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Hi this is John Prindle From the San Francisco USA Area…I was named after my grandfather John Mitchell from Cloone. He was born June 29, 1888. He died in `1961, the year before I was born.
He was the only son of William Mitchell born 1826. I understand he raised cattle in Cloone. He had at least four sisters who remained in the area. I was wondering if you could direct me to someone in your area (or post any information that might be helpful) who might know more about his history. John Mitchell married Rose O'Brien and came to America in 1926.
I have much of the history from the time the left Ireland...now am trying to trace back pre 1926
attached is a picture of their house...hope it come through.
Thank you
John
www.CaliforniaCoaching.net
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You could try looking in the 1901 census.for Leitrim.
There are quite a number of Mitchell's there.
www.leitrim-roscommon.com Lep
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This is a great site...the people very friendly and helpful...here is additional information on John Mitchell...another family source says he was the youngest and only son with 6 sisters (Margaret 1880-1938, Briget 1979-1969, Catherine, Alice 1885-1984,Theresa, and Anne). He sold the family farm in June of 1925 to a cousin, Micheal..son of Patrick Mitchell.....
John's paternal Grandparents were Owen Mitchell and H Kiernan who had six living children. Patrick, William, John, Bridget ....two other daughters (perhaps one was named Anne from reply below) married Tom Brady and Tom Mckeon
John Mitchell's parents were William Mitchell and Margaret Rourke Mitchell (1847-1849)
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So pleased you got the help.Yes they are very friendly and helpful Lep :)
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John
An Ann Mitchell of Cloone was my great-great-grandmother. I wonder if she was one of William's sisters.
Carleen
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This is a great site...the people very friendly and helpful...here is additional information on John Mitchell...another family source says he was the youngest and only son with 6 sisters (Margaret 1880-1938, Briget 1979-1969, Catherine, Alice 1885-1984,Theresa, and Anne). He sold the family farm in June of 1925 to a cousin, Micheal..son of Patrick Mitchell.....
John's paternal Grandparents were Owen Mitchell and H Kiernan who had six living children. Patrick, William, John, Bridget ....two other daughters (perhaps one was named Anne from reply below) married Tom Brady and Tom Mckeon
John Mitchell's parents were William Mitchell and Margaret Rourke Mitchell (1847-1849)
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Hello Mitchell-OBrien,
I'm an Australian author doing some research on the Mitchell Family. My grandfather was Owen Mitchell born in Cloone 1860. He left for Australia in 1903-04 - I think. His first wife died and he remarried Annie Mitchell (nee Ahern) and they had five children, one of which (Margaret) was my mother. He revisited Cloone in 1912. Owen died in Herberton, Nth. Qld, Australia in 1922. I have some old letters from a Maggie and Bridget and various photos - no names. I'm trying to find out the names of Owen's parents or other family members? I have a date of birth for Owen's father as 1827 and DOD 1901 and his mother DOB 1830 and DOD 1909...........regards....Robert Bartlett
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Checking 1901 census for Co. Leitrim (www.leitrim-roscommon.com) there's one possiility for Owen Mitchel, wife and children in Cloone:
Owen Mitchell (40) shopkeeper, Margaret Mitchell (40), Anna Maria Mitchell (17), Sarah Kate Mitchell (14), William Charles Mitchell (12), Ellen Mitchell (9), Margaret Luisa? Mitchell (7).
There is also an Anne Mitchell (widow) with Charles, Bridget and Rose.
Owen (born c1861) was born before civil registration of births in Ireland (1864) but this might be his parents and some siblings-
Owen Mitchell m. Anne Conlon:
1. Anne Mitchell born 27 Sept.1864 Mohill dist.
2. Charles Mitchell born 24 July 1866 Mohill dist.
3. Rose Mitchell born 12 Oct.1869 Mohill dist.
4. Catherine Mitchell born 8 Dec.1871 Co. Leitrim
5. Ellen Mitchell born 10 July 1874 Mohill dist.
If Owen Mitchell died in Australia are there any details on his death certificate like parents' names that might help?
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Thanks Aghadowey,
Yes, I saw that leitrim-roscommon.com and wondered about the entry. it would make him about the right age but I don't know about all the kids though. That was good info about the civil registration of births.....I didn't know about that.
The mention of Anne Mitchell (widow) Charles, Briget and Rose is interesting, as my mother was Margaret Rose Mitchell born 1915 in Australia, and she was called Rose. The letters I have are very faint and poorly written but one is addresses Owen as dear brother. They are from a Bridgit and Maggie.
I don't have Owen's death cert.
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This site for Griffith's Valuation might be useful:
http://staging.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php
Searching for Mitchell in Cloone Parish brings up lots of entries.
Think Owen's death certificate might be very useful if the informant knew the names of his parents, etc. (think Austalian certificates are slightly different in each state so before getting certificate check to see what information should be on it).
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found these on familysearch.org
births. MARIA 17-9-1872. ANNE 2-7-1874. MARGARET 15-10-1878. BRIDGET 15-2-1880. ALL BORN LEITRIM, IRE.
PARENTS. WILLIAM MITCHELL& MARGARET ROARKE.
regards mary.
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Thanks Aghadowey,
I checked the Griffiths valuation and noticed that there was a Bridget, Owen and Ellen Mitchel listed as tenants together. The same landlord (Jane O'Brien) was listed for all three. So there might be a connection with Mitchell-O'Brien.
As I'm familiar with the Irish property systems, am I correct in thinking that all land, houses and farms were lunder easehold in those times.
I must add- that this site is very friendly and helpful. Do you live in Ireland?
Thanks.....Robert Bartlett
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Thanks Mary,
I just noticed your post. I'll have a look in the site you recomemnded and let you know how I get on. Are you from Ireland as well?
Regards............Robert
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I've reread some old letters again and found that Owen Mitchell must have left Ireland prior to 1897 as he was first married in 1897 in Croydon, Nth. Qld, Aust.
His second marriage was in 1906 in Herberton, Nth. Qld. Aust. I believe there was sisters Bridgit & Margaret. Brothers Patrick & Michael. I also have an old letter from Owen's cousin called Lawrence Gaffrey of Cornulla - I hope my spelling is correct. .........regards....Robert
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yes robert i from derry/londonderry in the north of ireland.
regards mary.
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Most people in Ireland would have been tenants in the 1800s and even into 1900s.
Also live in County Londonderry in Northern Ireland.
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Hi Mary, I live north of Sydney (about 50Kms) at a place called Tuggerah on the central coast of NSW. I visited Cloone, Ireland, a few years ago but because of time restraints I was only there for a day - it's a very pretty place. One of my books is called Roisin and is based on my mother's life in Australia. The front cover has a photo of Owen Mitchell out the front of his hotel in Herberton, Nth. Qld, Aust. I also have a number of other old photos of unidentified people that look like they were taken in Ireland.......regards Robert
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Hello again Aghadowey, is your name an Irish surname or does it represent a pen name for a lady or gentleman? Most of my communicating is an information gathering process as I'm researching for a presequel to my book Roisin based on Owen Mitchel's life before he left Ireland. Another one of my books is called The Manx Deemster and will shortly be distributed around the Isle of Man......it's about money-laundering and corruption, but also covers Ireland & the UK.
Regards..........Robert
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Aghadowey is a parish in County Londonderry and was once a centre for the Irish linen industry.
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Thanks Aghadowey, I'm still learning about the various names in Ireland.
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Robert Bartlett IT IS A SMALL WORLD INDEED...LITTLE DID I SUSPECT WHEN i STARTED THIS THREAD THAT iRISH ROOTS WOULD POSSIBLY LEAD INTO AUSTRALIA WE NEVER HEARD MY GRANDMOTHER ROSE OBRIEN-MITCHELL SPEAK OF AUSTRALIAN CONNECTION....RAISES FASCINATING POSSIBILITIES.....WOULD LOVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE STORY OF WHAT BROUGHT OWEN TO Ireland. PLEASE KEEP US UPDATED ON YOUR RESEARCH AND KEEP US POSTED ON YOUR BOOK!
ON MY FATHER'S SIDE i WAS ABLE TO TRACE MY ANCESTRY INTO THE CALIFORNIA GOLD RUSH....AND BEYOND INTO THE 1600'S OF NEW ENGLAND us...IT IS GREAT THAT WE ARE NOW GATHERING SO MUCH INFORMATION ON MY MOTHER'S FATHER JOHN MITCHELL - GRANDSON OF OWEN...AND HIS ANCESTRY....MANY THANKS....KEEP THE POSTS COMING
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Thanks Mitchell-Obrien,
Owen Mitchell born Cloone 1860 died 1922
His wife Annie Mitchell (nee Ahern) born 1878 died 1961
As I mentioned, Owen left Ireland before 1897 but revisited around 1912.
Can you tell me Owen's parent's names, their parents names,etc + other details as I only have their dates:
father's name ? born 1827 where? died 1901 where?
mother's name? born 1830 where? died 1909 where?
I also have some old photos of unidentified people .....perhaps I could scan and sent them to you via personal email?
What is your relationship to Owen?
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Hi again Mitchell-Obrien,
I've researched some old births/deaths lists here in Australia and found:-
Owen Mitchell's parents were: Father - PatrickMitchell B. 1827 D. 1912 in Aust.
Mother -Bridget Mary nee.Gaffney B.1830 D. 1910
Their parents were: Father -Patrick John Mitchell D. 1901 where?
Mother -Margaret nee. Galigher D. ? where ?
This stream seems correct as the name Gaffney would relate to a Lawrence Gaffney......cousin to Owen. I have a letter dated 1912 from him in Cornulla.
Can you give me any more information regarding your relationship to Owen and the Mitchell family?...........regards Robert Bartlett
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HI Robert. It appears that the names don’t match as you stated your Owen Mitchell did not marry an H Kiernan and then had the six children listed below. We do know that my grandfather John Mitchell was born in 1826…have stories of him selling cattle. It did not appear that my Owen Mitchell if your Owen Mitchell as the names and dates don’t match. Alos your Owen ran a hotel…mine farmed cattle. This is what a Posted previously:
”Hi this is John Prindle From the San Francisco USA Area…I was named after my grandfather John Mitchell from Cloone. He was born June 29, 1888. He died in `1961, the year before I was born.
He was the only son of William Mitchell born 1826. I understand he raised cattle in Cloone. He had at least four sisters who remained in the area. I was wondering if you could direct me to someone in your area (or post any information that might be helpful) who might know more about his history. John Mitchell married Rose O'Brien and came to America in 1926.
John Mitchell was the youngest and only son with 6 sisters (Margaret 1880-1938, Briget 1879-1869, Catherine, Alice 1885-1984,Theresa, and Anne). He sold the family farm in June of 1925 to a cousin, Micheal..son of Patrick Mitchell.....
John's paternal Grandparents were Owen Mitchell and H Kiernan who had six living children. Patrick, William, John, Bridget ....two other daughters (perhaps one was named Anne from reply below) married Tom Brady and Tom Mckeon
John Mitchell's parents were William Mitchell and Margaret Rourke Mitchell (1847-1849)”
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John
I was trying to find another Cloone Mitchell in my family – a Mary Mitchell.
Whilst doing so, I believe I found a Mary Mitchell from your family –
Mary Mitchel was baptised 14 July 1872 in the Cloone Roman Catholic Church. Her parents were William Mitchel and Margaret Rorke. The address given was “Kiltyfay”. (This name fits with the Maria (Mary in Latin) born 17 September 1872 that “maryderry” found).
I also came across the Civil Marriage Record (Carrigallen Civil District) for her parents –
William Mitchell and Margaret Rorke were married on the 20th February 1871 in the Aughavas RC Church.
William’s address was given as “Kiltafea”, he was a farmer and his father was Owen Mitchell who was also a farmer.
Margaret’s address was Corronry; no occupation was given for her but her father John Rorke was a farmer.
Their witnesses were Thomas Kilkenny and Ellen Rorke.
I have aimed to type the names & places exactly as given – spellings varied a lot in those days. You might like to look at this web site which gives a map of the Cloone townlands:
www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/cloone.html
(My Mary Mitchel was born in Streamstown, Drumharkn Glebe, Cloone in 1873).
Best Wishes
Carleen
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Mary Mitchel was baptised 14 July 1872 in the Cloone Roman Catholic Church. Her parents were William Mitchel and Margaret Rorke. The address given was “Kiltyfay”. (This name fits with the Maria (Mary in Latin) born 17 September 1872 that “maryderry” found).
The birth and baptismal record seem to be for the same child but wonder if the birthdate is correct- if she was baptised in July the birth couldn't have taken place in September. Either wrong date in church records (which did happen) or birth was registered late and parents gave incorrect birthdate to cover it up.
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Aghadowey, you are of course right about the inconsistency of the dates of the 1872 Mary Mitchel.
Interestingly, I have just found the Civil birth record for my 1873 Mary Mitchell - 15th June 1873. Her baptism was also before she was born - 19th March 1873. It seems too much of a coincidence to have the same parents and be born in the same place and not be the same child.
I will write to the Leitrim Genealogy centre to see if they have a view.
Carleen
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John’s Owen
Owen Mitchell married Mary Kiernan or McKiernan
Children baptised at Kiltyfea
Eleanor bap. 17th Mar 1828
Hugh bap 10th Feb 1830
Francis bap. 6th Feb 1839
John bap. 14th Jan 1843
Bridget bap. 26th Feb 1844
There is no sign or Pat and William but there are several omissions from the records.
William married Magt Rourke of Corroneary on 20th Feb 1871 (Father John Rorke)
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baptisms in records
Mary Elleanor
14th Jul 1872 12th Dec 1875
not yet seen
Maggie, Bridget, Cath, Alice, Theresa, Anne, John Mitchell (m Rose O’Brien)
Robert’s Owen
Pat Mitchell of Drumdoo m Bridget Gaffney 21st Jan 1856 at Cloone
Mary baptised 6th Feb 1857 at Drumdoo
Eugene (Owen/Hugh) baptised 25th Nov 1858 at Drumdoo
Michael baptised 3rd Aug 1860 at Drumdoo
Pat baptised 2nd Aug 1862 at Drumdoo
(Drumdoo is a part of the townland of Bellakiltyfea (also known as Kiltyfea)
Laurence Gaffney may be the man born in Cornulla on 26th Nov 1875 - the name is unclear. That person is the son of Tom Gaffney and Catherine Cannon.
Jim
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Owen (born c1861) was born before civil registration of births in Ireland (1864) but this might be his parents and some siblings-
Owen Mitchell m. Anne Conlon:
1. Anne Mitchell born 27 Sept.1864 Mohill dist.
2. Charles Mitchell born 24 July 1866 Mohill dist.
3. Rose Mitchell born 12 Oct.1869 Mohill dist.
4. Catherine Mitchell born 8 Dec.1871 Co. Leitrim
5. Ellen Mitchell born 10 July 1874 Mohill dist.
Don't know if there is any link but I am trying to trace records of my Great Grandmother, Mary Mitchell who was born 1861 in Mohill. her father was James Mitchell, a "shoeing Smith". The dates could allow the above to be her siblings. I am going to try the LDS who have a library near me as soon as I can get a morning free.
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Owen (born c1861) was born before civil registration of births in Ireland (1864) but this might be his parents and some siblings-
Owen Mitchell m. Anne Conlon:
1. Anne Mitchell born 27 Sept.1864 Mohill dist.
2. Charles Mitchell born 24 July 1866 Mohill dist.
3. Rose Mitchell born 12 Oct.1869 Mohill dist.
4. Catherine Mitchell born 8 Dec.1871 Co. Leitrim
5. Ellen Mitchell born 10 July 1874 Mohill dist.
Don't know if there is any link but I am trying to trace records of my Great Grandmother, Mary Mitchell who was born 1861 in Mohill. her father was James Mitchell, a "shoeing Smith". The dates could allow the above to be her siblings. I am going to try the LDS who have a library near me as soon as I can get a morning free.
The above list (Anne, Charles, Rose, Catherine, Ellen) are children of Owen Mitchell and Anne Conlon- not a James Mitchell.
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Is this website any help!
http://www.aughavascloone.ie/
peter
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I have recently noticed that there is a MITCHELL project at
http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Mitchell
I don't have any living male Mitchell relations, that I know of, so cannot take part.
However, their Family Finder test has put me in touch with a Mitchell family. We are currently trying to work out how we link!
Carleen
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Re: Mitchell Family of Cloone.
From Robert in Australia (*)
My Great Grandfather Patrick Mitchell born Cloone 1826 and
Grandfather Owen Mitchell born Cloone 1860.
I have other family info if interested.
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Hi Carleen,
What are the names of the parents of this Mary Mitchell?
You have my email, you can send it to me, or post here for others.
Tammy Mitchell
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Re; Mitchell Family from Cloone
According to my records..Patrick & Bridget Mitchell (nee Gaffney) - my Great Grandparents -
had four children Mary, Owen, Michael and Patrick.
From Robert - Australia
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Hi Robert,
From reading this thread, it seems that Carleen's Mary Mitchell is different from yours? Or are they one in the same, that is a little unclear to me.
I'm interested in the parents names of the Mary that Carleen says she has in her tree.
Thanks,
Tammy Mitchell
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Hi Tammy Mitchell,
Yes I agree, some of the dates don't seem to gel, so I'm not sure.
As far as I know my Great grandparents Patrick Mitchell (Born 1827) married Bridget Mitchell (nee Gaffney) in 1856 at Cloone.
They had children Mary, Owen, Michael and Patrick, and I only know my Grandfather Owen was born in 1860 and died in Herberton (Qld-Aust) in 1922, and don't know the birth dates of the other children. However, I have old letters from the siblings & cousins from Cloone.
Also a Michael McCarrol from Dublin has recently made contact and we have discovered that his Grandfather was Michael Mitchell - Owen's brother.
Regards Robert
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Hi Robert, (and Michael McCarrol) -
Have any of your (or this) Mitchell clan tested with familytreeDNA, maybe - in the Mitchell surname project or perhaps registered in another surname project?
If so, can we share results?
Or maybe you or others related to this Mitchell clan might consider either the family finder test or the Y DNA test?
The reason I ended up on this message thread, is that a person in my family tree, with the surname Mitchell, has a distant match with Carleen Doherty, who posted here and has her ancestors listed a Peter Doherty and Ann Mitchell. So far the Mitchell surname is the only one we can find in common.
Here is a little info written by my cousin and fellow researcher Mary Mitchell, both her and her brother matched Carleen (this was written to a Susan, who is related to Carleen):
My name is Mary Mitchell G. My Mitchell line came from the Edinburgh area of Scotland, at least as far back as we have proven, about 1770. We do have the strong possibility for the next 2-3 generations back (the era of the Battle of the Boyne...later 1600s into the early 1700s) of "foot soldiers" in our line, but they are not yet proven. The family we first consider in that era had children baptised in both Glasgow and in Edinburgh, indicating that they were moving between those two cities.
My brother did the Y DNA test for me, and we know that he is R1b1b2a1b, which doesn't really prove much of anything as it is a common haplotype for Great Britain. We are in the Mitchell surname group, and so far, we have NO Mitchell matches....which also doesn't mean much of anything. (In an odd twist of fate, we have a few Maxwell matches at 25 markers with a genetic distance of 2. I have been told that this is an indication that my Mitchell name is an old one, because in Gaelic, Mitchell and Maxwell and spelled similarly and sound very much like Miexell.)
I am writing to you because my brother and I both recently did the "family finder" test at Family Tree DNA, and we both matched William Doherty, currently 95 years old, and a grandson of Ann Mitchell and Peter Doherty of Cloone. It seems that we certainly match, since it is both of us who match with William. The only ancestral surname that we share, that we know of, is Mitchell. I am in contact with William's daughter, Carleen, who is helping my cousin Tammy Mitchell and I try to research this line further.
Since the time that you posted your research, would you have come across anything further on Ann Mitchell's ancestry? Or, might you have suggestions as to where/how to research her further?
Thanks so much, for any help you may be able to give us.
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Tammy
ps, in Scotland, our 4th great grandfather was a cattle dealer/publican, so it' not that far off!!
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Hi Tammy,
I haven't any information on Ann Mitchell but will contact Kevin McConnell and see if he knows anything.
Regards...Robert
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Hi again Tammy,
No, I haven't done anything with DNA, and besides I'm way down in Australia. However,
Kevin McConnell in Dublin is a little closer.
Regards...Robert
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There are two types of tests, and there is significance of testing Mitchells with roots in Leitrim, so that worldwide, we can attempt to clarify who is related to whom?
I'd like to encourage folks....especially those of you with the Mitchell surname and roots in Leitrim, to consider DNA testing, as it adds a whole new dimension to genealogy and helps to clarify who is related to whom. Although costly, it can be done by anyone anywhere in the world. The site with the most data....therefore the ability to compare your genes to the most people....is Family Tree DNA. (I am not an investor!)
Their site is http://www.familytreedna.com
Upon selection of a test and payment of the fee, they will mail (to anywhere in the world) a swab kit. It consists of little brushes and little vials, instructions on how to swab the inside of your cheek and a return padded envelope. There are two tests you might consider. One is the Y DNA test, which can only be taken from a male (which in this case we hope would be a male with the Mitchell surname.) The other is the "family finder test", which looks at the "autosomal" DNA....i.e., genes that are not sex related; i.e., anyone can be tested. (The family finder test is how Carleen and Mary Mitchell G connected, as mentioned previously.) The family finder tests looks a small sample of the genes that are passed from parents, grandparents, great grandparents, great great grandparents (etc.) to you. Since each of us has a random pool of those genes, from grandparents, siblings will have some of those that match, and some that are different, so it is worth testing anyone/everyone in the family.....
There are excellent, but quick (maybe 3 minutes apiece) video clips put out by the University of Utah, that explain about the different types of DNA tests, and what information they will "tell" you. You can view them at:
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/extras/molgen/auto_dna.html
Click on "Autosomal DNA" to learn what can be learned from the "family finder test"; click on "Y Chromosome DNA" to learn what can be learned from the Y DNA test.
(above written by Mary)
I live in BC Canada. Mary lives in Florida, USA
Cheers
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Hi Mary, I live north of Sydney (about 50Kms) at a place called Tuggerah on the central coast of NSW. I visited Cloone, Ireland, a few years ago but because of time restraints I was only there for a day - it's a very pretty place. One of my books is called Roisin and is based on my mother's life in Australia. The front cover has a photo of Owen Mitchell out the front of his hotel in Herberton, Nth. Qld, Aust. I also have a number of other old photos of unidentified people that look like they were taken in Ireland.......regards Robert
Hi I am new to this site. I believe that Owen Mitchell inherited the Federal Hotel in Herberton in 1908 from Hugh McKiernan. Hugh is related to my family. I would be pleased if you could confirm that we have he same Owen Mitchell and would be very interested in a photo of the hotel if you are willing to share this....regards Immy
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Hi Immy,
I can't recall the name Hugh McKiernan anyway in my records nor the name Federal Hotel in Herberton, Nth. Queensland, however, in those days of Tin Mining there were a number of Hotels in the town.
When I visited Herberton some years back I noticed that there was now a large hardware store where the hotel once stood.
I have included a photo of the Herberton Hotel with my Grandfather standing out front, I hope it helps.
Regards...Robert Bartlett
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Thank you Robert. I don't know what connection Owen & Annie Mitchell had with Hugh McKiernan, but I would like to know more. Owen had the Star hotel at Calcifer in 1898-1899. This was transferred to McCarthy (related to Hugh McKiernan). Hugh McKiernan took over the Federal Hotel (previously known as the Sydney) Herberton in 1900 and I believe that Owen managed this for him from 1900 until Hugh's death in 1908. Hugh (who had 2 sons and a daughter living at the time of his death) in his Will left the Federal Hotel and Land on which it stand to Owen Mitchell and also both Owen and his wife Annie were left a sum of money by Hugh. Hence I feel there must have been a close connection between Hugh McKiernan and the Mitchells.
Owen Mitchell sold the Federal to J O'Donnell in 1912 and from 1914- Feb.1922 Owen held the licence at the P O Hotel, Herberton. Do you know the date of your photo? The photo does not show a large amount of the building, hence it is difficult to determine which hotel it might be. I am thinking that it would probably be the P O Hotel? Which of the gentleman standing in the photo is Owen (one with dark hat or the one with the light hat?
Appreciate you help
regards Immy
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Hi again Immy,
On the front on my Roisin novel the man with the dark hat with his hand in his pocket is Owen Mitchell.
I haven't heard of Calcifer and the other details you provided are news to me, but I do remember the name Post Office Hotel.
Where are you located? My novel has numerous photos within the book, including a broader picture of the hotel, and most of my books are available from Australian libraries. Some years ago I donated a copy of Roisin to the Cloone Library.
Regards..Robert B
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Hi Robert
I live in Tweed Heads, NSW, Australia. I will check our local library for your book. Have you got the obituary for Owen Mitchell? It can be found on Trove
Regards Immy
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Hi again Immy,
I checked the Tweed Heads Library catalogue and they haven't got Roisin listed, and the Gold Coast Library only has another of my books - The Manx Deemster - listed.
However, Logan City Library has a couple of copies of Roisin listed.
I heard that some Libraries will get books from other libraries for readers. James Bennet and Peter Pal (QLD)
distribute the books to the various libraries. The ISBN is 978-1920764-88-3.
regards...Robert B
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”Hi this is John Prindle From the San Francisco USA Area…I was named after my grandfather John Mitchell from Cloone. He was born June 29, 1888. He died in `1961, the year before I was born.
He was the only son of William Mitchell born 1826. I understand he raised cattle in Cloone. He had at least four sisters who remained in the area. I was wondering if you could direct me to someone in your area (or post any information that might be helpful) who might know more about his history. John Mitchell married Rose O'Brien and came to America in 1926.
John Mitchell was the youngest and only son with 6 sisters (Margaret 1880-1938, Briget 1879-1869, Catherine, Alice 1885-1984,Theresa, and Anne). He sold the family farm in June of 1925 to a cousin, Micheal..son of Patrick Mitchell.....
John's paternal Grandparents were Owen Mitchell and H Kiernan who had six living children. Patrick, William, John, Bridget ....two other daughters (perhaps one was named Anne from reply below) married Tom Brady and Tom Mckeon
John Mitchell's parents were William Mitchell and Margaret Rourke Mitchell (1847-1849)”
Hi Mitchell-obrien,
I am descended from Maria / Mary mitchell (born approx 1872), daughter of William Mitchell and Margaret Rourke. I have been looking for descendants of Mary's sister John Mitchell (who married Rose O'Brien) for some time.
Just to confirm this is the same family, I believe you may have had an uncle William Mitchell who may have worked for the civil service in an engineering capacity?
Mary / Maria Mitchell married a Patrick Reynolds in about 1893 and ended up having numerous children, I don't know if that name crops up in your research?
I don't have any additional information than that which you already have going back in time, but I have had some luck mapping the wider mitchell family still in Ireland.
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A repost of my 2009 posting for Robert Bartlett. - you said you did not know the other birth dates
Pat Mitchell of Drumdoo m Bridget Gaffney 21st Jan 1856 at Cloone
Mary baptised 6th Feb 1857 at Drumdoo
Eugene (Owen/Hugh) baptised 25th Nov 1858 at Drumdoo
Michael baptised 3rd Aug 1860 at Drumdoo
Pat baptised 2nd Aug 1862 at Drumdoo
(Drumdoo is a part of the townland of Bellakiltyfea (also known as Kiltyfea)
Laurence Gaffney may be the man born in Cornulla on 26th Nov 1875 - the name is unclear. That person is the son of Tom Gaffney and Catherine Cannon.
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Since I last posted in Feb 2009 I have come across some more of these families.
Owen Mitchell married Mary Kiernan or McKiernan
Children baptised at Killyfea
Eleanor bap. 17th Mar 1828
Hugh bap 10th Feb 1830
Francis bap. 6th Feb 1839
John bap. 14th Jan 1843
Bridget bap. 26th Feb 1844
There is no sign or Pat and William but there are several omissions from the records.
William married Margaret Rourke of Corroneary |
baptisms in parish records
Mary 14th Jul 1872
Elleanor 12th Dec 1875
Eugene 21st Feb 1877
Margaret 4th July 1878 - 1938
Ellen 19th May 1881
Catherine 16th Nov 1882
Rose 25th Feb 1884
Alice 24th Jan 1885 - 1984
John 3rd Jun 1887
not yet seen
Bridget, Theresa, Anne,
Family search gives Anne at 2nd Jul 1874 and Bridget on 15th Feb 1880, neither appear in the Cloone parish records.
Family Search gives 17th Sep 1872 for Mary and 15th Oct 1878 for Margaret. If these are in any way valid they must be the date when they were entered in the Civil Registration.
I have not seen any sign of Theresa.
Jim
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Attn: Jim I
Thanks for the further information on Owen Mitchell's family
Regards Robert Bartlett