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Title: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Monday 23 June 08 11:06 BST (UK)
while doing research, i came across annie/anne candlish on a headstone for ann kinghorn and roderick mclean at rookwood cemetery
all i could make out on was annie candlish at the top . i looked up nsw bdm's and all  i could come across for annie candlish died 1928, and parents roderrick and nancy, new lambton , is this the same person and the same family for roderick and anne kinghorn, i have no information except this
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 23 June 08 11:14 BST (UK)
Hello  there JAckeroo

Now  Nancy  is an excepted short name for Annie.  Do you know  if Annie Kinghorn was also called Nancy?

Now a quick look  at  the NSW on  lin BDM shows an Annie McLean Marrying a John Candlish in Organ  which  ties in  with your family  history  Orange  that is.


regards Jenn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Monday 23 June 08 11:25 BST (UK)
no i did not realise nancy was the same as annie or ann, nor did i know if anne kinghorn was ever called nancy, i just found the headstone at rookwood with this on , and ann kinghorn and roderick mclean,
so i presume she was buried with parents ann and roderick,
also o it it had a john george griffith so he could be connected as well, but of him i know nothing
ann kinghorn was the sister of my husbands great grandfather james kinghorn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 23 June 08 11:29 BST (UK)
So  then  Jackeroo  did Roderick McLean have a sister called Annie?

seems  the  most like scenario  but  how ever only a certificate would  define the facts.

Did you  note a date of death for John George Griffith please

regards JEnn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Monday 23 June 08 11:32 BST (UK)
can i email the photo to you
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 23 June 08 11:35 BST (UK)
Do  you  know how  to  post  it  to  the  board  here ?

see below it says attach a photograph

if  not  yes email  away

regards JEnn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Monday 23 June 08 11:40 BST (UK)
annie or ann could have been the daughter of abraham and harriet clarinda mclean, i found a birth for an annie or ann in 1872 orange , abraham was the son of ann and roderick mclean there was also an anne born in 1844 to ann and roderick mclean in orange, confusing
i do not know how to post photo's.
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 23 June 08 11:43 BST (UK)
Not  really  Jackeroo as  John Candlish  married Annie McLean in 1887  at Orange ;)

regards Jenn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Monday 23 June 08 11:46 BST (UK)
well i am none the wiser, as to who this person is,
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: andycand on Monday 23 June 08 12:04 BST (UK)
Hi

On the NSW Historical Indexes there is an Anne Mclean born 1844, father Roderick, mother Anne

As tropicalj said an Annie Mclean married John Candlish in 1877

and Annie Candlish died 1928 -  father Roderick, mother Nancy

I think this may be the same person.  When was James Kinghorn born? This could give an indication of the timeline for Roderick Mclean & Ann Kinghorn

Andy





Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Monday 23 June 08 12:09 BST (UK)
james kinghorn was born in inverness, scotland to abraham and margaret (mcnab) there was william born in 1813 the oldest, james , anne/ann and betsey or elizabeth all born in scotland they emigrated in 1837 all but william and the father abraham, must have died, i am not sure when james was born, but he married before he came out, in strath inverness,  ann married roderick mclean in 1824 in strath inverness and had 4 children before they came out
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 23 June 08 12:18 BST (UK)
Did Roderick and Ann McLean  have a daughter called Anne/Annie?

regards Jenn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: andycand on Monday 23 June 08 12:19 BST (UK)
Hi
Have you found a passenger list for the Kinghorn family? It would be interesting to see if Ann married Roderick Mclean before migrating but either way they could have had a child in 1844. The best bet would be to get the death certificate for Annie Candlish.

Andy
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Monday 23 June 08 20:41 BST (UK)
yes i have the diary of their trip on the william nichol in 1837, i am waiting for it to be return to me so i can check on dates, i am pretty sure they had a daughter called ann or annie
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: terra on Tuesday 24 June 08 08:28 BST (UK)
A link to a little information on the William Nichol and the trip in 1837 to Port Jackson.
http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/chrissiw/web/extras/ships.html

Scroll down the page.
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: terra on Tuesday 24 June 08 08:40 BST (UK)
This may be of interest

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03p9/
ShipWilliam Nicol   
MCLEAN   Roderick   Age 35    Date 27/10/1837   Reel 2654   13   [4/4780]   Married; shepherd; and family   NRS 531

Unfortunately no children named.
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Tuesday 24 June 08 09:43 BST (UK)
thank you very much, it makes interesting reading,
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: Cazay on Tuesday 24 June 08 12:52 BST (UK)
According to the Rookwood cd the following people are buried in the same plot, a little more confusion no doubt

Jessie Annie G/Candlish d. 24 Feb 1880  dau of John and Annie Candlish b. 25 Apr 1879, headstone fallen iron rail surround

Roderick McLean d. 17 Sep 1889 95y died at Glentarkie Concord

Anne Kinghorn d. 23 Apr 1894 86y Widow of above. Died at Glentarkie

Charles McLean d. 19 June 1894 45y Son of above. Died at Glentarkie

John George Griffiths d. 12 Nov 1887 66y Died at Concord

Lucy Maria Griffiths d. 23 July 1908 b. 18 Apr 1821

A K Boyd d. 26 May 1910

Old Presbyterian Sec 4a Row 26 Grave 3414

Also, a couple of Candlish entries, could be connected
Margaret Charlotte Candlish  d. 16 Apr 1889 53y - Daughter of the late Rev R S Candlish D.D. Free St Georges, Edinburgh. Died at Glentarkie Concord

John Candlish d. 20 Nov 1913 66y - Youngest son of above, died at Silvawood, Cowra
Pres Sec 6D part 3 Row 9 Grave 6067, 6069

Cazay
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 24 June 08 21:57 BST (UK)
Well  done Cazay  I  could  not  read  the  headstone at all.

The A K  Boyd  appears  to be

birth
V1849276 50/1849  BOYD  ABRAHAM K  father JAMES  mother
BETSY 

death
6996/1910  BOYD  ABRAHAM K father  JAMES   no mother listed at   RYDE   

will  have  to investigate  further  as  to  how  he tis in  with  the McLean/ Kinghorn familiy.

Jackeroo,  do  you  have  him  in  your  family  tree allready?

regards Jenn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Tuesday 24 June 08 22:18 BST (UK)
there are some abraham's,
abraham son of james kinghorn and isabella(campbell) born in australia
abraham son of roderick and ann mclean
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Tuesday 24 June 08 22:22 BST (UK)
there are some abraham's,
abraham son of james kinghorn and isabella(campbell) born in australia
abraham son of roderick and ann mclean
abraham boyd son of james could be for mother, betsey(kinghorn, she married a boyd, sister of james and ann) as my husbands father is john james boyd kinghorn, probably after the boyd,
abraham father of ann, james, and betsey do not know when he died in scotland, that is why he did not come out,
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 24 June 08 23:16 BST (UK)
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abraham boyd son of james could be for mother, betsey(kinghorn, she married a boyd, sister of james and ann) as my husbands father is john james boyd kinghorn, probably after the boyd

Well  there you go Jackeroo  that  is  who  the  A K  BOYD  is

regards Jenn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Tuesday 24 June 08 23:20 BST (UK)
thanks , my husbands father never would say if they were visiting people, that they were related,  so he would never know who was related and who was not
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: andycand on Wednesday 25 June 08 04:01 BST (UK)
Hi

Quote
Also, a couple of Candlish entries, could be connected
Margaret Charlotte Candlish  d. 16 Apr 1889 53y - Daughter of the late Rev R S Candlish D.D. Free St Georges, Edinburgh. Died at Glentarkie Concord

John Candlish d. 20 Nov 1913 66y - Youngest son of above, died at Silvawood, Cowra
Pres Sec 6D part 3 Row 9 Grave 6067, 6069

I think you will find that the Rev R S Candlish D.D. is Robert Smith Candlish one of the leaders of the Free Church in Scotland. If you google his name you will find a wealth of information about him including Bios.

A check of the marriage certificate between John Candlish & Annie McLean should confirm whether his parents are Robert Smith Candlish and Jessie Brock.

Andy
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Wednesday 25 June 08 05:50 BST (UK)
Andy

you  could be  on  to  something  there as  the couple  John Canlish and Annie Mclean  followed  tradition and named one of  their sons Robert Smith Candlish

Jenn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: tropicalj on Wednesday 25 June 08 10:05 BST (UK)
further on  to  Robert Smith Candlish  the son of  John Candlish and Annie McLean

he did very well  for  himself

1930 Electoral Roll  Adamstown Newcastle

Lucy Candlish Glentarkie Brett Street New Lampton  Home Duties
Rober Smith Candlish                                                 medical Practitioner

1936 at Newcastle

Marie Elaine Candlish 1 Cliff Street Newcastle  home duties
Robert smith Candlish                                       Opthalmic Surgeon

Deaths

19927/1930  CANDLISH  LUCY  father JOHN mother   FRANCES  at NEW LAMBTON

32438/1962  CANDLISH  ROBERT SMITH  father JOHN mother  ANNE at  CHATSWOOD


regards Jenn
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: JACKEROO on Wednesday 25 June 08 10:12 BST (UK)
thank you, i googled robert smith candlish, very interesting reading on him,( i was just looking up boyd on the nsw bdms )they seemed to have done very well for themselves t he candlish family,
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: littlesparrow on Friday 30 June 17 10:56 BST (UK)
Hi Ann Candlish is a ancestor of mine I would like to make contact with anyone else.
Title: Re: who is annie/ann candlish
Post by: majm on Saturday 01 July 17 03:28 BST (UK)
Hi there,

Jackeroo has not been online for a long time, but perhaps you could consider contacting RChatter 'dee king' whose profile I am linking here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=184920

JM