1.1797 age 32
   children William & Andrew
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Deb D on Tuesday 29 March 11 23:37 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie, hope you're keeping well,

Any chance some of "our" mob might be there - Kinnears, Bairds, Beveridges, Mitchells, Morgans, Hendersons?  Many of yours are the same as mine, as you know :)

Would love to see any pics you might have of our shared rellies.  You have my email addy  :)

Cheers
Deb
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 30 March 11 16:17 BST (UK)
Any chance some of these  might be there - Kinnears, Bairds, Beveridges, Mitchells, Morgans, Hendersons?

Hi Deb   look at Page 1 of Cupar Parish Church MIs and you will
see the full list, I'm not aware of any of mine being there

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: danishdots on Wednesday 30 March 11 19:28 BST (UK)
Dear Norrie,

Thank you so much for all the info that you have sent  :D- now to try and look and see if I can link them tro the Robertsons on my tree. :-\  I will get back to you when I've sorted it all out. 

Againa, thank you for being so helpful,

Danishdots
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: bgeddes49 on Wednesday 30 March 11 19:31 BST (UK)

Hi John here aer the inscriptions you asked for Cupar Church
If you would photographs let me know.

44   Allen   Comb         Agnes   Brown

Agnes BROWN wife of  Allen COMB died 28.5.1820 age 27       Daughter Mary died in Infancy

157   Charles Geddes   Margaret   Brown

 stone in 3 parts Charles GEDDES died 19.10.1878 age 76
   wife Margaret BROWN died 1897 age 81


109   David   Howie      Janet   Brown

   David HOWIE Pressman in Cupar
   died 18.5.1876 age 69
   wife Janet BROWN died 6.8.1895 age 88
   son David died 1.8.1839 age 4
   daughter Margaret died 19.8.1839 age 2
   daughter Maggie Welsh21.1.1850 age 4
   son Peter died 23.1.1850 age 22m
   son John died 25.1.1850 age 7

NorrieG



Hello, I am trying to discover the parents of Alexander Geddes born 1834 in Scotland and died 1896 in Philadelphia.  He was married to Sarah ?? and had a son Charles A. who was my Dad's grandfather. I believe that Alexander's Dad may have been named Charles since he named his son Charles A.  I have found a Charles Geddes married to Margaret Brown from Fife Scotland and that they had a son named Alexander.  Can anyone provide me more info on Charles and Margaret's children?  The Alexander Geddes in my family line that moved to Philadelphia was a plumber by trade. Any info on Charles A. and Margaret Brown is appreciated so that I may link them to my heritage.



Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 30 March 11 23:14 BST (UK)
Hello, I am trying to discover the parents of Alexander Geddes born 1834 in Scotland and died 1896 in Philadelphia.  He was married to Sarah ?? and had a son Charles A. who was my Dad's grandfather. I believe that Alexander's Dad may have been named Charles since he named his son Charles A.  I have found a Charles Geddes married to Margaret Brown from Fife Scotland and that they had a son named Alexander.   
Hi these are the Children of Charles Geddes &  Margaret Brown  on the IGI

Father: Charles Geddes, Mother: Margaret Brown
 
    7. ANDREW GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 28 AUG 1834 Christening: 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
 
 2. JOHN GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 28 AUG 1834 Christening: 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
 
  5. CHARLES GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 AUG 1836 Christening: 28 AUG 1836 Cupar
 
 9. MARGARET GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 10 OCT 1838 Cupar, Fife, Scotland
 
 1. JANE GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 20 FEB 1844 Cupar, Fife, Scotland

I can find nothing on an Alexander born to this couple 1834
in Fife how did you find the Birth.

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Deb D on Thursday 31 March 11 00:14 BST (UK)
Thanks, Norrie - must have missed that page first time around ... either that, or Alzheimers is setting in!   ::)
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: bgeddes49 on Thursday 31 March 11 00:39 BST (UK)
Hello, I am trying to discover the parents of Alexander Geddes born 1834 in Scotland and died 1896 in Philadelphia.  He was married to Sarah ?? and had a son Charles A. who was my Dad's grandfather. I believe that Alexander's Dad may have been named Charles since he named his son Charles A.  I have found a Charles Geddes married to Margaret Brown from Fife Scotland and that they had a son named Alexander.   
Hi these are the Children of Charles Geddes &  Margaret Brown  on the IGI

Father: Charles Geddes, Mother: Margaret Brown
 
    7. ANDREW GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 28 AUG 1834 Christening: 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
 
 2. JOHN GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 28 AUG 1834 Christening: 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
 
  5. CHARLES GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 AUG 1836 Christening: 28 AUG 1836 Cupar
 
 9. MARGARET GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 10 OCT 1838 Cupar, Fife, Scotland
 
 1. JANE GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 20 FEB 1844 Cupar, Fife, Scotland

I can find nothing on an Alexander born to this couple 1834
in Fife how did you find the Birth.

Norrie
Hello, I am trying to discover the parents of Alexander Geddes born 1834 in Scotland and died 1896 in Philadelphia. He was married to Sarah ?? and had a son Charles A. who was my Dad's grandfather. I believe that Alexander's Dad may have been named Charles since he named his son Charles A. I have found a Charles Geddes married to Margaret Brown from Fife Scotland and that they had a son named Alexander.  
Hi these are the Children of Charles Geddes & Margaret Brown on the IGI

Father: Charles Geddes, Mother: Margaret Brown
 
 7. ANDREW GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 28 AUG 1834 Christening: 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
 
 2. JOHN GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 28 AUG 1834 Christening: 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
 
 5. CHARLES GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 AUG 1836 Christening: 28 AUG 1836 Cupar
 
 9. MARGARET GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 10 OCT 1838 Cupar, Fife, Scotland
 
 1. JANE GEDDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 20 FEB 1844 Cupar, Fife, Scotland

I can find nothing on an Alexander born to this couple 1834
in Fife how did you find the Birth.

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: bgeddes49 on Thursday 31 March 11 00:51 BST (UK)
Thank you for your reply.

I researched this information on familysearch.org and there was a listing for Scotland Births & Baptisms between 1564-1950 on Alexander Geddes born on 28 August 1834 and christened on 21 September 1984 at Cupar, Fife, Scotland with fathers name Charles Geddes and mothers name Margaret Brown. Indexing Project (batch) number C11420-7, System Origin Scotland-VR, Source Film Number 1040101, Reference Number 2:15C12GV

Does the birth date of 28 August 1834 and christening date of 21 September 1984 come up on any other listing? 

Thank you,
Bernadette
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: a1emslie on Thursday 14 April 11 20:35 BST (UK)
Hi NorrieG,
Thanks so much for all your hard work.I'm sure that it is a big help to a lot of us.
I wonder if I could ask you for further information on 24 and 184, the Christie family?
Many thanks,
Annabel.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: a1emslie on Thursday 14 April 11 21:00 BST (UK)
Could I also ask you whereabouts in Cupar this church is?
Thank you!
Annabel.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Friday 15 April 11 19:58 BST (UK)
 wonder if I could ask you for further information on 24 and 184, the Christie family?

Hi Annabel. this is the inscriptions, photo of 24 available

24   Andrew CHRISTIE Esq.  Many years Banker here
                died 5.5.1831 age 66
   son Cathcart died 11.7.1832 age 35
   Wife Margaret DEMPSTER died 5.8.1842 age 73
   Son Captian Andrew CHRISTIE of the Bengal Army
   Died India 26.11.1821 age 33
   Charles DEMPSTER of St Andrews, widow Jane DEMPSTER
                died 12.1.1830 age 92


184   Andrew CHRISTIE & Margaret DEMPSTER Children
   Alexander born 26.3.1790 died in Infancy
   John & Cathcart twins born 26.6.1791 died in infancy
   Henry born 25.7.1792 died in infancy
   Agnes died 18.4.1818 age 12
   George late banker Cupar died 29.7.1848 age 38
   John officer 3 Bengal Light Cavalry & Major General
   Indian Army CB & for some years Hon. ADC to the
   Queen in succession raised 8&9 regs. of Bengal Cavalry
   Known as Christie’s horse died San Remo Italy 7.5.1869 age 64
   Charles Lt.Col. 7th Bengal Native infantry for11 years
                paymaster Mutta division  died Edinburgh 10.3.1870 age 81
                Jane died 18.1.1874 age 79
                Margaret died 7.2.1874 age 72
                Robert died 12.9.1880 age 69
                Mary died 17.5.1882 age 84
                Melville died 6.12.1882 age 87
                Alexander died 13.3.1885 age 81

This map site shows the position of the Church in the town

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=337320&y=714340&z=106

NorrieG

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: a1emslie on Friday 15 April 11 21:12 BST (UK)
NorrieG, this is wonderful as Andrew and Margaret are my husband's ggggrparents.
I hope to be up from sussex soon, but if not can I PM you for a photo?
I really am very grateful, and for the map details which are so helpful.
A big thank you!
Annabel.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Maxrodger on Thursday 23 June 11 21:04 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie could I please have the inscription for

No  51 Robert Taylor & Margaret Henderson

Thanks Max
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: weemanswife on Friday 24 June 11 17:49 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie,

Could I please have the inscription for No162 William Carswell who died 1882 and his wife Cecilia Dewar who died 1895.

 Thank you  -   Weemanswife
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Friday 24 June 11 23:02 BST (UK)

Could I please have the inscription for No162 William Carswell who died 1882 and his wife Cecilia Dewar who died 1895.

Hi    Weemanswife this is your inscription, photograph available if required


162    1851 Erected by William CARSWELL & Cecilia DEWAR
   son George died 22.5.1850 age 4
   daughter Mary CARSWELL 28.6.1851 – 7.71851
   William CARSWELL died21.5.1882 age 64
   Wife Cecilia DEWAR died 8.2.1895 age 76

Norrie G
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: weemanswife on Saturday 25 June 11 12:45 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie,

Would love a photo of the grave of Wm Carswell & Cecillia Dewar.

Thanking you. 
Weemanswife
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 06 July 11 20:21 BST (UK)
could I please have the inscription for No  51
Robert Taylor & Margaret Henderson
Hi Max your inscription

51   Robert TAYLOR Writer in Cupar died 1.5.1845 age 54
   wife Margaret HENDERSON died 4.2.1864 age 78
   son David died 20.1.1827
   son George died 16.2.1833 age 13
   son Robert died 21.12.1834 age 6
   daughter Helen died 1.7.1843 age 31

Norrie


Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 06 July 11 20:28 BST (UK)
Would love a photo of the grave of Wm Carswell & Cecillia Dewar.
Hi  Weemanswife
have attached photograph William Carswell & Cecillia Dewar

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 10 August 11 22:59 BST (UK)
Hi Max what is your intrest in
Robert Taylor & Margaret Henderson

I have TAYLOR ancestors in my tree, mostly in Central Fife

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Marmyall on Saturday 27 August 11 10:49 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie,
I'm looking for death records for the following and wondered if you could help:

William Jordan born about 1882 - son of Wm & Isabelle Jordan
Robert Jordan born about 1888 - son of Wm & Isabelle
James Jordan born about 1893 - son of Wm & Isabelle

Other names I'm interested in:
Thomas Dall married Margaret Ramsay - date of death unknown.
Charles Watson & Jane Law - date of death unknown

Any information on Jordan & Dall family from Cupar area would be appreciated.

Regards
Marion
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 27 August 11 23:10 BST (UK)
William Jordan born about 1882 - son of Wm & Isabelle Jordan
Robert Jordan born about 1888 - son of Wm & Isabelle
James Jordan born about 1893 - son of Wm & Isabelle

Nothing in index on JORDAN but remember that my index is for Cupar parish church, there is the extension and I have photographed of the new Cupar
cemetery, will check later.

Other names I'm interested in:
Thomas Dall married Margaret Ramsay - date of death unknown.
nothing on the above but see they had a number of children born 1830s
and some on 1881 census, do you know who the children married?

Charles Watson & Jane Law - date of death unknown

Nothing on above do you know who children married?

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Marmyall on Sunday 28 August 11 07:16 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie,
Thanks for your reply, I'll check my records for more information
Marion
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 10 September 11 22:43 BST (UK)
Hi all   off  to get away from Fife for a touch of the sun

will be back  26 September 2011 so just keep posting your

Enquires and I will answer them when I get back, thinking

of you all ( Good food wine & sun )

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Marmyall on Thursday 29 September 11 16:40 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie

I have the following names in my research but not sure which cemetery they would be in, going on other information I have it may be Cupar

Thomas Dall & Margaret Ramsay
Charles Watson & Jane (Jean) Law
Thomas Jordan & Margaret Craley (Craillie) I have her death as 1888 so assume he will be around that time but unable to match a record to him.
John Jordan & Martha (no surname) both born late 1700's early 1800's in Ireland but died in Fife. Any information on Jordan or Dall family would be appreciated.
Thanks
Marion
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Thursday 29 September 11 20:42 BST (UK)
Hi Marion

Thomas Dall & Margaret Ramsay
nothing in index but I see they had quite a few
children 1825 to 1840 do you know who they married
Charles Watson & Jane (Jean) Law
Nothing who did their daughter Jane marry
Thomas Jordan & Margaret Craley (Craillie) I have her death as 1888 so assume he will be around that time but unable to match a record to him.
Nothing in index
John Jordan & Martha (no surname) both born late 1700's early 1800's in Ireland but died in Fife.
Nothing on index
Any information on Jordan or Dall family would be appreciated.
only 3 Jordans in index
Patrick   McHale   Bridget   Jordan
George   McKay   Mary   Jordan
Ord. Seaman A E    Jordan    died 1916 H.M.S. " Crescent
I have about 40 headstones with Dall but only 1 in Cupar
Robert Brunton   Ann Dall

Norrie



Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Marmyall on Saturday 01 October 11 17:04 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie

thanks for looking anyway, I'm drawing blanks on some of these names also.

Marion
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: kevalina on Thursday 06 October 11 14:20 BST (UK)
I'd be really grateful if you could tell me what the entry for Alexander Haxton and Mary Miller says (No.161)
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Thursday 06 October 11 15:07 BST (UK)
entry for Alexander Haxton and Mary Miller says (No.161)  
Hi kevalina  this is the inscription from the headstone in the
Old Parish Church in Cupar, photograph is available.

1840 Erected by John HAXTON baker
         his father Alexander HAXTON died 10.3.1835 age 77
         his mother Mary MILLAR died 30.10.1809 age 50
         son John died in infancy

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: kevalina on Thursday 06 October 11 15:13 BST (UK)
Thanks alot Norrie that's helped fill in a few gaps,

Kevalina
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: duffsusan on Saturday 08 October 11 03:42 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie

I saw on reply#24 of this thread you refer to Elizabeth Duff, Robert Christie and Jane Crewar (I always believed this was Grewar with a G). Is it possible to get more information on these 3 people.

Thanks so much!
Susan Duff Timinski
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Marmyall on Saturday 08 October 11 10:55 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie, Re: Thomas Dall & Margaret Ramsay

The information I have on their family is
Henry born 1 May 1825, Cupar
James born 1 April 1827, Cupar
Janet born 22 Feb 1829 - Cupar
Cathrine born 27 Mar 1831, Cupar
Thomas born 10 Mar 1833, Cupar, (my direct relative) he married Jane Watson
Margaret (Maggie) born 11 Jan 1835, Cupar
Henry born 12 Mar 1837, Cupar, assuming the 1st Henry had died by this time
William born 2 Mar 1840, Cupar
John born about 1842, Cupar

Still looking for partners of the family will let you know as soon as, however any information on the above would be appreciated.

Regards
Marion
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Monday 10 October 11 20:11 BST (UK)
I saw on reply#24 of this thread you refer to Elizabeth Duff, Robert Christie and Jane Crewar (I always believed this was Grewar with a G). Is it possible to get more information on these 3 people.  

Hi Susan   yes your right, after looking again at the picture
it should have been GREWAR, photo available if you wish one.
Know nothing else on the above family, but have these other
stones in Dunfermline Cemetery, do you see any names in your research

Dun.   1524   Jame   Christie   Christina   Allan
Dun.   960   James   Christie   Margaret   Ritchie
Dun.   1752   James   Christie   Helen   Thomas
Dun.   675   John   Christie   Elizabeth   Christie
Dun.   1868   John   Christie   Jemima   Keddie

Dun.   2598   Alexander   Duff   Elizabeth   McBain
Dun.   1890   David Oglivie Duff   Mary Christie Leitch

Dun.   426   Robert   McPherson Agnes   Duff
Dun.   1499   Robert   Christie   Elizabeth   Duff
Dun.   2282   Matthew   Armit   Johnina B   Duff
Dun.   1769   Alexander   Penman  Margaret   Duff

Norrie

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: duffsusan on Monday 10 October 11 22:08 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie

I would love the picture for Jane Grewar and Elizabeth Duff if you have them.

Thanks so much!!
Susan Duff Timinski
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 11 October 11 08:16 BST (UK)
Hi Susan headstone photo
Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: duffsusan on Tuesday 11 October 11 23:38 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Norrie! You do not have an image for Jane Grewar as well, do you?

Sue
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 12 October 11 23:02 BST (UK)
Hi Susan that was the only Headstone image I have
that mentioned Jane GREWAR

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: duffsusan on Wednesday 12 October 11 23:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Norrie. Is it that they are buried in the same location and the stones were updated? You do not happen to have MIs for Cothill or Clunie churchyard?

Thanks! You have been a great help!
Sue
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 15 October 11 21:09 BST (UK)
Is it that they are buried in the same location and the stones were updated? You do not happen to have MIs for Cothill or Clunie churchyard?

Hi Sue      question did Jane Grewar die someplace else

I don't have the MIs for Cothill or Clunie churchyard
If you google Clunie churchyard you will an address in
Blairgowrie you can contact for burial details

Norrie


Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: duffsusan on Saturday 15 October 11 21:30 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie

I believe Jane is correct. I was moving onto her first husband John Duff. I figured since you were so helpful with Jane you may know about Cothill Clunie or how I can get the correct information. I have a death record for John Duff and it states 26Jun1875 Cothill, Clunie Perth. Am I wrong to assume Clunie churchyard? I am stuck with him as I cannot find birth information anywhere. I am hoping the MI may help me if there is one  :)

Thanks so much!
Sue
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 25 October 11 20:17 BST (UK)
I was moving onto her first husband John Duff. I figured since you were so helpful with Jane you may know about Cothill Clunie or how I can get the correct information. I have a death record for John Duff and it states 26Jun1875 Cothill, Clunie Perth. Am I wrong to assume Clunie churchyard? I am stuck with him as I cannot find birth information anywhere.
Hi Sue   as you have the death certificate who was his parents.?
Cothill was a farm Clunie, Google Cothill for a map.
have you checked the 1871  Census?
you said on roots web
 I’am looking for any information about John Duff he was born 1844 in Scotland, and died June 29, 1875 in Cothill, Clunie, Perth, Scotland. He was married to Jane Grewar on December 17, 1869 in Inverharrity, Glenisla, Angus, Scotland,
IGI gives
Father: John Duff, Mother: Jane Grewar

 1. ELIZABETH DUFF - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 SEP 1873 Glenisla, Angus, Scotland
 
 2. PETER DUFF - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 APR 1870 Glenisla, Angus, Scotland
 
 3. MARJORY DUFF - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 09 FEB 1872 Glenisla, Angus, Scotland

it also has a John Duff born 11.2.1844 to James Duff & Agnes Osler

NorrieG
 
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: duffsusan on Monday 31 October 11 03:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie

We believe John who was married to Jane Grewar has parents Peter Duff and Elizabeth McKay. I cannot find any info about the birth of John aside from the location in the census and death records.

I do have the 1971 census. It has John with Jane and son Peter with John listed as ag laborer. It has him living at 5 Craig and confirms his birth in Coupar Angus. I assume Craig is the farm lived and worked on. I am unable to find any birth for John or marriage record for Peter and Elizabeth McKay. Peters death record has him married to Elizabeth McIvers.
Any ideas? ;)

Susan
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: weemanswife on Wednesday 02 November 11 18:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie,

I was wondering if you could send me the photo of 162  eg. William Carswell and his wife Cecilia Dewar who died 8 Feb 1895.

Thanking you
Joan
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Thursday 03 November 11 12:26 GMT (UK)
 was wondering if you could send me the photo of 162  eg. William Carswell and his wife Cecilia Dewar who died 8 Feb 1895.

Hi Joan I sent you the picture on reply 55 on the 6th July
roots web won't allow me to send again

162    1851 Erected by William CARSWELL & Cecilia DEWAR
   son George died 22.5.1850 age 4
   daughter Mary CARSWELL 28.6.1851 – 7.71851
   William CARSWELL died21.5.1882 age 64
   Wife Cecilia DEWAR died 8.2.1895 age 76

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: weemanswife on Thursday 03 November 11 17:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie,

Sorry about that.  Looked back and got it.  Thank you.


Weemanswife
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: klg8 on Wednesday 16 November 11 01:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie,

Any HAGGARTY's at all?

It's a longshot.. can't find any trace anywhere!

klg8
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 16 November 11 19:10 GMT (UK)
Any HAGGARTY's at all?
It's a longshot.. can't find any trace anywhere

Hi Klg8
sorry no Haggartys in index
on Haggarts in 1841 free Cen for fife or
pre 1855 FFHdeath cd
but in the 1851 Free Cen for fife there is one
family in Dunfermline

Piece: SCT1851/424 Place: Dunfermline -Fife Enumeration District: 13
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Dunfermline
Folio: 0 Page: 16 Schedule: 63
Address: Kirkgate Street Taylors Close
 
 Surname   First name(s)   Rel   Status   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks   
    HAGGARTY   John   Head   M   M   40   Labourer    Ireland - -       
    KEITH   Ann   Wife   M   F   46   Housekeeper    Ireland - -       
    HAGGARTY   Andrew   Son   U   M   13   Scholar    Ireland - -       
    HAGGARTY   Bridget   Dau   M   F   19   Ragcleaner & Picker    Ireland - -       
    HAGGARTY   Sarah   Dau   U   F   17   Ragcleaner & Picker    Ireland - -       
    DUNLOP   Patrick   Sonlaw   M   M   30   Labourer    Ireland - -       
    DUNLOP   Nelly   Visitr   U   F   12   Scholar    Ireland - - 

could this be what your looking for

Norrie

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: weemanswife on Friday 18 November 11 19:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie G,

Wondering if you could give me the MI and the photo for 163 its for William Martin died 13-8-1924 and Margaret T Carswell.

Thank you,

weemanswife
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Friday 18 November 11 22:13 GMT (UK)
Wondering if you could give me the MI and the photo for 163 its for William Martin died 13-8-1924 and Margaret T Carswell.

Hi Wemyss wife your inscription & photograph

163   1873 Erected by William MARTIN in memory of daughter
   Cecilia died 25.8.1866 age 6w
   Son John died 25.6.1859
   Margaret Carswells died 22.4.1872 age 28
   Daughter Cecilia Dewar MARTIN died 26.12.1956 age 88
   Above William MARTIN died 30.8.181924 age 91

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: klg8 on Saturday 19 November 11 05:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie,

Thanks so much for looking for me. I'm new on this rootschat and finding everyone so helpful  :)

My HAGGARTY interest stems from the following:

Janet YOUNG (b. 26/03/1780 Cupar, Fife d. 1864) md Charles HAGGARTY 07/12/1802 Edinburgh.

On the marriage entry it says Charles was in the Royal Navy. There was some later paperwork that indicated he was in the Merchant Navy so not quite sure. From what the family knows they went to Belfast, Ireland where their son Andrew HAGGARTY was born 01/10/1804. His birth shows up in the Cupar parish records but I think he was born in Ireland.

From what we then know Charles must have died - perhaps in the Napoleonic wars of the time and we think Janet remarried as the son Andrew became known as Andrew Haggarty GILLESPIE. We've been unable to find Charles or the GILLESPIE marriage so we're not 100% on all this but Ireland does seem the most likely place Charles was originally from.

 I just keep looking for Haggarty's in hope that someone stumbles across the right one.

klg8 (Karen).
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 19 November 11 20:51 GMT (UK)
I just keep looking for Haggarty's in hope that someone stumbles across the right one.

Hi Karen  I will keep your HAGGARTYs on my wanted list
all the best with your research

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Marg7 on Sunday 18 December 11 09:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie
Could you please send me the MI for George Edmeston and Mary Walker  No.169
And I would love a photo of the grave if possible
Many thanks
Margaret
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Sunday 18 December 11 19:46 GMT (UK)
Could you please send me the MI for George Edmeston and Mary Walker  No.169
And I would love a photo of the grave if possible

Hi Margaret  the inscription reads, included Photo

169   Erected by George EDMESTON in memory of his father
   James EDMESTON died    27.10.1820 age 92
   Mary WALKER wife of George EDMESTON
                died 6.2.1839 age 67
   Back of stone
   Barbara SMITH 1st wife of James EDMESTON
                died 23.5.1781 age 43
                Betty Bennet 2nd wife of James EDMESTON
                died 7.12.1803 age 48

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Marg7 on Tuesday 20 December 11 13:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie.   The gravestone must have originally been upright if there is an inscription on the other side as well.  You wouldn't by any chance have a photo of the other side would you ?   I  don't really expect so, but just thought I would ask.
Thanks for this, much appreciated.
Margaret
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 20 December 11 16:43 GMT (UK)
You wouldn't by any chance have a photo of the other side would you ?

Hi Margaret sorry no as you say its lying flat
the inscription on the back came from Mitchell MIs
recorded in 1972

Norrie   
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: hbcls8 on Wednesday 25 January 12 18:12 GMT (UK)
Hi NorrieG

Could you please give me details about the following MIs:

98   Charles Lees & Jean Young
100 Charles Lees & Catherine Torbayne
128 Henry Jack Duncan & Katherine Lees

TIA Helen
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 25 January 12 20:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Helen these are the inscriptions from Cupar Parish Church
Photos are available

98   opposite side of 100
   father Charles LEES died 1823 age 78
   mother Jean YOUNG died 1831 age 84
   son George Torbayne LEES died 12.7.1859 age 39
   wife Euphemia GLENDAY died 18.5.1901 age 75
   daughter Catherine died 10.10.1870
   daughter Mrs Farmer died 3.10.1885
   daughter Helen died 29.6.1901 age 94 ( wid. Of Thomas GREIG)


100   Charles LEES Manufacturer here died 15.10.1855 age 81
   daughter Jessie died 20.101839 age 25
   daughter Euphemia died 26.12.1846
   wife Catherine TORBYANE died 13.3.1856

128   Henry DUNCAN shoemaker died 26.12.1807 age 72
   Henry DUNCAN Manufacturer died 28.7.1848 age 77
   Wife Katherine LEES died 6.6.1836 age 65
   William DUNCAN tailor died 4.5.1841 age 38
   Jean DUNCAN died 23.6.1864 wife of James CURR
   Henry DUNCAN brick & tile Manufacturer died 2.12.1870 age 73
   David DUNCAN jeweller Cupar died Striling 2.4.1875 age 65
   Back of stone
   Son William surgeon dentist in Cupar & St Andrews
                died 19.7.1919 age 81 buried Warriston Cem. Edinburgh
                wife Cathrine AINSLIE died 10.2.1922 age 81
                Charles DUNCAN painter died 9.10.1884 age 84

Norrie

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: hbcls8 on Thursday 26 January 12 10:58 GMT (UK)
That's brilliant, thanks Norrie.  And yes, I would like the photos if that's at all possible.

Helen
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: crow41 on Friday 03 February 12 06:20 GMT (UK)
hi Norrieg,

have you any info on MI #11 James Loney and Catherine More.

thanks in anticipation,
barry
South Australia
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Friday 03 February 12 20:01 GMT (UK)
have you any info on MI #11 James Loney and Catherine More.
Hi Barry this is the inscription from Cupar Parish Churchyard, photo included

11  Erected By James & Catherine LONEY in memory to her
      mother Catherine MORE who died 18.12.1846 age 50
      widow of James LONEY who died 11.1.1862

Norrie

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: crow41 on Saturday 04 February 12 01:21 GMT (UK)
Norrie,
Thanks for the early reply and photo. This will fill in a blank for us.
We are having some problems with the early spelling of family names .e.g., Lonie and Mair in  lieu of Loney and More.
But that is part of the fun in tracing our family history.
Barry
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 14 February 12 23:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Barry  these are the headstones  I have with varions on Lonie
do you see any names of intrest

St.Dr   362 John   Paton   Barbara   Lonie
Abst   482 Walter   Stavert   Janet Buchanan Lonie
Lg   631 Joseph   Hampton   Jessie   Lonie
Les.   176 Charles   Hume    Jessie    Lonie
Les.   321 Andrew   Wallace   Eliza   Lornie
Dun.   75   William   Brown   Jean R   Lornie
Ceres   31  Andrew   Lonie   Mary   Greig
Dys   849 Henry   Lonie   Elizabeth   Nicol
Old C   145  James   Lonie   Jane   Stewart
Ew   1650 John   Lonie   Isabella   Grant
Kh   125  John   Lonie   Dorothy   Baldwin
Dys   289  Thomas   Lonie   Helen Ramsay  Shand
Kh   126  William Roy   Lonie   Betsy   Cunningham
Ceres   31    Andrew   Lonie Jun.   Jessie   Christie
Lg   604  William   Lonnie   Mary   Moodie

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: e2dmc on Thursday 16 February 12 16:06 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am a beginner to all this so please excuse any daft questions.

I am looking for information regarding the McLean family which I have traced back to the Parish records for Cupar where James McLean married Christina Bell in 1839.

I am therefore interested particularly in the following

42 Catherine Bell
46 Catherine Bell
118 Christina Bell
123 Jane Bell

thanking you in advance


Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Thursday 16 February 12 19:55 GMT (UK)
I am therefore interested particularly in the following
42 Catherine Bell
46 Catherine Bell
118 Christina Bell
123 Jane Bell

Hi e2dmc   the above inscriptions

42   From Mitchells MIs
   ( column with an urn) Catherine Bell wife of William ROY 
   died New Orleans 27.5.1858 age 41

46   Mitchell MIs
   William DRUMMOND Esq. Banker died 29.3.1867
   Wife Catherine BELL died 1.10.1877 age 82
   Children Eliza M. died 31.5.1828 age 3
   Mary E. died 22.4.1840 age 10
   William F. died 24.12.1844 age 18
   John died 7.8.1850 age 29
   Walter died 29.7.1850 age 27
   Thomas B. died 19.5.1854 age 26
   James died 24.2.1858 age 25

118   1853 In memory of Joseph PARKER died  1852 age 47
   wife Christina BELL died  1888 age 83
   children  George & William
   Francis Emsley PARKER died Hyeres France 1882 age 32
   George Hampshire PARKER died Los Angeles Cal. 18.2.1928 age 77
   Christine PARKER died 13.2.1929 age 88   

123   1844 George NESS died 28.11.1847 age 74
   wife Jane BELL died age 44
   daughter Mary died age 8
   son John died age 2
   son William died 2.11.1855 age 46
   back of stone Alex. TERRIS died 1844 age 41
   granddaughter Elizabeth TERRIS died age 2

regarding the McLean family which I have traced back to the Parish records for Cupar where James McLean married Christina Bell in 1839.
I have nothing in Index for this Family
they did not seem to redgister their children with the Church
the 1851 census gives
1851 census: Cupar Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 319 Page: 20 Schedule: 101
Address: 10 Well Street, Cupar

    MCLEAN   James   Head   M   M   33   Shoemaker    Fife - Cupar       
    MCLEAN   Christina   Wife   M   F   34       Fife - Cupar       
    MCLEAN   Christina   Dau   -   F   10       Fife - Cupar       
    MCLEAN   Euphemia   Dau   -   F   8       Fife - Cupar       
    MCLEAN   James   Son   -   M   1       Fife - Cupar
 
Question did they stay in Cupar or did the move to Dundee or Kirkcaldy

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: e2dmc on Friday 17 February 12 10:57 GMT (UK)
Norrie

Thank you for your prompt reply!

Yes they moved to Dundee and I have been working backwards, hoping to find some record. By the way I have a copy of the 1851 census and I read the address as 16 Well Street.

Edwin
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 18 February 12 21:54 GMT (UK)
 have a copy of the 1851 census and I read the address as 16 Well Street.
hi Edwin the census I used was from Free Cen they have it as 10

I had these from the 1881 census you will likely have them

  1881 census
Institution:   "Poor House Parish Of Dundee & Liff & Benvie"
   Census Place:   Dundee, Forfar, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203489     GRO Ref    Volume 282-4    EnumDist 42B    Page 19
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
John YOUNG   W   78    M   Lochee, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Labourer
Mary Ann ANDERSON       11    F   Feary Port On Craig, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Inmate
Agnes WRIGHT   U   27    F   Dundee
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Alexander WRIGHT       2    M   Dundee
   Rel:   Inmate
Ann CARGILL OR MOOR   M   45    F   Arbroath
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Ann MOOR       9    F   Arbroath
   Rel:   Inmate
James MOOR       > 1   M   Dundee
   Rel:   Inmate
Mary MC LEAN OR KELLY   M   47    F   Dundee
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Margaret LAFFERTY   U   42    F   Huntly
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
John MC INTEE   W   50    M   Ireland
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Weaver
Elisth. MC LEAN OR STEWART   W   68    F   Dundee
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Ann MC MAHON OR ALLAN   M   30    F   Ireland
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Barbara SINCLAIR   U   48    F   Aberdeen, Scotland
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Jane REITH   U   40    F   Aberdeen, Scotland
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Robert REITH       10    M   Dundee
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   None
Jane BRANNAN       13    F   Glasgow
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   None
William SADDLER   W   72    M   Inverarity
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Carter
Elizth. SINCLAIR   U   35    F   Lochee
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Weaver
Mary Ann SINCLAIR       12    F   Lochee
   Rel:   Inmate
Euphemia SINCLAIR       8    F   Lochee
   Rel:   Inmate
Catherine SINCLAIR       3    F   Lochee
   Rel:   Inmate
James MC LEAN   M   60    M   Cupar, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Shoemaker
Jane BRAND   U   40    F   Coatbridge
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Ann FORBES OR IRONS   U   57    F   Aberdeen, Scotland
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker
Betsy TAWSE   U   31    F   Dundee
   Rel:   Inmate
   Occ:   Millworker

Dwelling:   5 Tindals Wynd
   Census Place:   Dundee, Forfar, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203483     GRO Ref    Volume 282-3    EnumDist 2    Page 2
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
James MC LEAN   M   30    M   Cupar, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Porter At Railway
Georgina MC LEAN   M   30    F   Peterhead, Aberdeen, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
James MC LEAN       10    M   Dundee, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
George F. MC LEAN       6    M   Dundee, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
John MC LEAN       4    M   Dundee, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Frederick MC LEAN       1    M   Dundee, Forfar, Scotland

Norrie


Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: e2dmc on Sunday 19 February 12 16:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you again.I have the 1881 census details for Tyndals Wynd, who are my direct ancestors. I have been using Scotlands People, so will now try Free Cen where I can. Not sure how I missed Free Cen as I have been using Free BDM but for English/Welsh ancestry. I will have to see where the other McLeans take me.

Edwin
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: mcwacky on Saturday 25 February 12 16:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie

Any chance of photos of these three MI's.

98   Charles Lees & Jean Young
100 Charles Lees & Catherine Torbayne
128 Henry Jack Duncan & Katherine Lees

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 25 February 12 19:34 GMT (UK)
Any chance of photos of these three MI's.
98   Charles Lees & Jean Young
100 Charles Lees & Catherine Torbayne
128 Henry Jack Duncan & Katherine Lees

Hi Wacky these are the inscriptions, the photographs are not all that clear
and I have used Mitchiles MIs to help

100   Charles LEES Manufacturer here died 15.10.1855 age 81
   daughter Jessie died 20.101839 age 25
   daughter Euphemia died 26.12.1846
   wife Catherine TORBYANE died 13.3.1856

98   opposite side of 100
   father Charles LEES died 1823 age 78
   mother Jean YOUNG died 1831 age 84
   son George Torbayne LEES died 12.7.1859 age 39
   wife Euphemia GLENDAY died 18.5.1901 age 75
   daughter Catherine died 10.10.1870
   daughter Mrs Farmer died 3.10.1885
   daughter Helen died 29.6.1901 age 94 ( wid. Of Thomas GREIG)

128   Henry DUNCAN shoemaker died 26.12.1807 age 72
   Henry DUNCAN Manufacturer died 28.7.1848 age 77
   Wife Katherine LEES died 6.6.1836 age 65
   William DUNCAN tailor died 4.5.1841 age 38
   Jean DUNCAN died 23.6.1864 wife of James CURR
   Henry DUNCAN brick & tile Manufacturer died 2.12.1870 age 73
   David DUNCAN jeweller Cupar died Striling 2.4.1875 age 65
   Back of stone
   Son William surgeon dentist in Cupar & St Andrews
                died 19.7.1919 age 81 buried Warriston Cem. Edinburgh
                wife Cathrine AINSLIE died 10.2.1922 age 81
                Charles DUNCAN painter died 9.10.1884 age 84

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 25 February 12 19:36 GMT (UK)
Headstone photo 128
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: mcwacky on Saturday 25 February 12 19:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks ever so much, Norrie, you're an absolute star!
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Friday 02 March 12 23:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Wacky I have these 2 Headstones in Ceres Cemetery, not
to far away from Cupar any intrest?

Ceres 4   David   Lees   Isabella   Forrester
Ceres 97   David   Lees   Elizabeth Lawson   Anderson

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: kirstyc on Tuesday 20 March 12 14:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie
I looked on your list for an MI for my ancestor Rev Dr James Cochrane but he doesn't seem to be there.  He was the Minister there from 1841 to his death in 1877. 
There is a stone and a window for him and his 2 sons - they must be inside the church:

stone 232: Rev Dr Cochrane minister first charge here, son Henry John 14/4/1850.  (perhaps this was instead of a MI?)

233 (window) James Church Cochrane of Bengal Civil service died Azamgarh 4/2/1874.

Any chance of a photo of these?  I would love to see one, or anything about Rev James Cochrane in the church records.  I'm trying to find out more about him but can't find a date of birth to go back any further.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 20 March 12 20:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Kirsty  sorry no photos inside Cupar Church

This is all the information I can find out about James Cochrane

Piece: SCT1851/420 Place: Cupar -Fife Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Cupar Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Cupar
Folio: 420 Page: 15 Schedule: 66
Address: Millgate, Cupar

    Surname   First name(s)   Rel   Status   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks   
    COCHRANE   Jas (The Revd)   Head   W   M   45   Minister 1st Charge Cupar    Clackmannanshire - Alloa       
    CHURCH   Margaret   Sislaw   U   F   41   Domestic Duties    Dumfries-shire - Canonbie       
    COCHRANE   Jane M   Dau   U   F   6       Fife - Cupar       
    COCHRANE   Catharine M   Dau   U   F   4       Fife - Cupar       
    COCHRANE   Eleanor C   Dau   U   F   3       Fife - Cupar       
    BLYTH   Agnes   Servnt   U   F   22   Servant    Fife - Cameron       
    LUMSDEN   Marion   Servnt   U   F   21   Servant    Midlothian – Edinburgh


JAMES JAMESON COCHRANE  Male     
Birth:  23 MAY 1805   
 Christening:  02 JUN 1805   Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
Parents:
  Father:  ROBERT COCHRANE  Family
  Mother:  JEAN COWIE 

Father: Robert Cochrane, Mother: Jean Cowie
 
 1. JAMES JAMESON COCHRANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 MAY 1805
 
 2. JAMES JAMESON COCHRANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 JUN 1805 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
 
 3. WILLIAM COCHRANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 AUG 1801 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
 
 4. MARJORY COCHRAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 OCT 1808
 
 5. MARJORY COCHRAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 OCT 1808 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
 
 6. ELIZABETH COCHRANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 SEP 1795 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
 
 7. JEAN COCHRANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 AUG 1798 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: tomk23 on Saturday 31 March 12 18:35 BST (UK)
Hello Norrie G , i am trying to trace a Thomas Kirkaldie , died 1903 in Dollar and believed to be buried in Cupar .
                                tom
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Sunday 01 April 12 20:22 BST (UK)
... my ancestor Rev Dr James Cochrane ...  He was the Minister there from 1841 to his death in 1877. 

Hi Kirsty

I thought you might be interested in the entry under the heading of Cupar Presbytery for James in the Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae the succession of ministers in the Church of Scotland Hew Scott D.D., Vol 5, Synods of Fife, and of Angus and Mearns. Oliver & Boyd Edinburgh: Tweeddale Court 1925

"JAMES COCHRANE, M.A.: pres. by Queen Victoria 5th Feb., and ord. 13th May 1842; trans. to First Charge 18th Aug. 1843."

pres. = presented
ord. = ordained

Not a lot, I appreciate, but somethiing different nevertheless.

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Sunday 01 April 12 21:00 BST (UK)
There was a bit more on another page ...

JAMES COCHRANE, born Alloa 1805, son of John C. and Catherine Anderson; educated at Univ. of Edinburgh; M.A. (1828); licen. by Presb. of Edinburgh 28th April 1830; private secretary to Dr. Thomas Chalmers and librarian to Theological Library, Univ. of Edinburgh; ord. to Second Charge 13th May 1842; pres. by Queen Victoria 3rd, trans. and adm. 18th Aug. 1843; D.D. (Edinburgh 1871); died 21st May 1887.  He marr. 22nd Oct. 1841, Jane (died 3rd April 1850), daur. of James Church, Park House, Canonbie, and had issue – Henry John, born 2nd Jan. 1843, died 14th April 1850; Jane Margaret, born 28th Oct. 1844 (marr. William Little, Burnfoot, Langholm); Catherine Mary, born 27th Nov. 1846 (marr. Ernest William Peto Betts, Rector of Drayton – Beauchamp, Bucks.); Eleanor Christian, born 26th Jan 1848 (marr. Henry M. Church M.D., Edinburgh); James Church, Indian Civil Service, born 4th March 1850.  Publications – Manual of Devotion (Edinburgh, 1836); The Protestant’s Manual (Edinburgh, 1839); The Works of H. Binning, with a Life of the Author (1839); The Present State of the Church (Cupar-Fife, 1843); Manual for Sabbath School Teachers ; Communicant’s Companion ; The World to Come (Edinburgh, 1847, 2nd Ed. 1852); Discourses on Peculiar Texts of Scripture (Edinburgh, 1848); Companion to the Sacrament of the Lord’s Supper (Edinburgh, 1850); Discourses on Difficult Texts of Scripture (Edinburgh, 1851); Discourses on the Last Things (Edinburgh, 1855); The Temple of God and how to Build it (Cupar, 1861); The Resurrection of the Dead (Edinburgh, 1869). – [The Fife Pulpit, 118-128.]

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 03 April 12 10:24 BST (UK)
trying to trace a Thomas Kirkaldie , died 1903 in Dollar and believed to be buried in Cupar .

Sorry Tom nothing on my index for Cupar parish Church Cemetery.
but could be in the new cemetery just ouside Cupar

Scottish Monumental Inscriptions are about to bring out a Cd for this
cemetery and you can check on line to see if his name is listed.
remember its only where there are headstones

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: tomk23 on Tuesday 03 April 12 11:08 BST (UK)
Thanks very much Norrie , is the ceres cemetery transcribed , he could be there .
Tom
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 03 April 12 14:35 BST (UK)
Hi Tom   yes there is a stone for Kirkcaldy in Ceres
but wrong spelling KIRKCALDY
Thomas Kirkcaldy died 1959 age 78 & Christina McLEAN died 1939 age 58
I see in 1881 census Edinburgh a Thomas KIRKALDIE born 1854 Cupar
and his wife Janet? born 1853 Burntisland
who were his parents?, did they always spell Kirkaldie that way.

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: tomk23 on Tuesday 03 April 12 15:43 BST (UK)
thanks Norrie , none of these dates match up with mine , there are a few different spellings even in the same families ,often the mistake of registars who just wrote it down as it sounded and was never corrected , i will need to do a bit more research , i believe there are a few in Kilmany churchyard but without stones .
 thanks tom .
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: tomk23 on Monday 09 April 12 00:08 BST (UK)
Hello Norrie , sorry my dates were wrong , the thomas you mention in the edinburgh cesus is the son of the thomas who i believe is buried in cupar , the census confirms he belonged to cupar , i am fairly sure he would have a stone as they were quite well of , what other cems are in the cupar area ?
        regards tom .



Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: boston14 on Saturday 14 July 12 15:11 BST (UK)
Norrie,
              I have just found this thread ,and wondered if you had any information on a Robert Robertson b about 1760 and his wife Clementina Stuart b about 1760 , They had five   children I believe , Jane 1789,Agnes 1791, Robert 1793, Elizabeth 1794, and William 1796. Robert senior was  a jeweller in Cupar. If you had a photo of their gravestone I would be very grateful . I think the cemetery is near `wynds`?
much obliged
ep
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 14 July 12 22:51 BST (UK)
Hi Evelyn sorry no headstones in Cupar Parish Church Cemetery
for your Robertsons, there are a number of Robertsons there, just not
yours.

FFHs pre 1855 death Cd gives this information

Robert Robertson Cupar
Buried 21.12.1820 age 65
Cause Dropsy

Clementina Robertson ( Stew) Cupar
Buried 10.4.1830 age 71
Widow of Robert Robertson

William Stewart Robertson  Cupar
Died 22.10.1847 age 51
Tinsmith & plumber
Son of Robert Robertson & Eliz Stuart

NorieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: boston14 on Sunday 15 July 12 10:42 BST (UK)
Norieg,
              Thank you so much for the info , it was good of you to look it up . Although there is no headstone I now have some definite dates for Robert and Clementina .
Many thanks
EP
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Dorothy G on Sunday 22 July 12 05:36 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie
A latecomer to this thread.  :)
Are there any gravestones for OGILVY?  My grandmother, Lizzie Ann Bruce INNES, whose mother was Elizabeth Ogilvy, was born at Coupar Grange in 1877, and Ibelieve there was family there.

Many thanks
Dorothy
New Zealand
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: boston14 on Sunday 22 July 12 06:05 BST (UK)
Norrieg
              You happened to mention other Robertsons last time . Could I trouble you for their names and headstones  if there is not too many for you to detail ? Hoping  I may be able to connect them up .
Much obliged
EP
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Sunday 22 July 12 20:13 BST (UK)
,My grandmother Lizzie Ann Bruce INNES, whose mother was Elizabeth Ogilvy, was born at Coupar Grange in 1877,  

Hi Dorothy  when I look for Coupar Grange it comes up as in Perthshire

Cupar Cemetery is in the middle of Fife,

Who was Elizabeth Oglivie married to?

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Dorothy G on Sunday 22 July 12 20:24 BST (UK)
Oh.  Sorry!  Elizabeth was married in Dundee in 1875 to Alexander INNES from Banffshire.  He died in Canada in 1890.  Elizabeth was born in Dundee, the daughter of John OGILVY and Elizabeth BRUCE, in 1843.  She died in Balmerino in 1922.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Sunday 22 July 12 21:02 BST (UK)
You happened to mention other Robertsons last time . Could I trouble you for their names  

56   James Scott died 1869 wife Mary Ann Robertson
   died 15.2.1871

74   William Robertson d 3.7.1837 wife Rachel Anderson died 20.11.1847
   son Thomas wine merchant d12.5.1854. daugh. Rachel Low d 10.6.1868
   son James died London 3.7.1872. son William late bank manager
   Ballarat Aust. Died 25.4.1888. son John  Wine Mch. died 4.6.1886
   Son John medical Student d 29.8.1897. da Janet d 18.4.1894.
   da Eliz d 11.3.1890.

88   Peter Scott d 24.1.1858 age 63
wife Isabella Robertson d 18.12.1873 age 73

157      James Robertson weaver d 9.1.1795

177         Erected by Robert Robertson Farmer
            William Stewart Robertson d 22.10.1847 age 50
      Gfa Robert Robertson d 1821 age 60
      Gfa James Mitchell d 1825 age 59
      Ggm Violet Walker d 1848 age 80
      William Stewart Robertson d 16.12.1854 inf.
      Eliz Robertson d 11.9.1855 age 2
      Robert Robertson d 10..6.1871 age 13
      Father Robert Robertson d 10.11.1874 age 46
      Wife Barbara Wilson d. 1869 age 36

186   John Robertson d 29.12.1892
      wife Janet Smith d 12.2.1917
 da. Isabella d 9.11.1960 age 83

197      William Robertson smith Cupar
wife Agnes Duncan d 1.1.1797 age 32

223      1849 William Robertson mason d 30.9.1846 age 60
      2 children died in infancy
      da Ann d 19.1852
      wife Margaret Rodger d 3.11.1868 age 75
      George Robertson Mason d 15.2.1890 age 71
      Wife Jane Ross d 25.1.1881 age 53

Norrie

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: boston14 on Monday 23 July 12 06:21 BST (UK)
Norrieg,
                    Many thanks for these , hopefully they will shed some light on members of the family .
                     Much obliged to you .
                            EP
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: kirstyc on Tuesday 14 August 12 14:25 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie and Chiad Fhear
Firstly, apologies - for some reason I didn't get an alert about responses to this thread, and have been by for a while, so have only just seen your replies. Thank you both very much for looking up Rev Cochrane for me - that's really helpful and you have filled in some gaps for me.

cheers
Kirsty  :)
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Maxrodger on Tuesday 06 November 12 20:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie looking back through your postings on
SCT-FIFE you posted New Headstones in Cupar Old
Parish Church 4
in 2006

could I please have inscriptions for
165 William Robertson & Margaret Rodger
204 George Innes & Margaret Rodger

Thanks Max

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Sunday 11 November 12 19:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Max your inscriptions from Cupar Parish Church

165   1849 William ROBERTSON mason died 30.9.1845 age 60
   2 children died in infancy
   daughter Ann died 19.5.1859
   wife Margaret RODGER died 3.11.1868 age 75
   Grandchildren Mary Ann & William BOYLE
   George ROBERTSON mason died 15.2.1890 age 71
   His wife Jane ROSS died 25.1.1881 age 53


204   George INNES mason died 22.12.1863 age 65
   wife Margaret ROGER died 27.5.1883 age 65
   daughter Margaret died in infancy
   daughter died April 1894 age 49

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Maxrodger on Saturday 22 December 12 14:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Norrie  could I please have a photograph of this headstone
165   1849 William ROBERTSON mason died 30.9.1845 age 60
   2 children died in infancy
   daughter Ann died 19.5.1859
   wife Margaret RODGER died 3.11.1868 age 75
   Grandchildren Mary Ann & William BOYLE
   George ROBERTSON mason died 15.2.1890 age 71
   His wife Jane ROSS died 25.1.1881 age 53

Thanks Max

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Saturday 22 December 12 23:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Max  the photo is not all that clear but remember its been around
from 1859.over a 150 years. and it is of sandstone which dosen't wear well.
I took the inscription from Mitchells MIs which is from Around 1970/80

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Mike Brown on Sunday 03 March 13 17:33 GMT (UK)
Hello Everyone.  Sorry if I am in the wrong topic but my search led me to one of the middle pages.

I am researching my dad's side of the family  and I have gotten stuck at only my Great Grandfather.  Unfortunately no other family exists to give me any info so I am looking for some here.

My dad, George Donald Brown b. 7 Sep 1929 Cupar d. 27 Mar 1994 Kirkcaldy
His dad: George Brown b. 1900 Cupar d.1963 Cupar. Married to Kate MacCorquodale
His dad: George Brown b 1861 Dunbog Married to Helen S Turpie Parents to George & Helen A Brown.

If anyone can provide information on either the Browns or the Turpies I would be most grateful

The 'next dad', my Great, Great Grandad may also have been a George and he may have married one Helen Black!

Thank you
Mike Brown
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Sunday 03 March 13 19:58 GMT (UK)
My dad, George Donald Brown b. 7 Sep 1929 Cupar d. 27 Mar 1994 Kirkcaldy
His dad: George Brown b. 1900 Cupar d.1963 Cupar. Married to Kate MacCorquodale
His dad: George Brown b 1861 Dunbog Married to Helen S Turpie Parents to George & Helen A Brown

Hi Mike welcome to Fife Roots Chat I have checked my headstone index but cannot see stones for the above. In the presently in use Cupar Cemetery in the index of the Scottish Monumental
Inscriptions for that Cemetery it lists a MacCorquodale this could be the above Kate
you can purchase their Cd for £12

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Mike Brown on Sunday 03 March 13 20:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks Norrie, but Kate is buried in teh main cemetery on teh Ceres road.  I realised that teh topic was the old church's cemetery, no relatives there IU'm sure, but my search lande me in teh middlle of this topic and I didnt know where elese to look.
Thanks
Mike Brown
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: danishdots on Friday 22 March 13 10:47 GMT (UK)
Dear Norrie,
Wonder can you help again please?  Am just out of hospital and remember finding a fabulous photo of headstone, before I was admitted,  in Fife ???Cupar with PRATT and SANDS on it but cannot remember where or how I found it!!!  I should have kept the link I know!  Can you give me any lead please? :-[

Much appreciated,
Danishdots
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 26 March 13 13:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Danishdots  Sorry they were not mine. don't know where else you could look

Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: danishdots on Wednesday 27 March 13 18:00 GMT (UK)
Thanks Norrie- will just have to keep looking. 

 :'(
Danishdots
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 01 October 13 11:02 BST (UK)
Hi, Norrie
I couldn't find a direct thread for Ceres gravestones so I thought I'd ask you directly if you've any photos or records for Ceres.
I've a relative who was married to John Howie of Ceres. Her name is Jean Dobie or Durie. The Dobie is not traceable so I think it may be Durie.
However, there is a MI inscription, I assume for Ceres, which reads something like Jean DOBIE Alias HOWI:(e) of Ceres. Died: Aug 1799 Aged: 82 Widow of Jean (John) Howie. Year tentative   Mitchel Monumental Inscriptions - according to the FFHS disk. On looking at it I can see that, if the stone were old and weathered, the top of the O if missing could be a U, and the B could be an R.

Hi Jim sorry nothing for John HOWIE & Jean DOBIE but there are 2 headstones
in Ceres Cemetery, could they be connected ?

45   Oliver HOWIE Builder died 11.11.1863 age 75
   children Margaret & Agnes died in infancy
   Jane Howie died 14.8.1844 age 17
   Oliver Howie died 7.11.1859
   William Howie died 1866
   George died 1887?
   Robert died 28.6.1887
   Elizabeth died 1861
   wife Agnes Clark died 1877

46   Erected by George HOWIE in memory of his wife
   Agnes YOUNGER died 9.11.1829 age 38?
   son George died 25.5.1827 age 1 month
   Margaret PETRIE his mother died 9.9.1833? age 70?
   his brother James HOWIE died 24.9.1845 age 38
   his father John HOWIE died 4.5.1845 age 58?
   above George HOWIE who departed this life 28.3.1861 age 79

attached photos  Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Mainmanjim on Tuesday 01 October 13 16:24 BST (UK)
Hello, Norrie
 Thanks for the photos. I have the Oliver Howie / Agnes Clark family on one of my branches. Oliver was a grandson of John Howy and Jean Durie/ Dobie whom I'm trying to sort out.
Just for the record, their son George died 03 Jan 1867 at Ceres and daughter Elizabeth died 02 Dec 1868. As far as I can tell there were ten children. The dates on the stone were useful, thanks.
 As for George Howie and Agnes Younger, and George's parents John H and Margaret Petrie, I've stumbled across them a few times but haven't been able to link them with my tree. There appear to be twelve children of John and Margaret.
Given the large number of Howies from Ceres, I'm surprised that there are only two Howie headstones.
I'm grateful to you
Jim
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: kirstyc on Tuesday 30 September 14 13:35 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie
If you ever come across a gravestone in Cupar Churchyard for James Cochrane, 1805-1877, I'd love to see a photo. There's a plaque for him inside the church, and 2 windows for his sons, which I have seen and photographed. He was the minister at Cupar (1st charge) from 1842-77 and the current minister says he is buried in the churchyard somewhere. I spent a couple of hours looking at the gravestones there last year but couldn't find it, and the minister wasn't sure where it was.

best wishes
Kirsty
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: fifer1947 on Friday 17 October 14 14:22 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie
I'm interested in the Thomson MIs, if you would be so kind  :)

196   William Thomson   Mary Ann   Bayne
103   David   Thomson    Ann   Spens
65   David   Smith      Elizabeth Thomson
174   Michael Smith      Helen   Thomson
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Monday 20 October 14 17:50 BST (UK)
Hi Norrie
I'm interested in the Thomson MIs, if you would be so kind  :)

196   William Thomson   Mary Ann   Bayne
103   David   Thomson    Ann   Spens
65   David   Smith      Elizabeth Thomson
174   Michael Smith      Helen   Thomson

Hi Fifer your inscriptions for above

Norrie

65   1868 David SMITH  Builder Cupar died 12.10.1860
   wife Elizabeth THOMSON died 14.7.1850
   son David died Limerick 3.6.1847
   daughter Christina died 9.11.1865   
   daughter Elizabeth died 23.9.1869
   son George died 22.3.1873
   son Arthur died Bredbury Cheshire 22.7.1885
   granddaughter Catherine died 8.3.1880
   daughter Agnes died 15.1.1915

103   David THOMSON died 8.4.1879 age 87
   wife Ann SPENS died 20.3.1872 age 73
   Children John & Nathan died in Infancy
   Son James died Fitzroy Town Hall Melbourne Aust.
   10.9.1881 age 58
   son Robert died Luthrie 24.3.1889 age 70

174   Michael SMITH in Cupar Muir died 26.1.1829 age 74
   wife Helen THOMSON died 20.6.1841 age 78
   son David farmer Cults & Walton  died 21.7.1853 age 27
   daughter Margaret died 17.11.1870 age 80
   son Michael died 22.11.1882 age 82


196   Erected by William Thomson  Merchant in Cupar
   wife Mary Anne BAYNE died 7.2.1814 age 26

Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: fifer1947 on Thursday 23 October 14 16:30 BST (UK)
Thank you Norrie I'll now search amongst my Cupar/East Neuk Thomsons to see if any of these might tie in!  :)
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: cwallace2007 on Sunday 23 November 14 19:36 GMT (UK)
Norrie,
Would you be so kind as to send me a photo of number 23

23 Captain Andrew MITCHELL Royal Tay Fencibles and afterwords
Fifeshire Militia died 1837
Captian James MITCHELL Fifeshire Malitia died 29.4.1837
His wife Margaret CARASTAIRS died 15.11.1837
2nd son John died 1822 infant
1st son James bank manager Wigan died St. Andrews 8.1.1901
To the memory of Ann BURN wife of Rev. James TRAIL
Minster of St Cyrus ( aunt of the above Margaret CARSTAIRS

Thank you,
C Wallace
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Tuesday 25 November 14 11:51 GMT (UK)
Norrie,
Would you be so kind as to send me a photo of number 23

23 Captain Andrew MITCHELL Royal Tay Fencibles and afterwords
Fifeshire Militia died 1837
Captian James MITCHELL Fifeshire Malitia died 29.4.1837
His wife Margaret CARASTAIRS died 15.11.1837
2nd son John died 1822 infant
1st son James bank manager Wigan died St. Andrews 8.1.1901
To the memory of Ann BURN wife of Rev. James TRAIL
Minster of St Cyrus ( aunt of the above Margaret CARSTAIRS

Thank you,
C Wallace

Hi your photo for the above
Norrie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: cwallace2007 on Wednesday 26 November 14 00:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Norrie.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: MelOfFife on Friday 20 February 15 04:41 GMT (UK)
inscription only for no. 3, please !...thanks i.a.
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Wednesday 25 February 15 16:29 GMT (UK)
inscription only for no. 3, please !...thanks i.a.

3   Erected by Robert MELVILLE ( London)
   John MELVILLE died 9.6.1810 age 49
   Wife Helen MITCHELL died 10.12.1832 age 70
   Children Helen died 5.9.1827 age 25
   John died 30.9.1828 age 31
   Andrew died 28.8.1833 age 44
   Christian died 2.2.1840 age 38
   Above Robert MELVILLE died Riverhead Kent 27.9.1868

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Sunday 01 March 15 12:49 GMT (UK)
James Cochrane, 1805-1877 ... was the minister at Cupar (1st charge) from 1842-77

Hi "kirstyc"

I'm not connected, but the attached image is from Rev James Cochrane's entry in the Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ, New Edition, Volume VII: Synods of Fife and of Angus and Mearns, The succession of Scottish Ministers in the Church of Scotland from the Reformation, by the Rev. Hew Scott, D.D.

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Sunday 01 March 15 12:59 GMT (UK)
Hi "fifer"

I though you might be interested in the Funeral Notice for who I think may be your James from "The Argus" Melbourne, Victoria : Monday 12 September 1881:

"THE Friends of the late Mr. JAMES THOMSON, stonemason, many years hall-keeper, Fitzroy-Town-hall, are respectfully invited to follow his remains to their last resting place, in the Melbourne General Cemetery.
The funeral procession will move from his late residence, Fitzroy Town hall, THIS DAY (Monday, the 
12th inst.), at a quarter to 2 o'clock precisely."


There isn't a Death notice, but this is sometimes the case in the Australian papers  ::)

Cheers

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Suzibee on Thursday 09 February 17 01:35 GMT (UK)
Can I have any info that pertains to James Laing and Catherine Anderson please.

Any mention of NZ. I am chasing info for John Laing born Cupar Fife 1833 son of James Laing esq, Merchant Cupar Fife ( thses details were on a newspaper notice for his marriage on 29 Dec 1857 to Christina Brown here in Wellington NZ.

Thanks for anything
Sue Bowers
New Zealand
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 09 February 17 02:02 GMT (UK)
Can I have any info that pertains to James Laing and Catherine Anderson please.

Any mention of NZ. I am chasing info for John Laing born Cupar Fife 1833 son of James Laing esq, Merchant Cupar Fife ( thses details were on a newspaper notice for his marriage on 29 Dec 1857 to Christina Brown here in Wellington NZ.

Hi Suzi,

Hope you don't mind but I thought it may be best to include your request being to NorrieG which I'm including from his post of burials on page 1...

61   James   Laing      Catherine Anderson

Annie
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: NorrieG on Thursday 09 February 17 17:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosinish & Suzi the inscription from Cupar Parish Cemetery is


61   James LAING Merchant in Cupar died 20.9.1833 age 44
   son died in infancy 7.3.1834
   erected by wife Catherine HENDERSON

have included a photo

NorrieG
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Suzibee on Thursday 09 February 17 19:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much for your time and information

Regards
Sue B
New Zealand
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: Gavin Wilson on Thursday 14 February 19 18:51 GMT (UK)
Been researching my Family for past couple of years and traced them to Cupar/Kemback area. Due to health and now disability am restricted in travel. Therefore am asking if anyone can help and has information on Wilson's of Fife.
I live in Dunbar and was taken for a very short visit to Cupar church where I took pictures of (18) James Wilson & Jane Scott, & (18) Thomas Wilson & Mary Ann Robertson's headstones, but they don't seem to be link to my branch.
My family are
(1) David Wilson (b.abt1691) m.1716 Catharine Rodger (b.abt1695)
(2) David Wilson (b.1719 Ceres) m.1737 Jannet Peatie (b.1718 Leuchars)
(3) John Wilson (b.1745 Ceres d.1812 Kemback) m.1768 Agnes Gibson (b.abt1747 d.abt1824)
(4) John Wilson (b.1780 Kemback d.bfr 1861) m.? Jean Cunningham (b.abt 1792 Kemback d.aft11861)
(5) John Wilson (b.1821 Kemback d.1878 Inveresk, Musselburgh) m.1847 Cupar, Janet Ness (b1825 St Andrews d.aft1891 England)
I have much, much more information to share with those interested. Because the family lives and work in and around Cupar/Kemback I suspect they may have been interred there.
My e-mail address is gavin1wilson@btinternet.com
Title: Re: Cupar Parish Church MIs
Post by: cunningp on Friday 10 July 20 00:29 BST (UK)
Dear Norrie
I would be grateful for any further detail on:
186   Henry Jack Stark   Margaret Horsburgh
185   James   Stark      Barbara Horsburgh
60   John   Stark      Margaret Jamieson
Many thanks
Peter