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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: jaq on Wednesday 04 February 04 18:44 GMT (UK)
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not sure if you have seen this, policeorders
http://63.254.226.27/A55D2D/podb.nsf/Menu!OpenPage (http://63.254.226.27/A55D2D/podb.nsf/Menu!OpenPage)
has database with over 500,000 unique entries ,and lots of info on serving police past and present
jaq
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In case you have MARINERS as ancestors, here is the link of the National Maritime Museum.
http://www.rmg.co.uk/national-maritime-museum
jaq
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If you are interested in Mining History then some of these links may be for you:
Mining History of Family Historians
http://projects.exeter.ac.uk/mhn (http://projects.exeter.ac.uk/mhn)
Welsh Mines Society
www.welshmines.org (http://www.welshmines.org)
South Wales Miners' Library for Heritage Research
http://www.swansea.ac.uk/iss/swml (http://www.swansea.ac.uk/iss/swml)
Children in the Coal Mines a report from 1842
http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/en/2191 (http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/en/2191)
Honister Slate Mine - Mining in Keswick Cumbria
http://www.honister-slate-mine.co.uk/history_of_honister.asp (http://www.honister-slate-mine.co.uk/history_of_honister.asp)
Geology of Caithness
www.stoneroof.org.uk/caith.html (http://www.stoneroof.org.uk/caith.html)
Mining Victims A searchable Database of over 90,000 Victims of mining including Women and Children from before 1840 to modern day compliled by Ian Winstanley.
http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/home/index.html (http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/home/index.html)
Links updated Nov 2013
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Another tip given by jaq elsewhere on the forum:
http://www.gersociety.org.uk (http://www.gersociety.org.uk)
the site for the Great Eastern Railway, useful if any of your ancestors were 'on the railways'. Loads of mine are.!!
Kazza.
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A listing of old Occupations, many of which are archaic, These are useful to genealogists, and historians in general, since surnames often originated form someone's occupation.
Obscure Old English Census Occupations
http://www.worldthroughthelens.com/family-history/old-occupations.php (http://www.worldthroughthelens.com/family-history/old-occupations.php)
Regards Jen
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Directory of medical licences issued by the Archbishop of Canterbury 1535-1775
http://www.lambethpalacelibrary.org/files/Medical_Licences.pdf (http://www.lambethpalacelibrary.org/files/Medical_Licences.pdf)
Covers England, Scotland Wales and a few Europeans
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Hi All
If your looking for old occupations try this site and its links
http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html
peterbennett
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Found this site some time ago whilst looking up The Belle Vue Brewery and after seeing a couple of queries and replying on the subject of PUBS, I thought the link may be of use to Rootschat researchers..so here's the link
Tracing your ancestors who worked at Publicans.
http://www.pubhistory.freeserve.co.uk/phs/ancestors.htm (http://www.pubhistory.freeserve.co.uk/phs/ancestors.htm)
CHEERS ....make that a double
Skippy
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OCCUPATIONS and PROFESSIONS
This is a good link to store in your favourites.
Old Trades
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/trades.html
Jane
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http://haigpit.wordpress.com/disasters (http://haigpit.wordpress.com/disasters)
Links to each disaster with names of those who died.
William Pit Whitehaven 1947 Disaster
http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/eLibrary/Content/Internet/542/795/41379171326.pdf
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Women Workers in the British Industrial Revolution
Find out just what working life was like for our ancestors.
http://eh.net/?s=woman+workers (http://eh.net/?s=woman+workers)
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This is good for anyone with Mining ancestors in Northumberland and Durham
http://www.dmm.org.uk/lom (http://www.dmm.org.uk/lom)
List of Mines in Great Britain and the Isle of Man in 1938
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmhrc/lom38.htm
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I have a link for you, not exactly what you were looking mind.
Royal Navy Medical Officers 1840
http://www.pdavis.nl/Surgeons_1840.htm (http://www.pdavis.nl/Surgeons_1840.htm)
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In October 1999 the project team began work on the design of a relational database covering all clerical careers in the Church of England between 1540 and 1835, to be made available in electronic form for public access over the internet.
http://www.theclergydatabase.org.uk (http://www.theclergydatabase.org.uk)
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http://www.spinningtheweb.org.uk (http://www.spinningtheweb.org.uk)
All about the lancashire cotton industry.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wta/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wta/)
This site has some brilliant archive pictures of manchester, dates vary roughy 1800 to prestent.
Best wishes
Pauline
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This is an excellent website about mining in Wales.
It has a list of disaters, with the names of the victims, often their address and relationships to other pieople who were killed.
http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/index.html (http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/index.html)
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Mining History in the United Kingdom Victims names from 1840 to 1970 all fully searchable
http://www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/deaths.htm (http://www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/deaths.htm)
Mining Accidents from all areas covered.
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Hi All,
I use this site for unusual occupations - seems quite good
http://dictionary.reference.com/
Cheers
Keith
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but I've found it really useful:
Old Ranks, Professions and Trades
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/trades.html (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/trades.html)
Jonathan
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This is a very useful list of old occupations.
http:www.rmhh.co.uk/occup/ (http://http:www.rmhh.co.uk/occup/)
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Here are a few more;
Occupations of England and Ireland
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Occupations.html (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Occupations.html)
Old Industries and Copper Mining in Amlwch North Wales
http://www.amlwchdata.co.uk (http://www.amlwchdata.co.uk)
Steve.
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There are links to indexes of old occupations in the useful links section and in many replies below. I thought I'd pull a few together here to help you understand your Accipitary from your Apparitor! :D
Whilst I was googling for these I saw there are plenty of county or census related resource on the web so if you are interested in a specific occupation in a specific place stick the job and place in Google - you may get lucky.
General Indexes
Old Occupations
http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/OldOccupations.htm
Birmingham Old Occupations
http://www.birminghamgenealogy.org/research/old_occupations.htm
Index of terms used in 17th Century and 18th Century Wills
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fordingtondorset/Files/Glossary.html (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fordingtondorset/Files/Glossary.html)
Specialist Indexes:
USA
Old US Occupations Explained
http://www.usgenweb.org/research/occupations.shtml
European
http://belgium.rootsweb.com/sci/genealogy/occupations_00.html
Census Analysis:
1801-1901 Trends
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/census/2011/census-history/200-years-of-the-census/1801-1901/index.html (http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/census/2011/census-history/200-years-of-the-census/1801-1901/index.html)
1851 Demography
http://discover.ukdataservice.ac.uk/catalogue?sn=1206
1881 Analysis paper on occupations
http://tinyurl.com/c28gzcb (http://tinyurl.com/c28gzcb)
1901 Analysis
http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/1901_Data/Classified_Occupations.htm (http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/1901_Data/Classified_Occupations.htm)
There are many many more resources but these are a few for starters!
All the best,
Pam
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There are few resourses linked from here to give you an idea of what your ancestors were paid.
And here you can find out what the purchasing power of their wage was...
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wtd/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wtd/)
Mrs Beetons Household Management of 1859-61 Average yearly wages paid to various members of the household. http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wtc/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wtc/)
Pam
;D
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FASCINATING !!!
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Military Ranks. I am continually asked to explain these and here is a site that deals with the basics of this quite well - all the Service Arms and also of American forces.
It does not deal with the specialist ranks on specialist outfits but if you come across one of those then please post a query:
https://www.army.mod.uk/structure/32321.aspx (https://www.army.mod.uk/structure/32321.aspx)
Us Military Ranks
http://www.militaryfactory.com/ranks (http://www.militaryfactory.com/ranks)
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Modern Records Centre at the University of Warwick:
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/library/mrc/
Specialising in industrial relations eg. trade unions and employers' organisations. No individual records online, but lots of other useful information, links, publications.
Steve
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Durham Mining Museum website
http://www.dmm.org.uk/
this site list miners who took their certificates, i found my grandfather listed,
its not only local Durham miners,
has the exams they took too.
regards
Paul Williams
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Unfortunately, the "purchasing power" figures supplied by the Bank are ludicrously adrift of reality.
For example, the Old Age Pension of my grandfather in 1938 was ten shillings (50 pence) a week. From that he paid his rent and fed and clothed himself respectably. A glance at the long lists of positions for (domestic) Cooks, Drivers, Parlour maids etc at the same period and during the 39/45 war shows NONE of them paid as much as 50 pounds a year. A 'working man' considered himself well paid on £2-50 a week and raised large families on it.
Today the single pensioner gets around £70 (140 x the 1938 level). A live in cook today commands £15 to £20000. Other domestics (not that I have any) similar amounts. Likewise the 'average' working wage.
As for Housing !! My first house (1967) cost £4750--00 : I am told that SAME house (sadly no longer mine) would sell for £550000 to 600000. When first built in 1922 it cost its purchaser (a Stockbroker) £800--00
As the Americans say, "Go figure !" Percy
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Thanks for the link... it may prove very helpful since I'm trying to locate anyone who remembers me as the 'measuring boy' in the 1956 explosion at the Lewis Merthyr's twofootnine coal-face.
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In October 1999 the project team began work on the design of a relational database covering all clerical careers in the Church of England between 1540 and 1835, to be made available in electronic form for public access over the internet.
This site is now to be found at
http://www.theclergydatabase.org.uk
Shoko
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Hi there,
Apologies if anyone has already posted this link...but I have found it useful in updating occupations taken from the Censuses.
http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/c.html
Best Wishes, Romilly.
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Thanks Romilly,
for posting this, as a new member I really appreciate it. I'm just starting out and every little bit of help is greatly appreciated.
I can really use this site
Cheers
Lones
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Wood Sawyer.
Some information on the trade of a Wood Sawyer.
http: //www btinternet com/~angell family mhistory sawyer htm
Please see the great posting on Wood Sawyers
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=291843.0
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Shipwright.
Some information on the trade of a Shipwright.
http //www btinternet com angell.family/mhistory shipwright.htm
See this interesting thread on what a Shipwright did
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=53090.0
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Thanks Dryden,
My Great grandfather was a sawyer in Greenwich and at the Woolwich Arsenal.
Most interesting
Jenny
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Here an interesting website about the work of Tin Plate Workers in London.
http://www.tinplateworkers.co.uk/
Kerry
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WOW, what a great thread this is? I should have fallen in here ages ago!
Well done.
Robert & Karon
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These sites contain info on industries in Lanarkshire and already on the Lanarkshire resources board(1st one posted by someone else and the 2nd by me)but I thought I would post them here incase anyone looks on the occupations board first!
Mining: http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/139.html (http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/139.html)
Steelworks:http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clydebridge/index.html (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clydebridge/index.html)
Gordon
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Railway Signalling
http://www.signalbox.org/block.shtml (http://www.signalbox.org/block.shtml)
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For everyone who is interested in corkcutting or who wants to search for their corkcutting ancestor on my index, link removed website is no longer in use for family history
It has now been updated to include some great photos of cork cutters working in London in 1914.
Thanks
Cheryl
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A good list and description of over 400 occupations, jobs and titles found on 17th, 18th, 19th and early 20th century records, Census returns, and gravestone inscriptions in Scotland is at:
http://www.scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm
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Hi,
I did a Search RootsChat and found that the Catalogue of the National Archives
is not yet on this thread. It's worth checking for articles relating to occupations ... www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp?j=1
Occupations in Ireland: A Class Analysis by Conor McCabe contains a mixture of old and new occupations http://dublinopinion.com/2007/09/20/occupations-in-ireland-a-class-analysis
Christopher
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Rats! Can't get that very first link to work: - ... the one about police ossifers!
I copied&pasted into my browser, ... but it just goes to the "can't connect' screen :'(
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Many useful links, thanks to all posters.
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Lighthouse keepers in England Wales and the Channel Islands 1841-1910
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Lighthouses/index.html (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Lighthouses/index.html)
HTH
Heather
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It look like the police orders site has moved.
Police link with a temporary fix ;)
Paul
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Durham Records Office have analysed the census returns and have listed the 50 most used occupations across them plus some information on Coal Mining and Colliery Railways.
http://durhamrecordsonline.com/library (http://durhamrecordsonline.com/library)
BumbleB
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:) Hi,
I don't know if anyone has yet posted this site, were any of your family in the photography business in London 1841-1901 if so it is well worth a look, I found a number of my family. There is a quick or advanced search.
http://www.photolondon.org.uk/
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The Musicians' Union has a history of music making from the days of minstrels via music halls etc and the various trade/welfare bodies that have been formed via a PDF link at the end of this webpage:
http://www.musiciansunion.org.uk/about-us/
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If you have mining ancestors in the north try the Durham Mining Museum
The web address is -
http://www.dmm.org.uk/
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I have found references in various journals and books referring to my great-grandfather's profession as being: 1824 Listed as Ellis Gleave, 29 Marshall Street, Oldham Road, Manchester as a Machine Maker.
I'd like to know what a Machine Maker did (what kind of machine) and was that in a cotton mill or what other establishment? What was at 29 Marshall Street?
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Further to my last post asking about my 3rd-great-grandfather Ellis Gleave's occupation, I have found a little more information that may help. He was listed as Machine Maker on one census but have found him also described as Engineer and that he was probably occupied in a cotton mill. I found he was at one time in a partnership which was dissolved in 1818 - Butler, Gleave & Daniels and the partnership was carried on at Stansfield Printworks which I believe was at Vale Mill, Todmorden, Lancashire. He died early at age 36.
I wonder if anyone knows what was at 29 Marshall Street, Manchester (maybe my post should be under 'Lancashire'). I'd like to find out exactly what he did.
Any help appreciated.
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Hi, I was looking for information on Bookbinders as my GG Grandfather Albert E Broadhurst was indentured in 1896 - 1903 to a Thomas Carter Ltd at Bridgewater Place, High St. Manchester. Any suggestions please. Thanks Brenda
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Hi Brenda. If you can't find anything among the links on this thread, or via google or from Manchester trades directories, you could post an enquiry on a new thread. I think this thread is just for links to useful websites, not for answering individual queries.
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I was looking for information on Bookbinders
Try the British Book Trade Index
http://bbti.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/
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This links to forgotten books a pdf copy of a book titled THE SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY
over 400 pages written to explain the roles of numerous occupations within the Americain shipbuilding industry in times of war it is indepth and interesting https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjitYezn9LYAhUEM8AKHcCcC-EQFghRMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forgottenbooks.com%2Fen%2Fdownload%2FTheShipbuildingIndustry_10445111.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3UzSSzHGC0HZmYeRhhB1NE (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjitYezn9LYAhUEM8AKHcCcC-EQFghRMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forgottenbooks.com%2Fen%2Fdownload%2FTheShipbuildingIndustry_10445111.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3UzSSzHGC0HZmYeRhhB1NE)
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Hi
My ancestor John Cameron , was a tidewaiter in Perth, Scotland dying in 1814 aged 56.
Could he be included in these records?
Jamie