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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: alancutts on Monday 02 June 08 09:09 BST (UK)
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g'day
Robert Cutts b 1803 m Anne Pickering 1831 Notts
I need to find a record of his death
last known in Sneinton census 1841 and 1851 but has dissapeared between 51 and 61 census.
can anyone help.
Kind Regards Alan
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Hi Alan,
Just linking this to your previous post http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,219343.msg1151096.html#msg1151096
Did you manage to trawl through the full GRO index for Robert's death?
Barbara :)
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Do you know if his name was Robert Waterhouse Cutts?
And, have you found those 2 younger children on the 1861?
Tricia
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Tricia g'day
thanks for replying,
(a) that photo of Edith takes my breath away looks to be about the 20's, very lucky,
havent been able to go any further than calling up all the robert deaths for that period then getting someone over there to see if it was him, no luck so far,Waterhouse is definatley not him.!!!!!
Henry and Jane I still havent found in the 61 list but it is incomplete Cos someone sent me what they had cant afford the disk myself,
I may have found Janes marraige in 1869 to a Bradley but I havent had the $ means to verify it
I bunged in the robert request to refresh the search for me is all..
Kind Regards Alan
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Do you know if his name was Robert Waterhouse Cutts?
And, have you found those 2 younger children on the 1861?
Tricia
I'm a newbie to Rootschat, so hope I'm obeying the rules here! I'm jumping in because I have done a fair bit of work on the Waterhouse/ Cutts family. My real interest is the Waterhouse family as Robert Waterhouse Cutts' mother was Mary Waterhouse, sister to "my" Waterhouse. The Cutts family is a fascinating group. Robert's father was John Priston (or Preston) Cutts. If you need to know any more about them or Robert's siblings just ask!!
Margaret
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g'day
he is definately not a waterhouse cutts sorry.
Regards Alan
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Sorry, Alan.. I was really curious to see what Tricia knew about Robert Waterhouse Cutts, as she mentioned him. He was from Sheffield, I believe but wound up in Beunos Aires!
Margaret
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Hi, Margaret
I don't know anything about Robert Waterhouse Cutts but I found a reference to him when looking for Alan's Robert Cutts.
Can't remember what the reference was now and immediately forgot about it when Alan said it wasn't his family.
Sorry, Tricia :)
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Hi Margaret,
Welcome to Rootschat :) Hope you enjoy your time here
Alan, I've been searching the 1861 census and can't find any of them, before looking for a death for Robert, have you considered that the whole family may have emigrated?
In 1851, to recap, there were children William 15, George 13, John 11, Robert 7, Henry 3 and Jane 3 months. Very strange for them all to have disappeared unless hiding under mistranscriptions :-\
Barbara
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Thanks for everyone's welcome & responses. My hopes of a link with you all seem to have been dashed .. but you've helped me 'get my feet wet' and join Rootschat. I've intended to do it for ages and this was the nudge I needed. Maybe now I'll go to see what's doing in the Sheffield area. The only Notts. family I link to is Beardmore....so ... thanks anyway
Margaret
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g'day Barbara
I found robert jnr in the 61 census he is a lodger in wood st
Sneinton, william marriesa Karrenhapachuk in 1855 robert married in 1865 to sarah waterfall and they moved to Salford by 1872 no sign of Robert snr though except that he remarried
to a mary treece in 1853 Notts the only link in the data is that his occupation at the time was a "birdstuffer" which comes up on the marraige data. no sign of george or robert or jane or Henry in 61 at all BTW william was a confectioner and robert b 1844 is listed as a confectioner assistant so I can assume he was either working with william then or he was working with the waterfall family who were butchers I think.
Robert b 1803 is certainly a challenge hey!!!!
Kind Regards Alan
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Hi Alan,
I think I'll stick with the emigration theory for Robert, Jane & younger children :-\
Sorry couldn't be more help
Barbara :)
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Thanks
I might start by checking the lancashire area in case he went with robert junior or william hey!!!!
Regards Alan
PS thanks!!!!!
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Alan, did you follow those two right through to 1901? Need any help with that?
Barbara
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Barbara g'day
got both those lines up to 1901 thanks but let me say how wonderful you are to make the offer,.
i have just found out that as a kid I used to do a lunch run for work and would get a boxful of hot pork pies in Salford and that pie shop bakers used to be the Emigrants from Notts the "Cutts" pie shop of chapel St they were there from about 1870 till the early 1900's and I never knew of them, bit sad really but getting to the point was a long long trip for me and very exciting result.
Kind Regards Alan
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Alan, did you follow those two right through to 1901? Need any help with that?
Barbara
Barbara g'day
just had a thought,yeah I know the old joke "think for a minute" Oh a whole minute"!!!
is there any way you can trace the George from the Sneinton family he was b 1837 and the John b 1840,
pleeese please!!!???
Regards Alan
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Couldn't find any of the family in 1861, but there's this George in 1871 - you'd need their marriage cert to be sure of his father's name
1871 RG10/3505 Folio 120 Page 14
Thorneywood Lane, Holly Gardens, Snenton, Notts
George Cutts 33 head m Lacemaker Nottingham
Elizabeth Cutts 26 wife m Lace Clipper "
Barbara
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g'day Barbara
my cousin sent me that detail from 1871 before but he also sent me info on George from the 61 census RG9/2448 folio 45 pg 16 sched 89 where he is at Caulby st/lane and married to a Jane?????????
have a gander and let me know what you think Please strange people these Cutts'sssssssss hey!!!!
Regards Alan
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Hi Alan,
Perhaps it would help if you gave me all the information you already have as it would save time duplicating look-ups ;)
I thought you said you had no trace of George and John after 1851?
Have looked at the 1861 census, that George Cuts (one t) is also a lacemaker, aged 27 though, (although census ages can't be relied on), wife Jane and 2 children.
Possible marriage Jun 1854 Basford 7b 143 George Cutts & Jane Spray
in 1871 RG10/3527 Folio 6 Page 6 George is missing, Jane married with 3 children.
You would need to get certificates to find out whether he would be the right George.
Barbara
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G'day Barbara
no I havent got any verified detail just some speculation from
my cousin contact in Derbyshire, he hooked on to the Spray marraige i think because the name appears in my list around the late 1700's etc,
however I am afraid you are correct in that the only way is via some certs, so i will have to start working at dropping hints for my next birthday or fathers day etc it has worked in the past .
Thank you for your help.
Kind Regards Alan
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Do you know if his name was Robert Waterhouse Cutts?
And, have you found those 2 younger children on the 1861?
Tricia
A Robert Waterhouse Cutts married Harriet Bunster, fourth daughter of Grosvenor Bunster (formerly of Royal Navy 1805/6 to 1815) at the English Church in Valparaiso, Chile. Their daughter, Harriet Cutts, married a Scot - Robert Craig Christie. There are about 1,000 descendants in Chile, England, Switzerland, Holland, New Zealand, Canada and USA.
John
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Hi, if youre still looking into the Cutts family, Ashfield District Council had put burial records on one of their web sites so you could call up a local graveyard.
Annesley All Saints ( the New one sited on the Hill) has a Cutts family grave, and as Newsted is the next village to Annesley (less than 3 miles) its possible the Cutts clan were miners and moved just down the Road.
Annesley Old Church is currently undergoing restoration to a 13th century tower and this is at the side of Annesley Hall, the old manor house of the area. The family employed numerous people on this estate, but had other estates that staff could be sent or asked to be moved to esp in Norfolk. But a national campaign to get people to move to Canada in the early part of the 1900's seemed to take a good number of families to the farming/agricultural northern Canada.
Hope it helps.