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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: harrietmont on Saturday 21 June 08 18:15 BST (UK)
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Hi
I'm trying to find Sarah Ann Strickland who gives her d.o.b.as c1870 in Newton Lancs but who was christened in 1871 in Sheffield.
Her parents John and Elizabeth[Calvert] Strickland were married in Manchester Parish Church and lived in the Ancoats area of Manchester.
I cant find this family at all on either the 1861 or 1871 Census for Lancs or Yorks.
I would appreciate any ideas of where to look next.
Thank you
Harrietmont
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Okay, Just when & where do you find her?
What are the FULL details from that source, including associates/family?
Pauline
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Newton could be Newton in Makerfield which was near Haydock. I'm not sure but I think it was what we now know as Newton Le Willows
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Several Newtons in Lancs but if they were in Ancoats, it might be Newton Heath (sometimes written down as just Newton) which was close by. Newton Heath was a big railway/engineering place, if that fits for employment history.
Free bmds have a Sarah Ann Strickland registered in (but not necessarily born in) Sheffield, 2nd quarter 1870 - is that the one?
:) Barbara
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I take it that the family are the ones in Attercliffe in 1881 (RG11/4665 fol 41 pg 75).
If so there seems to be quite a gap between Elizabeth (16) and Sarah Ann (11). Might this be a second marriage? It might be worth getting Job's birth certificate to get Elizabeth's maiden name. He seems to be registered in Sheffield - Q2 of 1873, vol9c pg525.
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Hello Everyone
Thank you all for your input.I will fill in the information I have.Sarah Ann's father was John Strickland married Elizabeth Calvert Dec 1853 at
Cath& Parish Church Manchester
Occupation: Dresser
Address 24 Mount St Ancoats
Father: John Strickland Spinner.
Cant find anything after this until the 1881 Census RG11/4665 Attercliffe[Sheffield]
Children
John George[23] Manchester
Elizabeth[16] "
Sarah Ann[11] "
David [9] Sheffield
Job[7] "
I think with the large gaps in the childrens ages that many might have died.
In the 1891 Census Sarah is now married to Frank Cooper with daughters Eleanor and Sarah E but still living with her parents John and Elizabeth.
RG12/3837
This is the Census that states Sarah Ann was born in Newton Manchester
Its a very elusive family,I thought I'd found John b.c1833 in Manchester in the 1841 1851 and 1861 Census but this one was a Mechanic and married a Mary Ann.So up a wrong tree again.
I hope these extra details will help and thank you all for taking the time to look for me
Harrietmont
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Newton near to Haydock, St Helens is Newton le Willows.
There is also Newton Heath near Manchester which could be a possibility.
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Harrietmont
Look here for Newton, there is one for Manchester District (which I think is what you are looking to confirm) and there are the 2 from the above post.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/manchester.html
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/newton.html
Hope this helps
Debbie
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The sub registeration district for Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, happens to be Newton.
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Although it seems we're looking at Manchester here, I just thought I'd point out that there are at least two other Newtons in Lancashire too.
Newton with Scales, near Kirkham
Newton in Bowland (though probably that was Yorkshire then)
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there's also Newton hyde - perhpas Cheshire then but Newton (Heath) is just up the road from Ancoats.
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Here's a possibility - would appreciate a second opinion
Shackleton
1861 RG9; Piece: 2873; Folio: 94; Page: 20
Thurza (?) Street Openshaw
John Shackleton (looks like Strickleton?) head married 28 yrs labourer b Manchester
Elizabeth S**ckleton wife 27 yrs b Manchester
John G 3 yrs b manchester
Margaret 1 month b Droylsden
still close enough to Ancoats/Newton Heath
there are a couple of Margaret Strickland births
best wishes
heywood
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Hello Heywood
This seems so promising for the 1861 Census.There was a rumour that the family were called Strickleton so it looks exciting.
I'm out for the day but cant wait to persue further
Thank you so much
harrietmont
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hope we're not completely on the wrong track here :-\
1851 HO107; Piece: 2226; Folio: 635; Page: 46
street has been crossed but could be Taine (?) St or similar but is in the area of Ancoats
John Strickleton 17 yrs with a mother Margaret 60 yrs and he is a carter
but ::)
1841 HO107; Piece 577; Book: 21; Folio: 34; Page: 9
has a John Strickland 8yrs with a Hannah aged 50 yrs- presumably mother. Ashton St Ancoats - not that far away from the other one :-\
but ::)
1841 HO107; Piece 577; Book: 25; Folio: 22; Page: 3
Tame Street ( as earlier) - transcribed as Stickland
John Strickland 50 yrs cotton spinner
margaret 50 yrs
Margaret 12 yrs
John 7 yrs
all born county
which fits in with the 1851 John with mother Margaret.
getting even better but still keep a bit of caution ;)
Family Search IGi has a baptism for John Strickland or Strickleton 1833 Manchester Cathedral- parents John and Margaret. (from church records)
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Hi Heywood
This all looks so promising.I'm not so sure about Hannah being Johns Mother but the other 1841 and 1851 Census looks very promising.
I have a copy of a Baptism Manchester Parish Church Aug 1833 of John son of John and Margaret Strickland.Under this it says something which could be "otherwise" Strickleton.The father John is a Spinner
John b 1833 marries Elizabeth Calvert 1853 Occ Dresser and at his son John George's baptism 1857[all at Manchester Cathedral] he is a Dyer.
It seems the family exchanged the hell holes of the Manchester Textile Industry for the hell holes of the Sheffield Steel Works and associated industries.
I've still a lo of checking to do but I do thank you so much for finding this information for me.
Best Wishes
Harrietmont
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it's a pleasure- the findings fit in with your baptism certificates etc but whether they are the people you want ??? ???
best wishes
heywood