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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Ivyhedge on Saturday 26 April 08 08:49 BST (UK)
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Has anyone got any info or photos of inside or out of the Glover Bros woolen mill. The site is now a chemical plant belonging to Rhodia. In their History they say the site was that of the Mill. I'm picking that the Bros. were the sons of Joseph and Harriet. My Gr Grandfather Edgar was one of the sons, Leonard is listed as a mill manager, Joseph the father as employing 57 people. Edgar married Achsah Brook. The Brooks were also in textiles. I'm attaching a location map from Rhodia, & a photo from inside the mill from the history of Leeds.
Any connections greatfully received. :)
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Hi Ivyhedge
I do not currently have any info regarding the Mill but am about to research it as I have just found out that my Gx3 Uncle's children worked at the 'woolen mill' in Wortley circa 1901.
If I find anything out I will let you know.
Erika
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Thanks Erika, at over a year old I thought that post was dead. I wish you good research. As I live in NZ if you need some research over here sing out. Kind regards
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No problem at all.
Will let you know if I find anything. I can tell you that the chemical plant is no longer there, my husband said he thinks that it is now a water works (slightly worrying if you ask me!).
The area of Wortley itself is right next to Leeds City Center. The site itself was located next to the roundabout that is at the end of Whitehall Road. I know people that live in the area so will be asking them if they remember the Mill or know anyone who does. Fingers crossed that some one does.
Thank you for your offer, if only I could find a link to NZ!!! LOL I think I would need to do my own research though, excuse for a holiday lol!
Right well off to do some research now. Take Care
Erika
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Hi Ivyhedge
Back in 1846, there was a family called Glover who had a woolen cloth scribblers and dyers in Leeds. The firm was run by three brothers called Frederick, Joseph and William.
However according to a newspaper report in March 1847 a forgery case was discovered and warrants were issued for the arrests of all three brothers who had escaped justice from Leeds and disappeared, to places as far as USA.
Two of the brothers, Frederick & Joseph were unmarried but William had an extensive family and he left them high and dry.
Reports of this forgery and search for the brothers can be found in the Leeds Mercury which you can research free of charge in 19th century British Newspapers.
Just go to Lancashire Libraries online and start the fun, very addictive!!
Tom
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Hi it's an old thread - just saw it because I was googling GLovers Chemicals. There are two or three photos to see on LEODIS website old photos of Leeds - of the works outside views. The Glovers used to live in my house so I have researched them a bit.
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Hi all, I googled Glover's Mill Yard as found it in 1891 census with Carmi Glover and Frederick Glover both living there with families. I am doing some quick research of this family, as one of our family married a Anthony Rene CRAVEN who was married to Gladys May GLOVER, daughter of Clarence GLOVER (1865-1926) and Mary Ann BULMER, son of Joseph & Harriet Hamilton (b 1839), both born in Leeds, and who married on 11 May 1857. On the marriage register Joseph’s father was given as William Glover, who was a tailor, born in Kent, who married Mary from Morley. Joseph was the eldest of their 7 children, his siblings were Frederick (1837), Marie (1939), Eunice (1846), Selina 1850), Edward (1840) and the youngest Carmi (1852-1905). In 1851 William and Mary were living in ‘Bottoms’ in Morley in the district of Churwell.
Out of curiosity, I followed Carmi Glover through other records to check the spelling of his name and in 1891 discovered him living in ‘Glover’s Mill Yard’, Wortley, Yorkshire as a dyer, with wife Mary A and children Mary E, Hettie 15, Sarah C 13, Joseph S 10, Ada 8, Beatrice 5. His wife Mary Ann and the eldest children were all cloth weavers. Carmi’s elder brother Frederick, another son of William and Mary Glover was also living in the Mill Yard.
Following Joseph GLOVER and in 1871 he was a ‘manufacturer of Woollen cloth” living in Alverthorpe, Wakefield. He and harriet had a large family:
1. Eunice Glover (1858)
2. Leonard Glover (1860-1929)
3. Edgar Glover (1862-1947)
4. Laure Glover (1864)
5. Rose Ann Peel Glover (1864)
6. Clarence Glower (1865-1826)
7. Lily May Glover (1869)
8. Herbert Glover 1872
9. Archibald Glover (1874)
10. Elsie Hamilton Glover (1877-1887)
I was intrigued to see the link to the BROOK family who were primarily cotton mill owners. I have them on another part of my family tree so have quite a bit of research in the past on them. I'm just amazed at how these families all link up. It has formed a loop in my tree now! I guess they all tried to keep the money in the wealthy families. I note on the LEONIDIS site ithe photo of house at Alma Road - was built in 1866 for William Glover who was the owner of a Leeds chemical firm. Was this the same William Glover from Kent, father of Joseph. The checmicals woudl haev been surely the dyes used in the manufacturing to colour the wool? Would love to know more....
Hey Im in NZ also, in Christchurch, say hi if you get this msg and we can catch up if you are near!!
Amanda Kerby
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Hi
I live in the house where the Glover family lived. It is called Laburnum House and can be seen on Leodis website. Clarence lived there and other family next door in some cottages. The family also lived in other big houses in Wortley ie Fawcett House and also in Highfield House and Westfield House at various times.
Joseph Glover must have bought up Wortley Low Mills around 1860 and the Glovers took over running the mills and lived in Wortley around 1891. The mill was a woollen mill and dye works. By the 1930s the mill was all chemical and dyes and was sold for a lot of money. It has recently been demolished leaving Laburnum House as the surviving building.
If you look on maps Laburnum House is on Lower Wortley Road and the mills were south of the house on Whitehall Road adjacent to Wortley Beck.
The family were wealthy and in the newspapers of the time there is a report of a young woman being misled by one of the younger sons and she takes him to court for breach of promise. You can read this on Find My Past research site.... a witness was taken to Laburnum House and given champagne to drink in an attempt to pervert the course of Justice!
I did not know about Alma House I will look that up now.
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Forgot to say, Wortley Low Mills and Lower Wortley Mills and Upper Mills Wortley were all used at various times to describe the mill that the Glovers owned in Wortley. The mill was previously run by
Hinchliffe Daniel I think he went to live Gildersome .... Wellfield House in Churwell.
Christopher Topham of Morley son in law of the below James....
James Bateson of Highfield House
Mathew Bateson, the above James (brothers) and John Bateson their father and was built around 1790 with Boulson and Watt Steam engine purchased around this time.
You are right, all the families were interconnected by marriage and partnerships. The money "went into clumps" as you mentioned.
I have researched the history of our house and the mill if you are interested in any more about this. I don't really know much about the Glovers though.
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Wow thank you so much for all this information! How amazing you are still in that house and wonderful to be able to look up its history. I'm so glad to mentioned the link to Daniel Hinchliffe as he features in my link to the Glovers. Daniel Hinchcliffe (1825-1906) was married to Rachel Rhodes (1822-1903) who had 3 children that I know of, Elizabeth (1854-1895) Joseph Hinchcliffe (1845) and Benjamin Hinchcliff (1851). My link is through Elizabeth who first married Lionel HIRST, the HIRSTs being another family invested in mill ownership with many talented professional members of their family - mill owners & engineers. Lionel was a surgeon and sadly died shortly after they were married. Seven years later Elizabeth married again to Harry CRAVEN (1860-1934) and had 4 children, Harold Clifford Henry Craven, Rachel M Craven, Daniel Hinchcliff Craven and Claude Lionel Craven. Daniel H CRAVEN married Gladys May (Kitty) GLOVER linking forever the Hinchcliff an Glover families. Their apparent only child Anthony Rene CRAVEN married Joan Muriel Clarke Irons, my Nan's sister! Phew!
One other little tidbit - I wondered where the 'Rene' name came from. Clarence Glover and his wife Mary Ann BULMER had 2 chidlren, Gladys May (above) and a son called Joseph Rene GLOVER (b 1893) so that's where it came from, but where did it come before that?! In 1901 census Clarence is in Laburnum House, and as you will know they had a visitor staying with them, one Rene Buggenhoud aged 28, a general merchant of Belgian nationality! That's mixing business with pleasure!
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Hello all, I have just started researching the Glover family and came across this site. I am interested because I am in possession of a Rolls Royce which, according to records, was first purchased by Albert Glover and Sons in 1957 and would like to know as much as possible about the cars connection to the Glover family (assuming i have the right Glover family) a picture of Mr Glover with the car would be my dream find! Any help gratefully received.
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I am not navigating this thread well!
The Albert Glover and son is I think Glen Mill at Morley and maybe a different branch of the Glovers... there were also other Glovers in Leeds and it can be hard to sort them out.
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Hello Clarence,
Thanks very much for your reply, much appreciated. Your advice is duly noted. If you have any ideas on where I might best pursue my inquiries further, I would be most grateful. As stated in my first post, my dream is to find a lovely picture of Mr Glover with the Rolls Royce. Many thanks again.
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I see there are some records in West Yorkshire Archives... Bradford Library. You could try an online search of west Yorkshire Archives or National Archives using a range of terms. Albert Glover, Glen Mills and so on. There is a photo on Leodis website of a charabanc outing from Glen Mills.
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Hello All, this is all very interesting for me as Clarence Glover is my great grandfather and Daniel Hinchcliff (he didn't use the E) is my great great grandfather. My research has shown that Joseph Glover (Leonard, Edgar and Clarence's father) worked in a mill but somehow managed to get enough capital together to start his own in the Wakefield area. The brothers end up with the mill in Wortley after Joseph dies, I'm not sure of the exact sequence of events. What may be interesting to the present Clarence at Laburnum House is that Daniel Hinchcliff also lived in the house, definitely at the time of the census in 1881 but, perhaps, was already there in 1871 as he is in Lower Wortley but there are no house names or numbers on the document. Edgar and later Clarence sold out their shares of the business and somewhere I have Leonard's obituary. The mill included another large property, Fawcett House, which has since been demolished. I believe Clarence may have lived there too at some point. I have photos of both Laburnum Hose and Fawcett house probably from late 19th early 20th century. I'd be interested in any information people have on either of the families and also the Cravens whose family Daniel Hinchliff's daughter Elizabeth married into (Harry Craven was a draper and his father, Henry, an iron founder from Wakefield.
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Hi
I would love to see older photos of Fawcett House and Laburnum House.
Fawcett House was built by the Nussey family who then moved out to North Yorkshire.
It is hard to spot the mill and the clothier's house (Laburnum House) in the censussss because the village had no streets as such.
You can find Bateson's Mill in the 1851 and I think the 1861 if I remember correctly. You can find the clothier's house which I think was originally belonging to James Bateson because the Topham family lived there - Christopher Topham. I can give you a lot of info re the Batesons and Tophams although I don't know so much about the GLovers. The Glover brothers lived in many of the bigger houses in Wortley including Westfield House and Highfield House which again belonged to James Bateson. It was the Bateson family who built the mill around 1795. I did not know the connection between Daniel Hinchliff and the GLovers. Daniel went to live in Gildersome - he was at Laburnum House in 1871 and 1881. Joseph GLover had established his company in Wortley from 1866 which is when I think Christopher Topham sold it..... I always wondered where Daniel came into the story
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Hi Clarence2, I'll dig out the photos and try to put them up but it won't be until the end of the week. Can you send messages and files privately on this site as I could do them higher resolution?
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Hi I don't know. I only come on it to talk on this thread and that only of late.
We could ask if we can share emails maybe. That would help as I have some information about Laburnum House that is a big file with photos that I could share with you.
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You are both free to exchange e mail address once SimonHC has 3posts to his credit. :)
Don't post e mail info on this open forum as there is a risk of deletion and spam messages being sent.
Regards Brian
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Thank you Brian, in that case here's my third post! I'll post some pictures lower resolution so anyone who's interested can see. This one is of Laburnum House and I think the girl in the bonnet is my grandmother which would make the photo dated around the turn of the century, but I don't know for sure. Clarence Glover was her father who along with his brothers Leonard and Edgar owned Glover Bros. Mill. He lived in Laburnum House as did Daniel Hinchcliff before him. Daniel owned Providence Mill in Morley and possibly the Wortley Mill before the Glovers. Daniel's grandson was my grandfather and married Gladys May Glover my grandmother.
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https://i1.wp.com/www.morleyarchives.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/0014-0071d.jpg?w=640&ssl=1
https://i2.wp.com/www.morleyarchives.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/0014-0072d.jpg?w=640&ssl=1
two links to pictures of Wellfield House Churwell the home of Daniel Hinchcliffe from 1881 plus to his death.
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hi im tracing my glover family on ancestry been looking into the mills as my family from around this area trying to make connection but have hit a brick wall any info would be good thanx
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What a wonderful bunch you all are. You can see that I have not looked back at this site for so long it was hard to find my password. My G. Grandfather was Edgar Glover, My Grandmother was Elsie and I had a great aunt Kitty. Elsie is buried at Ruscombe Church near Twyford Berks. Attached is a Photo of Edgar trout fishing.