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Title: Help deciphering plaque please Completed
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 19 June 08 16:21 BST (UK)
See how I think of you, even when I'm out photographing my old school.

This stone is 20ft up in the wall
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: elin on Thursday 19 June 08 16:30 BST (UK)
It's not in English!  >:(   

Gis a chance

El
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 19 June 08 16:32 BST (UK)
So theres a challenge - we then have to translate it -  Ho Ho I'm wicked.
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: yattonharry on Thursday 19 June 08 16:33 BST (UK)
Looks good Paula, although Ann could not have been 53, not sure if I said, as she had died just after giving birth to her daughter who dies a few days later.  I guess she was 33 years old.

Well you know, I have learnt a load from this exercise, not only getting the ages more or less correct but because today I managed to look at the Parish Register for their marriage. Now so far I had two Thomas MUNTs both both in different places in the same year. Both had brother's William. They are possibly all the same family.

NOW the Parish Register which I thought would not yeild any more clues actually says 1758 Jan24th Marriage Thomas MUNT born BOXFORD, Berkshire = to xAnn Thatcher by Lic.

Well now I am off hunting the parish regs of Boxford!!

Thanks to you all for your interest and helping in my continuation of the history of Thomas Munt.

Harry
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: yattonharry on Thursday 19 June 08 16:42 BST (UK)
Not sure of the full date - I'll do the easy part  8)

MDCCXXXIII  - 1733 - I am not really certain it is III at end though. So 173- ?

Harry
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 19 June 08 16:53 BST (UK)
I put 53 in hope, Harry....

Oh that's rotten, I was hoping it was XXXX and it's only three not four.... ;)
pretty sure it's 3xI though

If it's Latin I don't go much further than Dum Spiro Spero, I'm afraid...
If it's French..... ???
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: yattonharry on Thursday 19 June 08 17:08 BST (UK)
I'm hopeless too   ???  -- hehe that's why I did the date.  ;)
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: Rabbit B on Thursday 19 June 08 17:23 BST (UK)
Hi Gang,

Just making my mark X  I am only the Critic remember!

Rabbit B  ;)
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: yattonharry on Thursday 19 June 08 17:29 BST (UK)
Elin you have us foxed - well except for Emjaybee, who come to think of it hasn't replied to my message re milk or not bread rolls/buns.

Harry
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 19 June 08 17:31 BST (UK)
Glad you found us Rabbit, where would we be without you to keep us on our toes...?
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 19 June 08 17:47 BST (UK)
The buns are white bread.

I found
NICHOLAO LECHMERE Baronet

towards the bottom

I see III so it 3
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: elin on Thursday 19 June 08 18:05 BST (UK)
I see xxx too. 
Strangely on the second line I see elin------------------ROOKE AM  ------.

Delusions of granduer probably.  ::)  I see don't see any bread rolls. What do they have to do with anything?  Must have missed something.

El


Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: elin on Thursday 19 June 08 18:06 BST (UK)
Mike,  how did you manage to photograph at that height?
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 19 June 08 18:07 BST (UK)
I have a telephoto lens so could stand well back.

Who missed the bread pciture on the last thread then?
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 19 June 08 18:16 BST (UK)
I thought I could see LROOKE   A M
                             L                           D
                             MDCXXXIII
                                   H
            HOLAO         LECHMERE              B

                                A                             Nej
                                     H

All this talk of bread rolls reminds me...tea time...back later....
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: mosiefish on Thursday 19 June 08 18:32 BST (UK)
Owwww!  You beat me to "Nicholas Lechmere Baron", whilst I was just reading up on the school!!! ;D ;D  - apparently it was restored in 1733 so that must be correct.

Mo.

Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 19 June 08 18:58 BST (UK)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/wrinkly_towers/schoolhcgscopy.jpg)
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: elin on Thursday 19 June 08 19:46 BST (UK)
Excellent work that man! :)

I found the buns, they look delicious!

Elin
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 19 June 08 19:59 BST (UK)
E MU just under the B of Baronet ?

Blimey Yvonne's Emu has invaded us!  :o
Title: Re: Graveyard Gang go to school
Post by: Rabbit B on Thursday 19 June 08 20:12 BST (UK)
Hi Gang,

I am just doing something for my technician, sorry about that Norton have been setting up my new security!  It has been slowing me down and now I am faster than ever and exhausted!  All that brainwork!

See you all later!  So sorry to do that but it is this site that it has been slowing down!

Rabbit B ;D
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: yattonharry on Thursday 19 June 08 22:02 BST (UK)
Congrats MJB clever chap!
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 19 June 08 22:38 BST (UK)
I see out title has been changed from the "Graveyardgang go back to school" to "Help deciphering this plaque please."

I take it we are persona non grata!  Pity we were not told.
Title: Graveyard Gang go back to school
Post by: yattonharry on Thursday 19 June 08 22:46 BST (UK)
Not me MJB - in fact I have changed the subject back again - especially for you-oh!
Title: Graveyard Gang go back to School
Post by: Rabbit B on Thursday 19 June 08 22:56 BST (UK)
Hi Harry,

No disrespect MJB, but I think it is a brilliant plaque, hang on in there all is not yet decided!    :o

I have endorsed Harry's Title too  ::)

Where has your spirit gone?  have you had a bad day too?

Rabbit B  ;D
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Woodentop50 on Thursday 19 June 08 22:58 BST (UK)
Hello Emjay,

You could ask in the school , maybe somebody has knowledge of the sign.

(then again , back to reality)  ;D

                                                                                                             Jim
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: yattonharry on Thursday 19 June 08 23:05 BST (UK)
Good idea, why do work that has been done already?  There is SO much out there to be done too.  Maybe I could go and snap some stones I have not yet transcribed and you could work on them and do a churchyard in a year? ;-))

Rabbit said Where has your spirit gone?  have you had a bad day too?

Nah Rabs it is all that dough that has got to him.  He'll be ok in the morning when the yeast has refreshed him again and he'll be as bright as a new spark then.
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 19 June 08 23:15 BST (UK)
Does anyone know what the Latin tag across the top says....?

....and how dare they mess with the Graveyard Gang!
Title: Graveyard Gang goes back to School
Post by: Rabbit B on Thursday 19 June 08 23:46 BST (UK)
Hi Jim,

Nice to see you on our thread, welcome to the Graveyard Gang!

Poor MJB must be very tired he has worked so hard on this!  How about giving him a group hug! <hug>  cannot get the icon to post!  Paula Help!

I have a site that will translate every European language to English, I will go a way and google to see if there is one that does Latin!

Can't have our team leader getting despondent!  Let us make up a song! 

We are the boys and girls well known as workers at the GGT, and every day all fresh we line up to see the pics we like and shout aloud with glee,
we like to laugh and have a sing song, just a happy crowd are wee-ee
we're so very happy we are the G of MJB
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Apologies to the Minors of a well known film going community of the 40's!

If you were one of them you will know the tune

Rabbit B  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Woodentop50 on Thursday 19 June 08 23:48 BST (UK)
The first word looks 'Duc'

The third maybe 'Patria'  (patriotic)  ?

I can't make out the second word.

                                                   Jim
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: waiteohman on Friday 20 June 08 00:01 BST (UK)
I think I see  S...ptus
Linda
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: PaulaToo on Friday 20 June 08 00:16 BST (UK)
Is the middle word AMORA

nuff for tonight...see you all tomorrow...

Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: waiteohman on Friday 20 June 08 00:58 BST (UK)
Looking him up I find he is the Baron of Evesham. Looking now the line after Baron could be:

<?> Evesham

He died in 1727 which would be MDCCXXVII

looks like Juno on line above year and 18 might be duodeviginti. Could duodeviginti end in o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Lechmere,_1st_Baron_Lechmere
http://www.accuracyproject.org/romannumerals.html
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Joyful on Friday 20 June 08 08:08 BST (UK)
Hi Gang
I haven't got much and what I do have I'm not sure of

Duc         Amora         Patria

N                                                       iu  ay
e   a     Brooke AM

       Lax              to

       MDCCXXX111
         pri     x   nium
bo         Honi            D                             o
Nicholas Lechmere Baronet

mu        imi  rear         jus Ne       e
              ildrr

It doesn't make sense all these stray letters - I can clearly see 'j's' but there were no j's I don't think, unless it's not all in latin?

Joy
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: dimmell123 on Friday 20 June 08 08:51 BST (UK)
Hi GG
My brother Bob (LBobble on here) and I were following the Graveyard Gang main thread with excitement and great interest. It seemed the most creative and innovative development in the Restoration site in recent times. So I was sad to see it locked on Wednesday - just as I was getting ready to post up a couple of sarcophagi (is that the correct plural???)) of our ancestors  one of which is a bit of a challenge.
Can I ask if this thread is a replacement and if I may post them here?
David
ps that's another way of asking if I can join the gang????
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 20 June 08 09:09 BST (UK)
I still  want to know who changed the title and why.

The next post answers that and SHOUTED AT US TOO!

As so scalled TL consider the graveyard project abandoned.

It could have worked, we seem to have uused the wrong approach.
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Friday 20 June 08 09:11 BST (UK)
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I still  want to know who changed the title and why.

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Nice to see you on our thread, welcome to the Graveyard Gang!
[...]
We are the boys and girls well known as workers at the GGT, and every day all fresh we line up to see the pics we like and shout aloud with glee,
we like to laugh and have a sing song, just a happy crowd are wee-ee
we're so very happy we are the G of MJB

May I just point out, that there are no "gangs" on RootsChat.

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Can I ask if this thread is a replacement and if I may post them here?
This thread is not a replacement, simply a new request for help.

If anybody needs help deciphering, be it a will, a gravestone, a plaque or a certificate, then

    Just post a new topic on the appropriate board, asking for help.

There is no need to ask whether you can "join in", if you are a member of RootsChat, you are already "in"  :)

Bob
For the RootsChat Team
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 20 June 08 09:21 BST (UK)
The YTG (Yellow Tail Gang) some penicillin
The YTG whingin Poms
The YTG scvenger hunt
The YTG Totally addicted
The YTG say it again Sam
The YTG if you could


etc etc etc
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Friday 20 June 08 09:23 BST (UK)
Off-Topic is off topic, all other boards are public.
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 20 June 08 09:29 BST (UK)
Accepted Bob, pity Pru didnt advise us before the so called negotiations were set up.

It was never the intention of ganging up, we were marking time for an answer from Pru to set up a proper place for tombstone research.

I do of course course accept your advice.

I will take no further part in this project, I cannot speak for the others.

Mike



Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: dimmell123 on Friday 20 June 08 09:34 BST (UK)
Oh dear Berlin-Bob - so sorry. I should have made it much more obvious that I had my tongue well and truly in my cheek! I am very happy with the forum's protocols and was merely having a bit of fun with the word 'gang'.
David
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: PrueM on Friday 20 June 08 10:09 BST (UK)
Quote from: Emjaybee on Friday 20 June 08 09:29 BST (UK)
Accepted Bob, pity Pru didnt advise us before the so called negotiations were set up.

Sorry Mike, I modified the topic title and was then called away (I was at work) and wasn't able to get back online till tonight  :-\  My apologies.
Not sure what you mean about "didn't advise you before the negotiations were set up"  ???  I've been in constant contact with RabbitB about the gravestone/inscription deciphering project and how best to set it up as a "regular feature".

I don't have an answer for you yet about how we are going to set it up (waiting for Admin, i.e. Trystan, to give us his opinion) so am of course happy for you to all continue helping out as you are doing.  The only thing I would stress is that we really don't want to make it seem like an exclusive club.  Using the term "gang" does give that impression to some people so I would ask that future threads are titled using the normal 'protocols", i.e. "help deciphering inscription" or some such.

Prue
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 20 June 08 10:26 BST (UK)
Pru

I see the prolific posts of the Yellow Tail Gang are off topic, maybe we should have been told to post there untill something proper could be agreed. Thus the temporary title gang might not have gone against RC rules.

I apologise if my comment seemed a slight on your input, which has at all times been very helpfull.

Mike

Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Rabbit B on Friday 20 June 08 11:07 BST (UK)
Quote from: Berlin-Bob on Friday 20 June 08 09:11 BST (UK)
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I still  want to know who changed the title and why.

Quote
Nice to see you on our thread, welcome to the Graveyard Gang!
[...]
We are the boys and girls well known as workers at the GGT, and every day all fresh we line up to see the pics we like and shout aloud with glee,
we like to laugh and have a sing song, just a happy crowd are wee-ee
we're so very happy we are the G of MJB

May I just point out, that there are no "gangs" on RootsChat.

Quote
Can I ask if this thread is a replacement and if I may post them here?
This thread is not a replacement, simply a new request for help.

If anybody needs help deciphering, be it a will, a gravestone, a plaque or a certificate, then

    Just post a new topic on the appropriate board, asking for help.

There is no need to ask whether you can "join in", if you are a member of RootsChat, you are already "in"  :)

Bob
For the RootsChat Team

Hi Bob,

I think that I must hold up my hands and get them slapped for everything, blame me please, it is all my fault!

I would never never presume to put my foot in it on purpose!  We never intended to try and be anything other than a Team!

Our Moderator has been kept fully informed of our doings and I would like to think that you will see what we have been trying to do here

Please accept my apologies for the silly song!  It was very childish.

I had already apologised to Prue that we were off topic because we needed to practice our skills on these stones, it is a serious topic and a little light conversation helps us along

Thank you for having told me that you disapprove.  I welcome any suggestions especially yours.

Rabbit B  :-[    ;D



Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: PaulaToo on Friday 20 June 08 13:24 BST (UK)
Forget the waffle, let's get on with what we are good at, deciphering gravestones/plaques etc.
Title: Re: Help deciphering plaque please
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 20 June 08 17:56 BST (UK)
Lets just put and end to this string. It does not advance your cause.