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Title: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: JDofHfd on Monday 05 May 08 02:06 BST (UK)
I'm hoping that someone can do a look-up for me.

I am wanting the baptism of Charles Pugh - some time between 1730 and 1739 - at Aberedw.

I believe that the surviving parish registers for Aberedw, Radnorshire, begins in 1740.  So, the much desired baptism might be in the Bishops Transcripts.

There should be a baptism for a Charles Pugh, son of Jacob Pugh & his wife Margaret.

There might also be a baptism for a Charles Pugh, son of John Pugh & an unknown wife.

A look-up would be greatly appreciated.

JDofHfd
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: Seattle on Tuesday 20 July 10 00:44 BST (UK)
Hi JD,

I know this is a really old post, but did you ever get anyone to look up this info you wanted?  I have a cousin who now lives in Aberedw and might be able to help.  Let me know if you still need it.

Seattle
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: diana2646 on Monday 07 January 13 17:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Seattle,

I was drawn to your thread by the title, which referred to Bishops Transcripts for Aberedw.  I am trying to trace my 5 X great grandfather who was David Whitney and I think born around 1740 in Aberedw.  This date is only guesswork really, which I have based on the date of his marriage which I found to Catherine Price in 1762.
I know that the Parish Regs for Aberedw only go back to 1740, so it would have to be the Bishops Transcripts.
I wondered if your cousin visited the Archives at all and would be able to do a look-up on my behalf?  I would be extremely grateful.

Kind regards Diana
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: osprey on Monday 07 January 13 18:15 GMT (UK)
the BTs are at the National Library in Aberystwyth, not at the archives in Llandrindod Wells.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/RAD/Aberedw/index.html#ChurchRecords
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: diana2646 on Monday 07 January 13 18:22 GMT (UK)
Ok, thanks for that Osprey
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: Llanfihangel on Tuesday 20 May 14 08:43 BST (UK)
To Diana2646

Thomas Pugh bequeathed most of his estate to a Johannes Whittney in 1705.  This Thomas Pugh died in Llandeilo Graban a few miles south of Aberedw.  The will is viewable on-line

http://cat.llgc.org.uk  Family history

In
Brecon Probate Records, 1660-1858 (WlAbNL)3650002 

Details
Pugh, Thomas, Llandeilo Graban, Radnor, Yeoman 

 Thomas Pugh : will, 1705. 

Cheers,

Llanfi
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: diana2646 on Saturday 24 May 14 17:34 BST (UK)
Hi Lanfi,

Sorry to have not replied before, I have been away.  Thank you for sending the details of Thomas Pugh's Will.  I have looked through it, although I can't make out what much of it says, but I can pick out the Whittney names.  I wonder if they are my rellies.  I thought at one point, that the Johanes looked a bit like 'James', as I have Jameses in my family, but that's probably wishfull thinking!  I saw that it said that Johannes was the son of Lomas - not english names - possibly scandinavian?

I would like to make a trip to Aberedw, when I can, as I have three relatives buried there: Thomas, David & Catherine Whitney.  There might not be readable memorial stones, but it would be nice to look and see.

Thanks once again for the information.

Kind regards Diana
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: Llanfihangel on Saturday 24 May 14 19:44 BST (UK)
Hi,
You can get the National Library of Wales to search Church records and Bishop's Transcripts at
http://www.llgc.org.uk/services/
You need to fill out an enquiry form (on-line) with as clear a request as you can. This means parish, fairly close date, and name(s). They will email a reply back to you within a few days, and if successful, you can order digital copies of the records. The copies cost a bit, but you can pay using a credit card.

Good Luck,

Llanfi  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: diana2646 on Sunday 25 May 14 10:10 BST (UK)
Hi,  Thank you for all the information.  I will get busy again with the family history, now I have got myself organised after coming back from holiday.

Best wishes, Diana
Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: Llanfihangel on Wednesday 28 May 14 04:41 BST (UK)
Hello Diana,

There is another will of David Pugh, Clyro, 1687 that refers to a sum of Fifteen Pounds owed by Eustance Whitney. The Whitney's were a famous family living in (guess where?) Whitney Herefordshire about 4 miles away from Clyro.

http://www.ffish.com/family_tree/descendants_robert_de_whitney/d1.htm

"Sir Robert de Whitney, son of Sir Eustace de Whitney and Anne Talbot, was born about 1225 in Whitney, Herefordshire, England. Another name for Robert was Robert de Whytene."



 I found that the Pughs of Aberedw were an ancient family too.

The history of Radnorshire: Jonathan Williams, Aberedw, Page 287. States that they had been living there for four centuries.

Happy hunting!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Bishops Transcript, Aberedw - PUGH
Post by: diana2646 on Saturday 31 May 14 14:34 BST (UK)
Hello Llanfi, thank you for all the information you have sent me.  Are you investigating the Pugh family?
I have done a bit of investigating into the Whitney (and the various other spellings of it) family and I read that there were no Whitney's in U.K. until the Norman Invasions and the coming of William the Conqueror.  I know there was a castle at Whitney on Wye and I also know that William threw out all the English & Welsh Lords and replaced them with his own men.  The man he put into Whitney castle, was I think Tursten de Fleming, but the family became known after that as Whitney, due to the place name.  There are a lot of David Whitney's in my family, but I have never been able to find this name in any of the very old records going back, the main names have been, as you say, Eustance and Robert, but no Davids.  I know that there were quite a few illigitimate children born in those days which seemed to take the father's name, so maybe my family sprung from one of those lines. 
It's all very fascinating isn't it!!
The 'History of Radnorshire' sounds like a very interesting book.
Best wishes,
Diana