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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: hbaid on Sunday 23 January 05 16:57 GMT (UK)
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I'm researching the following family names from Lavenham, Suffolk if anyone has any interest or information:
Lingley/Lindley/Linley
Finch
Woodgate
Hamilton
Day
Brewer
Snell
Somerset
Carter
Woodgate
Heather
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Have you tried the Cosford database ? Go to www.cosford-database.co.uk and click on Lavenham in the village section. I managed to go back 2 generations of my Lavenham ancestors from the site.
My own Lavenham ancestors are mainly Rogers and Turner.
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Hi
I have the following Snells from Lavenham (where I have not specified birthplace, it is Lavenham):
Thomas Snell (c.1792 - 1838) X Margaret Church (1768 - 1820)
Child of Thomas and Margaret:
John Snell (1792 - 1849) X Elizabeth Risby (1787 - 1857)
Children of John and Elizabeth:
John Snell (1819 - 1846) X Louisa Lorkin* (c1822 Clare)
Thomas Snell (b. 1824) X Louisa Lorkin* (c. 1822 Clare)
Charlotte Snell (1825 - 1855) X ? (unmarried)
William Snell (1828) X Ann Elliston (1835)
Children of John and Louisa:
Ann (1840) X Joseph Knock
Harriet (1842) X George E Atkinson, William Smith
Charlotte (1844 - 1845)
John Lorking Snell (1846)
*When John died, Louisa "took up" with his brother, Thomas. In those days, it was illegal to marry your brother's wife.
Children of Thomas and Louisa:
Charlotte (1850) - my ggg grandmother X William George Towell (1843, Shoreditch)
Thomas (1852)
William (1854)
Elizabeth (1857)
James (1859) X Lydia ? (c1859), Harriet Beadle (c1860, Erith Kent)
Arthur (1862 - 1863)
Mary Ann (1864)
Child of Charlotte Snell:
William Snell (1852 - 1856)
Children of William and Ann:
William Thomas (1859 - bef. 1867?)
Susannah (1860)
Elizabeth Ann (1863)
William Thomas (1867 - 1873)
George (1870)
Sarah Ann (1873)
Ethel Snell (c. 1882 North Woolwich, Kent)
By the 1881 Census, most of the extended family were in the vicinity of North Woolwich.
If you think you are connected with any of the above, let me know and I'll add the rest. I also have some family for Margaret Church, Elizabeth Risby, Ann Elliston, William Towell and Harriet Beadle.
I have found the Cosford database to be invaluable.
Deborah
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I'm researching the following family names from Lavenham, Suffolk if anyone has any interest or information:
Lingley/Lindley/Linley
Finch
Woodgate
Hamilton
Day
Brewer
Snell
Somerset
Carter
Woodgate
Heather
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I am also researching snells of Lavenham. my 3 x gt grand father james snell was born in lavenham. He was a shoemaker
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Can I just remind everyone that Ray Long who compiled the Cosford-Database passed away last month.
He was my web-partner at Suffolk Surnames.
The family have left the website on line at the moment whilst they decide what will happen to the Cosford-Database.
Please - no queries or questions on Ray's email address, but I will try to deal with any if I can - I live a couple of miles from Lavenham and have 37 years experience of research in the county.
I will be driving to Lavenham shortly to do some shopping ;D
Pat ...
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I am descended from the Day family, and the Lingleys are also from the same ancestors. I also have Snell ancestors from Lavenham. Would be happy to pass on relevant details to you.
Regards, Steve
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I'd love to know more about my lavenham/Sudbury Snells. I seem to be stuck
I have John Martin Snell was born in Sudbury, Suffolk in England in 1836. He worked as a labourer. He married Annie Lucas on 5th June 1862 at the Presbyterian Church in Warrnambool, Australia His parents were James Snell (who was a farmer/labourer) and Harriet Elizabeth Eley.
James Snell was born in 1822/3 in England (probably Sudbury). He was a labourer. He died in Warrnambool in 1884. He married Harriet Elizabeth Eley. His father was also called James Snell
Other than this I have no details. I'd love more dates, ancestors and descendants if anyone can help, or details of the extended family living in Suffolk.
Also any details of when they emigrated/ships,etc as I've drawn a complete blank
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I'd love to know more about your Snell family as I've got stuck with mine in Lavenham/Sudbury
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Sorry Woolamai
I can't see a connection between your James and the Snells in Lavenham.
Best wishes, Steve
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I have John Martin Snell was born in Sudbury, Suffolk in England in 1836. He worked as a labourer. He married Annie Lucas on 5th June 1862 at the Presbyterian Church in Warrnambool, Australia His parents were James Snell (who was a farmer/labourer) and Harriet Elizabeth Eley.
James Snell was born in 1822/3 in England (probably Sudbury). He was a labourer. He died in Warrnambool in 1884. He married Harriet Elizabeth Eley. His father was also called James Snell
I think you need to re-evaluate your information. If James Snell was born in about 1822/3 he will not be the father of your John Martin Snell born 1836 because he would only be 13-14 years old and, apart from royalty, this really didn't happen. Either James' or John martin's birth years are wrong or James is going to be another relative.
If the information is from an Australian death certificates, its quite likely the informant was mistaken I'm afraid.
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Hello linscyclist,
I am descended from Joseph Snell, b 1753, through Joseph Snell, b 1788 and Sarah Snell, b 1816, all Lavenham born. If any of these are of interest to you.
Melfordgal.
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Hello Melfordgal
I am descended from the Snells and the Gridleys. It looks as though Joseph Snell b.1753 was the son of Joseph b.1725 Preston St.Mary and Ruth Gridley bap.1724 at Lavenham who were married at Lavenham in 1750.
I have a few earlier details of both families if they are of interest to you.
SteveB
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Hi SteveB,
Yes, thank you, would be very interested. I haven't got any further back than Joseph b 1725 & Ruth Gridley.
Also, I am descended through Sarah, b 1816, Mary Anne, b 1846 and Ruth, b 1869. Can't find fathers for Mary Anne or Ruth, or even a birth record for Ruth who, according to the census was born in Norwich. She was married to my g grandfather Harry Edward Mills in 1893, Long Melford. Any ideas?
According to the census Mary Anne married Albert Clover, but can't find any record of that either.
Any help gratefully received.
Melfordgal
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Hello Melfordgal
Sorry, I can't find any of your missing births or marriages either.
Here are the earlier Snells:-
William Snell m. Elizabeth. She was buried 1712. He was buried 1713. They had seven children.
1. William Snell b.1671.
2. Elizabeth Snell b.1673. She was buried 1679.
3. Mary Snell b.1675.
4. Susannah Snell b.1677.
5. Thomas Snell b.1683.
6. John Snell b.1686. He m. Sarah Lambert. They had eleven children.
6a. Thomas Snell b.c.1712. He was buried 1733 Preston St.Mary.
6b. Sarah Snell b.1713 Preston St.Mary.
6c. Susanna Snell b.1715 Preston St.Mary. She m. William Gridley. He was buried 1752. She was buried 1774. They had seven children.
6d. Deborah Snell b.1716 Preston St.Mary.
6e. John Snell b.1718 Preston St.Mary. He m. Martha Clarke. He was buried 1758 Preston St.Mary. She was buried 1800. They had a daughter.
6f. William Snell b.1721 Preston St.Mary.
6g. Joseph Snell b.and d.1724 Preston St.Mary.
6h. Joseph Snell b.1725 Preston St.Mary.
6i. Mary Snell b.1727 Preston St.Mary.
6j. Robert Snell b.1730 Preston St.Mary. He was buried 1733 Preston St.Mary.
6k. Elizabeth Snell b.1733 Preston St.Mary. She m. Thomas Levett. He was b.1740 Preston St.Mary. She was buried 1781 Preston St.Mary
7. Charles Snell b.1691. He m. Abigail. He was buried 1758. They had children.
Regards, SteveB
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Here are the earlier Gridleys.
Thomas Gridley b.c.1655. He m. Mary Gardner, 26th Oct 1680 at Gt.Waldingfield. They had nine children.
1. Thomas Gridley bap.1681 at Gt.Waldingfield.
2. Alice Gridley bap.1683 at Gt.Waldingfield.
3. Thomas Gridley bap.1684 at Gt.Waldingfield. He m. Anne Thurston, 1710 at Gt.Waldingfield.
4. William Gridley bap.29th Nov 1691 at Gt.Waldingfield. He m. Ruth Snell, 1714 at Lavenham. They had six children.
4a. John Gridley b.c.1716.
4b. William Gridley bap.1717 and buried 1717 at Lavenham.
4c. William Gridley bap.25th March 1718 at Lavenham. He m. Susannah Snell, 13th Aug 1738 at Preston St.Mary. He was buried 1752 at Preston St.Mary. They had seven children.
4d. Abraham Gridley bap.21st Oct 1722 at Lavenham. He d.1755.
4e. Ruth Gridley bap.10th Jan 1724 at Lavenham.
4f. Daniel Gridley bap.19th March 1727 at Lavenham. He m. Dorcas Jarmin. He d.1793. She was bap.19th May 1725 at Glemsford. She d.1802 at Glemsford. They had six children.
5. John Gridley b.c.1695 Lavenham. He m. Mary Hammond. They had three sons.
6. Mary Gridley b.1695 Long Melford.
7. Alice Gridley b.1699 Long Melford.
8. Elizabeth Gridley b.1700 Long Melford.
9. Abraham Gridley b.1702 Long Melford.
Regards, SteveB
ps Do you know who Harry Edward Mills parents were, as I have Mills relatives in the Melford area too!
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Hi SteveB,
Thanks for all the info. Brilliant. Thanks also for trying to track down the lost ones. I've been trying for years, but still hoping someone, somewhere will shed some light.
Harry Edward Mills mother was Susan (Susannah) Mills b 1845, actually in Pentlow. His father (on birth certificate but not parish records), was Thomas Bird b 1847 LM although Susan & Thomas never married. Susan's father was Henry Mills, b 1814 Acton. His father James b 1782, was actually born in Hull, although all his siblings and parents were from Lavenham.
Let me know if you require any further info.
Thanks for your help,
Melfordgal.
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This family is getting difficult to piece together. I have just found your Ruth Snell b.Norwich, aged 2 at Smaley Lane, Melford in 1871 Census with her mother, Mary, aged 25. The head of the usehold is Frank Snell, aged 27 (Mary's brother!!).
In 1851 Mary Ann, aged 5 is with her mother, Sarah (but her age is given as only 30) and Sarah is with William Howe, aged 32 (b.Glemsford), listed as his housekeeper with Mary Ann, 5 and a son, Thomas, aged 3 months.
In 1861 Sarah is listed as wife (but age 40) with William Howe and three children, Mary A, aged 15, Thomas, 10 and William, 5 (all listed as Howe).
If it is the same Sarah she is listed as Snell, aged 54 (a more accurate age) with her widowed mother, Ann in High Street, Lavenham. Sarah Snell aged 65 was living with William and Elizabeth Turner in High Street, Lavenham. Sarah was buried 1887 at Lavenham.
Can we be sure that the Sarah who is clearly your ancestor, is the same one who is back at Lavenham in 1871 and 1881?
Why can't I find Frank Snell before 1871 Census?
Regards, Steve
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Hi Melfordgal
I have just cracked the mystery, Francis (Frank) snell was bap. 21 Jan 1844 Long Melford to Sarah Snell. In 1851, aged 7 he was a visitor in the household of Elijah Otley and his hosekeeper, Susan Andrews, aged 54 (b.Lavenham). He was aged 17 and with the same people in 1861 Census, but described as grandson.
Looking at Ray Long's Cosford Database, there was a Susan Snell bap.23 Oct 1797 Lavenham who had a daughter, Sarah Snell, bap.2 July 1821 at Lavenham (which fits the age in 1851 and 1861 Censuses) Susan went on to marry James Andrews at Lavenham, 21 June 1824. Susan's parents were Thomas Snell and Margaret Church who were married in 1792 at Lavenham, and so far I haven't connected Thomas to my family of Snells.
So the Sarah bap.1816 is not your ancestor.
I found that Albert Clover's mother was a Harriet Raynham, who appears in my records, but we can't prove that Albert was Ruth's father, so Harriet may not be your actual ancestor.
Regards, Steve
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Hi Steve B,
Sorry for the long delay but haven't been able to spend time on my family tree for ages. I just wanted to thank you for all your help with the Snells of Lavenham. You were absolutely right, I was on the wrong track! Have now adjusted the tree to include Sarah Ann Snell b1821, mother Susan Snell b 1797, daughter to Thomas Snell b 1762.
Sadly haven't been able to get any further with the family, so if you know of any one else on this line, I'd be happy to chat to them.
Thanks again,
Melfordgal!!
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I have a lot of info on the risbys of Lavenham going back to 1667 which includes Snell and Day spouses l need to get further back if l can help anyone or they can help me please contact me