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Title: turners court
Post by: Diggit on Sunday 04 May 08 11:16 BST (UK)
hello i am new to this (and computers) so bear with me! i am trying to find out about a place called Turners Court in Wallingford. A gap in the family tree  - we believe a relative emigrated to N.Z in 1928 and the adress he gave was Turners Court - when his family were londoners. Any info or advice appreciated.
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: tazzie on Sunday 04 May 08 11:38 BST (UK)



   Hi Diggit ..... Welcome to Rootschat... ;D


   There is a picture here.....not sure if it is the same place that I am thinking of but it could be this....

  www.benson-village.co.uk/gallery/1735615

   click on the above link and it will take you to photo....

                      Tazzie
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Rabbit B on Sunday 04 May 08 12:57 BST (UK)
hello Diggit,

Welcome to Rootschat!  Turners Court was a reform school http://www.pettarchiv.org.uk/survey-williamhunt1.htm.

Some of the lads used to come to our Youth club when I was a girl!  They were all very nice lads!   ;D

Rabbit B   ;D
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Diggit on Sunday 04 May 08 13:53 BST (UK)
thanks for the replies, yes that's the place - i suppose reform school is better than prison! any more information anyone has got would be great. Still can't understand what he was doing there when he was from London. Nice to hear they were allowed out to youth club, perhaps he wasn't a bad lad after all.
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Rabbit B on Sunday 04 May 08 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi Diggett,

A lot of the lads came from London, it was a very strict regime there, if I remember rightly.

Only the very best behaved were allowed out!  Special privileges had to be earned!

Rabbit B  ;)
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Diggit on Sunday 04 May 08 16:25 BST (UK)
Thanks Rabbit B. Definitely not Centre Parks then. Well it all fits in with what we were told that he was the black sheep of the family - funny how i always have a soft spot for black sheep - i hope he made good out in N.Z

I have had a reply to say he married out there.
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 04 May 08 16:32 BST (UK)
thanks for the replies, yes that's the place - i suppose reform school is better than prison! any more information anyone has got would be great. Still can't understand what he was doing there when he was from London.


Maybe he worked there?

He was far too old at 27 to be a detainee. ;)

Carol
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Diggit on Sunday 04 May 08 17:16 BST (UK)
Thanks for the reply Carol 8353.
We have also been wondering how he came to be in there aged 27 if it were a reform school - on the shipping manifest he put his occupation as electrical engineer, so i suppose he could have been employed there. So frustrating not to be able to find out! No family records exist as for some reason he was never even talked about.
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Rabbit B on Sunday 04 May 08 18:14 BST (UK)
Am I being thick or something?  Where does it say that he was 27,

I read the year of immigration as 1928, not the year of his birth! 

Please enlighten me! I see no age mentioned till the last couple of posts?  But having said that there were young men as well as boys at Turners Court!

Rabbit B  ???
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 04 May 08 19:18 BST (UK)
Sorry Rabbit- but Diggit has one or two threads running at the same time here,see this one for further info http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,302759.msg1846520.html#msg1846520

Carol
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Diggit on Sunday 04 May 08 19:27 BST (UK)
Sorry if i am confusing people.  I am new to all this and still trying to learn how it all works. I really do appreciate the help. i am without IT support today as my granddaughter isn't here!
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 04 May 08 19:33 BST (UK)
Don't worry Diggit,you're doing fine  ;)

Some of those answering your questions on one thread will not have realised that you have two running alongside on different notice boards.

Just provided the link so everyone can see what's what  ;D

Carol
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Diggit on Sunday 04 May 08 19:40 BST (UK)
Thank you Carol8353 - it's all cabbage to me, but i am learning.
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Rabbit B on Sunday 04 May 08 21:44 BST (UK)
Thanks Carol,

I wondered if I had lost it at last!  ;D ;D

Nice to know that I am still with it!  Cheers me up no end!

Rabbit B  ;)
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Adrian Chambers on Monday 25 May 15 13:23 BST (UK)
 ::) I used to be a resident of T.C.. I was in Grove House.
Had many memories of my four and a half years there. Some good but many bad too!!
I was there approx between 1982 - 1987.
Staff in Grove house during my stay included: Jill Palmer, Mark Whitehead, Fran Hunt, & Mark Evans.
Turners court was run like a workhouse (NOT a prison), & it's actual name was "Turner's Court Vocational Training Centre".
                              Adrian Pattenden - Resident
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Geg on Tuesday 10 January 17 02:01 GMT (UK)
This post has been here a while so I don't know whether anyone is still following it, However, I grew up at Turners Court, I now live in NZ.

Turners Court started life as the Oxfordshire Colony in 1911 and the Wallingford Farm Training Colony. It was set up to essentially put to work 'idle hands' from the cities in an experiment to stem vagrancy and petty crime.

In WW1 it was then used to put 'conscientious objectors' to work on the land as part of the war effort.

at this time and through to the 70's it was run along similar lines as a military style training centre, but training rural activities rather than military ones.

After the 70's it changed it's focus from agriculture (although the training farm was still there) to other 'trades' like mechanical engineering, woodwork, catering, painting & decorating, horticulture, etc... and introduced classroom curriculums.

Throughout it's history boys were placed here by the authorities if they were deemed to be on the 'wrong path' or at risk. In the early days it was boys and young men, I believe after WW2 it was just boys, generally between the ages of 14 to 18.

Especially in the early days these colonies were set up to teach Rural trades with a view of giving them the skills to take to and populate the New Worlds, therefore you should find many people in Australia and New Zealand whose great grandfathers and grand fathers will have passed through these colonies.

Here are some photos of Turners Court and some of the people who lived and worked there.
http://www.benson-village.co.uk/Localities/Turners-Court/

A good book on the history of Turners Court is on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Oxfordshire-Colony-Turners-Wallingford-1911-1991/dp/1452077290

I hope this helps with someone's research.
Title: Re: turners court
Post by: Jonny D Kentt on Saturday 16 September 17 08:43 BST (UK)
https://www.facebook.com/Turners-Court-School-Wallingford-286035761815096/
i was there 1987/88 it was nothing like it was pre 70/80's by the early 80's it wasn't for underprivileged boys or at risk,a lot of us were there because we just didn't go to school and were petty criminals.There wasn't much control by staff over us and pretty much done as we liked,it was closed down in 1991 and left empty for 10 years demolished and redeveloped it is now called oakley court all that remains is the clock tower  https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17098558_286037495148256_8872840461285971119_n.jpg?oh=460044b563242049a5df85ac8ed9c430&oe=5A1682CA this was taken a few months ago