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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: genjen on Tuesday 20 May 08 17:58 BST (UK)
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Hi,
My great grandparents, Peter Grant Raitt and Jane Milne, were married on 31st December 1895 at Laing's Hotel, Peterhead.
Can anyone tell me where this was or, better still, point me in the direction of some photographs. I am also intrigued by the fact that so long ago, when surely most people would have married in a church, they, for whatever reason, didn't. Any suggestions as to why this might have been?
Thanks,
Jen
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Hi Jen
If it helps to pinpoint it, from the 1891 census there are entries for a 'SAING'S HOTEL' in Prince Street Peterhead (as with all transcriptions, Saings could be Laings). Can't easily see it in 1901.
Monica :)
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Just confirming that address from an old post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Peterhead/message/286
Monica
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Monica,
Thanks for both replies. The link tells me that it became the Palace Hotel so I'm off to search for that now. Still wondering about the marriage bit though.
Jen
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Could either of the couple have been working/living there?
Monica
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I suppose Jane Milne could have been employed there before her marriage. It seems it was a Temperance Hotel so maybe that side of the family isn't responsible for my love of a good wine. Peter Raitt was a ships' carpenter and Jane's father, Joseph Milne, was in the building trade - sometimes a quarry manager, sometimes a stone mason, depending on what it is I'm reading! So no obvious connection to the hotel trade. Unless of course, Joseph Milne was the other sort of Mason as well and was big buddies with the hotel owner.
Jen
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Hi,
My great grandparents, Peter Grant Raitt and Jane Milne, were married on 31st December 1895 at Laing's Hotel, Peterhead.
Can anyone tell me where this was or, better still, point me in the direction of some photographs. I am also intrigued by the fact that so long ago, when surely most people would have married in a church, they, for whatever reason, didn't. Any suggestions as to why this might have been?
Thanks,
Jen
It's quite feasible. My parents were married in 1912 at the Castle Hotel (now a Nursing Home). Inverbervie
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Jen,
Here's a link to the Palace hotel website -
http://www.palacehotel.co.uk/
I'll be in Peterhead sometime either later this week or next week, so if you want any photos, just let me know.
Cheers
Jim
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Jen,
Here's a link to the Palace hotel website -
http://www.palacehotel.co.uk/
I'll be in Peterhead sometime either later this week or next week, so if you want any photos, just let me know.
Cheers
Jim
Thanks,
I had a look at the web site and reckon things have changed just a little since the wedding in question! I am hoping to be up there myself later in the year so thanks for the offer of photos but I should be able to take some myself.
Cheers,
Jen
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Funnily enough some of my ancestors - Fanny Kelman (b 1886) and George Smith Kelman (b 1888) were both registered as being born in the Laings Hotel in Peterhead as per their birth certificates - I have often seen some of my ancestors as being married in a Hotel in Aberdeenshire, but until the Kelman's never saw any that were born in the Hotel.
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My great grandparents, Peter Grant Raitt and Jane Milne, were married on 31st December 1895 at Laing's Hotel, Peterhead.
Although married at the hotel, were there addresses for them outwith the hotel or was the hotel their given residence?
In 1895 (SP, Valuation Rolls), the Proprietor of the Hotel at Prince Street was Mrs Isabella Cruickshank if it helps?
The VRs don't name the Hotel specifically, only the address.
Annie
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Ahh. looks as though Mrs Isabella Cruickshanks remarried or a married daughter has taken it over by the 1890s?
Proprietor of the Hotel at Prince Street in 1876/1877 was Mrs Isabella Laing.
Annie
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I don't profess to be an expert but my understanding is that people did not always marry in church in this part of Scotland. I think the banns were called or posted in whatever parish the couple belonged to but even though it was a church of Scotland marriage the Minister came to whatever venue the couple had chosen. I have several instances of people being married in quite modest private houses.
That said one set of my grandparents were married at the Manse and when I think back a set of great grandparents were married at a hotel in Aberdeenshire in the 1890's
In the late 1950's my brother was christened in my grandparents home.
I am sure someone can give you a bit more detail but I don't think your ancestors situation was unusual.
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https://www.gla.ac.uk/.../scottishwayofbirthanddeath/marriage
The above link might be of interest.
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Until the 20th century it was the exception to get married in a church.
The normal place for a wedding ceremony was in the bride's home. If she had no parents or was marrying a long way from home, the wedding might take place in the manse or in her employer's home.
Towards the end of the 19th century weddings began to be held in places like hotels and restaurants.
There is absolutely nothing unusual or remarkable or significant about the wedding taking place in Laing's Hotel.
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Until the 20th century it was the exception to get married in a church.
The normal place for a wedding ceremony was in the bride's home. If she had no parents or was marrying a long way from home, the wedding might take place in the manse or in her employer's home.
Towards the end of the 19th century weddings began to be held in places like hotels and restaurants.
There is absolutely nothing unusual or remarkable or significant about the wedding taking place in Laing's Hotel.
Thank you! This was what I wanted to know when I posted my original question! :)
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There is absolutely nothing unusual or remarkable or significant about the wedding taking place in Laing's Hotel.
Thank you! This was what I wanted to know when I posted my original question! :)
It would also have been good if you'd answered my question from Reply #10?
Although married at the hotel, were there addresses for them outwith the hotel or was the hotel their given residence?
Annie
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It would also have been good if you'd answered my question from Reply #10?
Although married at the hotel, were there addresses for them outwith the hotel or was the hotel their given residence?
Annie
I do beg your pardon, I missed that. No, they didn't live in the hotel. Off the top of my head, I can't give you their addresses - I'd need to dig out my records - but neither was resident in the hotel at the time of marriage.
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I do beg your pardon, I missed that. No, they didn't live in the hotel. Off the top of my head, I can't give you their addresses - I'd need to dig out my records - but neither was resident in the hotel at the time of marriage.
Apologies if you read my question the wrong way?
I was asking the question for the reason of 'why' they married in the hotel i.e. it is now obvious they weren't living there but as was mentioned previously, did Jane have an occupation?
This may have been her place of employment & what better place to marry as it would bring in revenue to their hotel as well as a good advert for future weddings?
Annie
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Jane Milne didn't have any occupation listed on the marriage certificate. She doesn't seem to have been with her parents in 1891 so she might well have been working in service somewhere. Strange that I seem not to have searched for her … I must remedy that!! :)
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There is a 19 year old Jane Milne, born Cruden, in the 1891 census at Monymusk. Unmarried, she is a cook/domestic servant at the Parsonage. There are a few trees on ancestry, complete with photos etc. They have all claimed another Jane Milne in the 1891 census (despite her being born in Chapel of Garioch!).
regards,
flst
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There is a 19 year old Jane Milne, born Cruden, in the 1891 census at Monymusk. Unmarried, she is a cook/domestic servant at the Parsonage. There are a few trees on ancestry, complete with photos etc. They have all claimed another Jane Milne in the 1891 census (despite her being born in Chapel of Garioch!).
regards,
flst
My Jane was definitely born in Cruden. Monymusk makes perfect sense. Her future husband, Peter Raitt, was boarding there at the time so that will be where they met. Why didn't I think of that? ::) Thank you.
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There is a 19 year old Jane Milne, born Cruden, in the 1891 census at Monymusk. Unmarried, she is a cook/domestic servant at the Parsonage.
My Jane was definitely born in Cruden. Monymusk makes perfect sense. Her future husband, Peter Raitt, was boarding there at the time so that will be where they met.
I think it's possible Jane may have worked at the hotel prior to marriage (given her occ. in 1891)?
It is known some women gave up work prior to marrying.
It may be worthwhile sending the hotel an email with some questions?
I was helping someone a while ago who'd had a relative on a census in an hotel & I emailed the hotel with what I'd found.
The hotel did have some info. from earlier times (which I was very surprised to find out) although I think it may have been a visitors book (the dates I was after weren't there, unfortunately) but they did have some surviving info. (surprisingly) i.e. an email may be worth the effort?
Annie
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This was posted on Peterhead when you were a kid.