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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Oxfordshire => Topic started by: River Girl on Thursday 12 June 08 16:11 BST (UK)
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I am trying to trace my gt. gt. grandmothers family. She was Frances Walklin/Walkling born 1810 approx., in Henley-on-Thames, she married my gt. gt. grandfather William Wheeler of Richmond, Surrey on 26.8.1834 at Christ Church, Newgate Street, City of London and died in Richmond, Surrey on 22.12.1880.
Despite research I seem unable to find any trace of the Walklin family in Henley on any of the internet sites, I have been unable so far to go to Oxfordshire county records office.
Does anyone know of the family?
Margaret
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I assume this Rachel must be yours, maybe a sister of Frances?
1881 RG11/0843 Folio 46 Page 30
Water Lane, Richmond, Surrey
Ann Wheeler daughter 42 unmar Richmond
Rachel Walkling sister (aunt) unmar 64 Henley
1841 HO107/1075/9 Folio 5 Page 3
Lower Road, Richmond, Surrey
Rachael Walkling 20 FS N
in house of
Joseph Truscott? 65 Royal Marine N
+ 2 other FS
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1851 HO107/1605 Folio 27 Page 3
The Rise, Richmond, Surrey
Rachel Walkling 33 House Servant Oxon Henley
in house of Elizabeth Guyon 65 Fundholder London, 2 sons, 3 grandchildren and 3 other servants
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Hi Margaret,
This is from the Henley PRs (Oxon FHS CD) -
baptised March 18, born Feb 21 Frances WALKLING d/o Thomas & Elizabeth. Mother's maiden name TYLER.
Jill
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Doh! Forgot the year! 1810.
Jill
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Hi Margaret ...
Bad news ... no sign of Thomas and Elizabeth's marriage on the Oxfordshire Marriage Index.
Good news ... it's on the IGI (1800 in Southwark)!
Pennie
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Hi,I have Wakelin s in my tree from Henley Oxfordshire,James Wakelin born 1753,Henley Died 12/11/1834,married to Ann Wakelin Born 1758-1834,their daughter Caroline (my GGGG Grandmother) born 28/12/1794,Henley,Died 01/03/1875 Watlington,Married to John Lowe,I hope this might help?? Spannie
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Hi "River Girl". You said that Frances Walkling/Wheeler was your great great grandmother. Snap! Maybe we can compare notes.
I suggest you look at the posting "RootsChat.Com\Beginners\How to Use RootsChat\Personal Messages (PM)", dated 14 September 08, before proceeding.
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Hi,I have Wakelin s in my tree from Henley Oxfordshire,James Wakelin born 1753,Henley Died 12/11/1834,married to Ann Wakelin Born 1758-1834,their daughter Caroline (my GGGG Grandmother) born 28/12/1794,Henley,Died 01/03/1875 Watlington,Married to John Lowe,I hope this might help?? Spannie
Hi Spannie, I'm a Wakelin of Canada and Belize. My grandfather, Benjamin Franklin Wakelin, came from Henley and would have been born approx. 1885. I'm trying to put a name to his siblings, his mother and father and further back if possible. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, dwak
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Dwak:
My grandfather was Benjamin Franklin Wakelin born 1884 in Henley on Thames.
His fathers name was James and his mothers name was Eliza.
It looks like he had 11 brothers & sisters.
I don't know the date of his death but I believe it was in Belize.
Hope this helps
Maple9
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Wakelin...ive search all my info regarding the Wakelin side of the family,but am in the 1700s still!! i will have a further look at my paper work and get back to you regarding Benjamin asap,im in Oxfordshire so might have to visit the records office.
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Looks like we all wasted our time on this one, as River Girl never responded. :(
Jill
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More info that I have on Benjamin Franklin Wakelin
Father James born 1844 Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England
died 1925 York (Toronto) Ontario Canada
Mother Eliza Ivermee born 1844 Henley, Oxfordshire, England
died 1927 York (Toronto), Ontario Canada
Grandfather James born 1810 Bril, Buckinghamshire, England
Grandmother Mary Newton born 1812 Bril, Buckinghamshire, England
I would appreciate any info prior to this.
Thank you.
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Just to confuse us all,ive found a Mahershalalhasba Wakelin born 1755 son of Adam Wakelin and Mary croxford,he married a Mary Croxford 1798 and died in 1814.
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Just to confuse us all,ive found a Mahershalalhasba Wakelin born 1755 son of Adam Wakelin and Mary croxford,he married a Mary Croxford 1798 and died in 1814.
My wife has an ancestor SARAH WAKELIN bapt 25DEC1803 at Aston Rowant d/o MAHERSHALAHASBA WAKELIN and MARY? She was one of 8 children for this couple . Could you give me more details on M&M please as you may have broken down one of my walls.
VW
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Hi:
My side of the family does not take in Sarah 1803, but I was able to check out the family tree on ancestry.ca and I found:
Sarah's birth name was Sally and she changed it to Sarah when she got married to Marshall Hill in 1824.
Her Parents were
Maher-shalal-hash-baz Wakelin
Born Apr 16, 1755, Lewknor, Oxfordshire
Died Jul 10, 1814, Aston Rowant, Oxfordshire
Mary Croxford
Born Jun 12, 1768, Aston Rowant, Oxfordshire
Died Mar 25, 1851, Aston Rowant, Oxfordshire
Marriage St. Martins, Oxford, Oxfordshire Sep 25, 1798
On the Wakelin Side:
Grandparents (Married 1752) They had 13 children
Adam Wakelin
Born 1727 Mar 10th Lewknor, Oxfordshire
Died Mar 30, 1795 Ashton Rowant Oxfordshire
Mary Croxford
Born 1734 Sep 13th Lewknor, Oxfordshire
Died Aug 30, 1793 Ashton Rowant, Oxfordshire
Great Grandparents on the Wakelin side: (Married 1719) (9 children)
John Wakelin
Born: Oct 17, 1696 Lewknor, Oxfordshire
Died: no info
Mary Bayley
Born: Adwell, Oxfordshire
Died: 1738
Great Great Grandparents on the Wakelin side: (1 child)
James Wakland
Born May 3, 1658 Great Hasaley, Oxfordshire
Died: 1716
Ann (no other info)
This family tree is quite large. The children are all listed and the mothers side of the family is also recorded.
Hope this helps
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Hi,Bear with me as i have alot of paperwork..Mahershalalhasba Wakelin b 1755 ,burial 10 july 1814 son of Adam Wakelin Deid 1795 and mother Mary Croxford b 1734,married to Mary Croxford 1798 daughter of Richard Croxford 1742-1815 and Sarah Nellum 1738-1816.Mary Croxfords parents were Robert Croxford (1704-1757)and Ann North, marriage 1730,father of Robert was John Croxford (1677-1735) and Dorothy? married 1700,Johns parents were Robert Croxford (1642-1724) and Mabal Fhilbey (1647-1687)married 1668,Roberts parents were John Croxford(1613) and Rachel Towne,married 1639,hope this helps
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Hi Spannie and Maple9
Thank you for all that info. I have been stuck there for a fair while but now you have shown me where to go next.
Incidently Sarah[ Sally] married Marshall Hill as he called himself in every census but when I checked the PRs he was actually Mahershalalhashbaz Hill. Is it a massive coincidence that her father and husband had such a strange christian name or did they all belong to a religious sect.?
Vic
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I found this on M. Wakelin profile
Added by kcarmichael43 on 19 Jan 2009
The name MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ is the longest given name in the bible. It is a name that is derived from the book of Isaiah 8:1-3 and is hebrew for "To speed to the spoil, he hasteneth the prey" The name is usually spelt with hyphens.
Still looking for more info
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Hi Maple9,
I notice at this point (below), Wakelin seems to derive from Wakland. I wonder what inspired the change and if this was true for all the Wakelins at this point. I have noted earlier references to Wakelins on the net. some slightly earlier than 1066.
dwak
Great Great Grandparents on the Wakelin side: (1 child)
James Wakland
Born May 3, 1658 Great Hasaley, Oxfordshire
Died: 1716
Ann (no other info)
This family tree is quite large. The children are all listed and the mothers side of the family is also recorded.
Hope this helps
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dwak:
I dont know if Wakland relates to all Wakelins.
Our part of the Wakelin tree goes from Benjamin Franklin, Father James 1844 -1925 Grandfather James 1810. I haven't been able to find anything prior to that. English Census started 1840.
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Hi,
I am searching for Waklens in Lewknor, and just found this thread. I'm curious about these people:
>Great Grandparents on the Wakelin side: (Married 1719) (9 children)
>John Wakelin
Born: Oct 17, 1696 Lewknor, Oxfordshire
Died: no info
>Mary Bayley
Born: Adwell, Oxfordshire
Died: 1738
I am following the tree for John and Mary's daughter Anna Maria, and I cannot find the marriage of John and Mary. I have looked in the parish transciptions for Adwell and Lewknor and cannot find Mary's birth or the marriage entry. I'm curious about how Mary's last name was determined, and if anyone has seen this marriage that took place in 1719. Their first child was born in Dec 1719.
Thanks for the help!
-Claire
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River girl. Yes I know this family and have two photos of William & Frances. Are you still on line.
I am 5 generations from them so I think that makes William my Great Great Great Grandfather.
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Dear Maple9:
My grandfather Charles Newton Wakelin (born Sept 15, 1882West Hill Henley) was one of Benjamin's brothers I believe. I got info from my dad (born Raymond Charles Wakelin 1908 Toronto, Canada). My dad said there were 5 boys (Alfred, William, Charles, Benjamin, George) and 8 girls, 4 of whom came to Canada. He knew those girls names and who they married etc. I have some of that info. I'm pretty sure that its the same family because my dad said that he knew his grandfather James and his grandma Eliza when they came to Canada late in life. And I just found out from your post that they died in Toronto in 1927 - didn't know that.
Would love to keep in touch and fill in some blanks and questions I have. We have 7 children ourselves and some of them are interested in the Wakelin side and two of them are going to England this summer on vacation and are wanting to see Henley-on-Thames. In 1903 Charles married a girl (Kate Clements) who was born in the Jolly Waterman in Henley-on-Thames in 1879.
Would love to touch base with you and any one else that has information before that time. I was always told that Sir Issac Newton's mother was a Wakelin - does anybody have info on that?
Although I was born and raised in Toronto, I have lived in Saskatchewan for over 40 years.
I'm just new to this search so any info would be appreciated. Thank you!
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Dear Needthesun:
Yes, it looks like we are related. I would like to keep in touch. You might want to check out my family tree. It is Goodbody / Wakelin Family Tree. The Wakelin men were carpenters. Archibald George Wakelin became a Reverend Canon in the Anglican Church of Canada. Do you have a family tree?
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Wow, this is great!!!! Thanks for replying so soon! I just started my search so am so happy you responded.
All I have is from my dad - I 'interviewed' him and he talked and I wrote down everything he said. He had a memory like a steel trap! However, I'm a little confused, - are Benjamin Franklin Wakelin and Archibald George Wakelin, brothers? ... or father and son??? Benjamin also had a son George, so I am curious to know how you are related to who and where you live now? I will certainly look up your family tree, so that will probably solve that. And yes, the Wakelin men were all carpenters according to the info I have too!!!!
Also, today, I just talked to my long lost cousin John Wakelin who just moved to BC from Ottawa - and he has lots of info and family tree - he said he will copy it all and send it to me by mail. I can hardly wait!!
This is exciting. So happy I found you!! I want to know about you and your family - how old you are, where you were born etc etc etc. But there is not much space here and it is very public. I can give you my email address if you would rather! Talk soon? Thanks again!!
T
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Dear Needthesun:
I am on ancestry.ca and it would be easier to find the info that way rather than me typing it and sending it to you.
I am from the Benjamin Franklin line.
Benjamin Franklin (1884 -1972) married Rose Chamberlain (1881 - 1968)
They were married in Lethbridge 1910
Their sons:
Benjamin Frank (1911 -1961)
Ralph Ernest (1913 -1960)
James William (1914 - 1990)
Daniel George (1918 - ) everyone called him George
Their daughter:
Ellen Rose was born in Toronto (1921 - 1983)
My mother was Ellen Rose.
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Dear Needthesun:
Archibald George Wakelin was a carpenter then went into the ministry.
1932 - Rector at Lansdowne Rear, Athens, ON
1937 - 1950 Rector at St. James, Kemptiville, ON
He is buried in the church cemetary.
Will chat later. Off to church.
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Hi dwak,
Benjamin Franklin Wakelin was my grandpa Charles brother. There were 13 children in all, most came to Canada. All carpenters. My dad knew his grandparents James and Eliza well, they lived on the same street in Toronto. Have some interesting side notes eg: James was 6'2", Eliza was 4'10", James was a mean man and when he died, it is said that Eliza said "there lies the man that ruined my life". Would love to know your connection and anything else you have. Thanks!
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Dear Needthesun:
Dwak and I are first cousins. We had the same grandfather Benjamin Franklin.
I found a picture of Eliza and James and yes, she was quite a bit shorter than her husband.
James, wife Eliza and Olive Jessie immigrated from England in 1907.
Lived at 192 Van Horne St. Toronto
Alfred James, wife Maria, Amy, Edgar, Hilda & Sydney immigrated from England in 1905
Lived 138 Boon Ave. Toronto
William Edward immigrated Mar 1905
Lived 184 Van Horne St. Toronto
Charles Newton, wife Kate and Phyllis immigrated from England 1905. They came over with Alfred James and family.
Lived 188 Van Horne St. Toronto
Benjamin Franklin immigrated 1906
Archibald George immigrate 1906
Lived 192 Van Horne St. Toronto
Mary Margaret immigrated 1911
Sarah Newton, husband Thomas White, George & Lydia immigrated 1910
Lived 337 Westmorland, Toronto
Lizzie Mildred immigrated 1906.
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Thlanks for that Maple9.
My cousin John said that he has about 40 pages that Benjamin Franklin wrote and he has other stuff he is going to send me after he photocopies it all.
I am curious to know all the sons and daughters and their sons and daughters of James and Eliza's 13 children.
The info my dad gave on his uncles and aunts pretty well match, assuming that Mary was called Molly and Sarah was called Sally, and her husband was called Bill (not Tomas?). Also my dad called Alfred's wife aunt Judy (you had her as Maria).
Do you have info on the three girls that never came to Canada?
As interested as I am of ancient history, I am also wanting to know who of us are still alive and would like to keep in contact. Have talked on the phone to my counsins John and Carol. Would like to talk to you we have a good plan, I could call you. Thanks, Jane
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Needthesun:
I'm one of Eliza and James' great, great grandchildren. I got stuck and did a google search and this thread was the first thing that came up. Pretty lucky that I'm searching today of all days I guess.
My great Grandparents were Sarah Newton Wakelin (1880-1950) and William Thomas White (1881-1938). They married in England and came over with the rest of the Wakelins.
I have a photo of their obituaries and managed to track down their shared grave plot just a couple of weeks ago.
I really just started looking in February and by fluke, I live just down the road from their old home in Toronto. I only moved to Toronto a year ago.
I'm finding a ton of information on the Wakelin side but not a whole lot on the White side, although I notice that a generation before William and Sarah married, a lot of White's lived in Brill and married a lot of Wakelins.
I haven't had time to research a connection yet, but that would be interesting. All I know is I have a lot of roots in Brill.
I'd love to trade information on the Wakelins...the information just in this thread is going to keep me busy on ancestry.ca for a bit.
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That's really cool - I actually just started on this family thing myself! When I talked to my dad, he said he had an Aunt Sally who married Bill White and had 2 boys and 1 girl. Who is your mom or dad? Do you have children, and are they interested? Some of mine are. I was born and raised in Toronto, but live in Sask for 42 years - where were you from? My cousins John and Carol have met some of the family and John says he has tons of info, he even checked some stuff out when he went to England. He is photocopying it all and will send it to me by mail. Don't know if we can give our email or phone out on this website?? New to this stuff! Also, I'm kind of cheap and didn't want to pay to get on ancestory.ca but maybe I should break down and do it! Talk later? Jane
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We're probably part of the family that nobody has ever talked to or knows exists.
My dad's name is Paul and his grandparents (Sarah and William above) passed away before he was born. By that time, his parents had moved to a place called Brownsville, near Tilsonburg Ontario. Apparently Sarah and William were the only real connection to the rest of the family so my dad knew nothing of anyone outside his Aunt, Uncle, brother and Parents: Reginald White and Mildred Kelly.
I knew even less because my grandparents, aunt and uncle had all passed away before I was three. I only had 3 cousins, 2 of which were adopted. My uncle took off years ago and hasn't contacted anyone since.
On my mom's side of the family, we're the only members that aren't in England and all of her aunts, uncles and parents have passed away and she came to Canada when she was 4 so she never got to know her cousins. So we've never had any connection to her side.
Not really knowing any of my relatives is what prompted me to start searching. I was very surprised to find out how many relatives I may have just in Toronto from the Wakelin line.
My name is Matthew, I was born in Barrie, Ontario. I'm sure when you last lived in Toronto, Barrie was a whole lot of nothing. It's a very different place now.
I can gladly give you my email once I figure out how to send messages on here.
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Kularanini:
Do you have a family tree in ancestry.ca? Why I am asking is there is a White Family Tree. I am also on ancestry.ca "Goodbody / Wakelin Family Tree"
If you would like to check out this family tree be my guest.
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Hi Need the Sun,
I too am a Henley Wakelin, now living in Scotland, via Toronto.
Alfred James, my great grandfather, was Charles Newton's brother (one of many!)
Alfred James married Maria Theobald at Remenham Church, Oxfordshire in 1898. I believe they emmigrated to Canada in 1905. They had 6 children, of which I remember 3, as the remaining 3 had died prior to my birth, including my grandfather Edgar Arthur. He only had one child, my mother, so that was the end of the Wakelin name on her side.
My parents emmigrated to England in the 1970's from Toronto and my brother and myself remain in the UK.
My mother, who died in 2004, always told me that we were related to Isaac Newton. The closest I have found is my GGG grandmother who was called Mary Newton born about 1811 in Brill, Buckinghamshire. Not found anything prior to this
Dear Maple9:
My grandfather Charles Newton Wakelin (born Sept 15, 1882West Hill Henley) was one of Benjamin's brothers I believe. I got info from my dad (born Raymond Charles Wakelin 1908 Toronto, Canada). My dad said there were 5 boys (Alfred, William, Charles, Benjamin, George) and 8 girls, 4 of whom came to Canada. He knew those girls names and who they married etc. I have some of that info. I'm pretty sure that its the same family because my dad said that he knew his grandfather James and his grandma Eliza when they came to Canada late in life. And I just found out from your post that they died in Toronto in 1927 - didn't know that.
Would love to keep in touch and fill in some blanks and questions I have. We have 7 children ourselves and some of them are interested in the Wakelin side and two of them are going to England this summer on vacation and are wanting to see Henley-on-Thames. In 1903 Charles married a girl (Kate Clements) who was born in the Jolly Waterman in Henley-on-Thames in 1879.
Would love to touch base with you and any one else that has information before that time. I was always told that Sir Issac Newton's mother was a Wakelin - does anybody have info on that?
Although I was born and raised in Toronto, I have lived in Saskatchewan for over 40 years.
I'm just new to this search so any info would be appreciated. Thank you!
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I am part of the Walklin family and will see if there is ay knowledge of them in Henley...Mostly we are in Kent. I am new to this so would appreciate it if anyone knows much of the Walklin family in 1800s. Thank you
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I didn't know the family was also in Kent. It will be great to hear more of the family. I have a family tree on ancestry.ca "Goodbody/Wakelin" if you would like to check it out.
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Hi I'm looking for Martha Walkling, she lived in Teddington Middlesex but was born in Henley-on-Thames. Her father is a Thomas Walkling but I haven't found any documentation to prove this and I've no idea who her mother is. ???
On another note I was reading the earlier posts and someone mentioned Frances Walkling marrying a Wheeler of Richmond, and there was a Granny Wheeler in my family but no one knows how she's related. Is it possible that Frances Walkling was sister to Martha?
Does anyone have any ideas of where to look - I've searched BMD and census's and done random web searches and found nothing except this forum?
Any help appreciated.
:)
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As far as I know at the moment I don't have anyone in my family tree with these names but you never know what the future will unfold.
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Hi
My family line goes up on the HILL family to Mahershalahashbaz HILL who married Sarah Waklin. Another family member mentioned he was named after his wife (Sarah's) father/grandfather. Nice to make the connection:)
~ Andrea
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Greetings from the states. I am a descendant of Mary Walklin child of Hiram Child of James child of Robert from Kent. James came to Illinois in the 1800s and then my line came to Indian Territory now Oklahoma where we intermarried with the Cherokees and are still here today.