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Title: *COMPLETED*lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: bantman on Monday 14 July 08 00:55 BST (UK)

I'm Trying to find out any information about a Thomas Spencer Born Pewsey 1853 at present I don't have his mothers name However I do have his fathers name as William Eyres which is on his marriage certificate in 1873.

I'm trying to find out whether he had any brothers or sisters or wheather he was an illegitimate child or how he doesn't have the same name as his father?or wheather his mother was a Spencer

I've applied for his birth certificate and am waiting for it at the moment

Any info about this family around 1853 to 1873 would be gratefully received

Many thanks Bantman

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: ricky1 on Monday 14 July 08 01:02 BST (UK)

Hi Bantman

1861

a possible

James Spencer head mar 60 shepherd Hants Shipton?
Susanna   "       wife mar 66                           "
Thomas     "    gr/son u/m 8 scholar     Wilts Naveron?

living at Netheravon, Pewsey, Wiltshire

Rg9/ 1307
folio 15
page 24

ricky

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: ricky1 on Monday 14 July 08 01:14 BST (UK)

1841

James Spencer 40 ag lab born in county
Susan       "      45                   "
Ann           "   12                      "
Elizabeth   "   10                     "
Rebecca    "   8                        "
John         "    4                       "

living at Netheravon, Pewsey, Wilts
H0107/ 1176/8
folio 17
page 20

1851
James Spencer head mar 53    ag lab Wilts Enford?
Susan       "       wife mar 56                Hants Shipton?
John          "     son u/m 14                  Wilts Netheravon

living at Netheravon, Pewsey, Wilts

H0107/ 1844
folio 18
page 29

ricky

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: bantman on Monday 14 July 08 07:15 BST (UK)

Thanks Ricky

These look very interesting Thomas grew up to be an agricultural laborer and then a farm steward. Also this family comes from this area Netheravon,Enford,Chisenbury and I've seen Shipton in my files somewhere too.

Many Thanks for your time

Bantman

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: ricky1 on Monday 14 July 08 13:05 BST (UK)

Hi Bantman

Your welcome, but couldnt find a marriage for any of the girls to a William Eyres

ricky

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: bantman on Monday 14 July 08 20:15 BST (UK)

Thanks Ricky

No this is where the confusion lies. Whichever of the girls had Thomas had him outside of wedlock. Then it looks as if the parents brought Thomas up but he didn't take his fathers name remaining a Spencer after his mother.

It was all hushed up at the time !

Thanks again for your help in sorting out this mystery hopfully Thomas's birth certificate will confirm all this info

Thanks again
Bantman

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: ricky1 on Monday 14 July 08 20:20 BST (UK)

Hi Bantman

I wonder which one it will be ??? ???, its a bit of a mystery :-\

regards
ricky ;)

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: bantman on Saturday 19 July 08 18:01 BST (UK)

Have just recieved the Birth cert and it turns out to be Betsey (Elizabeth)
however no fathers name so She wasen't married.  This was the reason Thomas was a Spencer and it looks as if he was brought up by his Grand parents

Things all falling into place nicely

Bantman

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: ricky1 on Saturday 19 July 08 19:28 BST (UK)

Hi Bantman

Pleased to hear your getting it sorted, and got the birth certificate

regards
ricky

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: ricky1 on Saturday 19 July 08 19:37 BST (UK)

There is a marriage for a Betsey Spencer in 1858

Betsey Spencer
1858
Sept Quarter
Amesbury
Wiltshire

On the same page are
William Eyres
Lucy Jane Hillary
John Lewinton

vol 5a
page 245

ricky

Title: Re: lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: bantman on Saturday 19 July 08 19:41 BST (UK)

Yes this Betsy did marry William Eyres

check out my other post for more info

Title: Re: *COMPLETED*lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: Pricer1969 on Friday 28 February 14 22:24 GMT (UK)

Hi again Bantman

I have information on this coming from a very unusual story. If you get these messages I will relay it to you as it is quite amazing!

I am descended from Rebecca Spencer. Her sister Elizabeth had an illegitimate child, Thomas. Elizabeth later married William Eyres. Thomas married Annie Cowdry and one of their children was Percy Spencer who moved to Sussex and married Fanny Sweetman. If I am talking to Wendy here I'll eat my hat! Anyway, a family tree is being drawn and if you have discovered any dates to go with the above info, I'd love to have it to complete the tree.

Ruth

Title: Re: *COMPLETED*lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: bantman on Saturday 01 March 14 16:03 GMT (UK)

Hi Ruth

Thanks for the message but you've got all my info.... you better start nibbling on that hat !!

Thanks Steve / Wendy  ;D

Title: Re: *COMPLETED*lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: Pricer1969 on Sunday 02 March 14 18:21 GMT (UK)

Hi Bantman

Is this by any chance Wendy?

I did some more internet searching and think I've found parents of James Spencer being John Spencer and Betty Wise. Will try and confirm when I go to the records office.

Ruth

Title: Re: *COMPLETED*lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: bantman on Monday 03 March 14 08:16 GMT (UK)

Hi Ruth

It is Wendy

Sounds very interesting good luck and post anything you find here

 Wendy

Title: Re: *COMPLETED*lookup SPENCER family from Pewsey
Post by: Pricer1969 on Monday 03 March 14 23:29 GMT (UK)

Ha ha, how funny is that! It struck me as I was writing! I'll get your e-mail from Mel. I'm going to Chippenham on 19th March. Word birthday present to myself! I'll let you know what I find although I think they may have moved around so it may be a tad tricky. Take care.

Ruth