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Title: BROWN, (nice common one!!!)
Post by: maz1 on Saturday 15 January 05 19:00 GMT (UK)
hi
i got a lovely common Brown surname search on the go.....
this is the areas they are in --- hoping for some help and some connections with someone

southwark
holborn
london/middlsex!!!!!
bethnal green
clerkenwell

heres hoping
maz ???
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: hlbradd on Wednesday 26 January 05 15:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Maz1

I have a Louisa Brown born c1841 in Bow Common, Middlesex.

She married an Edwin Richard Plant and went on to have several children (at least eight).  Mary, the oldest was born c1867 in Poplar.

Must confess I haven't explored this branch very much at moment (trying to track down who was Edwin's father at moment - and that's giving me enough problems  ???)

Still, if you think this Louisa might fit in with any of your family let me know and I'll see what else I've got on her.

Helen x
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Wednesday 26 January 05 16:22 GMT (UK)
hi helen
nice to hear from you
i havent got time now to look but will look later - fingers crossed eh
happy hunting
thanks
marian
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 30 January 05 19:03 GMT (UK)
1851 census...1565c    St Georges, Southwark, Surrey

5 Obelisk Buildings

Thomas Brown   head  35   (something like  Th???? gas furrier?)      Essex
Elizabeth  "        wife    36                                                           Devonshire
Emma       "        daur    14                                                                Middx
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 30 January 05 19:17 GMT (UK)
1851 census...1565c     St Georges, Southwark

5 Haddow Place

William Brown   head  27  journeyman bedstead maker    Surrey
Eliza        "         wife   24                                                Mitchum, Surrey
Eliza        "        daur   3                                                 Newington, Surrey
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same house as above

Stephen Brown   serv   15   errand boy                      Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 30 January 05 19:27 GMT (UK)
1851 census....1565c    St George, Southwark

23 Oxford Terrace

Thomas Brown   head  59                                   Stoke D'??????????, Surrey
Jane          "        wife   54                                                       Egham,     "
William      "         son   31  (u)                                             Chertsey,      "
Jane          "       daur   25    "                                                   "
Alfred        "         son   21    "                                                   "
Benjamin   "          "      16    "                                                   "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 30 January 05 20:05 GMT (UK)
1851c...1565c   St George, Southwark

4 Anns Place

Walter James Brown   head  35  chair maker    St Georges, Southwark
Sarah Hannah   "        wife    31                        Greenhithe, Kent
George Walter   "        son    11                         Bloomsbury, Middx
Charles Edward  "         "        5                                "
William James     "          "        3                         Lambeth, Surrey
Alice Sarah         "       daur      1                               "
Mary Taylor       mother in law 70                     Bloomsbury, Middx
Emily   "            sister in law   25                       Greenhithe, Kent
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same as above

William Brown  head   72   cabinet maker       not known     (blind)
Elizabeth  "      wife     55                               city of london
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4 Johns Place

Mary Brown  head  (wid)  48  strawbonnet maker      London   ????  ???????
Mary Ann  "   daur             19           "                           St Georges, Southwark
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Sunday 30 January 05 20:23 GMT (UK)
hi Bryant
thanks again --- you are good to me.....
this is the information i have so far on my Browns family........

George Brown b ?  married ??
children ...
James Brown b 1833 london middlesex, married 1857 saint matthew bethnal green, london to Sophia knight
i have James children but nothing else on George

all the best
marian

 
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 30 January 05 20:26 GMT (UK)
1851 census   1565c  Southwark

12 Barrons Place

James Brown  head  55  bricklayer   epsom, surrey
James    "         son   33  (u)  labourer  Clapham, Surrey
Eliza      "        wife    38                             "            "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 30 January 05 20:31 GMT (UK)
Marian

I'm just trawling through the 1851 southwark looking for Bryant's and variations and if I see any Brown's I will lob your way!
I'm actually several thousand pages in, so would have missed many Brown's?

I wont be looking for any specific Brown...just any Brown

hope they assist in your research

Regards
Bryant
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 30 January 05 20:34 GMT (UK)
1851

16 Herberts Buildings, Southwark
Elizabeth Brown    serv  (u)  18 Berks
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5 Chester Place

Charles Brown  head  39  chair maker            ?        ?
Sarah         "     wife    42  needle woman    Hatton Garden, Middx
Charles      "      son    7                                              ?           "
Richard       "       "       5                                              ?           "
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14 Tower Street
George Browne  head  22  engineer?  Lambeth, Surrey
Mary         "         wife   20                     Middx
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15 Charles Street
James Brown  head  27  Baker   Bloomsbury
Jane      "        wife    21              St Clements
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20 Joiner Street
George Brown   head   40  labourer   Chelsea
Elizabeth   "       wife     30                 Scotland
Stephen    "       son      14                  Lambeth
Elizabeth   "       daur     8                   Westminster
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 31 January 05 10:39 GMT (UK)
1851 Census

Hospital in London Road, St Georges, Southwark..Bridewell Hospital or something similar beginning with B and ending with well or so it appears?

Richard Brown  inmate  13  Middx
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Elizabeth Brown  inmate  15  Middx
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Howard? Brown  inmate  20  Middx
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Eliza Brown  inmate  15  Middx
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and possibly others that could read as Brown's?

not known if these are related in any way?
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 02 February 05 09:52 GMT (UK)
Marian

Changed my tactics...far to many Browns!
if I come across George with son James..you will be the first to know

Regards
Bryant
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Wednesday 02 February 05 15:26 GMT (UK)
hi Bryant
thanks for all your help so far well appreciated, yes i agree - Browns are driving me mad too.
good luck with your searching
bye for now
take care
marian
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 06 February 05 18:29 GMT (UK)
keeps it near the top!

1851 Bermondsey

Ducketts Cottage, Great George Street
Edward Brown  51  carman           Horton, Worcestershire
Ann          "        47                        Wallingford, Berks
John         "        18 carman           Bermondsey, Surrey
George    "         15 errand boy             "
Harriett    "         7                                 "
Mariah     "          3                                 "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Sunday 06 February 05 20:30 GMT (UK)
thanks Bryant
LOL ---- yeh i know wot you mean, ill pop that one in the Browns folder
 ;D
best wishes
Marian
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 08 February 05 09:10 GMT (UK)
that time again!

1851 census...Bermondsey

2 Stephen Street
Samuel Brown  head  34  Silk Hatter (ind)     Calcutta, E Indies
Eliza         "       wife    31                                Worcester
Charles    "         son   6                                  Lambeth, Surrey
Clara        "        daur   4                               Bermondsey,   "
George     "         son    9 months                           "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 08 February 05 19:58 GMT (UK)
1851 census, Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey

3 Paragon Place
John Brown  head  64  warehouseman        Unknown
Hannah "      wife   66                                 St Edmonds, Norwich
Thomas "       son   39  (widr) carman (unemployed) St Olave, Southwark
Ann       "  grandaughter 15                           Bermondsey
Thomas "  grandson 14  carter                          "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 09 February 05 15:01 GMT (UK)
1851 census...1580b...St Giles, Camberwell

1 Acocks? Cottage (definitely begins with A!)

John Brown  head  44  horse keeper   Herts
Elizabeth "   wife    37                          Camberwell
John        "    son     12 (or older)                 "
George    "      "       12 (could be a twin with above?) Camberwell
James     "       "         9                                                       "
Sarah      "    daur     6                                                        "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 10:21 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Camberwell...1580c

8 George Street

George Brown  37  labourer  Dorking, Surrey
Susannah  "      34                 Bath, Somerset
James        "       7                 Camberwell, Surrey
George      "        4                          "
Eliza           "       2                          "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 11:03 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Giles, Camberwell

2 Mornington Place

Richard Brown, head, (u) 36 clerk of land & ??? tax, income from property, born. Hackney, Middlesex
Harriote Crossweller Brown, sister, (wid), 45, fundholder, Hackney
Harriote Fanny Crossweller, daur, 9,                 Kennington, Surrey
Eliza Billinger, serv, 19, house servant,             Clapham, Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 11:20 GMT (UK)
It appears that a lot of people have an interest in the name of Brown!

1851 census...St Giles, Camberwell

6 Mornington Place
Louisa Browne, head, (wid), 36, widow of commander J.B.Browne (Navy) Calcutta, E.Indies
Sophia Browne, daur, ?, scholar, Portsmouth, Hants
Frederick  "         son, 8,      "             "               "
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8 Mornington Place
Ebenezer Charles Brown, head, (u), 25, studying for the law, Hammersmith
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 12:40 GMT (UK)
1851 census....1580c...St Giles, Camberwell

11 County Terrace
William Brown  head  68  Tanner employing 7   Stamford, Lincolnshire
Hannah   "        wife   57                                    London
M????   Fry    sister in law 46 annuitant                  "
Mary Skerritt  serv       30 house servant           Lynn, Norfolk
Charlotte Harris serv    16    "       "                    Gravesend, Kent
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2 County Grove
Maria Brown  head (wid)  46  annuitant    Lambeth       (deaf)
Eliza      "      sister  (u)     36       "                 "
Mary Hilsden  serv   (u)     26  servant       Hartford
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Union Work House, St Giles, Camberwell
George Brown  pauper  (widr) 48  gas fitter              ? (none stated?)
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 16:26 GMT (UK)
1851 census...1582....Camberwell

35 Thomas Street
Joseph Brown  head  51 (widr)    gardener     Lambeth, Surrey
Hannah    "      daur    16                                 Camberwell, Surrey
Daniel      "       son      10                                        "
Moses      "         "         3                            St Marys, Newington, Surrey 
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4 Mayo's Buildings St (west)..Camberwell, St George, Lambeth

James Brown  head  67  gardener             Boxford, Suffolk
Elizabeth  "     wife    40                             Shadwell, Middx
Louisa      "     daur    17 servant (out of place)  Camberwell, Surrey
Edward    "       son    10                                           "
Henry       "         "        6                                           "
Robert      "         "        3                                           "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 19:39 GMT (UK)
1851 census...1582...Camberwell, Surrey

1 New Church Row

Ann Brown  (mar) wife  58 Coffee Dealer           Bucks
Ellen Eliza Brown, daur, 24, needle woman, St Mary at the Hill, City of London
Timothy F    "         son   21   milkman                      "                 "
Sollinger      "          "       5                              Kennington, Surrey
Charles   James   grandson  21                       Westminster

*the enumerator appears to have got the son & grandson the wrong way round?
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 20:04 GMT (UK)
1851 census..Camberwell..1582

3 Wells Street

George William Brown  head  41  foreman Tailor   St Georges in the east
Ann                     "        wife    31                            Paddington, Middx
Alfred George      "        son    15 Tailor at home     Pimlico, Middx
Charles Edward Walton Brown, son, 10 "    "         Westminster
Lydia Jane Brown        daur     4                                    "
Samuel          "             son       2                                   "
Fredrick         "                "        5 months                       "
William           "          FATHER    70   Tailor              Stoughton, Sussex
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 20:28 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Camberwell

3 Peckham Place

Susannah Maria Brown  (wid)  head  75  annuitant    Gravesend, Kent
Alcina  Stevens                        daur    41                     Shoreditch, Middx
John    Stevens                son in law   32 Dancing Master   Lambeth, Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 14 February 05 19:25 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Camberwell St Georges

4 Gown Terrace
Robert Brown  head  34  storeman hatter   Bermondsey, Surrey
Jessica    "       wife    38                               Rotherithe,       "
William     "       son    8                                 Southwark, St George
Jessica    "        daur   6                                 "                       "
Annie       "         "       4                                 Newington, Surrey
Elizabeth Jowell   visitor  (wid)  50 no occupation  Camberwell, Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 14 February 05 19:43 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Camberwell, St George...1582c

2 Acre Place
Francis Brown  head  41  out of employ   St Saviours, Southwark
Eliza        "       wife    43  ironer                Cripplegate (I think thats Middlesex)
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 14 February 05 20:03 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Camberwell, St Georges  ..1582c

8 Dalton Row

Jane Brown  wife  (mar)  53  charwoman   Cardiganshire
Hannah  "     daur            22  house servant  Plaistow, Essex
Mary       "        "               13                           Camberwell, Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 14 February 05 20:23 GMT (UK)
1851 census..Camberwell, St George...1582c

3 Ann? Street

Edward Brown  head  46 Traveller               Hammersmith, Middlesex
Mary         "       wife    38                             Deptford, Kent
Mary         "       daur   18  seamstress         Camberwell, Surrey
Edward     "        son     4                                     "
William      "          "        3                                     "
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Please note.....from the total of lookers at this post I can see that Brown is a popular name of interest to more than a few of you (but it isn't one of mine) I contribute more than a few Brown's to this page from the 1851 census but it isn't comprehensive...I have left many behind!
Hopefully yours will be there, but if it isn't!

Regards
Bryant
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 14 February 05 21:15 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Camberwell, St Georges  ...1582c

4 Cobury Road
John Brown   head  36  clerk in provision  ?????     Prescott, Lancs
Mary     "       wife    32                                                 "         "
John G   "      son     2                                              Newington, Surrey
Margaret A " daur    2 months                                        "              "
Richard H Tyre  nephew 21    "        "         "            Prescott, Lancs
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Neate Street
Thomas Brown  head  26  cowkeeper          Bermondsey, Surrey
Mary        "         wife   29                             Ockley, Surrey
Sarah A    "       daur    4                               Camberwell, Surrey
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28 Neate Street
James Brown  head  30  painter & glazier      Camberwell, Surrey
Elizabeth  "     wife    25  dressmaker                   "
Elizabeth  "     daur    2 months                            "
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4 Neate Street
Mary E Brown  lodger  (wid)  56  assistant laundress      Edmonton, Essex
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Trafalgar Road
George Brown  serv  (u)  24  gen serv         Cambridge
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 16 February 05 19:35 GMT (UK)
1851 census....St George, Camberwell....1582c

2 Bullens Terrace
Sarah Brown   serv  14  servant   Camberwell
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23 Great Sussex Place
Edward Brown  head   32  cowkeeper    Bermondsey, Surrey
Matilda     "       wife     31                       Goodham, Kent
William E   "       son     15                       Camberwell, Surrey
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42 Windsor Grove
Martha Brown   head  (u)  39   Proprietor of houses     Bermondsey, Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 17 February 05 08:36 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Paul, Deptford, Kent

New Cross "N Side"

Alfred Brown   head   27   Beer Seller      Eltham, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 17 February 05 21:54 GMT (UK)
1851 census....St Paul, Deptford, Kent...1584a

1 Amersham Terrace
Caroline L Brown   head  (w)  36  fundholder   Southwark, Surrey
Emma Day           sister    (u)   27         "           London, Middx
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7 Amersham Terrace
Mary Brown   serv  (u)  20   house servant    Ledbury, Hereford
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Cold Blow Farm
William Brown  head   46  Market gardener employing 18 men 1 boy & 6 women   Crodon, Surrey
Harriet Brown  wife      43
Louis        "    brother   40 foreman market garden        Croydon, Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 19 February 05 09:49 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Paul, Deptford, Kent...1584b

King Street, New Town

David Brown   head  (u)   Tea Dealer    Scotland
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1 Mile Street

Henry Stead        head   44  stonemason   Greenwich, Kent
Sarah A  "            wife     44                               "
Ann Elizabeth "    niece    16                        Middlesex
JOHN BROWN   Father in law  82  ????????? ? Boatswain    Greenwich, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 19 February 05 10:48 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Paul, Deptford, Kent

2 Cannon Street
Thomas Brown  lodger   36  lab   Ireland
Mary          "       wife      30             "
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20 Freindly Street
William Brown   head   60   shipwright   Ireland
Ann          "        wife     60                         "
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26 Freindly Street
Mary Brown   head   57 (w)   nurse   Bromly, Kent
Emma   "        daur    17     servant    Cambridgeshire
Eliza     "          "        13                      Epping, Essex
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1 & 2 Mill Lane
Ann Brown   22 lodger (u)   servant   Kingston, Surrey
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as above
Elizabeth Brown  52 lodger (u)  servant   Kingston, Surrey
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as above
George Brown  34 lodger (u)  lab    Chalk Hill, Norwich
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4 Mill Lane
John Brown  lodger  (widr) 28  lab   Surrey
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2 Gutters Buildings
Patrick Brown   lodger  26  bricklayers labourer    Ireland
Johanna  "        wife      21 employed in gardens       "
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1 Porters Rents
Margaret Brown   head  (w)  65  annuitant    Southwark, Surrey
George D Staniland  grandson  10                  Deptford, Kent
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9 Nelson Street
Sarah Brown  head  73  supported by alms   Icklow, Kent
Mary Foster  sister   54  Pew opener                   "      "
Martha King   serv    15   servant                   Deptford, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 19 February 05 15:38 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Paul, Deptford...1584b

24 Knotts Terrace
Charles Brown  boarder  (u)  24  railway labourer    Deptford, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Saturday 19 February 05 22:15 GMT (UK)
hi Bryant
just realised ive not thanked you for all you are doing for a long time......
so.....
THANKS VERY  MUCH, its all very much appreciated.
Did anything come of the link i gave you for the Bryants???
all the best
Marian
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 20 February 05 04:39 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Deptford  1584c

33 Florence Road
Catherine Brown  servt  (widow)  59  gen servant    Deptford, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 20 February 05 05:24 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Deptford...1584c

5 Giffin Street
Bridget Brown  (u)  22  laundress    Kent
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2 Effingham? Place
James Brown  head  65  blacksmith    Padding, Middx
Elizabeth  "     wife    63                       Deptford, Kent
Rebecca? "      daur   35                            "
Charles    "       son    27  labourer            "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 20 February 05 08:50 GMT (UK)
1851 census....St Pauls, Deptford...1584d

11 Mary Anns Buildings
Mary Brown  lodger  31 stay? worker  Greenwich, Kent
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17 Mary Anns Buildings
James Brown  lodger  (u)  60  shipwright    Scotland
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High Street
Agnes Brown  head  (widow)   70  printer    Scotland
Elizabeth  "     daur      (u)        34 stationer   Deptford
Susannah  "       "         (u)        27      "                "
John         "       son      (u)        32  type founder  "
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High Street
Susan Brown  serv   19   gen servant   Hoo, Kent
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High Street
Eliza Brown  serv  17  gen servant    Deptford
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High Street
William Beloved  head  46  Master Butcher    Marylebone, Middx
Sarah        "        wife    42                             St Albans, Hertfordshire
Elizabeth Brown  sister in law  30                  Deptford, Kent
+ 6 Wellbeloved children aged from 2 to 16 as well as 2 servants
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 20 February 05 09:27 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Pauls, Deptford, Kent   1584d

High Street
Robert Brown  head  28  shipwright     Deptford, Kent
Rosa M    "       wife    27                            "
Rosa M    "       daur   5                         Poplar, Middx
Emily E    "          "      3                         Deptford, Kent
Helen      "          "       1                             "
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Church Street (west)
John Brown   head   23  schoolmaster    Middlesex
Susan   "       wife     27                           Mullon?, Suffolk
Mary Smith, mother in law   53  annuitant   Holkham, Norfolk
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Trinity Green, Church Street (west)
James Brown  head  (widower) 72  master mariner   Yorkshire
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 20 February 05 09:56 GMT (UK)
Marian
I thought I had him for a moment, but alas

1851 census...St Paul, Deptford

5 John Street
George Brown  head 48  shipwright   Deptford, Kent
Charlotte  "      wife   48                         "
James       "       son   27 (u) news vender  Dartford, Kent
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6 Hood Street
William Brown  head  40  engine driver   Deptford, Kent
Sarah      "       wife    40                              "
William    "        son     12                             "
Andrew   "         "        10                             "
John        "         "        7                               "
James     "         "         5                               "
Joseph    "         "         3                               "
Thomas   "         "         11 months                "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 20 February 05 11:03 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Paul, Deptford...1584d

Lime Street
Elizabeth Brown  head  (wid)  65                     Deptford
John           "         son              26 dustman          "
James        "           "                 18         "              "
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Crossfield Lane
Henry Brown   lodger   (widr)  37  blacksmith            Greenwich, Kent
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1 Seymour Street
John Hills   head  38  engine driver   Chatham, Kent
Elizabeth " wife   32                          Deptford
SUSAN BROWN sister in law 27 (u)         "
+ 3 Hill boys
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10 Hyde Street
Elizabeth Brown  head  (w)  78                     Shoreditch, Middx
Martha        "        daur  (u)   35 dressmaker  Deptford, Kent
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also at 10 Hyde Street 
James Brown  head  33  shipwright   Deptford, Kent
Agnes     "       wife    29                          "
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Ash Cottage, Edwards Street
James Brown  head  45  market gardener (?? acres) employing 30 labs   Croydon, Surrey     
Harriet Brown  wife  45            Peckham
Rachel     "       daur  19           Croydon
George    "        son   17                "
John Ash?  son in law 20         Deptford
Harriet Ash daur in law 19            "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 20 February 05 20:55 GMT (UK)
1851 census...st paul, deptford...1584e

new king street
elizabeth brown  serv  (u)  43  st paul, deptford
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16 brunswick square
thomas brown  (m) 26  labourer    Kerry, Ireland
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74 broomfield
william brown  head  36  shipwright  deptford, kent
mary a     "       wife    42                         "
mary a     "       daur     9                         "
sarah       "         "         7                         "
henrietta  "        "          2                        "
william      "       son      5 months             "
james       "         "        5 months             "
william seabrook  visitor  83 pensioner  ?     ?        Deptford, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 20 February 05 21:44 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Paul, Deptford...1584e

Evelyn Brown  head  (widr)  48  firewood cutter   Deptford
William     "      son                20         "        "              "
Lucille?     "     daur                17 house keeper           "
Celia        "        "                   15                                 "
Martha Lipcomb (u) servant   31 house servant    London
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91 Evelyn Street
Harriet Brown                  wife  41 (mar)  mariners wife    Portsea, Hants
Henrietta Georgiana "      daur  15                                    Brighton, Sussex
Thomas Montague    "      son   11                                    Greenwich, Kent
Harriet Brown                   daur   2                                           "
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8 Roll Square (or Street?)
Charles Brown  lodger  head  23  labourer  Southampton, Hants
Charlotte   "                  wife    23                  Deptford, Kent
Mary          "                  daur   10 months          "
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14 Blackhorse Square
Robert Brown  head  30  coal whipper?  Lewisham, Kent
Mary       "        wife    29                         Waltham Abbey, Essex
Robert    "        son     8                           Deptford
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 21 February 05 08:35 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Pauls, Deptford...1584e

12 Blackhorse Square (east)
John Brown  head  33                Greenwich, Kent
Margaret "    wife   26                Deptford,      "
John        "     son     6                    "
Sarah      "    daur     2                    "
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2 Bridge Place
William E Browne  head  74  superanuated biscuit baker    St Georges east, Middx
Lucy            "         wife   75                                                 Gravesend, Kent
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2 Robinsons Terrace
James Harvey  head  28  wood lab   Rotherhithe, Surrey
Ellen      "         wife    23                         "
plus 3 children                                               
MARY BROWN neice    14                         "
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14 Robinsons Terrace
John Brown    head      28       firewood chopper         Rotherhithe, Surrey
Ann       "            wife   23                                                   "
John      "         son        6                                             Stepney, Middx
Mary A   "        daur        2                                            Rotherhithe, Surrey
Thomas  "        son         2 weeks                                 Deptford, Kent
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7 Jones? Terrace
William Brown  head, 37  foreman of animal charcoal works ?   Kings Malden, Hertford
Eliza         "      wife    37                             Barbican, London
George A  "       son    9                               Deptford, Kent
Martha     "      daur    6                                      "
Richard     "       son     3                                     "
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145 Lower Road
Susan Brown  lodger  (wid)  75         Norwich, Norfolk
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15 Grove Lane
Mary A Brown  lodger (u)  30       Deptford
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36 Grove Lane
Mary A Brown   wife  40  blacksmiths wife     Winchester, Hants
William     "        son   14                                Deptford
Mary A      "       daur   10                                     "
Charles    "        son    8                                       "
Thomas     "         "       6                                       "
Sophia      "       daur    1                                       "
Mary Wh??? (White?) mother in law  67        Winchester, Hants
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6 Cottage Place
John Brown  head  37  lab    Deptford, Kent
John     "    brother  34   "            "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 21 February 05 09:35 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Paul, Deptford...1584e

Dudman Court, Grove Street

Simon Callagan  head  33  lab                                      Ireland
Catherine  "       wife    36                                                 "
Daniel        "       son      7                                                 "
William       "          "       7                                                 "
Mary          "      daur       2                                            Deptford, Kent
HANNAH BROWN mother in law (wid) 70    formerly a farmers wife   Ireland
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Her Majesties Victually Office
John Brown   head   55  practising Surgeon & medical store keeper  Scotland
Eliza     "       wife      43                                                                      Ireland
John W D "    son      33 (u) Surgeon, Royal college of surgeons         Wales
Charles William Brown  son  17                                           Woolwich, Kent
George G Brown           son   11                                            Deptford,    "
Catherine Shea     servant   21                                                   Ireland
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Her Majesties Victually Yard
Charles Brown  head  51  clerk of the works                            SCOTLAND
Emily?       "       wife    48                                               Westerham, Kent
????          "      daur     20                                                 Hertfordshire
Alfred       "        son     18  carpenters apprentice                      "
George     "          "        16       clerk                                            "
Walter      "          "        13                                                  Antrim, Ireland
Edward     "         "         12                                                 Sussex
Horace      "         "         10                                                     "
William      "         "         9                                                        "
James       "          "         6                                                    Deptford, Kent
John         "          "         3                                                              "
Elizabeth Field   mother in law  (wid) 71                             Westerham, Kent
Alexander Brown    visitor   48  (mar)                                 Eastbourne, Sussex
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 21 February 05 18:14 GMT (UK)
1851 census....St Nicholas, Deptford...1585a

1 Collier Street
William Rose   head  60  fisherman         Lambeth, Surrey
Ann         "      wife    32                          Deptford, Kent
Sarah      "      daur    22 needlewoman       "          "
Jane        "        "       20                               "          "
BENJAMIN BROWN lodger 12                        "          "
WILLIAM BROWN        "      3                    Woolwich, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 21 February 05 20:01 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Nicholas, Deptford....1585a

93 New Street
Joseph Brown  head  66  shipwright   Deptford, Kent
Edmond?  "       son    26                           "
Alfred?      "        "       19 ropemaker         "
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27 New Street
Henry Brown  lodger (u) 30  Sawyer      Deptford, Kent
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3 Crown Court
John Brown  69 (mar)  shipwright     Deptford
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French Fields
Elizabeth Brown  head  41   (wid)                          Shipton Mallet
Thomas       "        son    10                                     Greenwich, Kent
William         "         "       7                                       Deptford, Kent
Henry ??wey   visitor      43 carpenter?                 Birmingham, Warwickshire
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 21 February 05 20:37 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Nicholas, Deptford...1585a

??? Yard
James Brown  head  78  carpenter inspector   Scotland
Elizabeth  "     wife    55                                   Somerset
Mary Whitehead visitor 70                                    "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 February 05 16:55 GMT (UK)
1851 census......St Nicholas, Deptford, Kent....1585b

4 Cyan? Street
Mary Brown   head  (wid)  60                             Ireland
Ellen     "       daur      (u)   20  dressmaker        Deptford, Kent
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22 Cyan? Street
John Brown   (u)  20  wood cutter              Walworth?, Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 February 05 17:06 GMT (UK)
1851 census   St Nicholas, Kent

81 Albert Street
George Brown   lodger  (u)  labourer    ???, Suffolk
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 February 05 17:32 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Nicholas, Deptford

2 Church Street
Robert Brown  head  53  Parish Clerk of St Nicholas    Eails? Colue?, Essex
Sarah       "      wife   52                                               Tolsbury, Essex
Mary ???   "     daur   24  dressmaker                           Messing, Essex
Sarah       "        "      22                                                      "          "
Robert      "       son   16  errand boy                            Deptford, Kent
Mary Stewart  lodger 66   annuitant                                 "           "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 February 05 17:42 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Nicholas

81 Old King Street
George Brown  head  (mar)  60  ???    ???     Lewisham, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 February 05 18:31 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Greenwich, Kent....1586a

3 Fullers Rents
Ellenor Brown   wife  22  watermans wife    Chadwell, Essex
Charles J   "       son   3                                 Greenwich, Kent
Sarah E     "         "    18 months                       "                "
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Brewhouse Lane
George Brown  head   24   waterman        Greenwich, Kent
Elizabeth   "      wife    23                                "
Sarah        "      daur     2                                 "
Albine        "        "         9 months                   "
John          " Father (widr) 63  waterman         "
Susan       "     sister    15                                 "
Mary Hudson   visitor   12                                 "
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Garden Stairs?
Harriet Brown   head  (wid) 51 washerwoman & mangler   Greenwich
Isaac        "        son            15 waterman apprentice              "
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9 Garden Stairs?
Margaret Brown  wife  62  Greenwich pensioners wife    St Georges, Middlesex
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Church Street
John Brown  lodger  32  waterman   Greenwich
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 February 05 18:45 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Greenwich, Kent...1586a

1 Billingsgate Street
James Brown  head  53  bricklayers lab   Greenwich
Elizabeth  "     wife    53                                 "
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25 Collman Street
Margaret Brown  head  39 (wid)  laundress     Isle of Man  (looks like)
William        "       son    10                                Greenwich
Mary           "       daur     1 month                         "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 February 05 18:58 GMT (UK)
1851 census...St Alphages, Greenwich

5 Collman Street
Frederick Brown   Nursechild  12  scholar  pauper   Greenwich
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 01 March 05 09:08 GMT (UK)
1851 census....Greenwich....1586

Thames Street Gas Works, Greenwich
James Brown  servant  (mar) 37  labourer      Lewisham, Kent
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22 Little Thames Street
Henry Brown  head  43  fisherman   Wilton, Suffolk
Lucy      "        wife   39                     Greenwich, Kent
Lucy      "        daur   13                         "
William  "         son   8                            "
Joseph  "           "     5                             "
George "           "      3                            "
John      "          "      1                              "
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5 Charles Street
William Cape  head  39  grocer & cheesemonger   Rotherhithe
Elizabeth "     wife    38                                          Newberry, Berks
Mary Ann "     daur   12                                          Greenwich, Kent
Charles   "      son     4                                                 "
ELIZABETH BROWN  Mother (wid) 80                      Newberry, Berks
Emily Bassett  niece   16                                         Rotherhithe 
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 01 March 05 09:54 GMT (UK)
1851  Greenwich, Kent

15 Charles Street
Henry Brown  head  34 butcher employing 1 man    Portsea, Hampshire
Mary      "       wife    28                                             Dover, Kent
Mary      "       daur    5                                              Greenwich
Henry     "       son     2                                              Deptford, Kent
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3 Skinners Court, Charles Street (lodging house)
Thomas Brown  (u) 28  coal porter  Greenwich
Jane Jones (mar)    72  pauper        Staffordshire
Sarah Brown (wid)  67 annuitant     Suffolk

relationship of above if any are not noted
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7 Skinners Court (lodging house)
Jane Brown  52 (mar)                                Ratcliff
James  "        20   corn labourer                   "
Thomas "      15       "        "                          "
Sarah    "       14  scholar                              "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 01 March 05 10:26 GMT (UK)
1851 Greenwich

3 Bridge Street
Margaret Brown  head (mar) 56  needle woman  Yarmouth
Charlotte    "       daur           11                            London
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4 Bridge Street
James Brown  head  27  wine cooper   Greenwich
Ann       "        wife    21                        Deptford
Elizabeth "      daur    1                         Greenwich
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30 Bridge Street
Richard Brown  head  26  ? & Bricklayer   Greenwich
Hannah    "       wife   22                           Gloucestershire
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28 Lamb Lane
Amelia Brown  servant  17  gen serv   Greenwich
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Lamb Lane
James Brown  head  31  costermonger   Tolkin? Coast Rd
A ????   "        wife    35                           Bally ?ooly, Ireland
William  "        son     3                             Greenwich, Kent
Johanna "       daur    1                                 "
+ 9 lodgers
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 01 March 05 12:23 GMT (UK)
1851 Greenwich

(271) Clive Place
James Raymant  head  33  Tailor   Greenwich
Th????s    "         wife   37                    "
William     "          son   11                     "
Thomas   "           son   4                       "
James      "           son   2                      "
Henry       "          son    4 months         "
JOHN BROWN       son   11                    "
William   "            son     8                     "

don't ask, I haven't a clue!...perhaps they are all Browns as the enumerator who had big bold handwriting couldn't fit Brown in after James Raymant & used the shortest name to put Brown in..but what about the ages! Twins?
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Roan Street
Elizabeth Brown  head  (mar) 54                            Bath, Somerset
Joseph        "       son              22  labourer             Gloucester
James         "         "                 18                                  "
William        "         "                 13                                  "
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Roan Street
Hannah Brown  head  (u) 26 Tailoress     Pool, Dorsetshire
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Roan Street
living with 2 women aged 24 & 23!
Thomas Brown (u) 25  cooper  night visitor   Deptford
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Roan Street
living with a young woman and her 1 yr old child
Charles Brown (u) 22  labourer  night visitor   St Lukes, London
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WHAT IS A NIGHT VISITOR :D
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Roan Street
Elizabeth Brown  head (wid)  83   Birmingham
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165 Union Street
James Brown  head  37  gas works labourer   Lewisham, Kent
Elizabeth  "     wife   30                                         "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 01 March 05 12:43 GMT (UK)
1851 Greenwich, Kent

6 Pearson Street
John Brown  head  36  wine cooper   Greenwich
Sophia  "      wife    38                         Deptford
John W  "      son    12                        Greenwich
Henry C "       "        7                               "
Alfred A "       "        4                                "
Emma L?      daur    1                                "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 08 March 05 11:53 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Greenwich, Kent...HO107/1586/187 page 6

(26) Roan Street
William Brown  head  41  labourer         St Luke, Middx
Sarah      "       wife    36                        Greenwich, Kent
Mary        "       daur     3                             "
Sarah      "          "        1                             "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Tuesday 08 March 05 15:13 GMT (UK)
hi Bryant
once again i feel i must thank you for all your hard work on my behalf - its well appreciated
i think i will have to look up a "night visitor"  sounds rather strange!!!!

ive not been doing as much as i would have liked to on the Brown front at the moment - as been caught up with another side of the family --
- found new live cousins!!!

thanks again
hope your hunting is going well
all the best
marian
xx
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 08 March 05 21:43 GMT (UK)
1851 census...Greenwich...1586

(19) Greenwich Road
Isabella Brown  (wid)  head  40  Tobaccanist   Rochester, Kent
Isabella     "                daur    13                       Greenwich, Kent
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(49) Greenwich Road
Charlotte Brown  (wid)  51  Fruiterer       London, Middx
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8 Chapel Place
Henry Brown  head  29  Gentlemans coachman   Clapham, Surrey
Susannah "    wife    25                                         Harrow, Middx
Mary Ann  "    daur     9                                         Greenwich, Kent
William      "    son      7                                               "
Henry       "      "         6                                               "
George     "      "         3                                               "
Sarah        "    daur     1                                              "
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(12) Church Field
Ann McGee, wife, (mar), 56, Needlewoman pensioners wife, Westminster, Middx
ELIZABETH A BROWN  daur  (u)  14 Needlewoman                Eltham, Kent
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(42) Straights Mouth
Mary Brown  head  (wid)  66 Schoolmistress  Bloomsbury, Middlesex
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3 Straights Mouth
Ann Brown  head (mar)  86  pauper formerly laundress,  Bermuda, British subject
Ann Henry  daur  (mar)  45  Bakers? wife & pauper          London
Ann Henry grandaughter 21  Needlewoman                        "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 March 05 21:38 GMT (UK)
1851 census St Saviours, Surrey

13 New Park Street
William Brown  head  31  drayman        Oxon
Sarah       "      wife    32                        Christchurch, Surrey
Mary Ann  "      daur   6                                "
Sarah       "        "       3                                "
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3 New Park Street
James Brown  head  24  printer compositor        Camberwell, Surrey
Louisa     "       wife   23                                      St Georges      "
Louisa     "      daur    3 months                           St Saviours     "
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5 New Park Street
George Brown  head  28   labourer   Northstoke, Oxon
Rachel      "       wife    25                   St Saviours
Elizabeth  "       daur   3                            "
Martha     "          "      2 months               "
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3 Tuns Court
John Brown   17  apprentice tailor              London
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1 Falcon Court
Abraham Brown    brother    26 (u)  gravedigger & labourer   Bethnal Green
(brother of Martha Savage aged 49 it appears)
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255 High Street
Ambrose Brown  head  26  master tailor (employing 6 men)  Stepney, Middx
Harriet       "        wife   33?                                                     Clapham, Surrey
Ambrose    "        son     1                                                        Southwark
Mary Ann Jeft?  visitor  21                                                        Clapham
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17 Church Yard (St Saviours)
William Brown  head  51  wax chandler (employing 13 others)  Southwark
Frances?  "       wife   49                                                             Horsham
Samuel     "        son   18  clerk to wax chandler                         Southwark
plus 1 servant
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18 Cures College
Susanna Brown  head  (wid)  71  almswoman    NK    (not known)
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Golden Lion, Stoney Street
Thomas Brown  17  porter    Penshurst, Kent
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19 Stoney Street
Isabella Brown  neice  7   maidstone, kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 24 March 05 22:35 GMT (UK)
1851 Census..............St Saviours, Southwark

20 Bridge Street
Richard Brook        head       a Tallow Chandler employing 27 men & 6 boys
Sarah Ann Brook   wife  39      Marylebone
+ lots of Brook children
Sarah's mother is there.....
Elizabeth Ann Brown   (widow)  66  St Georges, Middlesex
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5 Anchor Terrace, Bridge Street
Eliza Brown    serv  (u)  19?   servant    Holborn, Middx
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15 Bridge Street
Thomas Brown   head  32   carman  (master employing 3 men)  Lenham?, Kent
Samuel       "         ?      34   clerk to carman                                     "           "
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4 Ewerson Place
Elizabeth Brown   wife  39  charwoman                Horton, Bucks
Elizabeth Finch     daur  23  shoe binder               Paddington, Middx
Richard Finch        son    27  tutor at school          Lambeth
Mary A     "            daur  3 months                        St Saviours
Samuel    "            son   18                                   Paddington

no idea! thats just as it is
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Friday 25 March 05 09:12 GMT (UK)
1851 census.....St Saviours, Southwark

18 Castle Street
Emily Brown   (mar)  37  dressmaker     Beckingham (Beckenham), Kent
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49 Castle Street
Thomas Brown   head  29   brewers fermenter?               Barking, Essex
Amelia       "       wife    23                                                       "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: alan cutts on Sunday 27 March 05 08:34 BST (UK)
Hi
I have a more common one for everyone
John and gertrude Brown of
Slaithwaite/marsden/huddersfield/Yorkshire.
early 1900's
anyone accept the challenge?????
regards Alan
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 05 April 05 19:50 BST (UK)
Just to let you know that I will be continuing finding a few BROWN'S in S.E London for you out there in 1851..................just taking time off from being boggle eyed.

Bryant
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Wednesday 06 April 05 08:20 BST (UK)
hi Bryant
no hurry on my behalf, as i too am slowing down a bit - you reminded me must get my eyes tested!!!
thanks for all your help so far - still trawling through it all, nothing pieced together as yet, but theres still hope
hope you are well
take care
all the best
marian
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: goggy on Friday 06 May 05 13:32 BST (UK)
Well Maz,this may give your feelings a boost if not your hunt!
Richard Brown,servant of the C.O, 11th Hussars,survivor of the Charge of the Light Brigade.1854.
Described as"Handsome,honest,a model soldier,never in the defaulters book."
Feel better now?
Chest full of "gongs",Alma,Balaklava,Inkerman,Sevastopol,still partying 21 years later!
                              Cheers,Goggy.
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Friday 06 May 05 15:36 BST (UK)
hi Goggy
thanks for that, Ive not come across a Richard before "yet", i shall put it with my notes and keep on ploughing through them all.
It would be nice to have a man with a chest full of medals.
all the best
maz
 8)
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Friday 20 May 05 14:49 BST (UK)
1851................HO107/1558(B)
27 Red Cross Street, St Saviours, Southwark
Sarah Brown  visitor  64?  charwoman   ???, Surrey
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24 Red Cross Street, St Saviours, Southwark
John Worrell  head  62  marine store ???         Buckinghamshire?
Jane      "       wife   57                                      Hornsey, London, Middx
Richard Brown son in law  38 warehouseman  Southwark, St George
Mary Anne "    daur 37                                      Marylebone, Middlesex
Richard J    "  gr son 10                                     St Dunstan,       "
Jane E       "  gr daur 8                                      Newington, Surrey
Sarah Ann "   "     "   6                                      St Saviours, Southwark
Alfred        "  gr son   4                                             "
Edward     "   "    "     2                                             "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Friday 20 May 05 15:17 BST (UK)
1851
17 Red Cross Street, St Saviours, Southwark
Richard Brown  visitor  (mar) 36  sea porter?   Lambeth
Elizabeth  "          "          "     35 charwoman   Oxfordshire
George     "          "                 18 stationer       Newington, Surrey
Lidia M A   "          "                 8  scholar           St Saviours
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Friday 20 May 05 15:48 BST (UK)
1851
165 Union Street, St Saviours, Surrey
Mary Brown  servt  (unm) 23 general servant  Guildford, Surrey
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 May 05 08:47 BST (UK)
1851
28 Bankside, St Saviours, Southwark
John Brown  head 33 lab at copper works   Suffolk
Martha  "      wife  38                                    Essex
David Baine  nephew 6                                 Hertfordshire
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3 Pond Yard, Bankside, St Saviours, Southwark
George Brown  head   39 (widr) stone merchant   Yorkshire
Sarah       "      sister   27 (unm)  house keeper           "
Henry Booth  servant  13  stone maker                  Kingsland
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Saturday 21 May 05 09:35 BST (UK)
hi Bryant
welcome back
thanks yet again for all the info you are sending me - I have just started to look properly at all the Brown information and am determined to sort something out. I am sending off for some certificates next week so that should make life a little easier.
hope your research is going well
all the best
marian
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 May 05 09:37 BST (UK)
1851
51 Holland Street, St Saviour, Surrey
Hannah Mathew  head  63 (wid) wheelwright ( ???)     Tonbridge, Kent
Hannah Brown     (mar) 23 (assume daur)                     Lambeth, Surrey
Alexander Brown son in law 22 (mar) iron plate worker Kent Road
Alexander    "       son     2                                              St Saviour
John Francis "         "       11 months                                      "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 May 05 10:17 BST (UK)
1851
58 Great Guildford Street, St Saviour, Southwark
John Brown  head  25 silk weaver   Lambeth, Surrey
Mary    "       wife    23                     Southwark,  "
John    "        son    4                             "
Alice     "       daur   1                             "
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112 Great Guildford Street, St Saviour, Southwark
Catherine Browne  visitor  54 (unm) annuitant    Middlesex

*visiting the Chandler family
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 May 05 13:45 BST (UK)
1851
5 Loar Street, St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey
John Browne  head  35  gen lab             Lambeth, Surrey
Sarah    "       wife    34                           Southwark  "
George  "       son     5                                  "
Francis   "         "       2                                  "
John      "         "        5 months                     "
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13 Loar Street, St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey
John Browne  head  49  gen lab           Suffolk
Mary     "        wife    51                             "     Bingay?
William Cardle? visitor  21                     Norfolk
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 May 05 14:07 BST (UK)
1851
60 Union Street, St Saviour, Southwark
Rebecca Brown  servant  19  gen servant  Essex
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69 Union Street, St Saviour, Southwark
Richard Brown  head  47  hat maker   Southwark
Jane          "      wife    39                        "
Jane          "      daur   16  crown maker  "
Richard      "      son     12                        "
William      "         "        9                        "
Ellen          "      daur     6                        "
Henry        "       son      4                        "
Martha      "       daur     3 months            "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 May 05 14:52 BST (UK)
1851
5 Farnham Place, St Saviour, Southwark
Thomas Brown  head  36  dustman   Southwark
Sophia       "      wife    25 wool picker        "
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22 Devonshire Place, St Saviour, Southwark
Peter Brown  visitor 40 (unm) hatter  Ireland
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 May 05 18:59 BST (UK)
1851 census
134 Union Street, St Saviour, Southwark
Euphemia Brown  head 53 (wid) boot shoe retailer      Scotland
Henry          "         son   22                assistant "          St Saviour, Southwark
Edwin          "          "      19                      "        "                 "
Julia Hayne    servant     18 gen servant                        Surrey
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5 Princes Street, St Saviour, Southwark
Thomas Brown  head  61  lab                            Christchurch, Surrey
Ann           "       wife    45                                          "
John Manning  brother 41 (unm)  hatters porter        "
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81 Great Suffolk Street, St Saviour, Southwark
Edward Brown  head  38 butcher journeyman  Eggarly?, Surrey
Jemima     "        wife   36                                   Kenn???????, Berks
Ann           "      daur    15                                  Hammersmith
Emma       "         "       12                                  Kennington, Surrey
Jane         "         "        8                                   Christchurch, Surrey
ANN BROWN  Mother    62 independant            Wiltshire
Thomas Hughes   nephew 22 farrier                  Tamworth, Staffordshire
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3 Gravel Lane, St Saviour, Southwark
Robert Brown  head  45 basket maker employing 9 men   St Saviour, Surrey
Mary       "        wife   46                                                      Suffolk
Sarah Ann "     daur   16                                                     St Saviour
Nancy E     "       "       9                                                             "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 May 05 19:16 BST (UK)
1851 census
9 Gravel Lane, St Saviour, Southwark
Charles Brown  head  20 mat maker  Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Eliza         "       wife    23                    Mile End,         "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 22 May 05 10:13 BST (UK)
1851 Greenwich
29 Jubilee Alms Houses, Greenwich Road
Elizabeth Brown  head (wid) 92 toy dealer  Greenwich, Kent
Rebecca      "       daur (unm) 59 semstress  Woolwich      "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 22 May 05 20:44 BST (UK)
1851
14 Royal Circus Street, Greenwich
Sarah Brown  visitor 54 (wid) monthly nurse  Newent, Glos
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Royal Hill, Greenwich
Isabella Brown  visitor  40 (u) gen servant  London, Middlesex
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13 Burney Street, Greenwich
Agnes Brown  servant  (u) 49 gen servant  Greenwich, Kent
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Royal Hill, Greenwich
Sarah Brown  wife  35 (mar) annuitant   Deptford, Kent
Georgina "      daur 18     milliner             Greenwich  "
Amelia     "        "     16    scholar                    "
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15 Grooms Hill, Greenwich
Jane Brown  Sister  ???  70(u)         annuitant   St Olaves, Southwark
Mary A  "       niece         43 (wid)      "                 "              "
+ a cook & a housemaid
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 22 May 05 21:45 BST (UK)
1851 census, GREENWICH, KENT


1 Mays Building
Agnes Browne  servant  17 house servant   Stroude, Kent
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13 Hyde Vale Cottages
John Brown  head  65  Wesleyan Minister Deptford circuit       Cumberland
Sarah S "      wife    59                                                        Ponders End, Middx
Edmund "      son    24 URCS son LSA in practice      West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Rosetta  "     daur   17                                                      Canterbury, Kent
Julius     "      son    15                                                        Margate, Kent
Elizabeth Sharp  servt 18 servant                                     Maysbury?, Bucks
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(87) 5 Royal Place Court
James Brown  69 (widr) waterman   Woolwich, Kent
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14 Royal Place
Robert P Browne  head  48 (unm) architect & district              Lambeth, Surrey
                                                       surveyor of Greenwich
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24 Upper George Street
Mary Brown  head (wid)  65 house proprietor            Ditchling, Sussex
Sarah Lewis  servt          15  house servant               Greenwich, Kent
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32 Blisset Street
        George Brown  head 48 annuitant            Pimlico, Middlesex
        Mary         "       wife  47                             St Anns, Soho, Middlesex
George Daniel  "        son   15                            Walham? Green, Middlesex
Augustine Frederick "   "     12                                 "          "              "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 22 May 05 21:54 BST (UK)
1851
129 South Street, Greenwich
Mary A Brown  head  (unm) 56 fund holder  St George, Middlesex
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144 Guildford Road, Greenwich
Chas Edward Browne  head  42 retired coach maker  St Lukes Middlesex
Elizabeth           "         wife    47                                Cirencester, Gloucestershire
Louisa               "         daur    17                                Marylebone, Middlesex
Robert               "          son    15                                      "
Maria                 "         daur    13                                      "
Mary Ann           "             "      11                               St Pancras, Middlesex
Jane                  "             "      2                                 Greenwich, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 25 May 05 16:31 BST (UK)
1851
Blackheath Hill, Greenwich
Joseph Waterhouse  head  30  gardener   Sussex
Harriet        "             wife    30                   Denham, Bucks
+ 2 children
and
Harriet A M Brown  adopted daur 4 months    London, Middx
Harriet Brown         visitor  12                     Denham, Bucks
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1851
7 Orchard Street, Greenwich
James Brown  head  60  brazier  Deptford, Kent
Elizabeth  "     wife    50              Highgate, Middx
Caroline    "     daur   14 servant  Greenwich, Kent
Margaret  "       "       13                     "
Edward     "     son     11                    "
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1851
8 Plumridge Street, Greenwich
William Brown  head  36  lamplighter   Woolwich, Kent
Rebecca   "       wife   34                       Bengal, East Indies
Ellen        "       daur   6                         Greenwich, Kent
Henry      "        son    2                             "
Mary Ann "       daur   9 months                "
John Miller  father-in-law 69 (wid) cordwainer  Rotherhithe, Surrey
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1851
Skinners Court, Greenwich
Ellen  ? (doesn't look like Brown?) 48 (wid) charwoman   Deptford
Frances Brown  (u)  14                                                           "
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1851
Queens Street, Greenwich
John Brown  head  46 laborer                Surrey
Sarah  "       wife    43                                "
Sarah  "       daur    12                          Deptford, Kent
John    "        son      8                                  "
Rachel? "      daur     3                                  "
Mary Newsom "     19 (m)needlework          "
Samuel   "     son   23 (m)                     Greenwich, Kent
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1851
8 Morden? Place, Greenwich
Maria Brown  head (wid) 71  fund holder          London
Maria     "      daur  (unm) 36 teacher of music       "
Sarah Check (Clerk?) visitor (wid) 78 annuitant     "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Friday 27 May 05 08:09 BST (UK)
1851 Greenwich, Kent

4 Market Place, Greenwich
George Brown  head  (Unm) 43           hatter   Lambeth, Surrey
Edward Carlin  half brother (unm) 32       "       Greenwich, Kent
Louisa      "      mother (wid)     62                     Haychurch, Somerset
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1851
2 Ravens House Hill, Greenwich
Susan Brown servt  14 house servant         Islington, London
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1851
18 Ravens House Hill, Greenwich
Bickel family.......
Mary A Brown  visitor  (unm) 28   Yaldan?, Hereford
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1851
2 Victoria Place, Greenwich
Adams family........
Hannah Brown  visitor  (unm) 21 dressmaker  Greenwich, Kent
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1851
9 Orchard Hill, Greenwich
Samuel Brown  head 39  grocer  St Georges, Middlesex
Sarah      "        wife   36              Herts
Ellen        "        daur  5 months   Greenwich, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Friday 27 May 05 08:44 BST (UK)
1851 Greenwich, Kent

8 Haddington Terrace, Greenwich
Mary Forder  head  (wid)  64 lodging house keeper   London
Caroline Brown  visitor (wid)  34 annuitant   Hanover Square, London
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10 Clarence Street, Greenwich
Anne Brown   ?  2  Greenwich
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1 Romney Road, Greenwich
Thomas Brown  head  40 fisherman   Greenwich, Kent
Anna Maria  "    wife    35                          "
Elizabeth     "    daur    9                           "
Catherine    "      "        7                           "
Frances       "      "        5                           "
Alice            "      "        8 months               "
Benjamin     "   father  68  waterman        "
Catherine    "   mother 61                          "
Harriet Aitkin  lodger  40 Surgeons widow   London
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: gamor on Monday 30 May 05 12:35 BST (UK)
Hi Maz,
Have information on Browns in London Middlesex,
gamor
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Monday 30 May 05 18:13 BST (UK)
hi Gamor
would love to hear your news - please mail me and who knows we may connect!!!
send me a personnal message
all the best
maz
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: gamor on Monday 30 May 05 20:58 BST (UK)
Hi Maz
my gt grandfather, John Brown, was born in Lambeth in 1853.son of Stephen & Louisa Brown (nee Baker). I found him on the 1881 census living at Feltham with wife Mary Ann(nee Egelton,born in Stanwell c1854), sons John(Stephen?), Albert Edward (my grandfather), William,Emily Louisa (the only girl). On the 1891 census they were living in Kingston but only William and Emily were still with them. However George, and the twins Harold & Walter had arrived. By 1901 John (the father) had disappeared and Mary,Emily and the twins were living at 3,St.Saviours Rd., Croydon.I have been unable to find out what happened to the husband. I knew Emily up until she died and according to my g'father the twins emigrated to Australia after the WW1.
There is lots more to come but I feel that here is enough to find out if 'we have a connection' ?
                                     Hopeful - Gamor
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Monday 30 May 05 21:30 BST (UK)
hi
I cant see a connection as yet -- this is a rough on my Brown's

Grandparents - Charles James Brown born 1900 Southwark and Edith Ricks born 1900 Wandsworth
g,grandparents - Charles Henry Brown born 1877 Holborn and Annie Farrell born 1876 Camberwell
g,g,grandparents - James Brown born 1833 London, Middlesex !!!? amd Sophia Knight 1836 Middlesex London.
g,g,g,grandfather George - no other info

I have children for James, and the two Charles' but no other children for George as yet. So I suppose theres always a chance yours could join on to one of them?
Have you seen all the notes Bryant has kindly found on the Browns?
Maz
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 07 June 05 09:48 BST (UK)
1851 Greenwich

Park Hall School, Greenwich
Clara Brown  pupil  14  scholar  London
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1851
King Street, Greenwich
Robert Brown  head  34  Victualler  Greenwich, Kent
Elizabeth  "      wife   37                   London, Middx
George     "       son   7                     Greenwich
John         "          "     4                          "
Elizabeth  "       daur  2                          "
William     "         son  6 months             "
+ 4 servants
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1851
Nelson Street, Greenwich
John W Brown  head  bookseller   Greenwich
Lucy       "         wife                       Wiltshire
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1851
Moses Rents, Greenwich
William Brown  head  54  waterman   Deptford, Kent
Mary        "       wife    45                     Greenwich
Thomas   "       son      11                          "
Charles   "          "       13                          "
George   "           "       9                            "
Eliza        "       daur     5                           "
Henry      "       son       3                           "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 20 June 05 19:04 BST (UK)
1851
4 Norfolk Place, Greenwich, Kent
David Brown  head  35  waterman   Grevesend, Kent
Jane      "       wife    21                     Deptford       "
Baby?    "       daur    1 month           Greenwich    "
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1851
2 Union Place, Greenwich, Kent
Eliza Brown  wife  41  fishermans wife   Deptford, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 20 June 05 19:24 BST (UK)
1851
10 East Street, Greenwich
Susan Howe  wife  50 (mar)           London
Eliza Brown    daur 18                        "
John     "         son   13 (23?)          Greenwich, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 22 June 05 07:49 BST (UK)
1851
34 Trafalgar Grove, Greenwich
Mary Brown  wife  25 (mar) needle woman          Stock?, Bucks
Louisa    "     daur  3                                             Deptford, Kent
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1851
3 Clarks Buildings, Greenwich
James Brown  head  68 pensions ??    Pentonville, Middlesex
Ann        "        wife   69             P N K (place not known), Dorsetshire
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1851
14 Clarks Buildings, Greenwich
Charlotte Brown  wife  56 (mar)                     Bloomsbury, Middlesex
Jane            "       daur  26 charwoman           St Pancras,        "
Hannah       "          "    23         "                           "                  "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 09 July 05 07:16 BST (UK)
1851
(20) Bennett Street, Greenwich
Peter Brown  head  34  waterman        Greenwich, Kent
Mary       "      wife   30  needlewoman     "
Esther    "      daur   11                             "
William   "       son    9                               "
Jane       "       daur   2                              "
Mary       "         "       2                              "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 10 July 05 08:41 BST (UK)
1851
9 Reform Place, Greenwich
Benjamin Brown  head  27  seaman  Greenwich, Kent
Elizabeth      "      wife    23                     "               "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 11 July 05 13:56 BST (UK)
1851
24 George Street, Greenwich
Henry Brown  nurse child  3        London
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29 George Street, Greenwich
John Brown  head  30  boiler maker   Greenwich, Kent
Sarah   "      wife    20                              "
Mary E  "      daur     6                              "
Edward J "    son      2                              "
Charlotte "   daur     8? months                "
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14 Blackheath Terrace, Greenwich
Frederick Brown  visitor  18    Kensington, Middlesex
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2 Prospect Place, Greenwich
John Brown  head  57  Greenwich pensioner   Ireland
Fanny   "      wife    56                                          "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 11 July 05 17:28 BST (UK)
1851 census

6 Malbis Street, Greenwich
William Brown   head  28  lighterman   Greenwich
Eliza        "        wife    26                           "
William    "         son     3                            "
Eliza        "        daur     1                           "
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5 Queens Terrace, Greenwich
Phebe Brown   wife 33 (mar)  laundress   Norwood, Surrey
Emily       "       daur 10                              Camberwell,  "
Maria       "         "     4                                        "
Charlotte "         "     2                                        "
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1 Orchard Terrace, Greenwich
Henry W Brown  head  42  cook    St George's, London
Ann            "        wife   40             St Pancras,      "
Henry A      "        son    14             Westminster,   "
Elizabeth Murden   nurse child  1    Not Known
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Monday 11 July 05 20:49 BST (UK)
hi Bryant
once again I must thank you for all your hard work you've been doing on my behalf.
I still havent had much luck but will still plod through it all in hope.
And when I get some money together I will buy myself some certificates
hope you are well and your search is coming on nicely
all the best
marian
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: gamor on Monday 11 July 05 20:56 BST (UK)
Hi Maz,
How do you send an email to Bryant please,
                                                                Anthony
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 11 July 05 21:06 BST (UK)
1851 census HO107/1587

1a Marsh Lane, Greenwich
John Brown  head  36  grocer  Rippon, Yorks
Elizabeth "    wife   32              London, Middlesex
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(92) Woolwich Road, Greenwich
Thomas Brown  head  49  foreman of works  Bryton, Hants
Charlotte   "      wife    44                               Hampton, "
Edward      "      son     20  lab                        Bryton,     "
Richard       "        "       16   "                          Lambeth, Surrey
-------------------- nice way of spelling Brighton?

4 Lovegrove Place, Greenwich
Sarah Brown  head  75 (wid) annuitant   Lambourne, Essex
Sarah     "       daur   44                            Aldgate, London
Eliza       "         "       40                            East Ham, Essex
Christiana "       "       38                                 "
Frances Miller  serv    19  house servant   Greenwich
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Monday 11 July 05 21:08 BST (UK)
hi Gamor
Ive no idea, I talk through here. Sorry cant help you - unless you look under Bryant (as in surname on list)
all the best
marian
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 11 July 05 21:35 BST (UK)
Gamor

just click on my name to the left of any of my posts, this brings up another page and then at the bottom of the page click on send this member a PM (message).....................but I must add that I no nought about Brown's.....none are in my family....but if I see any I note them and put them on Maz1 (Marian's post)

Regards
Bryant
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 13 July 05 19:36 BST (UK)
1851
(87) New Cross N Side...St Paul Deptford
Alfred Brown  head  27  (unm)  beer seller   Eltham, Kent
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1851
(175) Clifton Road, St Paul Deptford
Daniel Brown  head  40  lab  Kelvedon, Essex
Ann         "      wife    30         Limerick, Ireland
Catherine "     daur   12         Dublin, Ireland
Elizabeth  "        "      4           Newcastle on Tyne
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1851
Union Work House, Greenwich
Thomas Brown  inmate  (widr)  67  sailor   Sidmouth, Devon
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Thomas Brown  inmate  (widr)  77 silk weaver  Stockport, Cheshire
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John Brown    inmate   (widr)    60  labourer     Greenwich, Kent
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Ann Brown   inmate  (wid)        79  house servant   Greenwich
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1851
1 Matilda Place, Greenwich
William Brown  head  55  liner commission agent  Paisley, Scotland
Pleasant   "      wife    44  Teacher                         Bristol
Ormeston? "     son    13  scholar at home             London
Malcolm     "        "       9       "                                 Paris?
Julia          "       daur   21  Teacher                         Islington
Mary Ann Addison? visitor  12                                 Glasgow, Scotland
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1851
Sanburgh? Lodge, Sanburgh Fields, Greenwich
Samuel Brown  head  70  Knight - Captain RN     London, Middx
Mary          "      wife    40                                     Edinburgh, Scotland
Janet Home  sister in law  50                                    "
Charlotte B????y  sister 60 (wid)                              "
+ 4 servants
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 14 July 05 07:34 BST (UK)
1851
Cold Blow Farm, St Paul Deptford
William Brown  head  46 market gardener emloying 18 m, 6 w & 1 boy  Croydon
Harriet    "        wife    43                                                               Clerkenwell
Louis      "    brother    40 foreman milk yard                                           Croydon
Sophia Johnson serv   24                                                               Bucks
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 14 July 05 18:03 BST (UK)
1851
9 Martins Court, St Paul Deptford
Charles Brown  head  28  Railway paints  ???   Sussex
Elizabeth   "      wife    27                                      "
Thomas     "       son     8                                       "
William      "    nephew 21 Railway fire  ??              "
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1851
Broadway south, St Paul Deptford
George F Brown  servt  18  butcher  Deptford, Kent
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1851
6 Amersham Terrace, Upper Road south side, St Paul Deptford
Mary Brown  servt  20 house servant   Ledbury, Hereford
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1851
1 Amersham Terrace...as above
Caroline L Brown  (w?) head  36 fund holder  Southwark, Surrey
Emma           "       (u)   sister  27      "             London, Middlesex
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1851
Upper Road north side, St Paul Deptford
Jane Brown  servt  17  house servant  Deptford
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1851
Lewisham Road, St Paul Deptford
Maria Brown  servt 21 house servant  Brockenhurst, Hants
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1851
1 King Street new town, St Paul Deptford
David Brown  head (u) 32 tea dealer   Scotland
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1851
1 Mill Street, St Paul Deptford
Henry Stead          head  44 stone mason   Greenwich, Kent
Sarah A   "            wife   44                              "
Ann Elizabeth "      niece 16                          Middlesex
John Brown  father in law 82 (widr) ?? boatswain   Greenwich
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1851
1 Porters Rents, St Paul Deptford
Margaret Brown  head (w) 65 annuitant  Southwark, Surrey
George Staniland? grandson 10               Deptford, Kent
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1851
9 Nelson Street, St Paul Deptford
Sarah Brown  head (u) 73 supported by ??  Loklow?, Kent
Mary Foster  visitor (u) 54                                 "
Martha King  serv         15                             Deptford, Kent
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 14 July 05 19:56 BST (UK)
1851  HO107/1584/236
2 Gutters Buildings, Mill Lane, St Paul Deptford
Martin??? Buckley  lodger  69  lab                       Ireland
Ellen           "          wife     59                                 "
Bridget        "          daur    13 employed on knitting   "
Patrick Brown        lodger   26  lab                           "
Johanna    "            wife     21  gardener                   "----------
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Friday 15 July 05 07:31 BST (UK)
1851
4 Mill Lane, St Paul Deptford
John Brown  lodger  (widr) 28  lab   Surrey
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1851
2 Mill Lane, St Paul Deptford
George Brown  lodger (unm) 34  lab   Chalk Hill, Norwich
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1851
2 Mill Lane, St Paul Deptford
Ann Brown           lodger  (unm) 22 servant    Kingston, Surrey
Elizabeth Brown      "       (unm) 52      "               "             "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 17 July 05 08:19 BST (UK)
1851
26 Friendly Place, St Paul Deptford
Mary Brown  head  (w) 57  nurse        Bromly, Kent
Emma    "     daur          17  servant    Cambridgeshire
Fanny    "       "              13                  Epping, Essex
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1851
20 Friendly Street, St Paul Deptford
William Brown  head 60  shipwright   Deptford, Kent
Ann          "       wife  60                            "   
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1851
2 Cannon Street, St Paul Deptford
Thomas Brown  lodger  36  lab   Ireland
Mary         "         wife    30              "
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1851
Garden Row, St Paul Deptford
Martha Brown  (wid) 58 laundress   Deptford
Samuel     "       son  19 bricklayer          "
Martha      "      daur 23 laundress         "
Ellen         "          "   20      "                  "
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1851
24 Knotts Terrace, St Paul Deptford
Charles Brown  boarder  24 (u) railway lab  Deptford
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1851
Brunswick Street, St Paul Deptford
Jane Dalton?           head  52 needlewoman  Berks
Louisa Brown          daur   20           "             Middlesex
Elizabeth Hewlet        "     22           "             Deptford
Louisa Brown             "      3                                 "
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1851
11 Tanners ? Hill, St Paul Deptford
James Brown  head  43  Greengrocer  Deptford
Rebecca   "      wife   40                        Essex
John         "      son     8                         Deptford
Charles H Wilson son-in-law 18                  "
Thomas Wilson      "    "     "   16                 "
Mar???  Wilson    daur-in-law 13                 "
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1851
4 Hill Street, St Paul Deptford
Edward Brown  head  34  ???    West Ham, Essex
Eliza          "      wife    29           Marylebone, Middx
Emily         "      daur     3           St Olaves, Southwark
Alfred?      "        son     1                 "             "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 18 July 05 10:36 BST (UK)
I have just realised that St Paul Deptford in 1851 is a place I have apparently  visited and it appears I missed the scribble to tell me that

What a plonker  :-[

Bryant  :'(
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Monday 18 July 05 12:21 BST (UK)
 :-[
ooo noooo - after all your hard work too!
Well - i must be an equal plonker to you as I didnt notice!!! :-[
I havent had time this weekend to look at it all so just filed it til i got a free day.
never mind - could be worse!
Maz
xxxx
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Monday 25 July 05 09:09 BST (UK)
DEAR BROWN LOVERS

MY MISSION HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED

I HAVE FOUND TIMOTHY BRYANT AND FAMILY IN 1851

HO107/1581/487...ST GILES CAMBERWELL

ST MARYS ROAD, PECKHAM
TIMOTHY M BRYANT  HEAD  55 GARDEN LAB    IRELAND
HONORAH       "        WIFE  42                               "
MICHAEL         "          SON  18                        PECKHAM
MARY               "        DAUR  14                            "
JOHN               "          SON  12                            "
MATTHEW        "            "      9                             "
             "            "      6                             "
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CONSEQUENTLY THIS WILL BE MY LAST POST ON THE 1851 CENSUS FOR THAT PART OF LONDON (IV'E HAD ENOUGH!) AND SADLY NO MORE BROWN'S

REGARDS
BRYANT   
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: maz1 on Monday 25 July 05 12:06 BST (UK)
hi Bryant
congratulations on finding your family members.
And thanks ever so much for all the help you have given me - its been much appreciated.
Good luck with any future hunting
all the very best
marian
xxx
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 26 July 05 08:46 BST (UK)
Oh Boy

1842
JOHANNA BRYAN married MAURICE BROWN 1842, Dec qtr, Bermondsey, Vol 4, page 19.
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1861
7 Brewers Yard, Bermondsey
Morris Brown  head  38 (widr) corn lab   Kerry, Ireland
Mary       "       daur   17                          Bermondsey
Ellen       "         "       14                                "
William    "       son    12                         Rotherhithe
Johannah "     daur    9                                 "
John        "       son     6                                 "
MICHAEL BRYANT brother in law  29            Bermondsey
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1871
3 Brewers Yard, Bermondsey
Morrise Brown  head  48 (widr)  lab           Kerry, Ireland
Mary         "      daur    25 housekeeper     Bermondsey
Ellen         "         "      25 dom servant              "
William      "      son     21  lab                    Rotherhithe
Johana      "      daur   17 needlewoman           "
John         "       son     15  lab                           "
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1881
506 Southwark Park Road, Rotherhithe
Morris Brown  head  58 (widr) lab   Ireland
Mary Ann "      daur  32                    Bermondsey
John        "       son   24 lighterman          "
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and next door to them is more Brown's......Ann G Brown aged 27 a mariners wife with children Harry aged 4 and Thirza aged less than 1 month.......
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Maurice Brown died in 1886, Greenwich district, Dec qtr, vol 1d, page 600 and he was aged 63
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*****
and I think that Johanna Bryan and Michael Bryant are my gr grandfather's siblings....a marriage cert required
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 27 July 05 08:24 BST (UK)
1841
CANTERBURY COTTAGES, PECKHAM
JOHN BROWN  33  BUTCHER   BIC
HANNAH "        41                      "
JAMES    "         5                       "
JOHN      "        2                       "
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1841
CANTERBURY COTTAGES, PECKHAM
JOHN BROWN  35 GARDENER  IRELAND
MARY     "        30                      NBIC
FRANCES "        5                       BIC
WILLIAM  "        3                       "
ELIZA       "        1                       "
FREDERICK CHESON? 9              "
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1841
EDWIN HALL, PECKHAM
WILLIAM BROWN  50 CONFECTIONER   NBIC
HARRIET      "        45                               "
SARAH         "        11                             BIC
WILLIAM      "        9                                "
HARRIET      "         7                               "
EMMA          "         4                                "
REBECCA HILLIER? 75                           NBIC
MARY R???????      15                               "
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1841
GEORGES TERRACE, PECKHAM
JOHN BROWN  30  MERCHANTS CLERK   NBIC
SOPHIA  "        20                                      "
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1841
PARK TERRACE, PECKHAM
ROSE BROWN  15 FEMALE SERVANT   NBIC
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1841
MAISMORE? PLACE, PARK OR GAP ROAD, PECKHAM
JOHN BROWN  25 ACCOUNTANT   BIC
EMMA     "        20                           "
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1841
WILMOT HOUSE, OLD KENT ROAD, PECKHAM
CHARLES BROWN  15  NBIC
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1841
BURDETT PLACE, OLD KENT ROAD, PECKHAM
MARGARET BROWN  45  IND                NBIC
JOHN              "        24  CLERK                "
DAVID             "       20       "                    "
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1841
KENT ROAD, PECKHAM
HENRY BROWN  25  NEWSAGENT     NOT ENGLAND
ELIZABETH "      45   IND                  NBIC
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1841
PARK ROAD, OLD KENT ROAD, PECKHAM
EMMA BROWN  60 IND          NBIC
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 27 July 05 11:46 BST (UK)
1841
CARLTON TERRACE, PECKHAM
WILLIAM BROWN  67  IND    NBIC
HESTER        "       70               "
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1841
2 BEXLEY STREET, PECKHAM
JOHN BROWN  60  ENGINEER   NBIC
ANN       "        60                         "
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1841
MELON GROVE, PECKHAM
WILLIAM BROWN  40  GARDNER  NBIC
SARAH       "          40                      "
MARTHA     "          10                      "
GEORGE    "            9                      "
FREDRICK  "           6                    BIC
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1841
MELON GROUND, PECKHAM
JOSEPH BROWN  36  PORTER  NBIC
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1841
MELON GROUND, NORTH STREET, PECKHAM
ROBERT BROWN  30  POLICE CONSTABLE     BIC
SARAH       "         35   LAUNDRESS                  "
EMMA        "         10                                        "
WILLIAM    "          4                                        "
MATILDA    "           6  MONTHS                      BIC
HANNAH    "          20                                        "
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1841
BATH STREET, MELON GROUND, PECKHAM
ANN BROWN  11  NBIC
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1841
SMITH STREET, MELON GROUND, PECKHAM
ANN BROWN  50  LAUNDRESS  BIC
SARAH       "   20                        "
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1841
? , NORTH STREET, PECKHAM
BENJAMIN BROWN  45  GARDNER  NBIC
JANE              "       45                      "
HANNAH        "        13                      "
THOMAS        "        11                      "
AMELIA         "         8                        "
MARY            "          4                    BIC
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 28 July 05 06:45 BST (UK)
1841
HIGH STREET, PECKHAM
STEPHEN BROWN  53  BRICKLAYER   BIC
SARAH          "       52                           "
SARAH          "       21                           "
CAROLINE    "       19                           "
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1841
PARK? HOUSE, PECKHAM
ELIZABETH BROWN  65   IND       BIC
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1841
COW WALK, PECKHAM
FRANCES BROWN  35   IND   BIC
FRANCES       "       1               "
ANN               "       2               "
JOSEPH         "       7               "
WILLIAM        "       4               "
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1841
PECKHAM RYE TERRACE, PECKHAM
JOHN BROWN  49  BILL BROKER        NBIC
ANN       "         50                                  "
EMMA    "         15                              BIC
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 1841
PECKHAM RYE COMMON, PECKHAM
HENRY BROWN  71 FARMER        BIC
SARAH       "      40                        "
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 03 August 05 12:18 BST (UK)
1842 St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey

16th October 1842
Maurice Brown aged 22 years married Johanna Bryan aged 21 years at the Catholic Chapel of the most Holy Trinity Dockhead
Maurice lived at 6 Salisbury Street, Bermondsey at the time of marriage.....
Johanna lived at 3 Norfolk Place........

father of Maurice is Edmund Brown a labourer
father of Johanna is Morris Bryan a labourer

witnesses are Ann Bryan and James Lay
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 11 September 05 21:19 BST (UK)
A Clerkenwell Brown

1851 census
29 Noble Street, St James, Clerkenwell
James Brown            head  39  silver? polisher journeyman  Cripplegate, Middx
Elizabeth "                wife    42                                                 St Lukes Middx
James M   "                son    16                                                 Clerkenwell, Middx
Elizabeth Lydia Brown daur 11                                                Clerkenwell, Middx
Susannah Sophia Brown  daur 9                                             Clerkenwell, Middx
William Henry Brown  son  7                                                     Clerkenwell, Middx
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Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: RuthieB on Sunday 11 September 05 21:31 BST (UK)
Anyone interested in Browns in North Yorkshire and South Durham at all? Especially those who are grocers/ironstone miners?

RuthieB
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: flour on Friday 20 January 06 19:50 GMT (UK)
Has anyone found any Hare-Browns in their family tree?

I've just received a copy of the marriage certificate of Joseph James Hare Brown dated 25th December 1892 in St George East. Until receipt of the certificate I wasn't sure whether the name Hare came from Joseph's mother but his father's name is given as Robert Samuel Hare Brown which takes it back another generation at least.

Joseph's mother was Sarah but I haven't been able to find a marriage date of his parents, Sarah was born in St GE, Samuel in St Lukes.

Someone on Rootschat did a 1851 look up for Samuel and found a Samuel born in St Lukes living with his parents James Brown (of Southwark) and Ann. None of the children, at least on the census, have the name Hare but most of Samuel's children were given it as a second or third name.

flour
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 January 06 11:10 GMT (UK)
Hello Flour

If you place a lookup for the Hare Brown's through the census years you should pick up where the added name came from?

Provide all the info you have from the cert/census and you will soon get results............place the lookup in the London lookup section

Regards
Bryant
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: flour on Saturday 21 January 06 18:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Bryant
Thank you for you reply I'll have a go but I've found that the name Hare crops up every now and again, example on Free BMD but not on family search  :)
If you ever see the two names together can you let me know please. With so many Brown's I'm reluctant to purchase certificates without firm dates etc., I can only go one step at a time - the next one will be Joseph's birth certificate which will give me his mother's maiden name and then hopefully narrow the search for his parents wedding certificate.
regards
flour
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 January 06 19:46 GMT (UK)
Flour

You need the 1901 first with Joseph J Hare Brown aged approx ? (what was his age on the marriage cert) and his wife's christian name and her maiden name and age.
His father Robert Samuel Hare Brown had what as an occupation and the cert doesn't say he is deceased does it?
Who are the witnesses at the marriage?
Where was they living in 1892 ?

You'll be amazed what can be achieved even with a name such as Brown...........whoops.... Hare Brown  ;D

Bryant
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: flour on Saturday 21 January 06 19:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you once again, it's true, there are a lot of things I can follow up on the wedding certificate.
I've just been looking at some of your previous postings about Brown's from Southwark and there may be some relations there, Robert/Samuel Hare Brown's father James was from Southwark - perhaps - I must learn a little patience.
regards
flour
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 21 January 06 20:26 GMT (UK)
Flour

And believe it or not...............I have no interest in Brown's   ???  I just started collecting them whilst looking for my elusive Bryant's and placing them on this post................
I got carried away somewhat........but i'm sure some of the info would have been useful for someone out there?

Bryant
Title: Re: brown - nice common one!!!
Post by: flour on Saturday 21 January 06 20:53 GMT (UK)
I hadn't realised  that you weren't a Brown, but I do live in the Medway Towns which include Chatham so if I come across, was it Buckley (from memory) I will let you know.

PS noted one of the witnesses is named Ware which possibly confirms Sarah Ann Ware married Robert (Samuel Hare) Brown in East London 1865, I have found the elusive marriage!
warm regards
flour
Title: Re: BROWN, (nice common one!!!)
Post by: sukie123 on Sunday 03 December 06 09:05 GMT (UK)
I know this is an old chain now. but I have recently come across an ancestor that is mentioned in some of these census extracts, and wondered whether anyone out there has any connection?

Ellen Brown, daughter of John Brown. She was born about 1829 in Rotherhithe and married James Harvey in 1848.

Regards
Sarah
Title: Re: BROWN, (nice common one!!!)
Post by: Boltonmets on Sunday 23 March 08 01:01 GMT (UK)
Hi

Do you have any further information on this Richard Brown please?

He is the brother of my 3Xgreat grandad!

Chris
Title: Re: BROWN, (nice common one!!!)
Post by: RuthieB on Sunday 23 March 08 08:23 GMT (UK)
oooh!!! Quite a lot!!  His wife and a fair few of their 11 children.

Can you tell me a bit more about your 3x grandad?  He wouldn't possibly be the father of Burdett Lambton Brown would he?

best wishes
Ruth
Title: Re: BROWN, (nice common one!!!)
Post by: RuthieB on Sunday 23 March 08 08:30 GMT (UK)
Just ignore that last post! My Browns are all from Co Durham.

RuthieB
Title: Re: BROWN, (nice common one!!!)
Post by: WRBrown on Sunday 21 April 13 09:03 BST (UK)
Marian (Maz1), I know this is old, but I have a grandmother Nellie esther Brown (nee Hagger) from Clerkenwell/Holborn born 1891, and married Leonard Brown in 1915. My father was born 1921. Is this relevant to you at all?
David
Title: Re: BROWN, (nice common one!!!)
Post by: maz1 on Thursday 13 February 14 13:38 GMT (UK)
sorry for taking so long in answering David
and also sorry to say that that information doesnt ring any bells with me im afriad.
Hope you are getting somewhere with your research. Mine is still at a standstill im afraid.
all the best
Maz